Eric Singer says Styx is currently better than the original

[ChicagoSTYX]

In an interview with someone from KISSfaq.com KISS drummer Eric Singer had this to say about the current Styx lineup:

"Same with Styx. Styx is really great. I think Styx is a better band now than they ever were with the original band.

KF: Really?

ES: It's a whole different band except for Tommy Shaw and J.Y. Young and let me tell you, I go and see Styx every chance I can whenever they come around. I saw them a bunch in the '70s -- the original band -- and the band they have now is the best band to me. "

Link to the story is http://kissfaq.com/forum09/viewtopic.php?t=43402

A fill in drummer for Kiss says he thinks Styx is better now?
How much cash was this dude paid
How can a guy say a band that has been playing the same 12 songs for the past 10 years is better than the original.
Is the guy Stoned?

Go see them and find out!

[Archetype]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

[Higgy]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

[Monker]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

[pinkfloyd1973]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

He WAS playing his new songs in concert

[StyxCollector]

For what it's worth, he did One Hundred Years from Now last night. He's not ignoring his solo stuff or new stuff. He doesn't do it every time.

[Everett]

For what it's worth, he did One Hundred Years from Now last night. He's not ignoring his solo stuff or new stuff. He doesn't do it every time.

So what was the set allan?

[Rockwriter]

they are a band that plays for the love of money not music

Here's something for you Froy. I play in a band and I have had this discussion many times with other musicians.

Being in a band is about 2 things; money and vanity.

Other musicians have argued - NO it's about THE MUSIC!

I say if it were about the music then you would be perfectly happy playing in your basement all alone. But instead you choose to get paid to get all dressed up, stand in front of a bunch of pretty lights and soak up the applause from a lot of people you don't know.

Man, that is absolutely correct! That's why bands are so complicated, because the people in them - by the very nature of the job - are ego-driven and also driven by financial need. The ego is born into those kinds of people, while the need for money is embedded in them by the ridiculous struggle you have to go through to build a viable money-making entity in that business. It ends up twisting people in various ways - most of whom were already twisted to begin with.

I hope all is well.

Sterling

[Toph]

These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.

...and one Dennis refused to record. That fact alone tells me that Dennis' head was not in Styx.[/quote

And Just Be puts your head right up your shooter

I'd rather listen to that then hip-hop-hip-hop-hip-ocracy. STUPID song.

Almost as STUPID as "Just Fell In to A Manic Depresssion and I really want to spend it with you....?"

[Toph]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

[chickenbeef]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

you are saying the man that wrote "First Time" is better than the one who wrote "Boat on The River"??????????

[froy]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

you are saying the man that wrote "First Time" is better than the one who wrote "Boat on The River"??????????

Who might this troll be?

[Everett]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

you are saying the man that wrote "First Time" is better than the one who wrote "Boat on The River"??????????

Who might this troll be?

Pick me i know

[chickenbeef]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

you are saying the man that wrote "First Time" is better than the one who wrote "Boat on The River"??????????

Who might this troll be?

oh please, you're the biggest troll in the history of the internet

[Monker]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks.

Well, that is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read in this forum. You contradict yourself from one sentence to the next.

You're correct in that you are wrong when you said that Styx never releases albums

I don't think any of the albums they have released since Kilroy 'suck'. That is an opinion that doesn't have a right or wrong answer anyway.

Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows?

I didn't say he's not allowed to. That would be pretty stupid...cuz they are both 'allowed' to perform anything they want.

What I am saying is that Styx is playing Styx songs. Dennis has dropped his solo songs and now trying to be Styx all by himself. IMO, he's given up on his solo songs...cuz he KNOWS they are not what people want to hear. He wants to cater to the same crowd that Styx caters to...and that crowd would rather hear Tommy's Styx stuff rather then anything he's released as a solo artist.

I'll also say that all of you who criticized, insulted, demonized, and threw mud at Styx for playing "Dennis" Styx songs are HUGE hypocrites for not saying the same thing about Dennis...when he does EXACTLY the same thing.

BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

So what. Here's a fact for you....I don't base my liking of music on the charts. The charts are meaningless.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter.

Too bad he doesn't have faith that his solo songs can entertain a crowd as well as Tommy's Styx songs.

Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

LOL...I got kicked off the Journey forum for telling Andrew to follow his own rules and kick people off who were hurling personal insults...and for taking the unpopular route of arguing with Dean and his followers who seemed to believe that Journey were making good decisions for the future of the band, instead of chasing $ signs. I was right, they were wrong, and Andrew does try to keep more control on his forum nowadays. So, whatever...if you have a problem with how I post, take it up with Andrew, I really don't care.

[StyxCollector]

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

Not always true. Depending on set length, etc., Styx has varied things and skewed towards the "hits"/"classics". And Dennis' new album is about 2 years old now. So new is relative. He's done quite a few tracks from One Hundred Years From Now at various shows over the past few years, and did the title track last week at my show in RI. When I saw Dennis in 2008, "Private Jones" sounded great.

