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Liam wrote:This is an AWESOME album. The harmonies in "I Believe In You" and the sheer power in DDY's voice on "Breathe Again" are just phenomenal. My only complaint is the title track. Do the WHOLE thing in English and make the french version a bonus track. It's a rockin' song musically...lyrically, right now...I hate it.
Still...Styx ain't Styx without DDY. You can't replicate that voice.
Rockwriter wrote: or if you wanted to go for a younger demographic, Chris Daughtry could tear this song up AND bring a lot of younger people in, and we know he's a Styx fan already. I bet he'd do that in a second.
Sterling
blt man wrote:Rockwriter wrote: or if you wanted to go for a younger demographic, Chris Daughtry could tear this song up AND bring a lot of younger people in, and we know he's a Styx fan already. I bet he'd do that in a second.
Sterling
This is exactly who I was thinking. Its the only chance of getting the album and song to chart in the US. But, would his handlers really let him do it? Would Dennis want to share the spotlight on it?
Rockwriter wrote:
Dennis has already demonstrated the willingness to share the spotlight on it, in Canada, so the question is would Daughtry do it? Interesting question . . . if left to his own devices I would think yes, but you raise an interesting point about whether his management, label and so on would think it a good idea. I sure would like to see that song get the widest possible stateside exposure.
Sterling
blt man wrote:Rockwriter wrote:
Dennis has already demonstrated the willingness to share the spotlight on it, in Canada, so the question is would Daughtry do it? Interesting question . . . if left to his own devices I would think yes, but you raise an interesting point about whether his management, label and so on would think it a good idea. I sure would like to see that song get the widest possible stateside exposure.
Sterling
While probably not Dennis' intention, do you think it is too "anti war" to successfully play and gain large exposure in the US?
Rockwriter wrote:Even though the classic rock audience is, demographically, slanted toward the right in the same way that country music is (because of the redneck factor), I think that issue is a dead one now.
Sterling
stmonkeys wrote:Rockwriter wrote:Even though the classic rock audience is, demographically, slanted toward the right in the same way that country music is (because of the redneck factor), I think that issue is a dead one now.
Sterling
hey sterling- just out of curiousity, and not trying to make waves here, but why do you think that the classic rock audience is slanted towards the right? Rock n Roll has traditionally been linked to rebellion and protest- encouraging freedom of self expression, questioning authority, being non-traditonal and non conformist, etc. How many "rock stars" would typically be embraced by the bible belt? Look how they treated Elvis!Especially considering the music we call "classic rock" (beatles, stones, csn&y, the doors, ccr...heck, just about all the 60s-70s artists had some sort of political agenda) Perhaps it has to do with where you live and the political climate of your area. Just wondering, because i know a heck of a lot of left wingers who are heavily into classic rock.
Rockwriter wrote:stmonkeys wrote:Rockwriter wrote:Even though the classic rock audience is, demographically, slanted toward the right in the same way that country music is (because of the redneck factor), I think that issue is a dead one now.
Sterling
hey sterling- just out of curiousity, and not trying to make waves here, but why do you think that the classic rock audience is slanted towards the right? Rock n Roll has traditionally been linked to rebellion and protest- encouraging freedom of self expression, questioning authority, being non-traditonal and non conformist, etc. How many "rock stars" would typically be embraced by the bible belt? Look how they treated Elvis!Especially considering the music we call "classic rock" (beatles, stones, csn&y, the doors, ccr...heck, just about all the 60s-70s artists had some sort of political agenda) Perhaps it has to do with where you live and the political climate of your area. Just wondering, because i know a heck of a lot of left wingers who are heavily into classic rock.
