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[StyxCollector]

No record label wants to release it[/b][/color]

Actually, Rounder is still his label. A division of UMe.

Styx is on New Door, a division of UMe.

Both have deals. Neither has released true new product in awhile. Yawn.

[Jodes]

ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Thanks man.. now I have that song in my head..

It's big, it's heavy it's wood!


HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

You said wood!

hehehehehehehehehe

Ren and Stimpy still though arethe heavyweight champs of cartoon comedy.. Beavis and Butthead pale in comparison!

[styxfanNH]

No record label wants to release it[/b][/color]

Actually, Rounder is still his label. A division of UMe.

Styx is on New Door, a division of UMe.

Both have deals. Neither has released true new product in awhile. Yawn.

I would think that each has a 1 record new material cd in their contract. UMe still wants them around if for no other reason it helps to sell the back catalog they own.

[StyxCollector]

I would think that each has a 1 record new material cd in their contract. UMe still wants them around if for no other reason it helps to sell the back catalog they own.

Give that man a prize

New Door is "less" of a label than Rounder because New Door is like CMC - a label for "has beens" (so-to-speak) who generally happen to have back catalog on UMe. Look at their other releases such as the Tears for Fears.

Either way, to say that there's no label interest is 100% wrong and uninformed.

[froy]

I would think that each has a 1 record new material cd in their contract. UMe still wants them around if for no other reason it helps to sell the back catalog they own.

Give that man a prize

New Door is "less" of a label than Rounder because New Door is like CMC - a label for "has beens" (so-to-speak) who generally happen to have back catalog on UMe. Look at their other releases such as the Tears for Fears.

Either way, to say that there's no label interest is 100% wrong and uninformed.

This is still not the reason why Dennis is holding back his songs
You guys are way off

Suite tell em

[yogi]

My GUESS is that he is holding back his release until he and Tommy sign some sort of agreement getting them back on stage together.

Correct????

[froy]

My GUESS is that he is holding back his release until he and Tommy sign some sort of agreement getting them back on stage together.

Correct????

Yogi you are close

Dennis has 12 songs in the can
How easy would it be for Shaw Glen and Big mouth to join in and call it a STYX record?
Ah pretty easy
Current Styx has 3 songs Dennis has 12 put em together rework them and you have a new STYX cd
Thats what is going to happen watch and see,

[Jodes]

So you're saying that the next Styx CD will have 15 songs on it?

12 by DDY? Sounds more like a DDY solo album with "guest appearances" by Glen, Tommy and JY to me..

The only way that a Styx with DDY is going to work is if JY, DDY and TS Face it, there is no way that Glen is going to be part of a Styx reunion and if he is, he's going to be back to 1-2 songs a night and not having a voice in the way things are being said.

Anyways the only way "new material" will work is if all three of them are in the same room together starting from scratch. They have to go back to the way they worked during Equinox, Crystal Ball and The Grand Illusion. When you start having each go into their own little corners and then presenting it, you're going to have Kilroy and Brave New World all over again.

I am not including Edge in this, because frankly, that was a a conglomeration of JY, DDY and Glen solo songs "Styxafied".

But Froy, what if those 12 songs are all broadway type songs like "My God" or "Goodnight"? No way JY, Glen or TS are going to want to have anything to do with that..

[sadie65]

I do not see this scenario occuring. While I am not of the mindset that Dennis writes "Broadway" all the time, I also don't see everyone listed here as agreeing to use so much Dennis material while only adding 3 songs. Personally, I think this scenario is comical.

Thanks for the laugh.

[StyxCollector]

This is still not the reason why Dennis is holding back his songs
You guys are way off

Suite tell em

Froy, I wasn't addressing why DDY was holding or not holding back 12 songs. I was addressing the comment that there was no label interest.

Now to your point, as far as I know he's under no deadline to deliver an album, so why should he feel need to pressure himself? Now, if he's holding out to work with Tommy, that's kinda foolish if you ask me. No reason DDY can't release an album AND then do one with Tommy (or Styx) if they reunite in some way.

I also think DDY wants to make sure that what he delivers is top notch and has some rockers as well as some ballads to silence those who say he can't really rock anymore. His next album is going to be pretty well planned, and since he has no deadline, why shouldn't it be?

EDIT: I also think that since GLen is back in the mix, some of those songs DDY wrote will not make a final cut and they will be replaced by collaborations, or he may resurrect some of the Son of Edge stuff like "All for Love".

[bugsymalone]

My .02 on this dropped into the disucssion.

I know nothing, mind you! Just a guess. But, with a lot of DDY's commitments out of the way (kids' weddings, TV appearances, a string of successful Canadian concerts, yada yada), he now has time to settle in and work this recording the way he wants to. His perfectionism is legend, so I am sure he is applying it here as well.

I don't think he is working with anyone other than his core musicians and himself. Possibly Glen has entered the picture, but I honestly doubt that as well.

