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Heard Big Bang.............

Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:02 pm

I have a few friends that are dj's in the area that received the cd recently.

I didn't care for most of the songs to begin with. I gave the songs a few listens and in my opinion - ACK!!

I didn't think Blue Collar Man 2004 sounded "bluesy", it was so sloooooow, painfully sloooooooooooow.

The worse song and I hope that I never hear it again in my life was "It Don't Make Sense (You Can't Make Peace) sung by JY. Nothing against Mr. Dixon and his music, it's JY singing this, terrible!!!

To each his/her own......................
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Re: Heard Big Bang.............

Postby froy » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:05 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I have a few friends that are dj's in the area that received the cd recently.

I didn't care for most of the songs to begin with. I gave the songs a few listens and in my opinion - ACK!!

I didn't think Blue Collar Man 2004 sounded "bluesy", it was so sloooooow, painfully sloooooooooooow.

The worse song and I hope that I never hear it again in my life was "It Don't Make Sense (You Can't Make Peace) sung by JY. Nothing against Mr. Dixon and his music, it's JY singing this, terrible!!!

To each his/her own......................



Suite send me the cd I want to review it
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Re: Heard Big Bang.............

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:20 pm

froy wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I have a few friends that are dj's in the area that received the cd recently.

I didn't care for most of the songs to begin with. I gave the songs a few listens and in my opinion - ACK!!

I didn't think Blue Collar Man 2004 sounded "bluesy", it was so sloooooow, painfully sloooooooooooow.

The worse song and I hope that I never hear it again in my life was "It Don't Make Sense (You Can't Make Peace) sung by JY. Nothing against Mr. Dixon and his music, it's JY singing this, terrible!!!

To each his/her own......................


Suite send me the cd I want to review it


Oh, so that's what you call it? A 'review'? LOL.

Funny how those who despise something so much not only listen to what they hate, but SEEK IT OUT!

You could take a hammer and nail and try to pound it in your ear...Write a review about that experience and I'm certain it would use the same handful of words, all of them spelled and arranged in exactly the same way.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:36 pm

Disregard anything heard....the CD was gievn a fresh mastering only last Saturday.
I've had a copy of the pre-master since Friday and await this new master to make proper judgement.

But you know what? I like what I've heard....definitely more life than some other covers albums I've heard.

Review and soundbytes in due course....when I'm given the ok.
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Postby styxfanNH » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:55 pm

yes its true, Monker.

Should it be any surprise that those that didn't know or like the songs before would like them just because Styx did it? Hell No. And it is absolutely ridiculous for Froy to want a copy of a cd to validate a review he wrote months ago.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:07 pm

Monker, This wasn't a review it was just my opinion of what I heard. If I were to do a review, I would've made remarks about each song and what I thought.

Again, I didn't care for most of the songs chosen in the first place. I don't care who sings them.

Andrew, did you really like JY singing "It Don't Make Sense (You Can't Make Peace)?

Yeah, I really tried to seek this out, just like Cyclo.... I guess you didn't hear the story about that - LOL Anyone that grew up with me or knows me, knows that I'm a huge Classic Styx fan. I talk about Dennis and Styx every episode of my little cable show - LOL

Everyone's going to have their own opinions about this cd, I just posted what I thought of 2 songs. Sheesh
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Re: Heard Big Bang.............

Postby Ash » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:18 pm

froy wrote:Suite send me the cd I want to review it


Froy, if you want to review this CD - get a copy from the record company or go out and buy it just like every other reviewer does. Just because you want an excuse to slam something doesn't mean that you should be able to do so via theivery.

Don't be a jerk, Froy - seek legitimate means - otherwise your opinion is worthless.
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Re: Heard Big Bang.............

Postby froy » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:29 pm

Ash wrote:
froy wrote:Suite send me the cd I want to review it


Froy, if you want to review this CD - get a copy from the record company or go out and buy it just like every other reviewer does. Just because you want an excuse to slam something doesn't mean that you should be able to do so via theivery.

Don't be a jerk, Froy - seek legitimate means - otherwise your opinion is worthless.


You guys are a joke
I would not pay for anything when it comes to the current Styx band
Are you kidding me pay for a cover cd not a chance its worthless
Your going to get my review good or bad , when I post it either read it or look the other way ,. :lol:
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:30 pm

Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music. Maybe he can put his personal feelings aside and give an honest review. That does not mean he will like it but at least it will be done with an open mind. If I remember correctly Froy did say that he liked a couple of songs from Cyclorama. :D
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Postby froy » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:33 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music. Maybe he can put his personal feelings aside and give an honest review. That does not mean he will like it but at least it will be done with an open mind. If I remember correctly Froy did say that he liked a couple of songs from Cyclorama. :D


Thats exactly what i will do
If I wanted to blast it and lie about it I would just make up a review
It will be a fair review good or bad
Im sure there has to be a few good songs lets see what happens.
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Postby Zan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:46 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Again, I didn't care for most of the songs chosen in the first place. I don't care who sings them.




