OT - Palin rocked last night

[DarrenUK]

Saddam was an evil monster to his own people as well as his neighbors ....AGREED, sooooooooooooo when does the USA invade China as the rulers there are as bad as Saddam if not worse ?

When the UN imposes sanctions and sends inspectors and the Chinese throw them all out. Or when China invades one of it's neighbors like say, Taiwan. That fight I'm afraid is coming.

Well the UN will not impose sanctions on China as most countries of the UN owe China vast amounts of money in loans .........why would the UN send inspectors everyone knows they have nukes ...... may as well send inspectors to America and Russia ....... I am talking about China's treatment of its own people ....... nothing will be done as China has about 2-3 million men in its army but Bush still has a few days left in office so there is still a chance for an invasion.

[chowhall]

Saddam was an evil monster to his own people as well as his neighbors ....AGREED, sooooooooooooo when does the USA invade China as the rulers there are as bad as Saddam if not worse ?

When the UN imposes sanctions and sends inspectors and the Chinese throw them all out. Or when China invades one of it's neighbors like say, Taiwan. That fight I'm afraid is coming.

Well the UN will not impose sanctions on China as most countries of the UN owe China vast amounts of money in loans .........why would the UN send inspectors everyone knows they have nukes ...... may as well send inspectors to America and Russia ....... I am talking about China's treatment of its own people ....... nothing will be done as China has about 2-3 million men in its army but Bush still has a few days left in office so there is still a chance for an invasion.

It's a shame that we don't have an intelligence test before you get the right to vote.

[DarrenUK]

Well after the last 2 election results I would agree with you on that ....

[shaka]

Like I stated in my first post here, Barack wants everyone making $ 44,254 dollars per year. Later on, Barack will allows us to drive our subcompact car to the government run health facility, or we gather to listen to his spiritual advisor Dr. Jeremiah Wright.

It's scary to think who may be leading us.

If he wants everyone to earn $44,254 then it will double my salary ....and will cut his own by 500% ....... good on him I say oh and by the way Universal healthcare is far better than healthcare for profit ..... just ask

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BULGARIA
CROATIA
CZECH REPUBLIC
FINLAND
ESTONIA
GEORGIA
GREECE
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ICELAND
IRELAND
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Health care is a basic human right or entitlement.
Ensuring the health of all citizens benefits a nation economically.
About 60% of the U.S. health care system is already publicly financed with federal and state taxes, property taxes, and tax subsidies - a universal healthcare system would merely replace private/employer spending with taxes. Total spending would go down for individuals and employers.
A single payer system could save $286 billion a year in overhead and paperwork. Administrative costs in the U.S. health care system are substantially higher than those in other countries and than in the public sector in the US: one estimate put the total administrative costs at 24 percent of U.S. health care spending.
Several studies have shown a majority of taxpayers and citizens across the political divide would prefer a universal healthcare system over the current U.S. system
Universal health care would provide for uninsured adults who may forgo treatment needed for chronic health conditions.
Wastefulness and inefficiency in the delivery of health care would be reduced.
America spends a far higher percentage of GDP on health care than any other country but has worse ratings on such criteria as quality of care, efficiency of care, access to care, safe care, equity, and wait times, according to the Commonwealth Fund.
A universal system would align incentives for investment in long term health-care productivity, preventive care, and better management of chronic conditions.
Universal health care could act as a subsidy to business, at no cost thereto. (Indeed, the Big Three of U.S. car manufacturers cite health-care provision as a reason for their ongoing financial travails. The cost of health insurance to U.S. car manufacturers adds between USD 900 and USD 1,400 to each car made in the U.S.A.)
The profit motive adversely affects the cost and quality of health care. If managed care programs and their concomitant provider networks are abolished, then doctors would no longer be guaranteed patients solely on the basis of their membership in a provider group and regardless of the quality of care they provide. Theoretically, quality of care would increase as true competition for patients is restored.
A 2008 opinion poll of 2,000 US doctors found support for a universal healthcare plan at 59%-32%, which is up from the 49%-40% opinion of physicians in 2002. These numbers include 83% of psychiatrists, 69% of emergency medicine specialists, 65% of pediatricians, 64% of internists, 60% of family physicians and 55% of general surgeons. The reasons given are an inability of doctors to decide patient care and patients who are unable to afford care.
According to an estimate by Dr. Marcia Angell roughly 50% of healthcare dollars are spent on healthcare, the rest go to various middlemen and intermediaries. A streamlined, non-profit, universal system would increase the efficiency with which money is spent on healthcare.
In countries in Western Europe with public universal health care, private health care is also available, and one may choose to use it if desired. Most of the advantages of private health care continue to be present, see also two-tier health care.
Universal health care and public doctors would protect the right to privacy between insurance companies and patients.
Public health care system can be used as independent third party in disputes between employer and employee.
Libertarians and conservatives can favor universal health care, because in countries with universal health care, the government spends less tax money per person on health care than the U.S. For example, in France, the government spends $569 less per person on health care than in the United States. This would allow the U.S. to adopt universal health care, while simultaneously cutting government spending and cutting taxes

