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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:06 pm

Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:


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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby chowhall » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:50 pm

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:


Eddie has always sucked, so has First Time, and Sing for the Day. This is my opinion and I'm sure everyone could pick a song from Dennis, Tommy, and JY they don't like. Styx has never been better than the concert I saw in 1981 although I enjoyed the concert in 1999 almost as much as the one I saw in 1978 for the Main Event. I still would go see a Styx and Scorpions concert in 2008.

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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby Zan » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:56 pm

chowhall wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:


Eddie has always sucked, so has First Time, and Sing for the Day. This is my opinion and I'm sure everyone could pick a song from Dennis, Tommy, and JY they don't like. Styx has never been better than the concert I saw in 1981 although I enjoyed the concert in 1999 almost as much as the one I saw in 1978 for the Main Event. I still would go see a Styx and Scorpions concert in 2008.



Psst. Guys. "Higgy" was being sarcastic. He's using the same tired rhetoric that all the ballad loving pussies use when trying to make a point that Dennis rules and new Styx drools. You may now return to your regularly scheduled dead horse beating. :lol:
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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby chowhall » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:46 pm

Zan wrote:
chowhall wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:




Eddie has always sucked, so has First Time, and Sing for the Day. This is my opinion and I'm sure everyone could pick a song from Dennis, Tommy, and JY they don't like. Styx has never been better than the concert I saw in 1981 although I enjoyed the concert in 1999 almost as much as the one I saw in 1978 for the Main Event. I still would go see a Styx and Scorpions concert in 2008.



Psst. Guys. "Higgy" was being sarcastic. He's using the same tired rhetoric that all the ballad loving pussies use when trying to make a point that Dennis rules and new Styx drools. You may now return to your regularly scheduled dead horse beating. :lol:


I got the sarcastic part on the ballads, I was referring to the part about Eddie sucking.
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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby rajah2165 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:11 pm

Zan wrote:
chowhall wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:


Eddie has always sucked, so has First Time, and Sing for the Day. This is my opinion and I'm sure everyone could pick a song from Dennis, Tommy, and JY they don't like. Styx has never been better than the concert I saw in 1981 although I enjoyed the concert in 1999 almost as much as the one I saw in 1978 for the Main Event. I still would go see a Styx and Scorpions concert in 2008.



Psst. Guys. "Higgy" was being sarcastic. He's using the same tired rhetoric that all the ballad loving pussies use when trying to make a point that Dennis rules and new Styx drools. You may now return to your regularly scheduled dead horse beating. :lol:


No he makes a good point. Unlike you..
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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby Rowdy » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:11 pm

rajah2165 wrote:
Zan wrote:
chowhall wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Higgy wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
He hasn't had an original thought since high school. Same with a few other posters, who still manage to stick their noses in every thread despite hating current Styx with a passion.


EVERYONE who doesn't like the current incarnation of Styx is a TOTAL asshole! Styx is MUCH better now then they were in 1977. If you don't think so, you're a ballad loving pussy!

"Waiting For Our Time" is MUCH better than any of the pussy ballad shit DDY contributed too. If only they could rerelease songs like Eddie - then they'd really rock!



In your OPINION of course, and preferring a Dennis-led Styx doesn't make me a "ballad loving pussy" or an "asshole" (and btw the song "Eddie" sucks, IMO of course) :roll:


Eddie has always sucked, so has First Time, and Sing for the Day. This is my opinion and I'm sure everyone could pick a song from Dennis, Tommy, and JY they don't like. Styx has never been better than the concert I saw in 1981 although I enjoyed the concert in 1999 almost as much as the one I saw in 1978 for the Main Event. I still would go see a Styx and Scorpions concert in 2008.



Psst. Guys. "Higgy" was being sarcastic. He's using the same tired rhetoric that all the ballad loving pussies use when trying to make a point that Dennis rules and new Styx drools. You may now return to your regularly scheduled dead horse beating. :lol:


No he makes a good point. Unlike you..
By the way, how's the drug problem?


