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Time for Luke and the boys to lawyer up again...

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu May 12, 2011 1:02 am

I'll let the video speak for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ZJH8RQFcE
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Postby TotoFan77 » Thu May 12, 2011 5:07 am

Yeah, that's definitely wrong. How many people are really gonna see that video though? It's just for You Tube right? I doubt many people will see it. I wonder if we can get Andrew to get Luke to comment on this.
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Thu May 12, 2011 2:06 pm

There's nothing actually wrong with that ad from a legal perspective. (Keep in mind, some of the ads for Luke's 2008 solo tour mentioned 'Toto' in them as well, if I remember right) This is a non-story. Lame ad that looks like it was made using Microsoft Paint, but a non-story.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu May 12, 2011 2:38 pm

WalrusOct9 wrote:There's nothing actually wrong with that ad from a legal perspective. (Keep in mind, some of the ads for Luke's 2008 solo tour mentioned 'Toto' in them as well, if I remember right) This is a non-story. Lame ad that looks like it was made using Microsoft Paint, but a non-story.


I disagree here... Luke owns the name and rights to Toto (and rightfully so!). Bobby's management is (in this clip anyways) posting a Toto clip to promote Bobby. WAY wrong, as Bobby doesn't have permission from those involved to post such a song. This will only fuel the flames between them, and rightfully so! I know Bobby has no control over this, but it's bullshit!!! :?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu May 12, 2011 10:15 pm

WalrusOct9 wrote:There's nothing actually wrong with that ad from a legal perspective. (Keep in mind, some of the ads for Luke's 2008 solo tour mentioned 'Toto' in them as well, if I remember right) This is a non-story. Lame ad that looks like it was made using Microsoft Paint, but a non-story.


Touting Bobby as the voice behind "I Won't Hold You Back" is sleazy as hell. The dude was even in the band during that period.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu May 12, 2011 10:16 pm

TotoFan77 wrote:How many people are really gonna see that video though? It's just for You Tube right?


I dunno. I got the vibe that it would run on TV stations in the market where the venue is.
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Postby DracIsBack » Fri May 13, 2011 3:05 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Touting Bobby as the voice behind "I Won't Hold You Back" is sleazy as hell. The dude was even in the band during that period.


He wasn't on Toto IV? :P

I actually didn't find this as bad as has been in the past. They weren't trying to pass him off as "Toto", which has happened. The promotion of him as the 'voice' was goofy for that song though.

This was crazy though:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=QU ... %2C7131504
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Postby St.George » Fri May 13, 2011 9:11 am

Here's Luke's response, via Facebook:

Numinor Zed posted the video and this comment in Steve Lukather wall:

"Known for his soulful timeless hits?" WTF!? This is absolutely offensive, disgusting and pathetic. He doesn't respect the fans, nor the legacy. So F*CK YOU BOBBY! :evil:

Here's the reaction:


1st reply:
Steve Lukather:
I would say go to HIS facebook and call BULLSHIT! This is typical BK.. and he wonders why will will never work with him again.. sad.

(...)

2nd reply:
Steve Lukather:
I should not have written that. I go to his level.. It DOES bug us, it has for 25+YEARS. He used to do it under the radar and sell Toto swag etc, but we live in an internet world. I am getting e mails from all over about this. I sent it to management but he will doit anyway, time and time again, till NO ONE shows up, they probably wont anyway. BUT using OUR photos ?? Anyone can sing these songs man. BUT to use Toto photo's from Hydra and MIS lead people? FORMERLY of Toto he can do legally but what can I say? He wont stop till no one shows up. He has burned WAY too many bridges. I feel sorry for him really.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 13, 2011 2:41 pm

St.George wrote:Here's Luke's response, via Facebook:

Numinor Zed posted the video and this comment in Steve Lukather wall:

"Known for his soulful timeless hits?" WTF!? This is absolutely offensive, disgusting and pathetic. He doesn't respect the fans, nor the legacy. So F*CK YOU BOBBY! :evil:

Here's the reaction:


1st reply:
Steve Lukather:
I would say go to HIS facebook and call BULLSHIT! This is typical BK.. and he wonders why will will never work with him again.. sad.

(...)

2nd reply:
Steve Lukather:
I should not have written that. I go to his level.. It DOES bug us, it has for 25+YEARS. He used to do it under the radar and sell Toto swag etc, but we live in an internet world. I am getting e mails from all over about this. I sent it to management but he will doit anyway, time and time again, till NO ONE shows up, they probably wont anyway. BUT using OUR photos ?? Anyone can sing these songs man. BUT to use Toto photo's from Hydra and MIS lead people? FORMERLY of Toto he can do legally but what can I say? He wont stop till no one shows up. He has burned WAY too many bridges. I feel sorry for him really.



Thanks for posting. Like Neal, Luke always calls it like it is. Respect.
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Postby JohnH » Sat May 14, 2011 2:34 pm

This same type of shenanigans is what got Fran Cosmo fired from Boston. And it was really idiotic, because Fran was really needed when Brad died, but he'd gotten himself canned just before. Michael Sweet and Tommy did a great job, though.
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Mon May 16, 2011 11:43 pm

Hmm, guess it's more serious than I thought. Sad, really.

I still feel for the guy, I mean...what else is he going to do to make a living? He doesn't get royalties off those hits, since most were written by Paich.
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Postby St.George » Wed May 18, 2011 7:10 am

WalrusOct9 wrote:Hmm, guess it's more serious than I thought. Sad, really.

I still feel for the guy, I mean...what else is he going to do to make a living? He doesn't get royalties off those hits, since most were written by Paich.


Well, IMO he should not BULLSHIT the people, and specially the fans. He should respect his bandmates and he shouldn't take credit on things he's not an author of. He could do things in a more honorable way.
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