Styx - Current Fall Tour Interview

[Toph]

yah.. it's not a joke

http://store.styxworld.com/store/Catego ... ?id=Albums

That is some seriously screwed up pricing.

I can get it for less at Ebay .That is crazy.

These guys are all about the almighty dollar saying "In God We Trust!"

[brywool]

wait- 30.00 for an EP?

As I said, still a better bargain than the one track "Can't Stop Rockin'" package ...

I just don't want this to get lumped into the argument that Styx makes about "Well, we put stuff out and people don't buy it, so therefore, we're just not going to do anything new ever again.

It's more accurate to say remakes then new in regards to this release. One new song just doesn't cut it in my book as "new material". After all, it could be said that the majority of people looking to buy this lame project are mostly going to be die hard fans. So, maybe that is the reason for the price gouging. It could be they don't expect to sell more then a couple hundred or so. Who knows. Personally, I would only pay that kind of price for something that was rare or out of print that I just had to have. Not for rehash.

my point is, if they'd lower the price to say $10.00 - $12.00 (it's an EP!), the'd sell a lot more and maybe they'd be a bit more positive on doing new things. I know that there's only ONE new song here.
Oh well. Another missed opportunity.

[brywool]

$30 for remakes? Wow... That is amazingly high. Hell Journey's album of remakes AND a CD of new material was $5 less than that - and you could get it at Walmart for even less.

AND it included a DVD. It went Platinum for the band.

[froy]

$30 for remakes? Wow... That is amazingly high. Hell Journey's album of remakes AND a CD of new material was $5 less than that - and you could get it at Walmart for even less.

AND it included a DVD. It went Platinum for the band.

Bottom line they are milking the STYX name to the grave. They will keep doing it till there is nobody left to pay.

[Boomchild]

wait- 30.00 for an EP?

As I said, still a better bargain than the one track "Can't Stop Rockin'" package ...

I just don't want this to get lumped into the argument that Styx makes about "Well, we put stuff out and people don't buy it, so therefore, we're just not going to do anything new ever again.

It's more accurate to say remakes then new in regards to this release. One new song just doesn't cut it in my book as "new material". After all, it could be said that the majority of people looking to buy this lame project are mostly going to be die hard fans. So, maybe that is the reason for the price gouging. It could be they don't expect to sell more then a couple hundred or so. Who knows. Personally, I would only pay that kind of price for something that was rare or out of print that I just had to have. Not for rehash.

my point is, if they'd lower the price to say $10.00 - $12.00 (it's an EP!), the'd sell a lot more and maybe they'd be a bit more positive on doing new things. I know that there's only ONE new song here.
Oh well. Another missed opportunity.

You are exactly right. Heck if it's self released, I think that fans would be willing to pay even a little more then $10 - $12. Maybe they'll start at this high price then drop it down to a rational price when they don't move. After all, I'm sure they would rather not let them collect dust or use them as coasters. I think that if they don't reduce the price then that is where they will end up.

[brywool]

You are exactly right. Heck if it's self released, I think that fans would be willing to pay even a little more then $10 - $12.

I dunno. A fair price is a fair price. If it's a 6 song EP (and I don't know that it is), then 2.00 per song is pretty reasonable. It's certainly higher than the iTunes rate (though I see Styx is charging .99 - 1.99 for their songs there), but still, reasonable. The iTunes rate doesn't include artwork or packaging. But the $30.00 price... man, that's just not great. I'm not sure why Styx (a multi-platinum, mega-touring, mega royal-collecting band) needs to charge that much for an EP. Unfortunately, on the surface, it looks like the TophFroy's are right on this one. OR, it could be that Styx and older rock and roll bands in general, are barely hanging on to their jobs.

I wonder, is it really that dire out there, or is it simply that it's not as great for these acts as it once was and they can't adjust their thinking to it? I dunno.

One way the band could do this differently is to drive fans to iTunes for the new tracks with some kind of coupon on with their show tickets. "Go to iTunes and download our new EP "Regeneration" for $12.00". This way, there's no CD packaging costs. They can have the artwork be electronic. It's a win win. Fans hit iTunes and get a fair-priced release and Styx doesn't have to deal with the packaging, distribution, and printing costs.

I think Prince and Journey gave away CDs at their shows. To me, that's pretty extreme and a big expense for the bands. But making iTunes do the heavy lifting for them would definitely save them money AND make them look better in the eyes of the fans.

Not complaining, just an idea...

[kgdjpubs]

I think Prince and Journey gave away CDs at their shows. To me, that's pretty extreme and a big expense for the bands.

