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Postby StyxCollector » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:05 am

Rockwriter wrote:LOL, I am forced to agree. It seems kinda obvious to me that, for the most part, the songs Dennis brought to the table from 'Equinox' through 'Pieces of Eight' are the ones that most readily lend themselves to the classification "progressive rock". Of course JY had a hand in the arranging/producing of those songs, so let's not discount him in that. He wrote the prog-like middle section to "Come Sail Away" by most accounts, and I think he wrote the guitar solo section of "Suite Madame Blue", so he DID actually have a stronger influence than the credits might reflect. I wonder if JY did not write the chords to the guitar solo section of "Castle Walls" as well. He sure played a great solo there. So when their tastes overlapped, they did so in a really amazing way.


Actually, JY in early versions sang the last bit ("I thought that they were Angels ..."); by the time they recorded the final version, it was all DDY.

Anyway, we're having yet another go around on this one, too. Years ago I also brought up the fact that Styx was never really progressive sans maybe Styx I with songs like "Movement for the Common Man". How many Styx fans have heard that ditty? lol Heck, "Krakatoa" is more progressive than most Styx output by its nature. Think about it - I don't know if anyone remembers that picture they once posted on the old paradisetheater.com site, but it was an early setlist and they were covering songs like "21st Century Schitzoid Man" by King Crimson (oh how I'd love a boot of that!).

So I'm not saying JY is off base if he's comparing to EARLY Styx, but the Styx of 1975 and later? No.

Rockwriter wrote:Maybe part of JY's seeming bitterness is simply the way the credits read for some of that stuff, who knows? I always hear from people close to the band that JY feels he simply hasn't ever gotten the credit he deserves, and perhaps he hasn't. That's a frustration in and of itself. Then add to that the decades-long simmering tension when his tastes gradually got pushed more and more to the side by the commercial success of some of Dennis' later work that was NOT their shared taste, and it becomes easier to see why he might harbor some resentment. I still feel it's a mistake to spill all of that in public, though. As I always say, bitterness and animosity are NOT what inspire people, LOL. And that's what giving interviews is supposed to be about, is inspiring people to get on board with what you're doing now . . . not to get off board with what you USED to do. The past is what it is.


Look, Ringo and George only got a couple of tunes a piece, but when they went solo, shall we say JY's albums didn't even approach All Good Things Must Pass which by some is the best Beatles solo project (my vote is Macca's first one). Now, George had his share of klunkers, too. I have no doubt that the band was more democratic up to and including Pieces of Eight. It's evident on Cornerstone the band took a detour which kinda got back on track with Paradise Theater but then took a left and never came back. I'm not saying it's bad or good, it is what it is.
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Postby Higgy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:15 am

StyxCollector wrote:Actually, JY in early versions sang the last bit ("I thought that they were Angels ..."); by the time they recorded the final version, it was all DDY.



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Postby LordofDaRing » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:59 am

Much Betterrererere Zan.
By the way, unlike some I find Gowan to be an awesome keyboard player, decent singer and good performer (yep saw the new version about 4 times). I don't think he runs circles around the "former keyboard player". And you can't slam him to much at taking the job, somebody was going to it. Again that all falls around replacing somebody prominent in a band, I am sure many purists feel that the best version of Fleetwood Mac was Peter Green and company. Wait I see another JY interview posted, off I go....
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Postby Zan » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:49 pm

LordofDaRing wrote:Much Betterrererere Zan.
By the way, unlike some I find Gowan to be an awesome keyboard player, decent singer and good performer (yep saw the new version about 4 times). I don't think he runs circles around the "former keyboard player". And you can't slam him to much at taking the job, somebody was going to it. Again that all falls around replacing somebody prominent in a band, I am sure many purists feel that the best version of Fleetwood Mac was Peter Green and company. Wait I see another JY interview posted, off I go....



I think there's more than one - have at it!

Re: Gowan vs. Dennis (hey, there's a relatively new topic for the board to discuss!), I think the biggest difference between their playing abilities is that Gowan is a classically trained piano player, and Dennis is a seasoned keyboardist. As for their singing, well, I've enjoyed listening to both of them, although I prefer to hear Lawrence on his own songs and visa-versa.
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Postby StyxCollector » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:31 pm

Zan wrote:
I think there's more than one - have at it!

Re: Gowan vs. Dennis (hey, there's a relatively new topic for the board to discuss!), I think the biggest difference between their playing abilities is that Gowan is a classically trained piano player, and Dennis is a seasoned keyboardist. As for their singing, well, I've enjoyed listening to both of them, although I prefer to hear Lawrence on his own songs and visa-versa.


Bingo. I enjoy Gowan when he's being Gowan and doing his songs, and not trying to be Dennis. I wish DDY played more keys these days - a gripe I have going back to that first solo show in 2000, but it is what it is.
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Postby chowhall » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:18 am

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Bingo. I enjoy Gowan when he's being Gowan and doing his songs, and not trying to be Dennis. I wish DDY played more keys these days - a gripe I have going back to that first solo show in 2000, but it is what it is.[/quote]

I have that gripe going back to 1983 when Dennis quit playing keyboard on Rockin The Paradise. I always missed the piano in that song. When Dennis came up through the stage on the original Paradise tour, one of my Styx highlights. Plus Dennis looks better behind a piano :lol:
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Postby piecesofeight » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:52 am

Well..one thing we can say for sure is that JY is good for one thing..keeping this board lively.. :lol:
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