MAKE IT HAPPEN

No offense but I've received medical care in a few of those countries as well as a couple that aren't on your list and the experience fell short of what I experience here in the USA EVERY TIME. Also most of those countries use medical equipment that would have never been developed under their own systems of healthcare. That's right ladies and gentlemen, they piggyback the innovation that occurs in the USA.

Those countries also pay for those programs by being taxed through the nose.

While I am not opposed to the concept of universal healthcare using many of those countries as examples, including the UK, isn't really a good thing unless you enjoy waiting insane amounts of treatment. Many procedures that would take a week to schedule in the USA would take months if not years in other countries.

Also, universal healthcare is not a human right. Where do you get this stuff?

[RedWingFan]

Health care is a basic human right or entitlement.

Not according to the United States Constitution. Thanks anyways.

[LordofDaRing]

"Well after the last 2 election results I would agree with you on that ...."

Agree, I cannot believe that many people voted for Gore and Kerry. Of course if adults in Florida would learn how to follow directions when they do vote, unlike the 5th grade class in the Louisiana grade school that did not seem to have the same problem, you probably have no controversy in the 2000 election. Better yet if MSNBC does not falsey give the state of Florida to Gore...then to Bush...then to Gore that night, prior to the polls closing, you also don't have an issue. In fact, why doesn't the media just wait until all the polls are closed prior to reporting any victories for either candidate...wait that would be responsible journalism. Can't have that.


Since the economy is the hottest topic of the day, any of you Obama supporters going to take on the SF Newspaper article that Styxfansite posted in this forum? Is this just another Right Wing Conspiracy? Was it really Dick Cheney ghost writing that article??

[Rockwriter]

Saddam was an evil monster to his own people as well as his neighbors ....AGREED, sooooooooooooo when does the USA invade China as the rulers there are as bad as Saddam if not worse ?

When the UN imposes sanctions and sends inspectors and the Chinese throw them all out. Or when China invades one of it's neighbors like say, Taiwan. That fight I'm afraid is coming.

Well the UN will not impose sanctions on China as most countries of the UN owe China vast amounts of money in loans .........why would the UN send inspectors everyone knows they have nukes ...... may as well send inspectors to America and Russia ....... I am talking about China's treatment of its own people ....... nothing will be done as China has about 2-3 million men in its army but Bush still has a few days left in office so there is still a chance for an invasion.

It's a shame that we don't have an intelligence test before you get the right to vote.

