Interview with Chuck

[Toph]

Clearly there is a new company line that is out there now about Dennis...

Chuck is a backstabber...

http://www.accessatlanta.com/AccessAtla ... 12336.html

[Boomchild]

Clearly there is a new company line that is out there now about Dennis...

Chuck is a backstabber...

http://www.accessatlanta.com/AccessAtla ... 12336.html

I can't see where he and Dennis would have problems directly. Chuck wasn't a writer or a major decision maker in the band. In fact, I would argue that he could have been easily replaced and no one (except John) would have noticed. Without Dennis Chuck would not have had the successful career he did. Nice way to pay Dennis back there good buddy.

[yogi]

Froy, Boomchild, Whoever,

Give it a rest. Since Dennis was ousted we have had: Bill Clinton's impeachment trail, Two terms of George W Bush, 9/11, 2 Wars , Our First A Black President, 11 World Series, The Red &White Sox winning the World Series, 11 Super Bowls...................................................... etc............... etc........................................
Dennis & Styx are both happy.

As MUCH as I would love to see them back together in the SAME band lets give it a rest and let it all play out the way that the players want it to.

In the meantime they can hook up together in seperate bands and play back to back to back to back triple platinum albums.

My idea RULES!!!!!!

[Ash]

It never ceases to amaze me. Chuck can say whatever he wants. So can Tommy and JY for all that matters.

The period to the sentence is that whenever the writer of the article attempts to remind people who Styx is, 80% of their musical references are to songs penned or performed by the guy in the band nobody has a nice word to say about.

If someone had made me a millionaire (or even hundred-thousand-aire for that matter), I'd have nothing to say but thank you.

Dennis may not have always been easy to live or work with, but he made it worth your while. Sometimes work is tough and you need to work with people you don't like to be successful.

On the other hand - sometimes it's fine to be along for the ride or to make sacrifices that ultimately benefit you. I'd take a punch from Mike Tyson to be a millionaire .... and I'd thank him for doing it.

[cittadeeno23]

I'm failing to see where Chuck said anything negative about Dennis in that article.
I agree that Chuck should be thankful that Dennis made him rich, but where in that article did he say anything bad about Dennis???

[Toph]

I'm failing to see where Chuck said anything negative about Dennis in that article.
I agree that Chuck should be thankful that Dennis made him rich, but where in that article did he say anything bad about Dennis???

The new company line about "how difficult Dennis is to work with" and how a reunion won't happen - interesting that 6 months ago or so he discussed how he really hoped that a reunion could happen "before anyone else passes". I guess Pinocchio and Brusco threatened to cut him off if he didn't change his tune.

The erasure of all things Dennis from the website is also completely absurd.

[styxfansite]

I'm failing to see where Chuck said anything negative about Dennis in that article.
I agree that Chuck should be thankful that Dennis made him rich, but where in that article did he say anything bad about Dennis???

The new company line about "how difficult Dennis is to work with" and how a reunion won't happen - interesting that 6 months ago or so he discussed how he really hoped that a reunion could happen "before anyone else passes". I guess Pinocchio and Brusco threatened to cut him off if he didn't change his tune.

The erasure of all things Dennis from the website is also completely absurd.

I saw a post on the facebook page in the discusions section where a user posted a comment on the wall asking what happened to Dennis in the history (something on those lines), and that comment was removed and I don't think the user was all to happy about it.

Also, on styxworld, Chuck does mention Dennis in his bio (or it was there the other day).

[Boomchild]

I'm failing to see where Chuck said anything negative about Dennis in that article.
I agree that Chuck should be thankful that Dennis made him rich, but where in that article did he say anything bad about Dennis???

He didn't say anything positive either. It's not so much that he directly said something negative. It is just the simple fact that he turned his back on the person that always supported him and helped Chuck become successful as well.

[Boomchild]

Froy, Boomchild, Whoever,

Give it a rest. Since Dennis was ousted we have had: Bill Clinton's impeachment trail, Two terms of George W Bush, 9/11, 2 Wars , Our First A Black President, 11 World Series, The Red &White Sox winning the World Series, 11 Super Bowls...................................................... etc............... etc........................................
Dennis & Styx are both happy.

As MUCH as I would love to see them back together in the SAME band lets give it a rest and let it all play out the way that the players want it to.

In the meantime they can hook up together in seperate bands and play back to back to back to back triple platinum albums.

My idea RULES!!!!!!

For the record, I am not advocating a reunion with Dennis and Styx. He doesn't need to do it. Who would want to be in the company of people who tossed you out on the street when you were trying to recover from an illness. Maybe Dennis should have tossed Chuck out when he came down with Aids. Any type of reunion between these people would end up in a train wreck anyway.

