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[ChicagoSTYX]

Styx will soon begin to work on their new studio album, the first to feature new bassist Ricky Phillips. A release is expected in the first half of 2007.

[rajah2165]

Styx will soon begin to work on their new studio album, the first to feature new bassist Ricky Phillips. A release is expected in the first half of 2007.

Yawn....

[NealIsGod]

Wow, no excitement for a new Styx CD, huh? Weird...

No need to reply, froy. We know what you're gonna say...

[yogi]

I am pretty happy to hear we will get some new material from 'The New Styx'.

I am now also hoping that Dennis will release something while I still have teeth left in my mouth.

[Big J]

I for one, can't wait. I love Cyclorama and hopefully the new stuff will be comparable.

[froy]

I for one, can't wait. I love Cyclorama and hopefully the new stuff will be comparable.

You forget Glen is gone
Now its just Tom and Jim and the banjo
Not much to get excited about.,

Hello Mr Johnson
Thats right up there with Castle Walls

[StyxCollector]

Styx will soon begin to work on their new studio album, the first to feature new bassist Ricky Phillips. A release is expected in the first half of 2007.

So BBT doesn't count with Ricky, eh? Technically it's #2.

Cyclorama isn't aging well with me, so while I'm certainly curious to hear it, I don't expect the second coming of GI or Po8. I don't even expect something close. I'd prefer Ambition II to Cyclorama II if you catch my drift ...

[froy]

Cyclorama isn't aging well with me, so while I'm certainly curious to hear it, I don't expect the second coming of GI or Po8. I don't even expect something close. I'd prefer Ambition II to Cyclorama II if you catch my drift ..

Sure I catch your drift Its a waste of time
But thats Tommy Shaw and James Young there just wasting valuable time.
A new dvd a new cd who really cares a few thousand people.
Im glad there happy pissing off all there fans thats a smart thing to do.
STYX and JRNY are no more.

[ek88]

I liked Cyclorama and I look forward to some new music from the band. Didn't much care for BBT.

[squirt1]

Has Shaw ever noticed that it has all been downhill w/o Dennis? What is it with guitar players who think that they are the band????????

[froy]

Has Shaw ever noticed that it has all been downhill w/o Dennis? What is it with guitar players who think that they are the band????????

He caresless all he wants is money
He is a back stabber.

[StyxCollector]

Has Shaw ever noticed that it has all been downhill w/o Dennis? What is it with guitar players who think that they are the band????????

I disagree that he thinks he is the band. Tommy is not much of a band leader, but a good team player. I think he enjoys the limelight while performing, but shuns it elsewhere. Tommy is looking out for #1, and I can't fault him for that, but in doing so he seems to have burned some folks along the way. Uncle Ted I'm pretty sure isn't happy with him after the latest DY debacle.

I think JY thinks he may be the band (and maybe legal papers say so ... we can only speculate), but I think TS has done worthwhile work w/o Dennis.

[gr8dane]

Has Shaw ever noticed that it has all been downhill w/o Dennis? What is it with guitar players who think that they are the band????????

I think it was downhill with Dennis in the band,after PO8.

[squirt1]

You know ,I don't know how old many of you are, but I remember Styx when they were fairly big in the 70's-80's. If you went to a concert 20,000 would be there. How many is the avg now, any hits, any real writing going on? Same for Journey sans Perry,except they draw more because of their huge catalog and with Soto ???? but a definite improvement. I would pay to go see Journey again after seeing them this July. Styx has been off my agenda for yrs. I will always think that w/o the lead singer,few bands survive the $$$ loss of what people will buy cd or concert wise, nevertheless having singers that were huge writers. Journey so lucked out with Soto and their big draw, Def Lepard. I would go again. DL is incredible & Soto is that good, but would pay anything to see Perry again.

[Jodes]

Allan, do you have proof that Ted is pissed with Tommy?

Don't forget, a lot happened music wise between the release of Don't Tread and the 3rd Damn Yankees project. Like the joke of them being on "Sony" records..