Now that's something I can agree with to an extent. I actually think that simply having been born in America should not automatically grant citizenship. I believe that when you turn eighteen, you should have to pass the same citizenship test that we expect immigrants to pass in order to earn the rights of citizenship, including voting. Far too many people are going out and voting without having even the vaguest clue of how the government works. I am constantly astounded by how many people I know my age - I am 38 - and younger who don't understand even the fundamentals of the branches of government, how they function and how they interact. These people get to go out and vote, and when they go in the booth they might as well just throw a dart, so poorly informed are they about each candidate's platform. You know, people are always going to disagree, and that's healthy; spirited debate is the basis of democracy. The free exchange of information is how a democracy comes to its best conclusions. But it can only work if everyone involved is capable of understanding the fundamentals of the conversation they're having. Otherwise people are just looking at which candidate has a D or an R by his name and voting for the person that they think is most like themselves. That's a large part of why we are where we are right now.

Another thing I believe is that once you've earned the ability to vote through a citizenship test, it should be a responsibility instead of an express right, and if you choose not to vote in two consecutive presidential elections, you should lose the right to vote and have to earn it back by taking an updated test. If more people were made to feel that voting is important and vital, perhaps they would treat it as such. Right now we've become a nation of monumental voter apathy, and again it's a large part of why we are where we are. In the orgy of finger pointing that we Americans do every day to try to sort out who's to blame for the mess we're in, there's one person we almost always fail to accuse: the one in the mirror. So much of what's gone wrong in this country is the product of apathy on the part of the citizenry. Unless we change that, it won't make any difference who becomes president. A democracy is only as good as its citizens.

I hope all is well.


Sterling

[yogi]

If you do that Sterling you will be eliminating the voting rights of three fourths of the people that live in trailers, and half the voting population of Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia & Tennessee.

You are trying to take away the Jerry Springer vote.

You CANT do that!!

P.S. Can the test be given in Spanish????

[Tanirocker]

You were doing fine until you brought up the holocaust. Adolf Hitler was not espousing Christianity in the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler was espousing Adolf Hitler. Christianity was guilty of neglect in the Holocaust and maybe even enabling, but not the root cause.

Actually, Hitler was espousing Christianity.

"The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren ), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today."
-Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934

There are countless quotes that illustrate that he considered himself a Christian. Here is a list of many of them: http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm

You may think that he doesn't fit your definition of a Christian, but he certainly considered himself to be one.


Tani

[Tanirocker]

Also, If on September 12, 2001, you had the option of a long prolonged conflict in Iraq with an uncertain pullout date or more attacks on US soil, What would you as President select?

Sorry, but that's a false comparison. We have no evidence that this war has helped in any way. If anything, this has caused a greater likelihood of further attacks.

Does being Pro Life and Anti Abortion make one a Christian wacko?

No, but believing that humans and dinosaurs coexisted does.

I understand the publics dissatisfaction with his leadership and lack of intellect and oratory skills. Calling our President the lunatic fringe and deranged is unfounded, ill informed, and in some countries criminal. More clarification to follow.

Bush has said many things (like when he said that "the jury is still out" on evolution) that make me believe that he is ill-informed. As for being illegal in some countries, that's why I don't want to live in any of those countries.

Tani

[Tanirocker]

Like I stated in my first post here, Barack wants everyone making $ 44,254 dollars per year.

Where are you getting this $44,254 figure? Do you really think he wants to reduce his income that much?


Tani

[Tanirocker]

Damn right - Obama is the most liberal senator in the US. Period.

That's according to the National Review, who ALWAYS name any Dem senator running for president as "the most liberal senator in the US."

With the hard right turn that has led this country to such misery, we could use a lot more liberalism.


Tani

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[Tanirocker]

What's the problem with the wolf thing? Do you have a problem with animal population control in general or is it that you just love wolves?

The wolf slaughter is not about population control. There are less than 200 wolves in the entire 8,000 square mile hunting area. Palin has initiated a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of every wolf killed, and set aside enough money to pay for 150 of them. The wolf population was down before the bounty went into effect. Caribou and moose populations were down, but that was because of a parasite that was causing them to lose their calves. As the amount of prey decreased, so did the number of wolves. Now the wolves are in danger of being wiped out by a barbaric practice of chasing them down and shooting them from low-flying aircraft. If you’d like to see what it’s really like, I have a link to a video of it being done. It’s brutal. Hunting for food is one thing. Hunting for trophies is quite another.

