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bugsymalone wrote:Good heaven's Grote!I was prepared for the worst with this subject line, but you have presented your perspective quite well on this. It is all in what one hears.
I agree, of course, with Darwin. I really cannot make much of a judgment on Cyclo because, honestly, I only listened to it once or twice and haven't a clue where the CD I was given is.
Because I am prejudiced and biased, I know I did not much like it, save for one or two songs, and not even sure which ones those are.
I do remember thinking the production values pretty much sucked, but then, see the "prejudiced" /"biased" notation above.
Bugsy
Grotelul wrote:bugsymalone wrote:Good heaven's Grote!I was prepared for the worst with this subject line, but you have presented your perspective quite well on this. It is all in what one hears.
I agree, of course, with Darwin. I really cannot make much of a judgment on Cyclo because, honestly, I only listened to it once or twice and haven't a clue where the CD I was given is.
Because I am prejudiced and biased, I know I did not much like it, save for one or two songs, and not even sure which ones those are.
I do remember thinking the production values pretty much sucked, but then, see the "prejudiced" /"biased" notation above.
Bugsy
You are right, it is all in what one hears. I think everyone can agree that all of these guys create their best when they are creating together. No one can deny Dennis was the director or creative leader in the studio during those years I love...1975-1978. Tommy has said as much himself that Dennis just knew how to produce a song. Unfortunately various decisions/actions by Dennis and Tommy after 1978 brought down what was a great team.
Dennis, Tommy or JY as solo artists never really cut it for me. I like some stuff but none of it is as lasting to me as STYX music. I understand how one could dislike Gowan's vocals because it really does not fit STYX music prior to Cyclorama. I do think he is a wonderful lyricist, writer and keyboard player though. I think More Love For The Money is a really well written song and you add Tommy's guitar and the rest...I like it. Now if you can't stand his voice, you might not be able to listen to it. I am not that big a fan of Glen's voice either but he too knows how to write a song. But for me, nothing beats Dennis, Tommy and JY as a vocal trio or creative team.
Whatever the reasons they are no longer working together, for myself, I can still enjoy the music they created ...live or on record. Like someone said before...we should feel blessed that we can still enjoy all of their talents in one form or another some 35 years after they started this whole thing.


bugsymalone wrote:MY benchmark of a great album is do I want to listen to every track over and over and often. In the case of "One Hundred Years" this is true, for me.

DarwinNebraska wrote:bugsymalone wrote:MY benchmark of a great album is do I want to listen to every track over and over and often. In the case of "One Hundred Years" this is true, for me.
This is my barometer for a great album too... and I definitely enjoy listening to this album from start to finish.
styxfanNH wrote:DarwinNebraska wrote:bugsymalone wrote:MY benchmark of a great album is do I want to listen to every track over and over and often. In the case of "One Hundred Years" this is true, for me.
This is my barometer for a great album too... and I definitely enjoy listening to this album from start to finish.
For me the barometer isn't do I listen to every or most tracks when it is released, but if it is in my regular rotation 6 months down the line when it has had a chance to settle into the rotation of songs I listen to on a regular basis. When I buy a cd, I tend to listen to it alot when I first buy it, teying to make decisions on the songs and gettign to know the lyrics. Still way to early for me personally to say whether this is a great album yet or not, it just hasn't had the endurance of time yet. But there are a number of tracks I like a lot right now.

DarwinNebraska wrote:I agree, but if I don't genuinely like the songs now, I'm not going to like them in 6 months.
It's usually a good indicator if I can play it all the way through without the urge to skip certain tracks and I can do that on this disc. I couldn't even do that on "Edge of the Century" or "Brave New World".
I am very cyclical with my music listening... meaning I'll get in the mood for certain things and listen to a ton and go months without listening to certain artists.

Zan wrote:However, I've also grown to like, even love, some CDs in the past, MANY of them being Styx or Styx-related CDs. I rarely fall head over heels with Styx discs right away, it usually takes me several listens to get into the groove of it, so to speak.

bugsymalone wrote:ALL of DDY's music requires multiple listenings in my view. "One Hundred Years" is no exception. There is so much texture there, in my view, that it takes me many, many times to appreciate all he has done to make a song complete.

Every now and then I'll revisit something and find I love it.

BlackWall wrote:"Cyclorama" is a fine album, but nothing from it has really ever totally moved me. "These Are The Times" and, actually, "Yes, I Can" come close, but I find myself doing a lot of skipping on this album. I actually think I would take(most of) Tommy's material on "BNW" over this one.. I just feel like they played it a little too safe here.

StyxCollector wrote:Let's take a slightly different angle: we have the other thread this is the "best of Styx" from 1996 - now. But throw that out for a moment. If you took all Styx and solo output from 1996 on (original, not cover tunes), you could most likely craft ONE strong Styx album.
StyxCollector wrote:Having said that, it still wouldn't sell well. So at this point, why shouldn't everyone just record what they want? The fans will buy a certain number of CDs, but beyond that, it's DOA.

stabbim wrote:BlackWall wrote:"Cyclorama" is a fine album, but nothing from it has really ever totally moved me. "These Are The Times" and, actually, "Yes, I Can" come close, but I find myself doing a lot of skipping on this album. I actually think I would take(most of) Tommy's material on "BNW" over this one.. I just feel like they played it a little too safe here.
I'm down with that. BNW gets drubbed mercilessly by most folks, but I believe the TS/JY contributions contain within them the seeds of what could have been a great record, if things had played out differently. Cyclorama has a handful of lovely musical islands floating in a sea of "meh." Neither, unfortunately, are fully satisfying album experiences IMO.
kipthekid wrote:Dennis' "Goodbye to Roseland" and "Great Expectations" were the best songs on BNW and as good as the best that Cyclorama had to offer.

kipthekid wrote:"Save Me?" Let me just say...
3. THIS is the song that SHOULD have been a Styx single...a single that would have put the band back in the top 40 and back into the public eye on a broader level. Love it or hate it, it's got the kind of EXTREMELY catchy melody that marked Dennis' hits with Styx.
kipthekid wrote:I found myself feeling "sad" after listening through this. Why? Well, I thought Dennis was "sad." Where Tommy et al were clearly angry when they put Cyclorama together, Dennis sounds a bit down.

kipthekid wrote:it's obviously a matter of opinion, but the decision to include "Killing" was one, IMHO, made of anger - lament to be sure, but anger nonetheless. Bourgeois Pig and Do Things My Way reflect anger, IMHO, at Dennis.

I'm also sad because this work is worthy of a CHANCE to be heard in the states and, outside from a lucky break (i.e. being a guest on American Idol), it probably won't happen.

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