Star Plaza show spoiler, Set List included

[ChicagoSTYX]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

[froy]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

To hard for STYX John 's style fits, Todd needs to go play for Guns and Roses

[StyxCollector]

That's around 2800. Still around a $100,000 show..not bad.

Where do you get $100k from?

[LtVanish]

Another note, Froy's favorite album Regeneration is now marked up to $20. It is literally marked up too, the $15 dollar sign was scribbled out and $20 marked next to it!

See, that I'd have a huge problem with. Make new signs. Although $20 makes sense from a purchasing standpoint - just hand 'em a $20 bill.

What was the other merch like? Any cool shirts?

They actually looked like a bunch of new items up for sale. A cool Pieces of Eight album cover shirt, Renegade shirt, Styx coffee mugs, I have no idea if they were new or not actually I really havent seen the band in a couple of years.

[LtVanish]

The Star Plaza Theatre holds 3500 people I believe, I would say it was 80% full. The crowd was pretty into the show I thought, there was more cheer though to the usual songs.

Wow a thousand empty seats not good

If there are only about 30000 people living in Merrillville,I don't know how many theatres they got.
Let's say they got a theatre that holds 500 people and then the Star Plaza that holds 3500,and no other theatres,there isn't really that much choice
of where to play.If there is 30000 people living there,then 2500 turnout is pretty descent I would say.
Doubt that would make sense to you.
Maybe Lt.Vanish can help us out with the demographics please.

Even if you exclude the fact that Merrillville is close to Chicago, NW Indiana itself has over 600,000 people living within 20 mins of this theatre. The main problem I think is Styx has overplayed this venue to death, at least once a year they are booked to play. It is a great place to see a show though, very nice theatre in a great location, plenty of free parking. I am a sucker for free parking.

[gr8dane]

The Star Plaza Theatre holds 3500 people I believe, I would say it was 80% full. The crowd was pretty into the show I thought, there was more cheer though to the usual songs.

Wow a thousand empty seats not good

If there are only about 30000 people living in Merrillville,I don't know how many theatres they got.
Let's say they got a theatre that holds 500 people and then the Star Plaza that holds 3500,and no other theatres,there isn't really that much choice
of where to play.If there is 30000 people living there,then 2500 turnout is pretty descent I would say.
Doubt that would make sense to you.
Maybe Lt.Vanish can help us out with the demographics please.

Even if you exclude the fact that Merrillville is close to Chicago, NW Indiana itself has over 600,000 people living within 20 mins of this theatre. The main problem I think is Styx has overplayed this venue to death, at least once a year they are booked to play. It is a great place to see a show though, very nice theatre in a great location, plenty of free parking. I am a sucker for free parking.

Thank you.
Yea,free is good.

[froy]

That's around 2800. Still around a $100,000 show..not bad.

Where do you get $100k from?

He made it up

[Saint John]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

[StyxCollector]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

It's more like $50+. Take out venue fees, Ticketmaster, management, trucking, stage crew, etc., the band members individually will probably split $75k based on what % they get (and I would assume JY and TS take the lion's share). Maybe more. Since I don't know what the breakdown is, I would be surprised if they cleared $100k every night like that.

That said, it's still a VERY good living compared to doing what I do every day or what everyone else here does for that matter. I'd do it if I got the opportunity.

[Rockwriter]

Here's part of a song from 10/15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OU3uCXk27s

That was one I've been very curious to hear. I think I'd be a bit disappointed after that clip, JY didn't even sound like he was trying.

Sounded to me like he was trying too hard, actually. Pushing to hit some highs and overshooting them a bit or breaking. Sounds as if he has some strain in that clip and is trying to compensate. Not surprising . . . I've heard through the grapevine the guys pushed a bit too hard in rehearsals and are trying to get their voices rested. I was supposed to interview them before the tour and it is on hold for now, because they are doing as little talking right now as possible. Hopefully that's still coming up, we'll have to see how it goes.

Don't forget, these songs would be vocally challenging for almost any band in its twenties, not to mention people in their fifties and sixties.

I have to say the production looks really cool, from what I can see on the videos on YouTube. Music sounds great, too. Looking forward to it . . . by the time they get to Nashville they should be plenty rested, we're late in the tour. The vocals should be at 100% by then.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

It's more like $50+. Take out venue fees, Ticketmaster, management, trucking, stage crew, etc., the band members individually will probably split $75k based on what % they get (and I would assume JY and TS take the lion's share). Maybe more. Since I don't know what the breakdown is, I would be surprised if they cleared $100k every night like that.

That said, it's still a VERY good living compared to doing what I do every day or what everyone else here does for that matter. I'd do it if I got the opportunity.

