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Postby Zan » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:42 pm

I'm sorry, but did you just say that whole diatribe was because of something FROY posted? ROFL

That's rich. Carry on!

NIG - you hit the nail on the head about John's music impacting people on a deep, personal level. I have aunts an uncles that have impacted my life less, for sure.
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:27 am

Zan wrote:I'm sorry, but did you just say that whole diatribe was because of something FROY posted? ROFL

That's rich. Carry on!

NIG - you hit the nail on the head about John's music impacting people on a deep, personal level. I have aunts an uncles that have impacted my life less, for sure.


Merry Christmas, Zan. :P
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Re: John Lennon

Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:42 am

NealIsGod wrote:If I may assist you, froy? Yeah, I know, but it is Christmas. :wink:


saint John wrote:The first line reads: "26 years ago we lost a great man." I disagree. Someone who was widely considered a "great" musician, someone who was a "great" influence on the music world was murdered. He wasn't a president or Mother Theresa. He was a revolting drug addict who basically hated America and capitalism yet lived here and accumulated all of the wealth and luxuries it provided. Quite hypocritical. Yoko was said to be anti-possessions also. Yet she tried her best to see to it that Julian Lennon didn't receive even a cent of his father's estate. Again, quite hypocritical. As for "we" please be more specific.


Lennon's impact on the world through his music is obvious. Sure, he was human. Sure, he spurned capitalism and luxuries. Those two concepts also spur GREED. Lennon saw the big picture and had the guts to risk his reputation for his beliefs. Just a rare human being. I don't know what he saw in Yoko. I still think she brainwashed him.

saint John wrote:Line 2 reads: "To this day there is a hole in my soul because of his passing." Ludicrous. Did you know him PERSONALLY? And what did he do for you that, TO THIS DAY, your soul has a hole in it? I'd bet you have aunts, uncles and other relatives/friends that have passed and were FAR closer to you than John Lennon and, moreover, had more of a role in shaping your life. Yet, your soul has a "hole in it" because of the passing of someone you never met. Seems creepy to me. Far better "everyday people" pass away daily.


Lennon's music was such that it did touch people's souls. And it meant something, unlike today's music. Of course, we didn't know him personally. But that doesn't make his work and the effect it had on people any less.

saint John wrote:Line 3 reads: "I never forgave god for letting it happen." Why isn't "god" capitalized? It should read "God." The word is a proper noun. I hope this was a typo. If it wasn't, Lennon would be proud!


Interesting. I wonder if that was intentional myself. If so, pretty slick.

saint John wrote:Line 4 reads: "Even though he had nothing to do with it." Well then forgive him (God), dammit!!


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saint John wrote:Line 5 reads: "Imagine all the people living life in peace." That's kind of hard to do considering since the advent of time, it hasn't happened. Just a way to justify his illicit use of LSD, marijuana and other drugs. A way of promoting his "everyone should be stoned like me and not face reality" agenda. Sad at best.


True to an extent. But Lennon believed that man should be moving forward, and violence should be a thing of the past. Is that so wrong?

saint John wrote:To close, I again condemn the man's murder. However, the use of "great" seemed, to me, so far from the truth that I felt the need to comment. Nothing more, nothing less.


No human being is truly "great". We can do great things, which Lennon did through his music. I agree that we shouldn't sugarcoat his flaws, but the man had an impact on the world that few human beings ever will. And it's a shame that we didn't get to see what else he could do.



Good retorts, NIG. I actually agree with some of them. :D
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Re: John Lennon

Postby NealIsGod » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:12 am

saint John wrote:Good retorts, NIG. I actually agree with some of them. :D


Thanks. And I agree with you about not worshipping celebrities (except Neal - j/k). Lennon certainly had his flaws. But he left behind some great work to remember him by.
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