Tommy On Rockline 5/18

[Baron Von Bielski]

I pitty you tophie. You give scum a bad name. I feel bad for your family that has a dumbass like you to deal with all the time.

That's a bit harsh don't you think. By the way you spelled pity wrong.

[Everett]

I pitty you tophie. You give scum a bad name. I feel bad for your family that has a dumbass like you to deal with all the time.

That's a bit harsh don't you think. By the way you spelled pity wrong.

Turnabout is fair play my friend

[styxfansite]

The program is now up on the Rockline archive.

Looks like no new album, not for a while anyway. He said everyone wants the classics.

Also they played Original Styx (Tommy) Classics...no regurg here folks.

[Boomchild]

The program is now up on the Rockline archive.

Looks like no new album, not for a while anyway. He said everyone wants the classics.

Also they played Original Styx (Tommy) Classics...no regurg here folks.

And this is excuse number???

[Baron Von Bielski]

The program is now up on the Rockline archive.

Looks like no new album, not for a while anyway. He said everyone wants the classics.

Also they played Original Styx (Tommy) Classics...no regurg here folks.

That sounds like KISS... though they put out an album in 2009 and are working on another, they don't play their new stuff live claiming fans only wanna hear the classics.

[brywool]

What IS IT with fans that just want to hear old stuff?
Also, hasn't this always been the case with a new album? It's weird how that's changed, not to mention sad.

[Baron Von Bielski]

What IS IT with fans that just want to hear old stuff?
Also, hasn't this always been the case with a new album? It's weird how that's changed, not to mention sad.

Don't get me wrong, I like the classics... but mixing a live show with maybe 4-5 new songs with 11-12 classics sounds like a good recipe to me. Genesis, another band I like always used to do like 6 new songs during a show. They understood the importance of if you want the casual attendee to buy your album... you had to play some of it. The flip side is if you want to keep the die hard interested... you have to put out an album now and again.

[Boomchild]

What IS IT with fans that just want to hear old stuff?
Also, hasn't this always been the case with a new album? It's weird how that's changed, not to mention sad.

It may be because most of the people coming to see them are casual fans that are only familiar with the hit songs and the stuff that got\gets airplay. They couldn't give a rats ass for anything else they do.

[Baron Von Bielski]

On a side note, I inquired about the whole Everett-Glen event and read all the old posts regarding it. My issue is the song Mr. Roboto. Everett, what is so bad about that song? I was about 9 years old when that came out, so obviosly I wasn't really into music because of my young age. But when I heard the song on the radio (which was played a lot) I didn't see anything wrong with it. It's catchy. Very successful. #3 means the public liked it. At that point in time, songs like Babe and Mr. Roboto are what I thought of when I thought of Styx. It gave them their identiy in my eyes. Too Much Time on My Hands was another that was in the forefront and another song I thought of. All good songs in my opinion even if music wasn't my life like it is now. My point is that even though Roboto seems odd now and the whole concept seems like a dumb idea... it wasn't then. It was pretty cool and holds a special place with me. How can you hate it so much that you would shake your head or boo when DDY played it? You are a Styx fan right? Dennis made Styx successful. Yes, Tommy and JY did their part and they maybe wouldn't have been as successful without them, but without Dennis... they would have been nothing. Give him his credit. They are my favorite band and Tommy may be my favorite member, but Pieces of Eight is my favorite song. I support both sides, but it'll never be the same unless they give it another try. How could anyone prefer Gowan over Dennis??? It's ridiculous. And I am not bashing Larry. He's an amazing player, eh... an okay singer, but he does his part well. He is not Dennis and August Zadra is not Tommy. Please show some respect.

[Boomchild]

On a side note, I inquired about the whole Everett-Glen event and read all the old posts regarding it. My issue is the song Mr. Roboto. Everett, what is so bad about that song? I was about 9 years old when that came out, so obviosly I wasn't really into music because of my young age. But when I heard the song on the radio (which was played a lot) I didn't see anything wrong with it. It's catchy. Very successful. #3 means the public liked it. At that point in time, songs like Babe and Mr. Roboto are what I thought of when I thought of Styx. It gave them their identiy in my eyes. Too Much Time on My Hands was another that was in the forefront and another song I thought of. All good songs in my opinion even if music wasn't my life like it is now. My point is that even though Roboto seems odd now and the whole concept seems like a dumb idea... it wasn't then. It was pretty cool and holds a special place with me. How can you hate it so much that you would shake your head or boo when DDY played it? You are a Styx fan right? Dennis made Styx successful. Yes, Tommy and JY did their part and they maybe wouldn't have been as successful without them, but without Dennis... they would have been nothing. Give him his credit. They are my favorite band and Tommy may be my favorite member, but Pieces of Eight is my favorite song. I support both sides, but it'll never be the same unless they give it another try. How could anyone prefer Gowan over Dennis??? It's ridiculous. And I am not bashing Larry. He's an amazing player, eh... an okay singer, but he does his part well. He is not Dennis and August Zadra is not Tommy. Please show some respect.

I think it's because Babe and Mr. Roboto are considered some type of "death kneel" for the band. That those songs changed Styx from a hard rockin' band to a pop Top 40 band. In my opinion, Styx was never just a hard rocking band. They were a band with a diversity of musical styles. In fact, Dennis points out it was the musical influences on each other that made Styx what it was. I get a chuckle when TS or JY talk about how those songs were bad for the band. Without Babe the band wouldn't have a number one single.