I think the classic rock audience is slanted to the right because the demographic studies clearly demonstrate that it is. It's not my opinion, it's something that numbers bear out. That doesn't mean that there are not a lot of liberal people in that mix, but the artists are very aware of this. Like I said, it's changing. The artists you named, their agenda impact was decades ago, not current. Someone having been against the Vietnam war, for instance, who cares now? But when it comes to CURRENT political issues, everyone I know in classic rock radio feels the need to be careful. Many, if not most of the artists themselves are pretty liberal, but the audience demographic skews conservative . . . which is why most classic rock people studiously don't address politics. JY is a good example . . . in private, a very, very rabid liberal who once refused the chance to meet Ronald Reagan because he hated his presidency so much. But in public he is careful not to address that too much. He knows that's not the fan base. Like I said, a huge part of that is because classic rock and rednecks are so interwined. Thus the success of shows like John Boy and Billy and such with classic rock audiences.
Not too long ago, just a couple of years, a station in New Jersey banned Jethro Tull music for life because Ian Anderson mentioned in an interview that the rest of the world had a negative view of the United States because of the Iraq war. It's that sort of thing that has everyone scared. But like I said, it's changing now, albeit slowly.
Sterling
stmonkeys wrote:Rockwriter wrote:stmonkeys wrote:Rockwriter wrote:Even though the classic rock audience is, demographically, slanted toward the right in the same way that country music is (because of the redneck factor), I think that issue is a dead one now.
Sterling
hey sterling- just out of curiousity, and not trying to make waves here, but why do you think that the classic rock audience is slanted towards the right? Rock n Roll has traditionally been linked to rebellion and protest- encouraging freedom of self expression, questioning authority, being non-traditonal and non conformist, etc. How many "rock stars" would typically be embraced by the bible belt? Look how they treated Elvis!Especially considering the music we call "classic rock" (beatles, stones, csn&y, the doors, ccr...heck, just about all the 60s-70s artists had some sort of political agenda) Perhaps it has to do with where you live and the political climate of your area. Just wondering, because i know a heck of a lot of left wingers who are heavily into classic rock.
I think the classic rock audience is slanted to the right because the demographic studies clearly demonstrate that it is. It's not my opinion, it's something that numbers bear out. That doesn't mean that there are not a lot of liberal people in that mix, but the artists are very aware of this. Like I said, it's changing. The artists you named, their agenda impact was decades ago, not current. Someone having been against the Vietnam war, for instance, who cares now? But when it comes to CURRENT political issues, everyone I know in classic rock radio feels the need to be careful. Many, if not most of the artists themselves are pretty liberal, but the audience demographic skews conservative . . . which is why most classic rock people studiously don't address politics. JY is a good example . . . in private, a very, very rabid liberal who once refused the chance to meet Ronald Reagan because he hated his presidency so much. But in public he is careful not to address that too much. He knows that's not the fan base. Like I said, a huge part of that is because classic rock and rednecks are so interwined. Thus the success of shows like John Boy and Billy and such with classic rock audiences.
Not too long ago, just a couple of years, a station in New Jersey banned Jethro Tull music for life because Ian Anderson mentioned in an interview that the rest of the world had a negative view of the United States because of the Iraq war. It's that sort of thing that has everyone scared. But like I said, it's changing now, albeit slowly.
Sterling
i tend to disagree- while many of the artists i mentioned are no longer "relavant", their influence most certainly is. Classic rock tends to favor liberal issues, and more curent artists like u2, pearl jam, REM, green day are politically outspoken and have not suffered sales-wise. I remember in '04 there was a type of rock the vote tour which tried to drum up some political outrage against the current "administration". Springsteen was one of the artists on this tour, i believe REM were as well- i wish i could remember who else was involved, but they were all fairly prominent bands.
as for a radio station banning tull for a statetment he made (which is grounded in truth) that's pretty sad. but then again, that's pretty typical of the current political climate. scare tactics and stripping away civil liberties.
Liam wrote:This is an AWESOME album. The harmonies in "I Believe In You" and the sheer power in DDY's voice on "Breathe Again" are just phenomenal. My only complaint is the title track. Do the WHOLE thing in English and make the french version a bonus track. It's a rockin' song musically...lyrically, right now...I hate it.
