Well what do you know ... CITA DVD will have extra stuff!

[elmotano]

Bonus Material Performance Video
15 Come Sail Away (1977)
16 Babe (1979)
17 Boat On The River (1979)
18 Borrowed Time (1979)

These will probably be the dubbed versions, right?

Yes, they're going to over-dub DDY's voice with Gowan's.

Oh, I slay me.

In your dreams

Well I know I will be going to the bathroom at least once when I listen to this CD.

[rajah2165]

Only Rajah would find fault (albeit a minor one) with this DVD Release.

Why would a concert video filmed in 1983, covering most of Styx's hits from 1975-83, released in 1984 would have videos from an album that was released in 1991?

Boggles the mind I do say..

BUT Its still a VERY cool DVD and I'm definately picking up three, one for myself, one for my sis and one for one of my best friends.

BTW, Release Date in Canada, Dec 4th, IF it isn't pushed back again...

Fuck You. Its a fucking opinion, bitch.

[rajah2165]

I'm hoping the video of this show makes it worth having because honestly, I was dissapointed in the CD........I havent listened to it in years, but I remember thinking it wasnt among the better live CD's of its era

Probably had something to do with the status of the band at that time...

Well, when your lead guitarist was shooting up heroin, its going to affect the sound.

[rajah2165]

A 20 + minute actual movie,

9ish, actually.

that then turned into a play, that then turned into a concert, that then turned back into a play.

They all had those??

Perhaps not in a single gig following that exact structure, but yeah, the elements were already out there (including the futuristic censorship concept, in the case of Zappa.) DDY combined them in a fairly interesting way but I wouldn't call KWH/CITA a major step forward in the rock/theater idiom.

However, one thing that I do think was truly innovative was the incorporation of Styx's regular set list into the concept, so they could still milk their greatest hits while putting the new theatrics across. Very savvy marketing concept -- makes one wonder why, with such flexibility built into the show, they couldn't just loosen up and play regular gigs when the situation called for it (young Mr Sucherman's story comes to mind.)

And damn that for that!! Damn them for actually not coming out with Pieces of Eight another 4 times in a row.

[rajah2165]

A 20 + minute actual movie,

9ish, actually.

that then turned into a play, that then turned into a concert, that then turned back into a play.

They all had those??

Perhaps not in a single gig following that exact structure, but yeah, the elements were already out there (including the futuristic censorship concept, in the case of Zappa.) DDY combined them in a fairly interesting way but I wouldn't call KWH/CITA a major step forward in the rock/theater idiom.

However, one thing that I do think was truly innovative was the incorporation of Styx's regular set list into the concept, so they could still milk their greatest hits while putting the new theatrics across. Very savvy marketing concept -- makes one wonder why, with such flexibility built into the show, they couldn't just loosen up and play regular gigs when the situation called for it (young Mr Sucherman's story comes to mind.)

The reason Kilroy failed - there was not a rock track on that album.

Who was responsible for Rock Tracks in the Band? Tommy Shaw

Instead of getting a good rock track out of Tommy, we got absolute crap like "Cold War".

Stop putting 100% of the blame for Kilroy on Dennis. Tommy shouldered quite a lot. In fact, Tommy didn't contribute a rocker to Styx since 1978. He shares some of the blame.

[stabbim]

And the Double Non-Sequitur Award goes to....

[Grotelul]

A 20 + minute actual movie,

9ish, actually.

that then turned into a play, that then turned into a concert, that then turned back into a play.

They all had those??

Perhaps not in a single gig following that exact structure, but yeah, the elements were already out there (including the futuristic censorship concept, in the case of Zappa.) DDY combined them in a fairly interesting way but I wouldn't call KWH/CITA a major step forward in the rock/theater idiom.

However, one thing that I do think was truly innovative was the incorporation of Styx's regular set list into the concept, so they could still milk their greatest hits while putting the new theatrics across. Very savvy marketing concept -- makes one wonder why, with such flexibility built into the show, they couldn't just loosen up and play regular gigs when the situation called for it (young Mr Sucherman's story comes to mind.)

