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froy wrote:Sorry to say but even a new dvd and cd could not generate any vibes for this dead band.
Its over man
Just simply over,
Jodes wrote:??????????????
froy wrote:Sorry to say but even a new dvd and cd could not generate any vibes for this dead band.
Its over man
Just simply over,
styxfanNH wrote:Froy,
I don't think anyone here thinks that regardless of what members are in the band that they would chop the pop charts again.
The overall kid market is either in hip-hop or bubble gum pop. Could you see Dennis singing a song about the sex related/body part songs of today at his age?
DerriD wrote:Froy may have a little more of a leg to stand on with his jabs at the 'New' live album. I bought the CYO CD thinking that the DVD was included (like 21st Century Live). Much to my disappointment it was only the CD. Much like the Journey fan base tiring of the 'Dirty Dozen', the same old songs being played over and over and over is getting old. The two new songs are forgettable, with Just Be being about a bland a Styx song as there has ever been. One With Everything was about the only song that saves this set from being totally worthless.
Even the fans of this new release(s) have to hedge their bets with the CD by saying, "well the CD is okay, but the DVD is really good." The DVD and the Cyclomedley was why I bought the package in the first place. Now I have to go buy the DVD seperately. What a waste. I also have noticed that the Youth Orchestra does indeed get drowned out. Wasn't that the point in the first place?
froy wrote:Sorry to say but even a new dvd and cd could not generate any vibes for this dead band.
Its over man
Just simply over,
shaka wrote:DerriD wrote:Froy may have a little more of a leg to stand on with his jabs at the 'New' live album. I bought the CYO CD thinking that the DVD was included (like 21st Century Live). Much to my disappointment it was only the CD. Much like the Journey fan base tiring of the 'Dirty Dozen', the same old songs being played over and over and over is getting old. The two new songs are forgettable, with Just Be being about a bland a Styx song as there has ever been. One With Everything was about the only song that saves this set from being totally worthless.
Even the fans of this new release(s) have to hedge their bets with the CD by saying, "well the CD is okay, but the DVD is really good." The DVD and the Cyclomedley was why I bought the package in the first place. Now I have to go buy the DVD seperately. What a waste. I also have noticed that the Youth Orchestra does indeed get drowned out. Wasn't that the point in the first place?
So you bought the cd thinking you were getting a DVD? Is that somehow the bands fault?
Anyway, I agree with you as far as the CD goes. Bad production period. However, when people say the DVD is much better they aren't lying. I suspect that it would be important to watch in Dolby Digital or DTS in order to experience the DVD to it's fullest. It's funny, Everything All the Time on the DVD has grown on me quite a bit. At first I didn't like it and now I put in the DVD just to watch that song. It's strange how it doesn't work on CD but works in a great way on the DVD.
styxfanNH wrote:Froy,
I don't think anyone here thinks that regardless of what members are in the band that they would chop the pop charts again.
The overall kid market is either in hip-hop or bubble gum pop. Could you see Dennis singing a song about the sex related/body part songs of today at his age?
Ash wrote:
Thats the thing. In Canada he doesn't have to in order to sell out shows and sell a ton of CD's. Granted the US has gotten more shallow in terms of it's music, but I think it's to the point of being beyond an argument that Dennis is simply more successful than DFB in an overall sense in terms of selling concert tickets and CD's.
styxfanNH wrote:Ash wrote:
Thats the thing. In Canada he doesn't have to in order to sell out shows and sell a ton of CD's. Granted the US has gotten more shallow in terms of it's music, but I think it's to the point of being beyond an argument that Dennis is simply more successful than DFB in an overall sense in terms of selling concert tickets and CD's.
In Canada maybe, not the US.
I think we know the arguements both ways, so I'll stop here.
(And you know I supprt both sides)
Ash wrote:styxfanNH wrote:Ash wrote:
Thats the thing. In Canada he doesn't have to in order to sell out shows and sell a ton of CD's. Granted the US has gotten more shallow in terms of it's music, but I think it's to the point of being beyond an argument that Dennis is simply more successful than DFB in an overall sense in terms of selling concert tickets and CD's.
