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Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Toph » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:52 am

I like how Frontiers Records at least did a promo video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsLmDiz ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby masque » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:20 am

that looks like it is going to be real good........i like the way the video looks and based on what song clips they played it sounded like it has a nice mix.

looking forward to this one!
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Toph » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:32 am

Yes. Looks good.

The positives


1. sounds seem really strong
2. Track listing on CD - really from a "hits" perspective, these are the best known Styx songs - nothing missing here that would be deemed essential.

2 nits

1. RTP left off DVD
2. No new studio tracks
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby ztyxlynne » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:07 pm

Wow he is still sounding good. I do wish there would be a couple deep cut songs. It's and at least one new studio song. But this is looking to be a great package.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby yogi » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:50 am

Looks good, BUT for me this will be a no purchase. Why?

Couldn't Dennis have added a song or 3 or 4, from his usual hits repertoire for his hard core or even newer fans? What would that hurt?? Hell, who knows he could even somehow luck out and have one of these GREAT GREAT songs somehow hit.

Crossing The Rubicon is one of his or Styx's BEST EVER. He knows its good. That's what he originally was going to name the album. Shi t it's far better than good its GREAT. Why wouldn't he include it here? How about 'Save Me' another GREAT song. One Hundred Years From Now was a hit #1 single in Quebec. Why is that not included?? Goodbye To Roseland( absolutely AWESOME), Back To The World ( important song to many Vietnam veterans). Why not include some of these or some of his other solo or Styx led songs????? Remember' Love At First Sight'?? Their last top 40 hit?? Son of Edge songs that never saw the light of day?????? Private Jones???? Something completely new???????? Why the hell not??

All we are getting here is Caught In The Act or Return To Paradise being played by a different band and sung a much older looking lead singer.

DDY is a legend with an almost a once in a lifetime voice. Why wouldn't he add some newer BRILLIANT material or some deeper heavy cuts.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:46 am

yogi wrote:
DDY is a legend with an almost a once in a lifetime voice. Why wouldn't he add some newer BRILLIANT material or some deeper heavy cuts.



Yogi and others, DDY WILL be following this up with a new album of all original music!!!!!!
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby masque » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:25 pm

yogi wrote:Looks good, BUT for me this will be a no purchase. Why?

Couldn't Dennis have added a song or 3 or 4, from his usual hits repertoire for his hard core or even newer fans? What would that hurt?? Hell, who knows he could even somehow luck out and have one of these GREAT GREAT songs somehow hit.

Crossing The Rubicon is one of his or Styx's BEST EVER. He knows its good. That's what he originally was going to name the album. Shi t it's far better than good its GREAT. Why wouldn't he include it here? How about 'Save Me' another GREAT song. One Hundred Years From Now was a hit #1 single in Quebec. Why is that not included?? Goodbye To Roseland( absolutely AWESOME), Back To The World ( important song to many Vietnam veterans). Why not include some of these or some of his other solo or Styx led songs????? Remember' Love At First Sight'?? Their last top 40 hit?? Son of Edge songs that never saw the light of day?????? Private Jones???? Something completely new???????? Why the hell not??

All we are getting here is Caught In The Act or Return To Paradise being played by a different band and sung a much older looking lead singer.

DDY is a legend with an almost a once in a lifetime voice. Why wouldn't he add some newer BRILLIANT material or some deeper heavy cuts.


you sort of answered your own question……i think one of the whole points of releasing this dvd is to prove to styx fans that HIS band is 100% capable of giving styx fans a "true styx show". i think he wants everyone to see it…..and getting a dvd of this band out there helps that because this show will be on TV and maybe people who have not gone to see his new band will buy the dvd and be motivated to check them out.

in addition, i think it would make him seem like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth if he goes around touting how "he plays all the hits"….you get a "full styx show" with his current band now and then turn around and delete 3-4 of those very song in favor of songs that aren't a part of what him famous to begin with.

now don't get me wrong, i would love to hear black wall or goodbye to roseland…….but that would go against the very business model he has been publicly claiming is the reason you need to see his band.

basically he is motivated to show that THIS band can recreate the whole return to paradise/caught in the act versions of styx at a high and authentic level.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby masque » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:27 pm

Toph wrote:Yes. Looks good.

The positives


1. sounds seem really strong
2. Track listing on CD - really from a "hits" perspective, these are the best known Styx songs - nothing missing here that would be deemed essential.