Still...Styx ain't Styx without DDY. You can't replicate that voice.
classicstyxfan wrote:I am listening to 100 years for the 1st time, I did hear the 30 second snipets a few months back and wasnt overly impressed.
Lesson learned is I wont judge music by short low fidelity snipets.
I'm looking forward to the US version of the title track....the french guys voice is all wrong for this song.......Hell, I'd rather hear him duet with GOWAN on thisOther than that, vocals are outstanding as expected, and DDY hasn't lost his ability to produce album/CD. I can definately see several of these tracks may grow on me with additional spins.
If this is his last CD as a solo artist he's going out on a high note ( no pun intended )
I'm thinking this will put some pressure on Styx to put out a quality new CD of originals sooner rather than later, and has set the bar fairly high. I wonder if they will rise to the occasion ?
-CSF
bugsymalone wrote:classicstyxfan wrote:I am listening to 100 years for the 1st time, I did hear the 30 second snipets a few months back and wasnt overly impressed.
Lesson learned is I wont judge music by short low fidelity snipets.
I'm looking forward to the US version of the title track....the french guys voice is all wrong for this song.......Hell, I'd rather hear him duet with GOWAN on thisOther than that, vocals are outstanding as expected, and DDY hasn't lost his ability to produce album/CD. I can definately see several of these tracks may grow on me with additional spins.
If this is his last CD as a solo artist he's going out on a high note ( no pun intended )
I'm thinking this will put some pressure on Styx to put out a quality new CD of originals sooner rather than later, and has set the bar fairly high. I wonder if they will rise to the occasion ?
-CSF
gr8dane wrote:bugsymalone wrote:classicstyxfan wrote:I am listening to 100 years for the 1st time, I did hear the 30 second snipets a few months back and wasnt overly impressed.
Lesson learned is I wont judge music by short low fidelity snipets.
I'm looking forward to the US version of the title track....the french guys voice is all wrong for this song.......Hell, I'd rather hear him duet with GOWAN on thisOther than that, vocals are outstanding as expected, and DDY hasn't lost his ability to produce album/CD. I can definately see several of these tracks may grow on me with additional spins.
If this is his last CD as a solo artist he's going out on a high note ( no pun intended )
I'm thinking this will put some pressure on Styx to put out a quality new CD of originals sooner rather than later, and has set the bar fairly high. I wonder if they will rise to the occasion ?
-CSF
It took me several listens just to process this whole thing. I liked it from the start, but there was so much I liked about it, I had to kind of sit back and really listen to each song a lot and decide if what I thought at first (that it was really good) was not just me glad to hear ANY new DDY music after so many years.
I agree with you. If this would be his last CD, well, it would be going out at the top of his game, for sure.
Your last comment made me want to ask here (if anyone pops into this thread). Is there a new Current Styx album in the works? And I mean NEW, new. No rehash or covers. I thought I had read recording in the fall for a spring release. But I will admit I pay very little attention to anything they are doing, so I may have that information wrong.
I have not heard anything mentioned in awhile and it looks like Tommy is off and touring this fall. Anyone know??
OOOPS answer here:In the interview with JY,that was posted by Cara's Cave(I think it was called),he mentionrd they were going to record again.
I forget the exact wording.
Unless the interview was old enough to be from before Cyclo ofcourse.
bugsymalone wrote:It just seemed like there was more talk from various members of Current Styx about recording a new album and then it all seems to have tapered off. Looks like this fall Tommy will be touring to support his album with Jack Blades. So I was wondering....that's all.
Bugsy
styxfansite wrote:bugsymalone wrote:It just seemed like there was more talk from various members of Current Styx about recording a new album and then it all seems to have tapered off. Looks like this fall Tommy will be touring to support his album with Jack Blades. So I was wondering....that's all.
Bugsy
I noticed an interview with Tommy Shaw coming up on this website. Maybe he will shed some light on this.
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