I haven't heard it, but by the list, I do agree with you about the song choices, Suite. I'm sure I'll like them a little more hearing Styx do them, however...just because I love Styx. I have no doubt they'll "improve" on some things...But yeah - I doubt I would have chosen any of those songs personally. I guess we'll see.

(I bet "Don't Need No Doctor" will kick ass, tho)
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Postby Monker » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:47 pm

Monker, This wasn't a review it was just my opinion of what I heard. If I were to do a review, I would've made remarks about each song and what I thought.


I didn't say YOU reviewed it. In fact, I don't think I said anything about you, or to you, at all.
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Postby kansas666 » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:53 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music. Maybe he can put his personal feelings aside and give an honest review. That does not mean he will like it but at least it will be done with an open mind. :D


Yeeaaah right :roll:
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Postby Zan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:56 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music. Maybe he can put his personal feelings aside and give an honest review. That does not mean he will like it but at least it will be done with an open mind. If I remember correctly Froy did say that he liked a couple of songs from Cyclorama. :D



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Postby bugsymalone » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:58 pm

Everyone's going to have their own opinions about this cd, I just posted what I thought of 2 songs. Sheesh


Suite, haven't you learned by now that the only opinions that count on this board are those of Monker and his fan following. At least in Monker's mind. Note, I am lumping "them" all together, just has Monker has done for you and I quote:


Funny how those who despise something so much not only listen to what they hate, but SEEK IT OUT!


Each and every person who posts here, no matter who/what they like regarding Styx and its various incarnations, has individual comments to bring to the table.

As to the covers. I will offer no opinion (repeat: OPINION) unless I hear it myself and that is highly unlikely. Then I guess I will become one of "those who despise something" should I give even a slightly negative opinion.

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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:13 pm

There are a few songs on Big Bang that I don’t see as fitting in with the Styx style. First off I’m not a fan of blues so that makes 3 songs right off the bat that I’m not sure of. The others are Summer In The City and I Can See For Miles. The songs that I think do fit in with Styx music are Wishing Well, Locomotive Breath, Salty Dog, Can’t Find My Way Home, I Don’t Need No Doctor, and Manic Depression. The ones that I feel could go either way are One Way Out and Find The Cost Of Freedom. I’ll have to wait and hear them to see if I am right. I wish Suite would have given a review of the CD. Does it sound like Styx to you Suite?
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Postby Monker » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:35 pm

Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music.


It is not 'music' to froy...It's a cause. Everything from his petition to get Dennis back in Styx to his boycott of the band...It is one action following another to put an end to this Styx and prop up Dennis in the process. If you think for one moment that he wants to review this CD to give a non-biased opinion, you are living in a fantasy.

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If I remember correctly Froy did say that he liked a couple of songs from Cyclorama.
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I'm not sure if he ever 'reviewed' it...The only song he wrote 'nice' remarks about was "One With Everything"...Everything else was part of his dillusion of Styx writing songs to insult Dennis...not from 'hearing' it on CD, but from reading the lyrics on the website and listening to the downloads.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:35 pm

Thanks Bugsy, I appreciate your words :lol:

I think I've been watching too much of American Idol - LOL

As the judges would say, they didn't make (most of) the songs "their own" - LOL

To me, a couple of the songs sounded too much like the originals, it didn't have that "Classic Styx sound".

Tommy's songs are okay, but then again, I always liked his singing. Don't care for the song choices, again. I guess you all know that by now - LOL
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:46 pm

Come on Suite…… no review? What order are the songs in? Who sings what? What is your favorite song? We know what you think the worst song is. How does it compare to Cyclorama as far as style and sound? Does it rock? Is it slow? What does the cover look like? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
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Postby Monker » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:47 pm

Suite, haven't you learned by now that the only opinions that count on this board are those of Monker and his fan following. At least in Monker's mind.


LOL! I don't know if I have any 'fans'. Well, except for myself. Oh, and maybe a few people on the Journey digest.

If I thought I had 'fans', I'd write a book and make some money off of my glorious fandom.

And, of course Suite's opinion matters. I never said or implied that it didn't. Does the fact that I IGNORED it diminish it's importance?

Also, the only opinion that REALLY counts on this forum is Andrew's - because it is HIS forum.

Note, I am lumping "them" all together, just has Monker has done for you and I quote:

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Funny how those who despise something so much not only listen to what they hate, but SEEK IT OUT!


Well, let me be more specific so the pooka's out there will be more satisfied:

Funny how FROY seeks out what he despises so he can write a review about something he HATES.

Is that specific enough?
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Postby froy » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:11 am

Monker wrote:
Maybe Froy will give Styx a fair shot this time and listen to the CD for what it is, music.


It is not 'music' to froy...It's a cause.