[squirt1]

gr8dane- Whatever POB is, Styx somewhere in the last 8ys crashed into oblivion. It they reformed as in the 80's , I would be ther with wallet open, because that was their best era, their best writing & hits. That is what people will buy and pay to see.

[I Stumble In]

Uncle Ted I'm pretty sure isn't happy with him after the latest DY debacle.

This can't be farther from the truth. There is absolutely no bad blood between Ted and Tommy. If yo remember - Ted was even on 7DS for Tommy - and that was after the problems with the third DY album. Tommy was wrapped up contractually with Styx - Ted and Jack knew it. Anyone who knows Ted will tell you that he is EXTREMELY smart when looking at music as a business - and can squeeze every dime out of it (he learned from being burned in the past). Why do you think that he did Supergroup in VH1? To keep his name out there and they paid him pretty well to do it. He looks at his Damn Yankees bandmates the same way - if they can make more money doing something else - he has no problem with it.
This isn't speculation - it's fact - I know the man pretty well. As for DY - well maybe at the end of 07 - but who knows? The stars must align.

[yogi]

Cyclorama has aged rather well with me. Last Saturday morning while driving to work I listened to the entire CD again.

I REALLY REALLY like the CD.

One of the few songs I didnt like at all when the CD came out was Yes I Can. Now it is one of my favorites. It kind of grew on me. To me, its alot like Boat On the River in every aspect including how at first I thought to myself 'what is this shi t'.

Its a ROCK solid effort from 'The New Styx'!!

[AOR rules]

I do realise that the new Styx record will not be as good as their classic records but how tiny little record-collections we would have if we bought from all bands we like only their classic records which means maximum 5 records per band (OK, in Styx´s case there is 6 of them if you count studio albums from Equinox to Paradise Theatre). I think there is always room for another not-classic-but-good Styx album.

[ChicagoSTYX]

I do realise that the new Styx record will not be as good as their classic records but how tiny little record-collections we would have if we bought from all bands we like only their classic records which means maximum 5 records per band (OK, in Styx´s case there is 6 of them if you count studio albums from Equinox to Paradise Theatre). I think there is always room for another not-classic-but-good Styx album.

I agree! I hope it’s nothing like Kilroy or Cornerstone and to some degree Paradise Theater. All three of those albums had a few DDY penned lame songs on them. I like both of the new songs that I’ve heard so far. Although I really don’t expect either on of them to be on the new CD. They will be on the CYO show coming out in November. Mr. Johnson is not a song. It was only a warm up while they were in the studio in Chicago. Todd said there are no plans to release it.

[gr8dane]

gr8dane- Whatever POB is, Styx somewhere in the last 8ys crashed into oblivion. It they reformed as in the 80's , I would be ther with wallet open, because that was their best era, their best writing & hits. That is what people will buy and pay to see.

Pieces of 8,matey.I don't know how many bands you can mention ,that have the same members and who have put out 15 eqally amazing cdsover 30 years?
Frankly I am content with them being only as famous as they are now.That way I can see Styx with a thousand other fans instead of in the nosebleeds somewhere.
I saw them on the Kilroy tour.Sure there were lots of people and also a lot of screaming ,for the sake of screaming.
Scuse me.This answer here is a 2 parter.Also a response to your post about their attendance in their glory years.

[StyxCollector]

Uncle Ted I'm pretty sure isn't happy with him after the latest DY debacle.

This can't be farther from the truth. There is absolutely no bad blood between Ted and Tommy. If yo remember - Ted was even on 7DS for Tommy - and that was after the problems with the third DY album. Tommy was wrapped up contractually with Styx - Ted and Jack knew it. Anyone who knows Ted will tell you that he is EXTREMELY smart when looking at music as a business - and can squeeze every dime out of it (he learned from being burned in the past). Why do you think that he did Supergroup in VH1? To keep his name out there and they paid him pretty well to do it. He looks at his Damn Yankees bandmates the same way - if they can make more money doing something else - he has no problem with it.
This isn't speculation - it's fact - I know the man pretty well. As for DY - well maybe at the end of 07 - but who knows? The stars must align.