[Archetype]

Well Chuck has done a 180 since the interview where he wanted to see a reunion since none of them were getting any younger.

My take on it is this:

Tommy, Chuck, JY, and John just wanted to drink/do cocaine/have gay sex/have straight sex all the time. Dennis had a work ethic and probably tried to instill a work ethic in the other four guys, and that's why they hate him so much. They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Don't try to use Cyclorama to prove me wrong. Those songs were written over the span of at least ten years. These Are The Times was originally slated for the Return To Paradise CD

[Boomchild]

Well Chuck has done a 180 since the interview where he wanted to see a reunion since none of them were getting any younger.

My take on it is this:

Tommy, Chuck, JY, and John just wanted to drink/do cocaine/have gay sex/have straight sex all the time. Denins had a work ethic and probably tried to instill a work ethic in the other four guys, and that's why they hate him so much. They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Don't try to use Cyclorama to prove me wrong. Those songs were written over the span of at least ten years. These Are The Times was originally slated for the Return To Paradise CD

Well, at least we know Tommy wanted to live in the party fast lane. Even some of his close friends remarked "Tommy didn't just burn the candle at both ends, he threw it in the fire". His party and drug habit had to have a negative effect on the workings of the band and how the members interacted. Dennis frowned upon drug use by the time TS joined the band. I'm not sure how John's drinking affected the band during their hay day. This is why I don't believe the "Dennis was the problem and the only problem" theory.

[froy]

Well Chuck has done a 180 since the interview where he wanted to see a reunion since none of them were getting any younger.

My take on it is this:

Tommy, Chuck, JY, and John just wanted to drink/do cocaine/have gay sex/have straight sex all the time. Denins had a work ethic and probably tried to instill a work ethic in the other four guys, and that's why they hate him so much. They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Don't try to use Cyclorama to prove me wrong. Those songs were written over the span of at least ten years. These Are The Times was originally slated for the Return To Paradise CD

Well, at least we know Tommy wanted to live in the party fast lane. Even some of his close friends remarked "Tommy didn't just burn the candle at both ends, he threw it in the fire". His party and drug habit had to have a negative effect on the workings of the band and how the members interacted. Dennis frowned upon drug use by the time TS joined the band. I'm not sure how John's drinking affected the band during their hay day. This is why I don't believe the "Dennis was the problem and the only problem" theory.

Im really enjoying the break from sticking up for Dennis, Its nice to see solid conversation about what I have been saying fir 12 years, The only goofy post comes from our friend Yogi but that's what we expect from a Texan. Just kidding of course, Ash made a great point and the rest of the posts I agree with 100 percent,

[froy]

Well Chuck has done a 180 since the interview where he wanted to see a reunion since none of them were getting any younger.

My take on it is this:

Tommy, Chuck, JY, and John just wanted to drink/do cocaine/have gay sex/have straight sex all the time. Denins had a work ethic and probably tried to instill a work ethic in the other four guys, and that's why they hate him so much. They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Don't try to use Cyclorama to prove me wrong. Those songs were written over the span of at least ten years. These Are The Times was originally slated for the Return To Paradise CD

Well, at least we know Tommy wanted to live in the party fast lane. Even some of his close friends remarked "Tommy didn't just burn the candle at both ends, he threw it in the fire". His party and drug habit had to have a negative effect on the workings of the band and how the members interacted. Dennis frowned upon drug use by the time TS joined the band. I'm not sure how John's drinking affected the band during their hay day. This is why I don't believe the "Dennis was the problem and the only problem" theory.

Im really enjoying the break from sticking up for Dennis, Its nice to see solid conversation about what I have been saying fir 12 years, The only goofy post comes from our friend Yogi but that's what we expect from a Texan. Just kidding of course, Ash made a great point and the rest of the posts I agree with 100 percent,

[froy]

Well Chuck has done a 180 since the interview where he wanted to see a reunion since none of them were getting any younger.

My take on it is this:

Tommy, Chuck, JY, and John just wanted to drink/do cocaine/have gay sex/have straight sex all the time. Denins had a work ethic and probably tried to instill a work ethic in the other four guys, and that's why they hate him so much. They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Don't try to use Cyclorama to prove me wrong. Those songs were written over the span of at least ten years. These Are The Times was originally slated for the Return To Paradise CD

Well, at least we know Tommy wanted to live in the party fast lane. Even some of his close friends remarked "Tommy didn't just burn the candle at both ends, he threw it in the fire". His party and drug habit had to have a negative effect on the workings of the band and how the members interacted. Dennis frowned upon drug use by the time TS joined the band. I'm not sure how John's drinking affected the band during their hay day. This is why I don't believe the "Dennis was the problem and the only problem" theory.