Styx has done the same thing. Over time, the new songs get dropped. Even on the "Evening with ..." shows, by the end of the run, BNW tracks were being dropped, and when they went to the arena/90 minute shows, most were all if not gone. With Cyclorama they did 2, maybe 3, songs a night which also dwindled. I don't really count BBT as it was a covers album, and "Just Be" was in the set for awhile. At the end of the day, Styx has done exactly as Dennis has.

The difference is that with Styx the sets are still skewed nearly 50/50 from Tommy to Dennis songs, while Dennis is doing only 3 - 4 Tommy songs and the rest are his (solo or Styx). Going by pure facts and numbers of set lists, Styx needs Dennis songs more than he needs Tommy songs, but the Tommy songs do provide a nice lift and change in the show.

[chickenbeef]

Froy, Styx's setlist has changed a lot. They even play new material! (DDY doesn't do that) He just plays Tommy songs instead of songs from his OWN ALBUM

Styx has played material from Brave New World, Cyclorama, Big Bang Theory, changed up their old songs many times.

Yes DDY plays new stuff all the time. The last few concerts he has CHANGED his setlist to include some Tommy songs. But for the last 10 years, DDY has been playing new stuff. I'm pretty sure he's never played one of his hits twice in the same show like Styx are want to do though.

Go back to reading your sticky playboy.

The point is: When Styx releases a new album, they play some of the new songs in concert - EVERY TIME. When Dennis has a new album, he chooses to play Tommy's songs. That says a lot. Maybe Dennis simply knows that Tommy is a better songwriter has his fans enjoy that music more then his own solo stuff.

That is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Problem is that Styx never releases an album. And when they do, it sucks. Second fuckface, why is DDY not allowed to play a few Tommy songs in concert, when Tommy has to play Dennis songs in his shows? Probably because Styx could only play30 minutes with Tommy's four hit songs.....BTW moron, here are a few facts for you. Styx 8 top 10 singles. 7 written by Dennis. Dennis also has a top 10 solo single. Tommy - zero top 10 solo singles.

Dennis is clearly the better songwriter. Give it up, you make yourself look like the idiot you are (and the moron that continually was getting kicked off the JRNY board).

you are saying the man that wrote "First Time" is better than the one who wrote "Boat on The River"??????????

Who might this troll be?

you can't even answer that question can you? you just gotta go start calling people trolls

[purpleplanet10]

first off I'm a big Eric Singer fan... and also i agree with him... i really did not get int Styx untill Todd and Larry joined.. this version to me is Better, but to each his or her own

[chickenbeef]

first off I'm a big Eric Singer fan... and also i agree with him... i really did not get int Styx untill Todd and Larry joined.. this version to me is Better, but to each his or her own

opinions are just for people who are wrong

[pinkfloyd1973]

first off I'm a big Eric Singer fan... and also i agree with him... i really did not get int Styx untill Todd and Larry joined.. this version to me is Better, but to each his or her own

opinions are just for people who are wrong

And THAT you are

[bru87tr]

bahahahahaha!

I have seen Styx now and Styx even on the Reunion tour, The Reunion performances alone blow away anything they do today performace wise.

Personally I think they are a shell of how they use to sound. They are not as strong as they use to be and Dennis is sorely missed in my eyes.

[yogi]

When did Dennis leave the band?

That wasnt him singing More Love For The Money?

[Everett]

When did Dennis leave the band?

That wasnt him singing More Love For The Money?

lmao good one yogi

[Archetype]

When did Dennis leave the band?

That wasnt him singing More Love For The Money?

More Love For The Money is stronger than all the Dennis material on Brave New World

[jestor92]

I've seen Styx twice in recent years (1st on the Journey/Reo/Styx and again a few years back I forget the date) and I must say they put on a helleva performance, but what I didn't care for was each time I saw them with the exception of I believe Lady and Come Sail Away they didn't play any DDY songs. That's not a bad thing, but as a casual Styx fan I enjoy hearing the DDY songs like Lorelli, Light Up, Rockin The Paradise, etc. so I was a little bummed out they didn't play them. On the plus side the 1st time I saw them they performed I think it was 3 songs from Cyclorama which I think is an excellent album (They played Waiting For Our Time, Kiss Your Ass Goodbye, and Fields of the Brave...I think that's what they played) and when I saw them with Journey and Reo they owned the stage that night.

I also got to see Dennis DeYoung a few years back at the Kirby Center in Wilkes-Barre, PA. That was one of the better shows I've seen because Dennis sounded amazing, he played most of his hits songs, but they also played a few tracks from Edge Of The Century which is a very underrated album and he also played Desert Moon from his 1st solo release (granted this was before 100 Years From Now when IMO was a weak effort so I can't comment on his current setlist).

Both bands put on a great show and really at this point in the game who cares who is performing what as long as the band(s) are out performing and you're enjoying the music is all that matters.