Better than your bed-wetting problem I'm willing to bet.
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Re: An active 2008 for Styx

Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:21 pm

styxfanNH wrote:This just in from a very reliable source. Styx will be touring with the Scorpions in early 2008. There will be 40 dates for this tour and the tour will be completed before May. I don't know what Styx role will be... opener or headliner or co-headliner.

Following the Scorpions dates there will be another 28 dates with Def Leppard in B markets.

Summer plans are still being firmed up, but that puts some 70+ dates prior to the end of June


Is there any new news about these dates for Styx, especially the dates with Leppard?
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Postby Jodes » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:14 pm

More then likely nothing to be announced until after the new year rolls around..
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:36 am

I, for one, would love to see Styx live in any incarnation, headlining/opening.

Just as long as there are incredible musicians pumping out well-written songs in any way, shape, or form.... I'm there.

Doesn't matter if they're headlining a septuple bill of Little River Band/Planet P Project/Molly Hatchet/Eddie Money/Triumph/Asia in a dining hall, or opening for a Foghat tribute band at the local water treatment plant... I'd go see them.
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Postby MCM » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:12 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I, for one, would love to see Styx live in any incarnation, headlining/opening.

Just as long as there are incredible musicians pumping out well-written songs in any way, shape, or form.... I'm there.

Doesn't matter if they're headlining a septuple bill of Little River Band/Planet P Project/Molly Hatchet/Eddie Money/Triumph/Asia in a dining hall, or opening for a Foghat tribute band at the local water treatment plant... I'd go see them.


Sadly I'm with you on that one, not having seen a Styx show or anyone else for that matter until the late 80's has made me feel like I've got a lot of catching up to do. Besides I've not yet seen Triumph or Asia (in any form) so I'll take tickets to that one.....

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Postby Angiekay » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:51 am



Oh HAPPY DAY!!! I've been waiting for Scorps dates for a while now. Truthfully, with the Scorpions out with a new album, and a little on the more popular side, I can't see them opening for Styx. Either way, I won't miss this show!!









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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:37 am

Geoff Downes will not let Asia tour as an opening act or part of a nostalgia festival (see his reasons for why the reunion too so long). I don't think you'll see Asia touring with Styx (unless its Styx opening for a headlining Asia). Besides, Asia sold out almost every date they played last year, so they probably don't want a shared bill.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:34 am

Higgy wrote:Geoff Downes will not let Asia tour as an opening act or part of a nostalgia festival (see his reasons for why the reunion too so long). I don't think you'll see Asia touring with Styx (unless its Styx opening for a headlining Asia). Besides, Asia sold out almost every date they played last year, so they probably don't want a shared bill.


Asia sold out quite a bit, and refuse to open or be a part of nostalgia tours?

That's excellent, glad to see a band stick to their guns and still maintain some success. They move up a notch in my book now.

(Budding Asia fan here. :) )
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Postby chowhall » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:39 am

Higgy wrote:Geoff Downes will not let Asia tour as an opening act or part of a nostalgia festival (see his reasons for why the reunion too so long). I don't think you'll see Asia touring with Styx (unless its Styx opening for a headlining Asia). Besides, Asia sold out almost every date they played last year, so they probably don't want a shared bill.


I like Asia, but I can't see them holding that kind of drawing power. 2 albums, (of which only 1 was really successful)it would be hard to see them outdrawing even a divided Styx. I'm sure that they might have that kind of ego based on their past successes in their other bands, but I wouldn't open for them if I was Styx. I might Co-Headline like other tours, but Asia certainly would not outdraw Styx in this part of the world.
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:51 am

Angiekay wrote:

Oh HAPPY DAY!!! I've been waiting for Scorps dates for a while now. Truthfully, with the Scorpions out with a new album, and a little on the more popular side, I can't see them opening for Styx. Either way, I won't miss this show!!