Tani


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[Tanirocker]

He sits in a chuch for over a decade where hatred against whites and the USA is preached on a regular basis- Barack Obama

Please prove to me that hatred against whites was EVER preached in that church. I've never seen anything that suggested it. In fact, there are white members of the church.

As for hating the USA, it's a bit silly to make that claim about Wright. He served in both the Marines and the US Navy, and was part of the medical team that cared for President Lyndon Johnson.

Wright has said things out of anger, but he is correct in saying that there has been a great deal of racism and wrongdoing in America's past. The way that American Indians were treated, interment of Japanese-Americans, and slavery and the mistreatment of blacks that followed it are all shameful. We have to own up to our past mistakes if we are going to move forward.

With over 20 years of televised sermons to comb through, people looking to bash Wright have found a handful of angry quotes. If you check into the sermons of John Hagee and Rod Parsley, two of McCain's supporters and religious leaders, you'll find far more of them.


Tani

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[Tanirocker]

One last thing and I promise to shut up for a while.


Over the years, Obama has associated frequently with "Sam," a person who spent more than 4 years in prison for his part in two burglaries. Sam has since told his story, and it was from on his own statements that we learned about all of the other crimes in which he took part.

Sam was involved with a well-known criminal organization. He has acknowledged that he was willing to kill someone if necessary during the burglaries. He also plotted to murder a journalist, and plotted with a gangland figure to murder one of the other burglars because he thought that the guy was going to spill his guts to the prosecution.

Sam plotted to firebomb an organization whose mission is, "strengthen American democracy; foster the economic and social welfare, security and opportunity of all Americans; and secure a more open, safe, prosperous and cooperative international system." He plotted to kidnap people at a convention, a plan that he described to his group using Nazi terminology. He has repeatedly spoken out about how to shoot ATF agents.

Sam says he has no regrets about anything that he did. Granted, all of this happened over 25 years ago, but Sam still believes in extreme solutions, and feels proud of his past.

Sam has donated $5000 to Obama's campaigns, including $1000 in February 2008. He now has a TV show, on which Obama has appeared as recently as May. Sam referred to Obama as an "old friend." On the show, Obama praised Sam's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great." He also said that he was "proud" of Sam, and that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."

In January of 1998, Sam held a fundraiser at his home for Obama. He was scheduled to speak at an Obama fundraiser, but couldn't get there because of bad weather. The Obama campaign vouched for Sam's character, saying that he would appeal to many voters because he was loyal to his group and kept silent about the crimes later. The chairman of Obama's campaign in the county in which Sam was scheduled to speak said that while Sam's judgement might be in question, his character was not.

Sounds awful, doesn't it?

This Sam sounds like a horrible character, and considering his penchant for bombs and murder, there is no doubt that he could be labeled a terrorist.

It makes Obama sound pretty bad for associating with such a person, doesn't it?

now scroll down...

more...

a little more...


Now, go back up and read that story about Sam again, but change the names to the REAL names of those involved.

Change "Obama" to McCain.

Change "Sam" to G. Gordon Liddy.

Everything else remains the same.

Now who looks bad?


Tani


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[chowhall]

You were doing fine until you brought up the holocaust. Adolf Hitler was not espousing Christianity in the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler was espousing Adolf Hitler. Christianity was guilty of neglect in the Holocaust and maybe even enabling, but not the root cause.

Actually, Hitler was espousing Christianity.

"The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren ), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today."
-Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934

There are countless quotes that illustrate that he considered himself a Christian. Here is a list of many of them: http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm

You may think that he doesn't fit your definition of a Christian, but he certainly considered himself to be one.


