Ten Songs in the Top 75! What does it mean?

[ChicagoSTYX]

Now that Styx has ten of the top 75 songs on the Media Base chart what will this do for the band? Will this create more interest in the band? Will David Letterman call? Will this kind of success continue? It looks like rock fans in general are very receptive to hearing songs they know and love redone by a band they grew up with. It sure seems to be radio friendly and radio safe! The next few months should be very interesting!

[swwskj]

The way the chart is so specific, I doubt it will translate into much of anything. If you look at the Top 100 charts, real charts where the movers and shakers are, Styx is nowhere to be found.

Having that many songs chart means about as much as ranking #78 on Amazon. How is this figured? How often is the chart compiled? What percentage of the public does this represent?

Charting on the media base chart for classic rock is the baseball equivalent of leading the league in doubles on natural grass during solar eclipses on thursdays. If you subdivide long enough, EVERYONE charts eventually.

Let's see how the album and singles do on the Billboard charts. At least they are more scientific in their approach and have a long track record to back up their findings. I don't really think that Styx will make much of an impact nationally unless they can crack the Pop 100 singles chart. Then maybe it will translate into radio play and rotation on VH1.

Scott

[styxfanNH]

At least to me...

It is pretty apparent that there is a movement within some music companies to bring back more traditional rock n roll. Many feel that HIp-Hop and Rap have removed the melodies and music from the music as well as made it much more rhythmic than melodic.

Also as we saw last year/summer with the touring schedule that the "Pop" acts of today really have no staying power and as soon as they stop producing albums they are gone and forgotten. For the long term health of the industry, there are concerns what will happen in ten years once todays teens have no music to purchase. God knows that they have enough other issues with the onset of technology.

The effort to bring back more traditional rock n roll really began about three years ago, when artists started doing these cover albums. The plan was/is simple bring back the older songs for us 40-50 somethings to buy, give exposure to the original artists and hopefully something could break into the main stream.

Now New Door/Universal has decided to make the big push. Signing artists/bands that are still around to tie in their new music with the back catalogs they own. When signing Styx, we all know there were already plans for an EP, but the labelwanted a full album and the cover album falls right into their plans of promoting not only the bands own music but tying in the music of other groups they most likely own.

Now that they are with a major label that has CASH to promote it correctly, this is the big push not only for Styx, but also to prove their point and make a name for themselves as a label. While it is true that only time will tell how well this album holds up, it is in the best interest of all parties that this album is successful. The songs are solid and sound great and with the music they chose to do, it will get airplay with it's success being judged on how well it holds up over time, not a day or two.

One thing is for sure, we will probably start seeing a lot of covers albums from bands as a gap measure between original music albums to keep the older bands relevant in the music industry and to wet the appetites of the fans.

[bugsymalone]

It looks like rock fans in general are very receptive to hearing songs they know and love redone by a band they grew up with.

Ok, what? This is not the band I loved in the 70's, early 80's. It is a band, I will grant you that. And they sound good on some of the songs on this CD, I will grant you that. But this isn't the Styx of the past.

I don't really think that Styx will make much of an impact nationally unless they can crack the Pop 100 singles chart. Then maybe it will translate into radio play and rotation on VH1.

I agree with this. And, let me say, to be fair, no way Dennis would ever make any impact nationally unless he also could chart successfully on Billboard.

Bugsy

[styxfanNH]

The way the chart is so specific, I doubt it will translate into much of anything. If you look at the Top 100 charts, real charts where the movers and shakers are, Styx is nowhere to be found.

Having that many songs chart means about as much as ranking #78 on Amazon. How is this figured? How often is the chart compiled? What percentage of the public does this represent?

Charting on the media base chart for classic rock is the baseball equivalent of leading the league in doubles on natural grass during solar eclipses on thursdays. If you subdivide long enough, EVERYONE charts eventually.

Let's see how the album and singles do on the Billboard charts. At least they are more scientific in their approach and have a long track record to back up their findings. I don't really think that Styx will make much of an impact nationally unless they can crack the Pop 100 singles chart. Then maybe it will translate into radio play and rotation on VH1.

Scott

Mediabase charts air play, thats it. It tells them the exposure they are getting at radio station. That's it. Amazon charts record sales and compares it to other records sales within the items they sell. That's it.

Still amazes me how many peeps want this album to fail and go out of their way to dismiss the music.

[sadie65]

The way the chart is so specific, I doubt it will translate into much of anything. If you look at the Top 100 charts, real charts where the movers and shakers are, Styx is nowhere to be found.

Having that many songs chart means about as much as ranking #78 on Amazon. How is this figured? How often is the chart compiled? What percentage of the public does this represent?

Charting on the media base chart for classic rock is the baseball equivalent of leading the league in doubles on natural grass during solar eclipses on thursdays. If you subdivide long enough, EVERYONE charts eventually.

Let's see how the album and singles do on the Billboard charts. At least they are more scientific in their approach and have a long track record to back up their findings. I don't really think that Styx will make much of an impact nationally unless they can crack the Pop 100 singles chart. Then maybe it will translate into radio play and rotation on VH1.

Scott

Mediabase charts air play, thats it. It tells them the exposure they are getting at radio station. That's it. Amazon charts record sales and compares it to other records sales within the items they sell. That's it.

Still amazes me how many peeps want this album to fail and go out of their way to dismiss the music.

Radio and records chart the airplay as well, and is considered the industry standard. While it's great that several songs are on Media Base, the proof is whether or not they stay there on radio and records.

As for wanting the album to fail, I think that's inaccurate. The only one openly dismissing the album here is Froy. I don't think anyone else here is looking for it to fail. I don't think everyone is in agreement as to what constitutes success. I think it's successful because it's what the band wanted to do with the material it chose and it gor released nationally. that's half the battle.

That said, I hope it continues to chart for them.

[swwskj]

StyxfanNH,

Exactly where did I say I wanted the music to fail? And how exactly did I dismiss the music, don't recall even giving a review. Simply stated let's wait and see how it does and not rely on a Classic Rock heavy based chart.

Sheesh!

Scott

[Abitaman]

If you haven't listened to it, give it a chance. It's good, how good? I haven't decided yet. Need at least a couple weeks before I pass judgement (my grade) on anything. But it's out of the gate good-ERIC

[styxfanNH]

Scott,

Probably should have stopped the response to the quote before the last line.

But it is funny that when Styx makes some progress there is always a qualifier. Mediabase is one thing but there's Billboard, they are selling cd's but the album isn't triple platinum, it's a good song but it's not a number one song, on and on and on.

That is really what I am referring to. When I listen to a song, I listen to the song and judge it on it's merits, regardless of who the artist or band is. That's the way it should be. No song should be labeled great just because of the artist/band that sings it.

[swwskj]

NH,

No problem here. I knew what you were getting at, just wanted to make it clear that I'm not here hoping and praying that Styx falls flat on their faces. Hell, I was one of those who bought the album on the day it came out. So far the album sounds pretty good, but truthfully the songs they chose to cover weren't ones that I was that fond of to begin with.

If they do great with the album, more power to 'em. I'm going to see the free show they are doing here in Charlotte, but I hope they limit the cover stuff a bit. I know they are going to promote the album, but I'd actually rather hear Cyclorama and A Criminal mind (know that won't happen) than the BBT material.

It is kinda funny how sensitive the people around here get with every new release (or rerelease for that matter)

Scott

[boatontheriver70]

Which are the 10 songs?