Let's not forget that is ticket sales alone. Merchandising is another revenue stream altogether. A very healthy percentage of profit derives from merchandise sales.

As for me, I would NOT do it if I got the opportunity. I like my house, Carla, my dogs and my life too much. Touring would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stress and worry for me, for any amount of money. People tend to think it's some gravy train, some kind of easy money . . . think again. That's about the hardest money I can think of in the world. I can't tell you how many of the people I interview have had big chunks of their lives literally destroyed by it. Not for me, thanks.


Sterling

[Saint John]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

It's more like $50+. Take out venue fees, Ticketmaster, management, trucking, stage crew, etc., the band members individually will probably split $75k based on what % they get (and I would assume JY and TS take the lion's share). Maybe more. Since I don't know what the breakdown is, I would be surprised if they cleared $100k every night like that.

That said, it's still a VERY good living compared to doing what I do every day or what everyone else here does for that matter. I'd do it if I got the opportunity.

Let's not forget that is ticket sales alone. Merchandising is another revenue stream altogether. A very healthy percentage of profit derives from merchandise sales.

As for me, I would NOT do it if I got the opportunity. I like my house, Carla, my dogs and my life too much. Touring would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stress and worry for me, for any amount of money. People tend to think it's some gravy train, some kind of easy money . . . think again. That's about the hardest money I can think of in the world. I can't tell you how many of the people I interview have had big chunks of their lives literally destroyed by it. Not for me, thanks.


Sterling

There's a lot of merit to your post, man. I would do it NOW because I know I could handle the vices of the road. I have no desire to do drugs, drink like a fish and fuck anything that moves. That said, 10-15 years ago, given the opportunity to tour as a band member, I would have died on the road.

[StyxCollector]

Let's not forget that is ticket sales alone. Merchandising is another revenue stream altogether. A very healthy percentage of profit derives from merchandise sales.

I didn't mention merch on purpose. The house usually gets a cut (usually in the area of 10% in my experience), but most of that is pure profit - a $40 shirt which costs under $5, etc.

As for me, I would NOT do it if I got the opportunity. I like my house, Carla, my dogs and my life too much. Touring would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stress and worry for me, for any amount of money. People tend to think it's some gravy train, some kind of easy money . . . think again. That's about the hardest money I can think of in the world. I can't tell you how many of the people I interview have had big chunks of their lives literally destroyed by it. Not for me, thanks.

I would do more what Dennis does - weekends. Or a short tour. But it would be jazz, and much less of a production. I think it would be fun to do the rock thing for a bit, but I think I'd get bored after awhile. I'll do a show or two for my new jazz album, but most likely local. I'm doing a one off Bowie/QUeen tribute show in a few weeks, but that's the first rock project I've done in a long time.

[Archetype]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

[brywool]

LOTR- the clown graphics... what the hell? Have to agree, sounds like JY phoned in the vocals.

[Everett]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

[brywool]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

The Message sounds like a kid falling over the keyboard rack in a music store. Seriously lame piece of "music". Another time where Dennis should've self-edited.

[Everett]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

The Message sounds like a kid falling over the keyboard rack in a music store. Seriously lame piece of "music". Another time where Dennis should've self-edited.

Couldn't agree more

[cittadeeno23]

That spinning keyboard is so goddamn annoying.

[Archetype]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

To hard for STYX John 's style fits, Todd needs to go play for Guns and Roses

Gotta wonder what you think of Deen Castronovo in Journey then...

[brywool]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

To hard for STYX John 's style fits, Todd needs to go play for Guns and Roses

Gotta wonder what you think of Deen Castronovo in Journey then...

Deen's nowhere near the drummer Todd or Smith is. He's decent, but seems to lack a bit of finesse at times. Still, a drummer who can sing like Deen... can't really argue with that!

[LtVanish]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

To hard for STYX John 's style fits, Todd needs to go play for Guns and Roses

Gotta wonder what you think of Deen Castronovo in Journey then...

I personally don't like Deen's tone to his drums, I hate flat sounding toms.

[bugsymalone]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

The Message sounds like a kid falling over the keyboard rack in a music store. Seriously lame piece of "music". Another time where Dennis should've self-edited.

I always thought it was kinda cool. Sort of mysterious and majestic at the same time, not unlike the Tolkien books.

Who knows, Bry, maybe he DID fall over the keyboard and thought "Hmmm...that sounds interesting. Maybe I'll build on that. Once I work my hand out of this speaker."


Bugsy

[froy]

The one you have all been waiting for....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_prEtr4rs

Todd is a awful drummer

Froy, now everyone will know your crazy!