2 nits

1. RTP left off DVD
2. No new studio tracks


damn!!!!! i guess it just went right by my attention that RTP was left off……thats too bad…..one of my faves and i for sure wish it was on there. I'm with you on that toph!
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Monker » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:54 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
yogi wrote:
DDY is a legend with an almost a once in a lifetime voice. Why wouldn't he add some newer BRILLIANT material or some deeper heavy cuts.



Yogi and others, DDY WILL be following this up with a new album of all original music!!!!!!


If that is true, it is extremely disappointing he did not include at least one new live version of one of those songs

Even with masque's points, which I agree with...He should have the freedom to include NEW songs. This DVD would have been a great way to promote it.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby yogi » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:02 am

I also agree with Masque. His points are excellent & valid.

You could still add some other more recent songs or deeper cuts to the mix. Hell put em on a separate CD or DVD. Rubicon, Roseland, One Hundred Years From Now & others are all brilliant and deserve to be heard in a different format with his new band behind these songs.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:51 am

Yogi and others, DDY WILL be following this up with a new album of all original music!!!!!!


If this is true I may have to adjust my thinking.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby masque » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:54 am

yogi wrote:I also agree with Masque. His points are excellent & valid.

You could still add some other more recent songs or deeper cuts to the mix. Hell put em on a separate CD or DVD. Rubicon, Roseland, One Hundred Years From Now & others are all brilliant and deserve to be heard in a different format with his new band behind these songs.


just including deeper or newer cuts as "bonus material" would work…….rush did that on one of their dvd releases a few years ago.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Toph » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:10 pm

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:Yes. Looks good.

The positives


1. sounds seem really strong
2. Track listing on CD - really from a "hits" perspective, these are the best known Styx songs - nothing missing here that would be deemed essential.

2 nits

1. RTP left off DVD
2. No new studio tracks


damn!!!!! i guess it just went right by my attention that RTP was left off……thats too bad…..one of my faves and i for sure wish it was on there. I'm with you on that toph!


Its on the CD, but not on the DVD, not sure why it was left off DVD. Is it a time issue?
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Toph » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:23 pm

yogi wrote:Looks good, BUT for me this will be a no purchase. Why?

Couldn't Dennis have added a song or 3 or 4, from his usual hits repertoire for his hard core or even newer fans? What would that hurt?? Hell, who knows he could even somehow luck out and have one of these GREAT GREAT songs somehow hit.

Crossing The Rubicon is one of his or Styx's BEST EVER. He knows its good. That's what he originally was going to name the album. Shi t it's far better than good its GREAT. Why wouldn't he include it here? How about 'Save Me' another GREAT song. One Hundred Years From Now was a hit #1 single in Quebec. Why is that not included?? Goodbye To Roseland( absolutely AWESOME), Back To The World ( important song to many Vietnam veterans). Why not include some of these or some of his other solo or Styx led songs????? Remember' Love At First Sight'?? Their last top 40 hit?? Son of Edge songs that never saw the light of day?????? Private Jones???? Something completely new???????? Why the hell not??

All we are getting here is Caught In The Act or Return To Paradise being played by a different band and sung a much older looking lead singer.

DDY is a legend with an almost a once in a lifetime voice. Why wouldn't he add some newer BRILLIANT material or some deeper heavy cuts.


Actually, devil's advocate. How it differs from RTP and CITA is that it has live version of EVERY MAJOR STYX well known song. Caught doesn't have Lady, Grand Illusion, SMTW (hadn't come out), Lorelei, and Desert Moon (Ok solo, but you get my drift). It also has recorded background vox and music of Roboto

RTP doesn't have Roboto or DLIE (or Desert Moon).

Obviously, later Styx live albums post Dennis are missing lots of his songs.

So, and yes, probably a stretch, you could make the claim that this is the most complete Styx (and related product) live album in terms of the content.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby ztyxlynne » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:19 pm

I will go ahead and buy it. But I think it would be great to see a show or a DVD of Dennis perform at least 1 song from every Styx album that he was on and his solo work. End it with Goodbye Roseland and I would be floored.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby brywool » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:42 am

Totally agree with Yogi. While this looks cool and I will definitely purchase it, is anyone else disappointed with the artwork for the cover? I saw it the other day on Facebook and just thought "That's it?". Seems incredibly understated and really quite dull. It also has more of a Broadway Marquee feel than ROCKSHOW, but hey, that's just me. After the horror of the Brave New World album cover and the coolness of 100 Years From Now, I kind of was hoping they'd nail it for this first kind of big release here for Dennis. Of course how important is album art these days? Such a lost artform. :(