Now,you are not very clear here.
Do you have dates for 2008 or ...for Scorpions.?
And why would Styx not be part of that.
The Scorpies still needs a touring partner ,and why could Styx not be part of that,as an opener??
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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:48 am

chowhall wrote:
Higgy wrote:Geoff Downes will not let Asia tour as an opening act or part of a nostalgia festival (see his reasons for why the reunion too so long). I don't think you'll see Asia touring with Styx (unless its Styx opening for a headlining Asia). Besides, Asia sold out almost every date they played last year, so they probably don't want a shared bill.


I like Asia, but I can't see them holding that kind of drawing power. 2 albums, (of which only 1 was really successful)it would be hard to see them outdrawing even a divided Styx. I'm sure that they might have that kind of ego based on their past successes in their other bands, but I wouldn't open for them if I was Styx. I might Co-Headline like other tours, but Asia certainly would not outdraw Styx in this part of the world.


History has already proven you wrong. Asia did indeed sell out most of their dates (which they played alone). Asia had two platinum albums and two gold albums. Plus, they have the history of Yes, ELP, King Crimson, etc that they also play.

I don't think Styx opening for Asia is even an issue. I don't think its the same market for the two bands anymore. Styx is apparently playing to the same market as Def Leppard (nostalgia, classic rock, heavy metal), whereas Asia is still courting a more Yes-based prog rock audience (yes, still nostalgia, but not quite the Def Leppard audience).
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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:51 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
Higgy wrote:Geoff Downes will not let Asia tour as an opening act or part of a nostalgia festival (see his reasons for why the reunion too so long). I don't think you'll see Asia touring with Styx (unless its Styx opening for a headlining Asia). Besides, Asia sold out almost every date they played last year, so they probably don't want a shared bill.


Asia sold out quite a bit, and refuse to open or be a part of nostalgia tours?

That's excellent, glad to see a band stick to their guns and still maintain some success. They move up a notch in my book now.

(Budding Asia fan here. :) )


You should check out "GPS" which is the band that the rest of the 90s Asia lineup formed after the reunion of original Asia. 90s Asia was perhaps better than '80s Asia (especially for a 'progrocker' :D )
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Postby chowhall » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:56 pm

Higgy wrote:
History has already proven you wrong. Asia did indeed sell out most of their dates (which they played alone). Asia had two platinum albums and two gold albums. Plus, they have the history of Yes, ELP, King Crimson, etc that they also play.

I don't think Styx opening for Asia is even an issue. I don't think its the same market for the two bands anymore. Styx is apparently playing to the same market as Def Leppard (nostalgia, classic rock, heavy metal), whereas Asia is still courting a more Yes-based prog rock audience (yes, still nostalgia, but not quite the Def Leppard audience).


Early years
Asia's eponymous debut album enjoyed considerable commercial success, spending nine weeks at number one in the U.S. album chart. The singles "Only Time Will Tell" and "Heat of the Moment" became huge Top 40 hits, with the latter cracking the Top Five, and remaining a stadium favourite at U.S. sporting events.

"Sole Survivor" also received heavy air play on rock stations across the US.

The US tour also did extremely well, selling out every date on the '82 and '83 tours, while the MTV channel played their videos on heavy rotation. Billboard named the Asia debut as album of the year.

Asia became known as pioneers of phase two of the progressive rock era by avoiding long-winded forays, and by including (to at least a greater extent than phase one) enough commercial polish to attract radio airplay outside of album-rock circles. Yes' 90125 and Big Generator, ELPowell's Emerson, Lake & Powell in 1986, and the GTR album would all follow in the Asia debut album's footsteps.