Tani

I know he considered himself a Christian, My point was he did not use Christianity to eradicate millions of Jews, Catholics, and any other minority he didn't like. He used Adolf Hitler. Christianity was not the root cause of the Holocaust. It certainly was a major plank of the Crusades and the Inquistion.

[chowhall]

Sorry, but that's a false comparison. We have no evidence that this war has helped in any way. If anything, this has caused a greater likelihood of further attacks.

Absolutely wrong. If you think that making Osama Bin Laden run for his life every single night hasn't kept America out of Harm's Way, You are blissfully ignorant. If you think that Bin Laden would not have sought refuge in a Sadam led Iraq that should have been taken out in 1992, see my previous sentence.

[Tanirocker]

Absolutely wrong. If you think that making Osama Bin Laden run for his life every single night hasn't kept America out of Harm's Way, You are blissfully ignorant. If you think that Bin Laden would not have sought refuge in a Sadam led Iraq that should have been taken out in 1992, see my previous sentence.

You're assuming that Bin Laden is running. According to Christiane Amanpour, her sources say that he's living in a nice villa in Pakistan. Besides, now we don't have to wait for terrorists to come here to attack us. We deliver!

Bin Laden considered Saddam an infidel, and Saddam was not a supporter of al Qaida. There is no indication that Bin Laden would have sought refuge with him.

As for what we should have done, we should have refrained from keeping him in power for so many years in the first place. We seem to love murderous dictators as long as they're our puppets (Somoza, Pinochet, Marcos, et al).

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm neither blissful nor ignorant.


Tani
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[DarrenUK]

Like I stated in my first post here, Barack wants everyone making $ 44,254 dollars per year. Later on, Barack will allows us to drive our subcompact car to the government run health facility, or we gather to listen to his spiritual advisor Dr. Jeremiah Wright.

It's scary to think who may be leading us.

If he wants everyone to earn $44,254 then it will double my salary ....and will cut his own by 500% ....... good on him I say oh and by the way Universal healthcare is far better than healthcare for profit ..... just ask

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CROATIA
CZECH REPUBLIC
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Health care is a basic human right or entitlement.
Ensuring the health of all citizens benefits a nation economically.
About 60% of the U.S. health care system is already publicly financed with federal and state taxes, property taxes, and tax subsidies - a universal healthcare system would merely replace private/employer spending with taxes. Total spending would go down for individuals and employers.
A single payer system could save $286 billion a year in overhead and paperwork. Administrative costs in the U.S. health care system are substantially higher than those in other countries and than in the public sector in the US: one estimate put the total administrative costs at 24 percent of U.S. health care spending.
Several studies have shown a majority of taxpayers and citizens across the political divide would prefer a universal healthcare system over the current U.S. system
Universal health care would provide for uninsured adults who may forgo treatment needed for chronic health conditions.
Wastefulness and inefficiency in the delivery of health care would be reduced.
America spends a far higher percentage of GDP on health care than any other country but has worse ratings on such criteria as quality of care, efficiency of care, access to care, safe care, equity, and wait times, according to the Commonwealth Fund.
A universal system would align incentives for investment in long term health-care productivity, preventive care, and better management of chronic conditions.
Universal health care could act as a subsidy to business, at no cost thereto. (Indeed, the Big Three of U.S. car manufacturers cite health-care provision as a reason for their ongoing financial travails. The cost of health insurance to U.S. car manufacturers adds between USD 900 and USD 1,400 to each car made in the U.S.A.)
The profit motive adversely affects the cost and quality of health care. If managed care programs and their concomitant provider networks are abolished, then doctors would no longer be guaranteed patients solely on the basis of their membership in a provider group and regardless of the quality of care they provide. Theoretically, quality of care would increase as true competition for patients is restored.
A 2008 opinion poll of 2,000 US doctors found support for a universal healthcare plan at 59%-32%, which is up from the 49%-40% opinion of physicians in 2002. These numbers include 83% of psychiatrists, 69% of emergency medicine specialists, 65% of pediatricians, 64% of internists, 60% of family physicians and 55% of general surgeons. The reasons given are an inability of doctors to decide patient care and patients who are unable to afford care.
According to an estimate by Dr. Marcia Angell roughly 50% of healthcare dollars are spent on healthcare, the rest go to various middlemen and intermediaries. A streamlined, non-profit, universal system would increase the efficiency with which money is spent on healthcare.
In countries in Western Europe with public universal health care, private health care is also available, and one may choose to use it if desired. Most of the advantages of private health care continue to be present, see also two-tier health care.
Universal health care and public doctors would protect the right to privacy between insurance companies and patients.
Public health care system can be used as independent third party in disputes between employer and employee.
Libertarians and conservatives can favor universal health care, because in countries with universal health care, the government spends less tax money per person on health care than the U.S. For example, in France, the government spends $569 less per person on health care than in the United States. This would allow the U.S. to adopt universal health care, while simultaneously cutting government spending and cutting taxes