I heard through pretty reliable sources Ted was none too happy with TS around that 1999 debacle. Tommy was waffling on his commitment to DY (remember that it was first announced w/o Tommy and Michael; it was Jack, Ted, Damon, and Kelly) and finally committed to Styx full time. We're not talking "let's jam and see what happens" - they did an album, promo photo shoot (remember those postings on the Styx site?) ... and then bam, no DY. If you truly believe it's differences in how the album was recorded, it's naive.

By not happy, I meant the business thing. I don't think Ted gives two shits about the other stuff. Are any of these guys truly best buds? Maybe Jack and Tommy. Like you I can see Ted absolutely working with Tommy again if the money and situation is right. He knows that DY could do OK. So I 100% agree with you on Ted - he's shrewd and extremely intelligent. He'll do what he feels is right.

[StyxCollector]

I agree! I hope it’s nothing like Kilroy or Cornerstone and to some degree Paradise Theater. All three of those albums had a few DDY penned lame songs on them. I like both of the new songs that I’ve heard so far. Although I really don’t expect either on of them to be on the new CD. They will be on the CYO show coming out in November. Mr. Johnson is not a song. It was only a warm up while they were in the studio in Chicago. Todd said there are no plans to release it.

So let me get this straight: "She Cares" isn't lame but "The Best of Times" is? "Boat on the River" vs. "Babe"? It wasn't DDY only writing those kinds of softer/lighter/different songs post-GI. Hell, "Sing for the Day" ain't exactly AC/DC!

[bugsymalone]

Chicago wrote:
I agree! I hope it’s nothing like Kilroy or Cornerstone and to some degree Paradise Theater. All three of those albums had a few DDY penned lame songs on them. I like both of the new songs that I’ve heard so far. Although I really don’t expect either on of them to be on the new CD. They will be on the CYO show coming out in November. Mr. Johnson is not a song. It was only a warm up while they were in the studio in Chicago. Todd said there are no plans to release it.


Styxcollector wrote:
So let me get this straight: "She Cares" isn't lame but "The Best of Times" is? "Boat on the River" vs. "Babe"? It wasn't DDY only writing those kinds of softer/lighter/different songs post-GI. Hell, "Sing for the Day" ain't exactly AC/DC!

Lame. Or not lame. All in the perspective on things. And HEY! I LOVE "Sing for the Day!"

Bugsy

[StyxCollector]

Lame. Or not lame. All in the perspective on things. And HEY! I LOVE "Sing for the Day!"

Bugsy

That was my whole point. I've never liked "She Cares" but I genuinely don't like the song. The other songs (BOTR, SftD) are fine. My point was to say DDY was the only one responsible for writing "lame" songs is absurd.

[shaka]

Uncle Ted I'm pretty sure isn't happy with him after the latest DY debacle.

This can't be farther from the truth. There is absolutely no bad blood between Ted and Tommy. If yo remember - Ted was even on 7DS for Tommy - and that was after the problems with the third DY album. Tommy was wrapped up contractually with Styx - Ted and Jack knew it. Anyone who knows Ted will tell you that he is EXTREMELY smart when looking at music as a business - and can squeeze every dime out of it (he learned from being burned in the past). Why do you think that he did Supergroup in VH1? To keep his name out there and they paid him pretty well to do it. He looks at his Damn Yankees bandmates the same way - if they can make more money doing something else - he has no problem with it.
This isn't speculation - it's fact - I know the man pretty well. As for DY - well maybe at the end of 07 - but who knows? The stars must align.

I heard through pretty reliable sources Ted was none too happy with TS around that 1999 debacle. Tommy was waffling on his commitment to DY (remember that it was first announced w/o Tommy and Michael; it was Jack, Ted, Damon, and Kelly) and finally committed to Styx full time. We're not talking "let's jam and see what happens" - they did an album, promo photo shoot (remember those postings on the Styx site?) ... and then bam, no DY. If you truly believe it's differences in how the album was recorded, it's naive.