The reason Kilroy failed - there was not a rock track on that album.

Who was responsible for Rock Tracks in the Band? Tommy Shaw

Instead of getting a good rock track out of Tommy, we got absolute crap like "Cold War".

Stop putting 100% of the blame for Kilroy on Dennis. Tommy shouldered quite a lot. In fact, Tommy didn't contribute a rocker to Styx since 1978. He shares some of the blame.

What about all those "rock" songs Tommy and JY had that were rejected by a certain someone? Kilroy was not 100% Dennis' fault. Tommy and the others are to blame for caving into Dennis about the direction of the band. If Derek Sutton doesn't get fired/resign whatever...then there may have been a different outcome. But who really knows and it doesn't really matter anymore.

[Jodes]

How classy..

Big man behind a keyboard Rajah.. Hope we never meet.

[Andrew]

Only Rajah would find fault (albeit a minor one) with this DVD Release.

Why would a concert video filmed in 1983, covering most of Styx's hits from 1975-83, released in 1984 would have videos from an album that was released in 1991?

Boggles the mind I do say..

BUT Its still a VERY cool DVD and I'm definately picking up three, one for myself, one for my sis and one for one of my best friends.

BTW, Release Date in Canada, Dec 4th, IF it isn't pushed back again...

Fuck You. Its a fucking opinion, bitch.

Once again Rajah, contributing more fabulous content to the Styx board. Consider this a final warning. I've had more than resonable patience with you. Times almost up.

[Rowdy]

Only Rajah would find fault (albeit a minor one) with this DVD Release.

Why would a concert video filmed in 1983, covering most of Styx's hits from 1975-83, released in 1984 would have videos from an album that was released in 1991?

Boggles the mind I do say..

BUT Its still a VERY cool DVD and I'm definately picking up three, one for myself, one for my sis and one for one of my best friends.

BTW, Release Date in Canada, Dec 4th, IF it isn't pushed back again...

Fuck You. Its a fucking opinion, bitch.

One day, you are gonna say something to the wrong person and that will be the end of you. You make me want to carry a bar of soap with me at all times, so I can shove it down your throat one day.... Then again, I get the feeling you might actually be used the that.

I pity you. You're a keyboard commando, but I bet in real life, you've never had the guts to stand up for yourself.

Rowdy

[Andrew]

Only Rajah would find fault (albeit a minor one) with this DVD Release.

Why would a concert video filmed in 1983, covering most of Styx's hits from 1975-83, released in 1984 would have videos from an album that was released in 1991?

Boggles the mind I do say..

BUT Its still a VERY cool DVD and I'm definately picking up three, one for myself, one for my sis and one for one of my best friends.

BTW, Release Date in Canada, Dec 4th, IF it isn't pushed back again...

Fuck You. Its a fucking opinion, bitch.

One day, you are gonna say something to the wrong person and that will be the end of you. You make me want to carry a bar of soap with me at all times, so I can shove it down your throat one day.... Then again, I get the feeling you might actually be used the that.

I pity you. You're a keyboard commando, but I bet in real life, you've never had the guts to stand up for yourself.

Rowdy

Let me deal with Rajah please. Don't give him any more ammunition.

[Rowdy]

Only Rajah would find fault (albeit a minor one) with this DVD Release.

Why would a concert video filmed in 1983, covering most of Styx's hits from 1975-83, released in 1984 would have videos from an album that was released in 1991?

Boggles the mind I do say..

BUT Its still a VERY cool DVD and I'm definately picking up three, one for myself, one for my sis and one for one of my best friends.

BTW, Release Date in Canada, Dec 4th, IF it isn't pushed back again...

Fuck You. Its a fucking opinion, bitch.

One day, you are gonna say something to the wrong person and that will be the end of you. You make me want to carry a bar of soap with me at all times, so I can shove it down your throat one day.... Then again, I get the feeling you might actually be used the that.

I pity you. You're a keyboard commando, but I bet in real life, you've never had the guts to stand up for yourself.

Rowdy

Let me deal with Rajah please. Don't give him any more ammunition.

no problemo, Andrew.