Im really enjoying the break from sticking up for Dennis, Its nice to see solid conversation about what I have been saying for 12 years, The only goofy post comes from our friend Yogi but that's what we expect from a Texan. Just kidding of course, Ash made a great point and the rest of the posts I agree with 100 percent,

[pinkfloyd1973]

They would have gotten nowhere without Dennis...he was the only one in the group with a sound mind and a bit of sense. Notice how quickly their creative effort collapsed after Dennis was ousted.

Dennis had a nervous breakdown before "The Grand Illusion"

[Blue Falcon]

It's only a matter of time before Comrade JY and Comrade Tommy whitewash DDY's entire existence away. They will pull a Sharon Young and have DDY's face and credits erased from all their previous albums. Their new album liner notes will look like this:

James "JY" Young: hard rock guitars, vocals, hard rock songs
Tommy Shaw: melodic guitars, vocals, melodic/hard rock songs
Chuck P: bass
John P: drums
That Other Guy: Broadway-like showtunes, overwrought vocals, responsible for "Babe" and "Kilroy"

One day they will Photoshop his face off Pieces Of Eight and replace it with one of those Easter Island statues.

[Toph]

What is interesting here is this article mentions four songs

- Come Sail Away
- Renegade
- Don't Let It End
- Show Me The Way

Are you going to hear those songs if you go see Styx? You'll hear 2 out of the 4, and one sung by a guy that sounds nothing like the guy who sang it to begin with. Where is the only place you can hear all 4 songs? Where is the only place you can hear the entire Styx catalog? That is right - go see Dennis DeYoung. That should be Dennis's spin right there - I may not have the trademark, but with me you get the real deal and ALL the songs you want to hear.

[Christopher]

I'm failing to see where Chuck said anything negative about Dennis in that article.
I agree that Chuck should be thankful that Dennis made him rich, but where in that article did he say anything bad about Dennis???

The new company line about "how difficult Dennis is to work with" and how a reunion won't happen - interesting that 6 months ago or so he discussed how he really hoped that a reunion could happen "before anyone else passes". I guess Pinocchio and Brusco threatened to cut him off if he didn't change his tune.

The erasure of all things Dennis from the website is also completely absurd.

Hoping/wishing a reunion could happen...and understanding it's not going to happen, are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, I think most of us here share that sentiment.

[cittadeeno23]

In all honesty, and I'm not trying to upset the 5 or 6 people on this board who prefer the current version of Styx over the real Classic Styx, but Dennis' show at this point is so much more Styx-like than the Tommy/JY band's show.

I mean really. Gowan sounds NOTHING like Styx and the fact that he gets to go around and say he is in Styx and Dennis Cannot is just a friggin joke.
I love Tommy, JY and Dennis together, but at this point, and with all that those guys have said about Dennis, I'm happy with Dennis' new band and am starting not to care if they ever reunite. I just wish Dennis had the Styx name and the other guys didn't. It's very misleading to the common clueless boneheaded fan who goes to see Styx open up for Yes or REO or whoever the Fu*k they are opening up for these days! They think they are seeing Styx but they have no idea what Styx really is/was. Seriously. If you are in your 40's, and remember Styx fondly, but have never seen them Live, and the first time you see them in concert you get to hear Gowan sing Come Sail Away??? I mean Come on! That's not Styx. It's just not. And I don't care what anybody says.

Anyway, I'm done taking sides. For the record, my side is this. I love the Dennis/Tommy/JY/Chuck/John version of Styx. That's Styx.
For those of you who like the new version I'm reasonably sure it's because you have never seen the real Styx live. But if you like the band the way it is good for you. Enjoy. I'm happy Tommy, JY and Chuck can continue doing what they love. But after seeing both bands the way they are now I have concluded that the Dennis version is way more Styx-like than the Gowan version. In fact it's not even close.
Maybe I would feel differently if I were a "new" Styx fan. But I doubt it. I discovered these guys in the Wooden Nickel Years before anyone on the West Coast had a clue who they were. And Dennis was the core reason I was drawn to them.

[Baron Von Bielski]

In all honesty, and I'm not trying to upset the 5 or 6 people on this board who prefer the current version of Styx over the real Classic Styx, but Dennis' show at this point is so much more Styx-like than the Tommy/JY band's show.