By not happy, I meant the business thing. I don't think Ted gives two shits about the other stuff. Are any of these guys truly best buds? Maybe Jack and Tommy. Like you I can see Ted absolutely working with Tommy again if the money and situation is right. He knows that DY could do OK. So I 100% agree with you on Ted - he's shrewd and extremely intelligent. He'll do what he feels is right.

I'd just like to add that I've read and heard Ted on tv talking about his, "blood brother" Tommy Shaw. Jack and Tommy even visited Ted on the set of Supergroup. They also played together as Damn Yankees a couple of years ago at Alice Coopers Christmas Pudding benefit.

I'd wager Tommy and Ted still get along outside of their business relationship which is interesting considering Tommy's quasi-vegetarian status.

Eric

[StyxCollector]

I'd just like to add that I've read and heard Ted on tv talking about his, "blood brother" Tommy Shaw. Jack and Tommy even visited Ted on the set of Supergroup. They also played together as Damn Yankees a couple of years ago at Alice Coopers Christmas Pudding benefit.

I'd wager Tommy and Ted still get along outside of their business relationship which is interesting considering Tommy's quasi-vegetarian status.

Eric

It's all about convenience. 1999 was 1999. They can clearly get beyond it.

I just don't think Ted trusts Tommy in a business capacity more than a hill of beans.

[froy]

I just don't think Ted trusts Tommy in a business capacity more than a hill of beans.

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Can ya blame him?

[Rockwriter]

I'd just like to add that I've read and heard Ted on tv talking about his, "blood brother" Tommy Shaw. Jack and Tommy even visited Ted on the set of Supergroup. They also played together as Damn Yankees a couple of years ago at Alice Coopers Christmas Pudding benefit.

I'd wager Tommy and Ted still get along outside of their business relationship which is interesting considering Tommy's quasi-vegetarian status.

Eric

It's all about convenience. 1999 was 1999. They can clearly get beyond it.

I just don't think Ted trusts Tommy in a business capacity more than a hill of beans.

I don't remember the year, but I think it was right around that time or after that Ted and Dennis appeared on VH1's THE LIST together for the show about Best Rock Group. Someone in Dennis' camp was contacted and he presented it to Dennis, and he cautioned him, "But it's with Ted." Dennis said, "I have no problem with Ted." If you recall, Ted had said some really negative things about Dennis and Styx in 1991, saying that Dennis sang like a "pussy" and that he [Ted] could have been in Styx if he had cut his dick off, things of that nature. But Dennis felt very strongly that Ted only knew one side of whatever had happened between Dennis and Tommy, so he went ahead and did the show.
From someone who was there, I heard that they talked in the green room before the show and that they came to somewhat of a realization that they had had similar experiences with Tommy to an extent - in 1990 he was talking to Styx about a reunion, then abruptly went with Damn Yankees, and they felt that he had been stringing them along. (JY, incidentally, was angrier than anyone else about that). In 1999 Tommy had made a commitment to Damn Yankees, to put aside the time to do it, but when push came to shove he did not honor that commitment, and again some of them felt that he had been stringing them along to see which one was going to work out better. If the New Styx had failed miserably, there would have been a Damn Yankees record more than likely, but Tommy went with his best bet. I can't fault him for that, but it's fairly common knowledge through the business that Ted was angry and disappointed by that. Ted is a guy who honors what he says he will do and expects it from others as well. So he and Dennis wound up realizing they had more in common than they might have thought. If you watch the show they were on, they are toasting each other with their water glasses and so on, and at the end they kinda danced. It was actually pretty funny.
Does that mean that Tommy and Ted are no longer friends? Of course not. But Ted has a more realistic view of where he stands now, perhaps. His friendship with Tommy is more a business arrangement anyway, and of course he's not going to say anything negative in public about him when the possibility of working together again in the future exists. Why would he shoot himself in the foot like that? Ted is smarter than that.
I hope all is well.


Sterling

[Jodes]

But Sterling, what about the whole "I need six months to shoot the Boomchild video" that Dennis has told about that Tommy was ready, but Dennis was commited to MCA for Boomchild..

You make it sound like it's all Tommy's fault that Styx didn't get back together in the early 90's..