[Baron Von Bielski]

On a side note, I inquired about the whole Everett-Glen event and read all the old posts regarding it. My issue is the song Mr. Roboto. Everett, what is so bad about that song? I was about 9 years old when that came out, so obviosly I wasn't really into music because of my young age. But when I heard the song on the radio (which was played a lot) I didn't see anything wrong with it. It's catchy. Very successful. #3 means the public liked it. At that point in time, songs like Babe and Mr. Roboto are what I thought of when I thought of Styx. It gave them their identiy in my eyes. Too Much Time on My Hands was another that was in the forefront and another song I thought of. All good songs in my opinion even if music wasn't my life like it is now. My point is that even though Roboto seems odd now and the whole concept seems like a dumb idea... it wasn't then. It was pretty cool and holds a special place with me. How can you hate it so much that you would shake your head or boo when DDY played it? You are a Styx fan right? Dennis made Styx successful. Yes, Tommy and JY did their part and they maybe wouldn't have been as successful without them, but without Dennis... they would have been nothing. Give him his credit. They are my favorite band and Tommy may be my favorite member, but Pieces of Eight is my favorite song. I support both sides, but it'll never be the same unless they give it another try. How could anyone prefer Gowan over Dennis??? It's ridiculous. And I am not bashing Larry. He's an amazing player, eh... an okay singer, but he does his part well. He is not Dennis and August Zadra is not Tommy. Please show some respect.

I think it's because Babe and Mr. Roboto are considered some type of "death kneel" for the band. That those songs changed Styx from a hard rockin' band to a pop Top 40 band. In my opinion, Styx was never just a hard rocking band. They were a band with a diversity of musical styles. In fact, Dennis points out it was the musical influences on each other that made Styx what it was. I get a chuckle when TS or JY talk about how those songs were bad for the band. Without Babe the band wouldn't have a number one single.

I agree, even though some ballads Dennis has written are pretty typical as far as the genre goes, I think Babe is different. Pretty much just a Fender Rhodes and Dennis. I know there are other elements, but you get my point. I think the song is incredible. And like I said it so reminds me of my childhood. I have read that TS and JY told Dennis to put it on the album. So how can they perceive as a death knell for the band? I get the whole not wanting to release First Time... TS didn't want ballads to become the identity of Styx. But threatening to quit is kind of a immature move. Anyways, I like Babe and Mr. Roboto. And Don't Let it End and Best of Times. Do I prefer songs like Pieces of Eight, Castle Walls, I'm OK and Queen of Spades? A little yes, but diversity is a good thing.

[Boomchild]

On a side note, I inquired about the whole Everett-Glen event and read all the old posts regarding it. My issue is the song Mr. Roboto. Everett, what is so bad about that song? I was about 9 years old when that came out, so obviosly I wasn't really into music because of my young age. But when I heard the song on the radio (which was played a lot) I didn't see anything wrong with it. It's catchy. Very successful. #3 means the public liked it. At that point in time, songs like Babe and Mr. Roboto are what I thought of when I thought of Styx. It gave them their identiy in my eyes. Too Much Time on My Hands was another that was in the forefront and another song I thought of. All good songs in my opinion even if music wasn't my life like it is now. My point is that even though Roboto seems odd now and the whole concept seems like a dumb idea... it wasn't then. It was pretty cool and holds a special place with me. How can you hate it so much that you would shake your head or boo when DDY played it? You are a Styx fan right? Dennis made Styx successful. Yes, Tommy and JY did their part and they maybe wouldn't have been as successful without them, but without Dennis... they would have been nothing. Give him his credit. They are my favorite band and Tommy may be my favorite member, but Pieces of Eight is my favorite song. I support both sides, but it'll never be the same unless they give it another try. How could anyone prefer Gowan over Dennis??? It's ridiculous. And I am not bashing Larry. He's an amazing player, eh... an okay singer, but he does his part well. He is not Dennis and August Zadra is not Tommy. Please show some respect.

I think it's because Babe and Mr. Roboto are considered some type of "death kneel" for the band. That those songs changed Styx from a hard rockin' band to a pop Top 40 band. In my opinion, Styx was never just a hard rocking band. They were a band with a diversity of musical styles. In fact, Dennis points out it was the musical influences on each other that made Styx what it was. I get a chuckle when TS or JY talk about how those songs were bad for the band. Without Babe the band wouldn't have a number one single.

I agree, even though some ballads Dennis has written are pretty typical as far as the genre goes, I think Babe is different. Pretty much just a Fender Rhodes and Dennis. I know there are other elements, but you get my point. I think the song is incredible. And like I said it so reminds me of my childhood. I have read that TS and JY told Dennis to put it on the album. So how can they perceive as a death knell for the band? I get the whole not wanting to release First Time... TS didn't want ballads to become the identity of Styx. But threatening to quit is kind of a immature move. Anyways, I like Babe and Mr. Roboto. And Don't Let it End and Best of Times. Do I prefer songs like Pieces of Eight, Castle Walls, I'm OK and Queen of Spades? A little yes, but diversity is a good thing.

While Babe is not one of my favorites and feel it's been played to death, I can remember exactly when and where I first heard it. It seems at times JY and TS wanted things both ways. They wanted success and to move the band further, collected the checks from that success and then want to complain that it wasn't the right music for the band. Furthermore, they wanted to stay with a direction that was dying out in popularity. They weren't the type of band that had legions of fans that followed them no matter what they did (i.e. Rush). So from a business standpoint I can see why Dennis chose that direction. I'm sure the record label also had a hand in wanting something that was in the style of popular music at the time. As far as Tommy's actions at the time, that's typical Tommy. Not to mention that he would not confront people directly when he had an issue with them. The simple fact is the changes in direction made the band more successful which they all benefited from. So it doesn't seem to me that anyone was getting hurt by it.