MAKE IT HAPPEN

No offense but I've received medical care in a few of those countries as well as a couple that aren't on your list and the experience fell short of what I experience here in the USA EVERY TIME. Also most of those countries use medical equipment that would have never been developed under their own systems of healthcare. That's right ladies and gentlemen, they piggyback the innovation that occurs in the USA.

Those countries also pay for those programs by being taxed through the nose.

While I am not opposed to the concept of universal healthcare using many of those countries as examples, including the UK, isn't really a good thing unless you enjoy waiting insane amounts of treatment. Many procedures that would take a week to schedule in the USA would take months if not years in other countries.

Also, universal healthcare is not a human right. Where do you get this stuff?

I get this stuff from living in the UK for the first 40 years of my life ............. never said the healthcare in America was bad just the way it sends a man who has had a triple by pass operation a co pay bill for $50,000 (Neighbor) or a woman a cancer bill for $32,000 (friend at works mom) How are you expected to pay for this when the CEOs of these companies live like kings ............

[chowhall]

You're assuming that Bin Laden is running. According to Christiane Amanpour, her sources say that he's living in a nice villa in Pakistan. Besides, now we don't have to wait for terrorists to come here to attack us. We deliver!

Bin Laden considered Saddam an infidel, and Saddam was not a supporter of al Qaida. There is no indication that Bin Laden would have sought refuge with him.

As for what we should have done, we should have refrained from keeping him in power for so many years in the first place. We seem to love murderous dictators as long as they're our puppets (Somoza, Pinochet, Marcos, et al).

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm neither blissful nor ignorant.


Tani
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Well, if CNN says it, it must be true, the bastion of unbiased News in the world.

[styxfansite]

Two different videos for two different topics. War and Faith....


On the war in Iraq...

You may have seen this video before, but if you haven't, this is worth watching till the end. Some of the comments on this video are interesting as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8



Obama on his Muslim?/Christian? Faith.
I posted this video because everyone was talking about Muslims and Christians. Maybe this will shed some light on which Faith he really is....maybe not....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I&NR=1





"The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom"

[Archetype]

Barack Hussein Obama will destroy this glorious republic. Plain and simple. We don't need a Marxist terrorist scumbag in the office of the Presidency.

[DarrenUK]

Barack Hussein Obama will destroy this glorious republic. Plain and simple. We don't need a Marxist terrorist scumbag in the office of the Presidency.

I never knew Hussein was his middle name ...... well fuck that I am not voting for him now.

With a name like Hussein he obviously wants to blow us all up ...... he should change his middle name to W ...... we would be far safer and the country would be debt free.

[classicstyxfan]

we survived 8 years of Ronald(6) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) and he obvoiusly was the Antichrist.....his name proves it !


Idiots........

[LordofDaRing]

"With a name like Hussein he obviously wants to blow us all up ...... he should change his middle name to W ...... we would be far safer and the country would be debt free."