I mean really. Gowan sounds NOTHING like Styx and the fact that he gets to go around and say he is in Styx and Dennis Cannot is just a friggin joke.
I love Tommy, JY and Dennis together, but at this point, and with all that those guys have said about Dennis, I'm happy with Dennis' new band and am starting not to care if they ever reunite. I just wish Dennis had the Styx name and the other guys didn't. It's very misleading to the common clueless boneheaded fan who goes to see Styx open up for Yes or REO or whoever the Fu*k they are opening up for these days! They think they are seeing Styx but they have no idea what Styx really is/was. Seriously. If you are in your 40's, and remember Styx fondly, but have never seen them Live, and the first time you see them in concert you get to hear Gowan sing Come Sail Away??? I mean Come on! That's not Styx. It's just not. And I don't care what anybody says.

Anyway, I'm done taking sides. For the record, my side is this. I love the Dennis/Tommy/JY/Chuck/John version of Styx. That's Styx.
For those of you who like the new version I'm reasonably sure it's because you have never seen the real Styx live. But if you like the band the way it is good for you. Enjoy. I'm happy Tommy, JY and Chuck can continue doing what they love. But after seeing both bands the way they are now I have concluded that the Dennis version is way more Styx-like than the Gowan version. In fact it's not even close.
Maybe I would feel differently if I were a "new" Styx fan. But I doubt it. I discovered these guys in the Wooden Nickel Years before anyone on the West Coast had a clue who they were. And Dennis was the core reason I was drawn to them.

I've always thought that. Anyone who prefers the current version of Styx wasn't a fan of them before the lineup change... plain and simple. If they say they were... they're lying.

[Everett]

In all honesty, and I'm not trying to upset the 5 or 6 people on this board who prefer the current version of Styx over the real Classic Styx, but Dennis' show at this point is so much more Styx-like than the Tommy/JY band's show.

I mean really. Gowan sounds NOTHING like Styx and the fact that he gets to go around and say he is in Styx and Dennis Cannot is just a friggin joke.
I love Tommy, JY and Dennis together, but at this point, and with all that those guys have said about Dennis, I'm happy with Dennis' new band and am starting not to care if they ever reunite. I just wish Dennis had the Styx name and the other guys didn't. It's very misleading to the common clueless boneheaded fan who goes to see Styx open up for Yes or REO or whoever the Fu*k they are opening up for these days! They think they are seeing Styx but they have no idea what Styx really is/was. Seriously. If you are in your 40's, and remember Styx fondly, but have never seen them Live, and the first time you see them in concert you get to hear Gowan sing Come Sail Away??? I mean Come on! That's not Styx. It's just not. And I don't care what anybody says.

Anyway, I'm done taking sides. For the record, my side is this. I love the Dennis/Tommy/JY/Chuck/John version of Styx. That's Styx.
For those of you who like the new version I'm reasonably sure it's because you have never seen the real Styx live. But if you like the band the way it is good for you. Enjoy. I'm happy Tommy, JY and Chuck can continue doing what they love. But after seeing both bands the way they are now I have concluded that the Dennis version is way more Styx-like than the Gowan version. In fact it's not even close.
Maybe I would feel differently if I were a "new" Styx fan. But I doubt it. I discovered these guys in the Wooden Nickel Years before anyone on the West Coast had a clue who they were. And Dennis was the core reason I was drawn to them.

I've always thought that. Anyone who prefers the current version of Styx wasn't a fan of them before the lineup change... plain and simple. If they say they were... they're lying.

It is possible to be a fan of the past and present. Alot of people are. Like me.

[cittadeeno23]

That's good you can like both versions of the band. There is nothing wrong with that. I still love Chuck, JY and Tommy.
But they are 2 completly different bands.
And I'm guessing you have never seen the real Styx in concert and that you discovered Styx well after they broke up.
You probably would have liked seeing them early on. They rocked pretty hard in the early days. Especially when JC was in the band.

[Mr JY Roboto]

Clearly there is a new company line that is out there now about Dennis...

Chuck is a backstabber...

http://www.accessatlanta.com/AccessAtla ... 12336.html

Give it a rest. Majority rules...Tommy, JY and Chuck decided to move on without him. They did it legally. It's time to move on Goph.

[Boomchild]

Clearly there is a new company line that is out there now about Dennis...

Chuck is a backstabber...

http://www.accessatlanta.com/AccessAtla ... 12336.html

Give it a rest. Majority rules...Tommy, JY and Chuck decided to move on without him. They did it legally. It's time to move on Goph.

Legally, that's a laugh. If they did everything legally then Dennis would have had no reason to sue their asses. They may have had the votes to fire him but they not only did that but violated terms of the contract they had together. They only did it "legally" because Dennis forced them to by taking them to court.