Just some more speculation to throw up in here.

Bugsy

[ChicagoSTYX]

This is still not the reason why Dennis is holding back his songs
You guys are way off

Suite tell em

Froy, I wasn't addressing why DDY was holding or not holding back 12 songs. I was addressing the comment that there was no label interest.

Now to your point, as far as I know he's under no deadline to deliver an album, so why should he feel need to pressure himself? Now, if he's holding out to work with Tommy, that's kinda foolish if you ask me. No reason DDY can't release an album AND then do one with Tommy (or Styx) if they reunite in some way.

I also think DDY wants to make sure that what he delivers is top notch and has some rockers as well as some ballads to silence those who say he can't really rock anymore. His next album is going to be pretty well planned, and since he has no deadline, why shouldn't it be?

EDIT: I also think that since GLen is back in the mix, some of those songs DDY wrote will not make a final cut and they will be replaced by collaborations, or he may resurrect some of the Son of Edge stuff like "All for Love".

In my opinion the best thing that DDY could do would be to make a CD that sounds like Styx. If he does that then I will be impressed. If he does what I think he will do and makes a slow boring show tune CD with songs like the new songs on his live CD then I will know that he has lost it for good. Either way I'm sure this will be his last release if it ever sees the light of day.

[sadie65]

This is still not the reason why Dennis is holding back his songs
You guys are way off

Suite tell em

Froy, I wasn't addressing why DDY was holding or not holding back 12 songs. I was addressing the comment that there was no label interest.

Now to your point, as far as I know he's under no deadline to deliver an album, so why should he feel need to pressure himself? Now, if he's holding out to work with Tommy, that's kinda foolish if you ask me. No reason DDY can't release an album AND then do one with Tommy (or Styx) if they reunite in some way.

I also think DDY wants to make sure that what he delivers is top notch and has some rockers as well as some ballads to silence those who say he can't really rock anymore. His next album is going to be pretty well planned, and since he has no deadline, why shouldn't it be?

EDIT: I also think that since GLen is back in the mix, some of those songs DDY wrote will not make a final cut and they will be replaced by collaborations, or he may resurrect some of the Son of Edge stuff like "All for Love".

In my opinion the best thing that DDY could do would be to make a CD that sounds like Styx. If he does that then I will be impressed. If he does what I think he will do and makes a slow boring show tune CD with songs like the new songs on his live CD then I will know that he has lost it for good. Either way I'm sure this will be his last release if it ever sees the light of day.

I think that is perhaps the worst idea of what he should do. He needs to establish himself as a solo artist and not mimick a sound he is no longer a part of. While you may not care for his recent stuff...and I respect that....that doesn't apply to everyone else. I would be loathe to be in his/the bands shoes having fans like yourself who armchair quarterback.

[StyxCollector]

Look, DDY is damned if he does make a Styx sounding record, and damned if he doesn't. He can't win.

And even if he does make a Styx-like record, what era of Styx are we talking about? If someone wants an album that sounds like PT but ends up like Kilroy, would they be pissed even though it has that Styx sound?

I will never understand why people have unrealistic expectations from bands and musicians. The albums that Styx and DDY will release will be what they will be. You can't run from your musical roots and influences, but you also are not the same person you were when you wrote songs 30 years ago. Too many bands try to go back with mixed success (i.e. the last two U2 albums after experimenting for a few albums) instead of trusting their instincts.

And if we're doing the neck and neck game of "where's the new material", has officially released 4 new songs (3 on the 2CD orchestral set, the Christmas song) since he started his post-Styx era career.

Since Cyclorama - which was their first collection of new songs since BNW with DDY - Styx has released an album of covers. The new live CD with an orchestra will have a couple of new tunes. So that's basically the same as Dennis give or take. Styx has released more live albums and compilations since 1999 than at any other point in their career.

Styx has more songwriters than DDY, so shouldn't they in theory be more productive? (Just playing devil's advocate, but you get my drift.)

The Styx audience for a new album is the same one as DDY. Both will have trouble selling it in numbers on the shelves. They will have much better success selling it at concerts for $15 - $20 a pop.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

In my opinion the best thing that DDY could do would be to make a CD that sounds like Styx. If he does that then I will be impressed. If he does what I think he will do and makes a slow boring show tune CD with songs like the new songs on his live CD then I will know that he has lost it for good. Either way I'm sure this will be his last release if it ever sees the light of day.

Okay, you are way too funny! So if Dennis makes a cd that sounds like Styx you will be impressed???

There's one song that I heard that's sounds totally like Styx, IMO. I think I said it was a cross between POE & CSA or something like that.

No, he's not waiting Tommy. This cd will be done and out before that will happen (07-07-07). There might be a song that features Glen on there, enough "true fans" told him directly to his face, so we'll see.

I can't say too much, "Wise Guy" might post on here that I'm bragging again and we can't have that here!