Nah, Obama doesn't, but his buddy "from the neighborhood" does. Here is a little more info..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=76022


"He told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." He posed for a photograph accompanying the piece that shows him stepping on an American flag."

[DarrenUK]

"With a name like Hussein he obviously wants to blow us all up ...... he should change his middle name to W ...... we would be far safer and the country would be debt free."

Nah, Obama doesn't, but his buddy "from the neighborhood" does. Here is a little more info..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=76022


"He told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." He posed for a photograph accompanying the piece that shows him stepping on an American flag."

So the actions of some idiot like that means Obama feels the same way ...... give me a break, Wal-Mart are out of straws as the Republicans have bought them all to clutch at ..... If concrete evidence is produced to show that Obama agrees wholeheartedly or has campaigned for those people then he should not be voted in as president. Why doesn't McSame and Failin bring this up in debates instead of during speeches where a comeback can be given ..... I will tell you why as they have no evidence and I am sure there is plenty of dirt on the Republicans ticket they do not want bringing up ........ but as the experts say attacks like this are driving up the democrat vote ...... go Sarah Wolf slaughterer and Mr Maverick your doing a great job.

[Toph]

Damn right - Obama is the most liberal senator in the US. Period.

That's according to the National Review, who ALWAYS name any Dem senator running for president as "the most liberal senator in the US."

With the hard right turn that has led this country to such misery, we could use a lot more liberalism.


Tani

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That is a partisan and IDIOTIC comment.

Do you really want to go down the path of why we are in the economic mess we are in today? Its Barney Frank and the rest of the Dems who basically forced banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford them, all in the name of letting every bumble fuck own a house. Like owning a house is a RIGHT in this country. Give me a fucking break. There are some people that shouldn't buy houses. Yet, the Dems want to absolve everyone of personal responsibility. The government will take care of you! It will be okay!

Let's hope not. If Obama gets elected this country pays dramatically.

[DarrenUK]

Damn right - Obama is the most liberal senator in the US. Period.

That's according to the National Review, who ALWAYS name any Dem senator running for president as "the most liberal senator in the US."

With the hard right turn that has led this country to such misery, we could use a lot more liberalism.


Tani

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It has always been the same so I am told ..... when you have a democrat president in power who leaves a surplus it is because of the republicans, when a republican president is elected and screws it all up its the democrats fault ..... it all makes sense now

That is a partisan and IDIOTIC comment.

Do you really want to go down the path of why we are in the economic mess we are in today? Its Barney Frank and the rest of the Dems who basically forced banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford them, all in the name of letting every bumble fuck own a house. Like owning a house is a RIGHT in this country. Give me a fucking break. There are some people that shouldn't buy houses. Yet, the Dems want to absolve everyone of personal responsibility. The government will take care of you! It will be okay!

Let's hope not. If Obama gets elected this country pays dramatically.

[classicstyxfan]

Perhaps this "dramatic payment" might leave us better off when compared to the track record ( dramatic cost to the country ) of the last 8 years.

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Damn right - Obama is the most liberal senator in the US. Period.

That's according to the National Review, who ALWAYS name any Dem senator running for president as "the most liberal senator in the US."

With the hard right turn that has led this country to such misery, we could use a lot more liberalism.


Tani

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That is a partisan and IDIOTIC comment.

Do you really want to go down the path of why we are in the economic mess we are in today? Its Barney Frank and the rest of the Dems who basically forced banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford them, all in the name of letting every bumble fuck own a house. Like owning a house is a RIGHT in this country. Give me a fucking break. There are some people that shouldn't buy houses. Yet, the Dems want to absolve everyone of personal responsibility. The government will take care of you! It will be okay!

Let's hope not. If Obama gets elected this country pays dramatically.

Wow...do you honestly believe POOR PEOPLE actually are responsible for this economic mess?
PLEASE stop drinking the Michael Savage kool aid.