However, neither the second nor any following Asia album repeated the chart success of the first. "Don't Cry" entered the Top Ten in 1983, while "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes," a fan favourite for John Wetton vocal performance, charted inside of Billboard's top 40. But Rolling Stone panned Alpha as an over-produced commercial album [3], while others lamented that Howe and Palmer were effectively reduced to session musicians. However, many Asia fans favour Alpha over the debut. The tracks "Eye To Eye" and "My Own Time" became huge fan favourites. "Open Your Eyes" and "The Heat Goes On" became concert staples. Alpha received indifferent reviews from various critics, while still attaining platinum status. Alpha reached #6 on the USA Billboard album chart.

In 1983, Wetton was forced out of the group on the heels of the comparatively disappointing sales of Alpha, while ELP frontman Greg Lake replaced him for the highly publicised "Asia in Asia" concert in Japan, which was the first concert broadcast over satellite to MTV in the US, and later made into a home video. Asia reformed with Wetton in 1985 to start work on their next album, but Steve Howe soon left to be replaced by Krokus guitarist Mandy Meyer. Howe then enjoyed brief and very minor success with GTR, another supergroup, formed with Steve Hackett of Genesis and produced by Downes.


In July 2006, tour dates were announced with the 1st leg of the tour beginning on August 29 in Rochester, NY and ending in London on December 3, 2006. The setlist will feature most or all of the first album as well as a couple of songs from the second. In addition, as mentioned previously, one selection each will be played from Yes, ELP, King Crimson, and the Buggles to acknowledge the history of each member of the band. There will be dates in 2007, as well, with venue size based on the success of the 2006 shows where the band is mainly playing in clubs and theaters. According to the book Asia: Heat of the Moment the Asia website, they have sold out various venues. In fact, the 7 dates in Japan during March of this year were completely sold out.

Maybe history hasn't proven me so wrong after all. In the Southeastern United States, Styx kicks Asia's ass :shock:
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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:22 pm

chowhall wrote:
Higgy wrote:
History has already proven you wrong. Asia did indeed sell out most of their dates (which they played alone). Asia had two platinum albums and two gold albums. Plus, they have the history of Yes, ELP, King Crimson, etc that they also play.

I don't think Styx opening for Asia is even an issue. I don't think its the same market for the two bands anymore. Styx is apparently playing to the same market as Def Leppard (nostalgia, classic rock, heavy metal), whereas Asia is still courting a more Yes-based prog rock audience (yes, still nostalgia, but not quite the Def Leppard audience).


Early years
Asia's eponymous debut album enjoyed considerable commercial success, spending nine weeks at number one in the U.S. album chart. The singles "Only Time Will Tell" and "Heat of the Moment" became huge Top 40 hits, with the latter cracking the Top Five, and remaining a stadium favourite at U.S. sporting events.

"Sole Survivor" also received heavy air play on rock stations across the US.

The US tour also did extremely well, selling out every date on the '82 and '83 tours, while the MTV channel played their videos on heavy rotation. Billboard named the Asia debut as album of the year.

Asia became known as pioneers of phase two of the progressive rock era by avoiding long-winded forays, and by including (to at least a greater extent than phase one) enough commercial polish to attract radio airplay outside of album-rock circles. Yes' 90125 and Big Generator, ELPowell's Emerson, Lake & Powell in 1986, and the GTR album would all follow in the Asia debut album's footsteps.

However, neither the second nor any following Asia album repeated the chart success of the first. "Don't Cry" entered the Top Ten in 1983, while "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes," a fan favourite for John Wetton vocal performance, charted inside of Billboard's top 40. But Rolling Stone panned Alpha as an over-produced commercial album [3], while others lamented that Howe and Palmer were effectively reduced to session musicians. However, many Asia fans favour Alpha over the debut. The tracks "Eye To Eye" and "My Own Time" became huge fan favourites. "Open Your Eyes" and "The Heat Goes On" became concert staples. Alpha received indifferent reviews from various critics, while still attaining platinum status. Alpha reached #6 on the USA Billboard album chart.