Frankly, I'm surprised most bands haven't followed suit. Build in $5 for the ticket price to cover the cd. Self-release the cds, and the money goes straight to the band. With that volume, you would be looking at pennies to press the cds. Play for 15,000 a night for a fifty date tour, that turns out to be....$75,000 per show and $3,750,000 to the band for the tour, minus maybe $10,000 to make the cds. Easy money.

[froy]

I think Prince and Journey gave away CDs at their shows. To me, that's pretty extreme and a big expense for the bands.

Frankly, I'm surprised most bands haven't followed suit. Build in $5 for the ticket price to cover the cd.

There ticket prices are way to high as it is. there is no room left for a 5 buck increase

Play for 15,000 a night for a fifty date tour,

What are you smoking dude ?
Never going to happen

[kgdjpubs]

I think Prince and Journey gave away CDs at their shows. To me, that's pretty extreme and a big expense for the bands.

Frankly, I'm surprised most bands haven't followed suit. Build in $5 for the ticket price to cover the cd.

There ticket prices are way to high as it is. there is no room left for a 5 buck increase

There are other ways also, like selling soundboard recordings at the show on an mp3 device. Rob Thomas/Matchbox 20 has done it at ~$25, and there is always a pretty decent-sized line to buy them. There are ways to make a bit of extra money AND give the fans something they want without doing an obvious ripoff.

Play for 15,000 a night for a fifty date tour,

What are you smoking dude ?
Never going to happen

That post was more referring to Journey, Prince and other bands who have the ability to draw 15k crowds. Obviously, Styx is not in the same position.

[yogi]

I just saw on TV that if you order the Ginsu Knife Set they will give you free ANY Styx CD offered on Styxworld. It is a seperate processing fee, but that's not too bad a deal.

[yogi]

Scratch that, my bad, if you order the Ginsu Knife set you can choose from Styx Rockers, 20Th Century Live, Big Bang Theory, Arch Allies, Styx World, What If , Out On A Day Pass. or Regirgitation for free.

These are the only CD's available for free. A seperate processing fee applies. The processing fee is $1.99 so its a TOTAL rip off.

[Everett]

How many knife's come in the set yogi?

[yogi]

I am not 100% sure. I do know that if you choose 'Out On A Day Pass' or 'What If' as one of your free CD's( not including $1.99 processing charge) they include an extra knife so that you can slit your own throat after you are done listening.

[Rockwriter]

I am not 100% sure. I do know that if you choose 'Out On A Day Pass' or 'What If' as one of your free CD's( not including $1.99 processing charge) they include an extra knife so that you can slit your own throat after you are done listening.

I have to give you that one on 'What If'! I STILL want my money back on that one. I bet A&M does, too. Even Tommy hates it.


Sterling

[Boomchild]

I am not 100% sure. I do know that if you choose 'Out On A Day Pass' or 'What If' as one of your free CD's( not including $1.99 processing charge) they include an extra knife so that you can slit your own throat after you are done listening.

I have to give you that one on 'What If'! I STILL want my money back on that one. I bet A&M does, too. Even Tommy hates it.


Sterling

Funny how things look different once you sober up. I see a real opportunity here for Styx. They could re-record those songs too for bonus tracks on Regeneration Part 2. Then more people would be willing to shell out $30 for that one.

[Ash]

I am not 100% sure. I do know that if you choose 'Out On A Day Pass' or 'What If' as one of your free CD's( not including $1.99 processing charge) they include an extra knife so that you can slit your own throat after you are done listening.

THAT was the best laugh I've had in a few days. That was really, really funny dude. Tip of the ole' hat to ya.

Day Pass wasn't worth the plastic it was printed on.

What If was pretty good musically, but lyrically it was incredibly weak. By comparison I think "Back To The World" (DDY's 2nd solo album) was MUCH stronger than Desert Moon. Even Boomchild had good moments although it was much more obscure. I don't consider Ambition a Tommy Shaw album. It was co-writen by the producer and had that god-awful "Bad Company: Holy Water" effect all over the harmonies that made the two albums sound the same.

[Boomchild]

I am not 100% sure. I do know that if you choose 'Out On A Day Pass' or 'What If' as one of your free CD's( not including $1.99 processing charge) they include an extra knife so that you can slit your own throat after you are done listening.

What If was pretty good musically, but lyrically it was incredibly weak.

What do you mean? With such great lyrics as "Let's get naked, take a dip, you be the submarine I'll be the ship". That's just gold I tell ya, GOLD!

[yogi]

To me those lyrics sound like Tommy's got a little bit of Chuck in him( no pun intended).



(I Hope)!!