No its just an excuse to keep touring .
Very easy to see,



Everything from his petition to get Dennis back in Styx


Once again I know your slow but I did not start any petition.


to his boycott of the band...


Are you kidding millions have boycotted the band ,


It is one action following another to put an end to this Styx and prop up Dennis in the process.


Styx is putting an end to itself with terrible ideas one after the other
Dennis is propping himself up with great shows like the Lost Treasures shows he does not need any help.


If you think for one moment that he wants to review this CD to give a non-biased opinion, you are living in a fantasy.


Are you ever going to stop thinking for other people
You have no idea what my review is going to be.
I did say I liked One With Everything off Ramit
We shall see what comes from the Styx Cover CD,
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:33 am

>>It is not 'music' to froy...It's a cause.

> No its just an excuse to keep touring .
> Very easy to see,

Which means that to you it's not about the music.

Once again I know your slow but I did not start any petition.


correct, I doubt you would know how. But, you took it under your wing and promoted it on alt.music.journey, and where ever else, as if there were 10,000 people who would sign it and you alone could find them. How many did you get? Did you even reach 1000?

to his boycott of the band...

Are you kidding millions have boycotted the band ,


No, that is your dillusion. There are probably less then 1000 people who are actively 'boycotting' Styx.

Styx is putting an end to itself with terrible ideas one after the other


Styx is carrying on, dispite what you wish.

Dennis is propping himself up with great shows like the Lost Treasures shows he does not need any help.


Dennis is also carrying on...But, I wouldn't say he is propping himself up. Unless he uses a cane nowadays. It takes people like you to prop him up...YOU feel the need, I doubt that Dennis does.

Are you ever going to stop thinking for other people


Hmmm, if that is what you call it, then NO, I'm not.

You have no idea what my review is going to be.


Sure I do. You'll trash song after song saying that the original was better and Styx brought nothing new to the song, and then add that they would have never done this if Dennis was still in the band...go see Dennis and boycott this trash from Stynx. That's you, Froy. It's been you for seven years.

I did say I liked One With Everything off Ramit


Sure, after you trashed every song you heard. Did you ever even listen to the Cd, or has it ALWAYS been from the MP3's?
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Postby yogi » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:51 am

Suite,

I would sure like to know who sings lead on which songs. Is the CD dominated by Tommy, or do JY and Lawerence get their fair share of lead vocals????

Monker,

If I remember correctly Froy gave props to One With Everything he called it a gem. Indirectly I thought he gave props to These Are the Times stating something like when Dennis might of heard it way back when the song might of not of been as good. He also kind of gave indirect props to Fields Of The Brave saying this song should be sent????( somewhere) something about the soldiers fighting( honoring them).
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Postby froy » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:01 am

Monker wrote:
>>It is not 'music' to froy...It's a cause.

> No its just an excuse to keep touring .
> Very easy to see,

Which means that to you it's not about the music.


Exactly how can it be about the music there copying other people...



Styx is putting an end to itself with terrible ideas one after the other


Styx is carrying on, dispite what you wish.



Carrying on what other peoples music
Thats a winner ,


Are you ever going to stop thinking for other people


Hmmm, if that is what you call it, then NO, I'm not.


Then lets use my favorite line
Your an idiot,
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Postby Hippie » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:23 am

Froy Wrote
Exactly how can it be about the music there copying other people...


So what exactly are your thoughts on 10 on Broadway? Was DDY being non-musical or unoriginal on that CD? Just curious.
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Postby Monker » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:40 am

Then lets use my favorite line
Your an idiot,


Froy, I've never called anybody on this forum an idiot, even you. The truth is that I think most of the people on this forum are pretty dern smart.
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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:50 am

The truth is that I think most of the people on this forum are pretty dern smart.


:shock: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby froy » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:13 am

Monker wrote:
Then lets use my favorite line
Your an idiot,


Froy, I've never called anybody on this forum an idiot, even you. The truth is that I think most of the people on this forum are pretty dern smart.



Awe Poor Monker
No you have called me just about everything in the book
Stand Up and take it like a man
Thats if you are one.

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Postby ek88 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:22 am

Froy, did you just quote yourself twice in that last post???????? :wink:
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Postby gr8dane » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:21 am

yogi wrote:Suite,

I would sure like to know who sings lead on which songs. Is the CD dominated by Tommy, or do JY and Lawerence get their fair share of lead vocals????

Monker,

If I remember correctly Froy gave props to One With Everything he called it a gem. Indirectly I thought he gave props to These Are the Times stating something like when Dennis might of heard it way back when the song might of not of been as good. He also kind of gave indirect props to Fields Of The Brave saying this song should be sent????( somewhere) something about the soldiers fighting( honoring them).


Yes,I remember ,way back.Froy actually was very humble when he was caught off guard.It was very sweet.He had just a had a smoke he said, which was the cause for his 'error'.
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