In 1983, Wetton was forced out of the group on the heels of the comparatively disappointing sales of Alpha, while ELP frontman Greg Lake replaced him for the highly publicised "Asia in Asia" concert in Japan, which was the first concert broadcast over satellite to MTV in the US, and later made into a home video. Asia reformed with Wetton in 1985 to start work on their next album, but Steve Howe soon left to be replaced by Krokus guitarist Mandy Meyer. Howe then enjoyed brief and very minor success with GTR, another supergroup, formed with Steve Hackett of Genesis and produced by Downes.


In July 2006, tour dates were announced with the 1st leg of the tour beginning on August 29 in Rochester, NY and ending in London on December 3, 2006. The setlist will feature most or all of the first album as well as a couple of songs from the second. In addition, as mentioned previously, one selection each will be played from Yes, ELP, King Crimson, and the Buggles to acknowledge the history of each member of the band. There will be dates in 2007, as well, with venue size based on the success of the 2006 shows where the band is mainly playing in clubs and theaters. According to the book Asia: Heat of the Moment the Asia website, they have sold out various venues. In fact, the 7 dates in Japan during March of this year were completely sold out.

Maybe history hasn't proven me so wrong after all. In the Southeastern United States, Styx kicks Asia's ass :shock:


Outside of showing that you have entirely (as your boy puts it) too much time on your hands and an obsessive desire to prove yourself right, you haven't contradicted the facts that Asia had two platinum albums and 2 gold albums or the fact that Asia sold out a bunch of US tour dates.

Comparing Asia to Styx is probably only going to fly in a forum where people think that Steve Howe and JY are comparable guitarists.
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:34 pm

Angiekay wrote:

Oh HAPPY DAY!!! I've been waiting for Scorps dates for a while now. Truthfully, with the Scorpions out with a new album, and a little on the more popular side, I can't see them opening for Styx. Either way, I won't miss this show!!




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Postby Zan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:36 pm

Higgy wrote:Outside of showing that you have entirely (as your boy puts it) too much time on your hands and an obsessive desire to prove yourself right, you haven't contradicted the facts that Asia had two platinum albums and 2 gold albums or the fact that Asia sold out a bunch of US tour dates.



Shaw isn't his "boy." Sorry to disappoint.
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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:38 pm

Zan wrote:
Higgy wrote:Outside of showing that you have entirely (as your boy puts it) too much time on your hands and an obsessive desire to prove yourself right, you haven't contradicted the facts that Asia had two platinum albums and 2 gold albums or the fact that Asia sold out a bunch of US tour dates.



Shaw isn't his "boy." Sorry to disappoint.


I AM disappointed! Thanks for the apology!
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Postby chowhall » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:53 pm

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Comparing Asia to Styx is probably only going to fly in a forum where people think that Steve Howe and JY are comparable guitarists.



11 GOLD records 6 Platinum or multi platinum records for Styx in the US. Not Japan, or South Africa, or a few select east coast cities. Places like Biloxi, Salt Lake, Las Vegas, Ft Lauderdale, Nashville, LA are where Styx is currently touring. Comparing Asia to Styx is like comparing Heat of the Moment to Renegade. I wonder which one is getting more airplay on American radio stations tonight. And if I have to pick a boy, (not my thing), I guess I'd go with a good ole Alabama boy over Steve Howe any day.
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Postby Higgy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:59 pm

chowhall wrote:
Higgy wrote:
Comparing Asia to Styx is probably only going to fly in a forum where people think that Steve Howe and JY are comparable guitarists.



11 GOLD records 6 Platinum or multi platinum records for Styx in the US. Not Japan, or South Africa, or a few select east coast cities. Places like Biloxi, Salt Lake, Las Vegas, Ft Lauderdale, Nashville, LA are where Styx is currently touring. Comparing Asia to Styx is like comparing Heat of the Moment to Renegade. I wonder which one is getting more airplay on American radio stations tonight. And if I have to pick a boy, (not my thing), I guess I'd go with a good ole Alabama boy over Steve Howe any day.