To hard for STYX John 's style fits, Todd needs to go play for Guns and Roses

Gotta wonder what you think of Deen Castronovo in Journey then...

Good question I would rather see Steve Smith in Journey any day.
Dean is a banger also. Difference though Dean can sing great harmonies,

[Rockwriter]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

It's more like $50+. Take out venue fees, Ticketmaster, management, trucking, stage crew, etc., the band members individually will probably split $75k based on what % they get (and I would assume JY and TS take the lion's share). Maybe more. Since I don't know what the breakdown is, I would be surprised if they cleared $100k every night like that.

That said, it's still a VERY good living compared to doing what I do every day or what everyone else here does for that matter. I'd do it if I got the opportunity.

Let's not forget that is ticket sales alone. Merchandising is another revenue stream altogether. A very healthy percentage of profit derives from merchandise sales.

As for me, I would NOT do it if I got the opportunity. I like my house, Carla, my dogs and my life too much. Touring would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stress and worry for me, for any amount of money. People tend to think it's some gravy train, some kind of easy money . . . think again. That's about the hardest money I can think of in the world. I can't tell you how many of the people I interview have had big chunks of their lives literally destroyed by it. Not for me, thanks.


Sterling

There's a lot of merit to your post, man. I would do it NOW because I know I could handle the vices of the road. I have no desire to do drugs, drink like a fish and fuck anything that moves. That said, 10-15 years ago, given the opportunity to tour as a band member, I would have died on the road.

I understand what you mean . . . on the one hand, the road is tough for young people because they might not have the tools to deal with the incredible temptations. On the other hand the road is tough for older people because they have more ties to houses, families and so on and so forth.

Bottom line, the road is tough, and not for everyone. Certainly not for me. Studio work, that's more my speed, thanks.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

The Message sounds like a kid falling over the keyboard rack in a music store. Seriously lame piece of "music". Another time where Dennis should've self-edited.

Funny, just shows here again how different tastes can be. I've always thought it was really cool, and different for the band. Very abstract, not at all typical Dennis - but that's why I liked it. I could've seen it on a far more progressive record, something like Van der graaf Generator. And the solo in the middle of "Lords of the Ring," with that wild tone and all the half-steps, MAN I love that!

Sterling

[froy]

How did Gowan do on The Message? Did he play it note-for-note?

Yup. Though i wasn't really paying attention cause i thought dennis was coming out

The Message sounds like a kid falling over the keyboard rack in a music store. Seriously lame piece of "music". Another time where Dennis should've self-edited.

Funny, just shows here again how different tastes can be. I've always thought it was really cool, and different for the band. Very abstract, not at all typical Dennis - but that's why I liked it. I could've seen it on a far more progressive record, something like Van der graaf Generator. And the solo in the middle of "Lords of the Ring," with that wild tone and all the half-steps, MAN I love that!

Sterling

I agree The message is way cool.

[LtVanish]

I wonder if "The Message" was the original opening track for the album, it does kinda seem out of place in the middle end of side 1.

[Ehwmatt]

I'm assuming 2,800 tickets sold X about $35-$40 per ticket = roughly $100,000 gross dollars for the show.

It's more like $50+. Take out venue fees, Ticketmaster, management, trucking, stage crew, etc., the band members individually will probably split $75k based on what % they get (and I would assume JY and TS take the lion's share). Maybe more. Since I don't know what the breakdown is, I would be surprised if they cleared $100k every night like that.

That said, it's still a VERY good living compared to doing what I do every day or what everyone else here does for that matter. I'd do it if I got the opportunity.

Let's not forget that is ticket sales alone. Merchandising is another revenue stream altogether. A very healthy percentage of profit derives from merchandise sales.

As for me, I would NOT do it if I got the opportunity. I like my house, Carla, my dogs and my life too much. Touring would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stress and worry for me, for any amount of money. People tend to think it's some gravy train, some kind of easy money . . . think again. That's about the hardest money I can think of in the world. I can't tell you how many of the people I interview have had big chunks of their lives literally destroyed by it. Not for me, thanks.


Sterling

There's a lot of merit to your post, man. I would do it NOW because I know I could handle the vices of the road. I have no desire to do drugs, drink like a fish and fuck anything that moves. That said, 10-15 years ago, given the opportunity to tour as a band member, I would have died on the road.

[FormerDJMike]

I think charging 20 bucks for the CD is a little high. I wouldn't pay 20 for the double gold set when I can buy it at WalMart for 11.88. Over twice as many songs, cheaper AND the original versions. More than 10 bucks for 7 re-records is too steep.