In Canada maybe, not the US.
I think we know the arguements both ways, so I'll stop here.
(And you know I supprt both sides)
I honestly think it's pretty even here in the US. Perhaps DFB does better in terms of shows because they play everywhere and your mom's living room if they'll have em. And they've also done more live albums and re-treaded albums. They've only done one full album of original material in the 7 years since they fired DeYoung. I thought they wanted to make more records and do things faster?
::shrugs:: Sometimes it makes no sense at all.
Blue Falcon wrote:Live albums USED to be a big deal because they didn't come out very often...Rush had 5 years between their first and 2nd live albums, and 7 years between the 2nd and 3rd live albums...and then another 9 years went by before their 4th live album came out.
Then Rush put out the Rio CD/DVD in 2002, which was great. But then just two years later the 30th Anniversary CD/DVD came out...with almost exactly the same setlist. As a big Rush fan I had to buy it, but there's nothing novel about it because it's too similar to its predecessor.
Same thing with Stynx. How many versions do people need of JY howling "Miss America" when it just gets worse with each passing year?
Blue Falcon wrote:Then Rush put out the Rio CD/DVD in 2002, which was great. But then just two years later the 30th Anniversary CD/DVD came out...with almost exactly the same setlist. As a big Rush fan I had to buy it, but there's nothing novel about it because it's too similar to its predecessor.
shaka wrote:Blue Falcon wrote:Live albums USED to be a big deal because they didn't come out very often...Rush had 5 years between their first and 2nd live albums, and 7 years between the 2nd and 3rd live albums...and then another 9 years went by before their 4th live album came out.
Then Rush put out the Rio CD/DVD in 2002, which was great. But then just two years later the 30th Anniversary CD/DVD came out...with almost exactly the same setlist. As a big Rush fan I had to buy it, but there's nothing novel about it because it's too similar to its predecessor.
Same thing with Stynx. How many versions do people need of JY howling "Miss America" when it just gets worse with each passing year?
Actually, Miss America on OWE DVD is very good. Of course you wouldn't know because you haven't bothered to check it out.
froy wrote:styxfanNH wrote:Froy,
Its now a 25thousand dollar per show band and thats it
They are back where they came from doing high schools
.
shaka wrote:Actually, Miss America on OWE DVD is very good. Of course you wouldn't know because you haven't bothered to check it out.
styxdudebrandon wrote:First of all, Its 55 thousand
and Second, High schools? What the fuck!?!? Too much exaduration,
You have been saying the same things over and over forever.... please go back to the time when you where just outside looking in I am already getting tired of you again...
Ash wrote:shaka wrote:Actually, Miss America on OWE DVD is very good. Of course you wouldn't know because you haven't bothered to check it out.
"haven't been bothered"? Are you kidding? You mean you <i>expect</i> people to plunk down $20 for the CD, learn that the mix sucks and then plunk down <i>another</i> $20 for the DVD? Right. Thats $40 more dollars than DFB will ever get from me.
What does it say when you have to buy the CD <b>AND</b> DVD just to get good versions of the tracks. Seems like they have a lot of inconsistent production going on. Likely because... well I won't go there. Too easy
shaka wrote:Last time I checked arms weren't being twisted to make people buy Styx releases. And I agree, the production is inconsistent. I take exception to him panning something he's never seen or heard simply because he's bitter.
I like miss America. The version on OWE is probably the best live recording of that particular song.
Eric
Ash wrote:styxdudebrandon wrote:First of all, Its 55 thousand
and Second, High schools? What the fuck!?!? Too much exaduration,
You have been saying the same things over and over forever.... please go back to the time when you where just outside looking in I am already getting tired of you again...
Go back to the time when you were in school and learn how to spell and form sentences. Thanks.
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