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Postby chowhall » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:40 pm

Higgy wrote:
...and I rest my case


And what would that be? That you are a case?
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Postby Higgy » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:37 am

chowhall wrote:
Higgy wrote:
...and I rest my case


And what would that be? That you are a case?


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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:40 am

James Young and Tommy Shaw combined aren't even half the guitarist that Steve Howe is...

Also, commercial success doesn't always dictate the quality of an album... I'm slowly beginning to like Asia more than Styx.. the music is a lot "deeper" in a lot of ways and a little less pretentious.

Higgy, I've been mainly listening to 90s Asia. Very underrated stuff.. a lot of great tunes!
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Postby Jodes » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:29 am

I always thought that 90's Asia was very pretentious, it was missing something compared to the 80's Asia. I felt the 90's Asia was not as guitar orientated, very heavy on the keyboard and bass, which when listening you wanted the guitars to breakout but sadly they never did.

That and of course the Voice..

I thought their re-recordings of Wetton songs were absolutely atrocious..

I thought Silent Nation was an ok record, with a few songs (Ghost In The Mirror being a truely great song) that stood out. The songs that stood out went back to that 80's pomp rock sound.

Lets not forget that Styx was suppose to do a tour with Asia last summer (10-12 dates) but once the Def Leppard tour got finalized, it got scrapped..
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Postby Higgy » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:15 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:James Young and Tommy Shaw combined aren't even half the guitarist that Steve Howe is...

Also, commercial success doesn't always dictate the quality of an album... I'm slowly beginning to like Asia more than Styx.. the music is a lot "deeper" in a lot of ways and a little less pretentious.

Higgy, I've been mainly listening to 90s Asia. Very underrated stuff.. a lot of great tunes!


'Arena' is one of my all time favorite albums. It flows great, has a great theme, and showcases Downes/Payne at their best. Of course, I like all of those '90s albums.
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Postby chowhall » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:51 pm

Higgy wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:James Young and Tommy Shaw combined aren't even half the guitarist that Steve Howe is...

Also, commercial success doesn't always dictate the quality of an album... I'm slowly beginning to like Asia more than Styx.. the music is a lot "deeper" in a lot of ways and a little less pretentious.

Higgy, I've been mainly listening to 90s Asia. Very underrated stuff.. a lot of great tunes!


'Arena' is one of my all time favorite albums. It flows great, has a great theme, and showcases Downes/Payne at their best. Of course, I like all of those '90s albums.



Maybe you 2 love birds can move to the Asia forum on this board. Oh wait, there isn't an Asia forum on this board. At least one not big enough to warrant their own topic of any band any of the members were ever in. If you 2 want to challenge Styx's legacy with Asia's, then good luck on that. I'll take Dennis or Tommy any day over any member of Yes, The Buggles, Asia, King Crimson, or any other iteration of band that those guys couldn't remain in.

Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike (I know a double negative) Asia or any of the other associated bands and I love 90125 from YES as well as any album of that era. But if you 2 Homos are going to diss Styx for Asia, then 'splain yoself. Asia does not have any song or Album that stands the test of time like Styx does. Styx had 4 albums in a row that were all better than Asia's best. "Only Time will Tell", "Heat of the Moment", or my fav"Soul Survivor" don't compare to "Come Sail Away", "Renegade", or 10 other Styx songs that are all better. Whether Tommy or JY can play guitar with Steve Howe is immaterial. Steve Howe didn't write the songs that Dennis and Tommy did. There might be 1000 better keyboardists or guitarist than Dennis or Tommy, but they did not have the impact that our guys did with Styx.

My only question is why isn't anyone else defending the boys?

If you're going to use the tired old argument about original members, then I don't think either band will have any impact on today's music scene with all original or all new members. Their time has passed and their glory days are behind them. If Asia is deluding themselves thinking they are not a nostalgia act, them ask them what year they had their last top 40 hit or album.
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