On playing the hits, I have to agree with some here- this set to me really isn't worth it JUST because Roboto is live. I've heard it live for years. These things have been available to hard core fans of the material forever. Personally, I agree that throwing in some more solo stuff would've been great and such a great opportunity for Dennis to plug HIM AWAY FROM STYX. Dennis and Styx will most likely never reform so WHY promote STYX only? Promote the solo stuff too. For God's sake, he had a number 1 in Canada. (If it were Gowan, peopled be saying 'big deal') but Dennis should really use that. Is there ANY DOUBT that he can't do all the hits like Roboto, etc.? I mean, it's not that big of a deal, so that, to me, shouldn't really be the selling point. A bigger deal is that he could do those hits, his solo stuff, and some obscure Styx stuff. Basically, "I'm Dennis F-ing DeYoung and I've returned to kick your a$$". Works for me.

ChicagoStyx- what makes you say Dennis is doing a new album of original stuff? PLEASE DENNIS if you are reading this, stick with the formula used to come up with the 100 Years From Now album. Meaning "Make an album that's more in the Styx vein than the lighter stuff of your past solo work". Not to slam that stuff, but 100YFN was such a good step in the right direction.

Still, I'll get it and enjoy it. Sounds like a well recorded show and the band is good. Interesting to hear a 5 string bass being used on Come Sail Away in the clip.
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Postby masque » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:32 am

brywool....your idea is valid and would be great for the 37 of us that would be interested enough to buy a dvd with several obscure or lesser known solo songs.

im sure his "camp" thought about the math and felt that overall the best chance for success and sales was to give the people the material that made him famous.

and I understand that.......but for every person out there like us there are 100 that have no idea about anything other than his major hits and possibly desert moon (which 90% of all casual fans would think was a styx song and not a solo hit).

i know this guy that is all the time running across dvd's and compilation albums at places like wal-mart and he is constantly buying things like that and he is the kind of casual fan that if he picks the product up and doesnt recognize 90% of the song titles he will not buy it. I dont think he's alone in being that kind of consumer.

and because of that people like us suffer because we basically get the same core group of songs with a few exceptions on every live or compilation release.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:39 pm

masque wrote:
i know this guy that is all the time running across dvd's and compilation albums at places like wal-mart and he is constantly buying things like that and he is the kind of casual fan that if he picks the product up and doesnt recognize 90% of the song titles he will not buy it. I dont think he's alone in being that kind of consumer.


That's just it. This is what the general public or casual fan is like. I see or hear it from other customers all the time when I am out shopping for music. They look at a CD of an artist they know and if they don't recognize the songs on the CD they are not interested. At this point if DDY wants any chance of selling a release he has to stick with material the general public or casual fan knows. That's just the way it is at this point. The window of setting himself apart from Styx or breaking new ground as a solo artist is long gone. I also think that DDY would rather be remembered for what he created in Styx then what he created as a solo artist. He always has said that he never thought of himself as a solo artist.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby brywool » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:37 am

masque wrote:brywool....your idea is valid and would be great for the 37 of us that would be interested enough to buy a dvd with several obscure or lesser known solo songs.


NOT saying "don't play the hits". I'm saying play the hits and add a few obscures and his own. Maybe 5 more songs total to his set. Now that the other guys are singing tunes, it'd probably not be much of a stretch. The point is, by going out and doing STYX stuff, he is also promoting STYX in it's current and past incarnations.
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Postby yogi » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:16 am

That's EXACTLY what I am saying. You have nothing to lose, and some of his non hits are ABSOLUTELY great songs.

Why not add Rubicon, One Hundred Years From Now, Paradise, Love At First Sight(which was a hit), Goodbye To Roseland etc.. It seems like a no brainer to do this.
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:23 am

Although I will go ahead and buy this when it comes out, I do wish that it was of his acoustic concert instead :?
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:03 pm

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:Although I will go ahead and buy this when it comes out, I do wish that it was of his acoustic concert instead :?


There's an easy fix to that. Just turn the Bass all the way down on your TV or sound system and it will sound like they are playing acoustic instruments. 8)
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:54 am

Boomchild wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:Although I will go ahead and buy this when it comes out, I do wish that it was of his acoustic concert instead :?


There's an easy fix to that. Just turn the Bass all the way down on your TV or sound system and it will sound like they are playing acoustic instruments. 8)



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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby RumTumJM » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:05 am

Toph wrote:It also has recorded background vox and music of Roboto.


Just wondering, do you mean that the band used the vocals during the concert, or that the Caught In The Act CD was doctored up?
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby Boomchild » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:50 pm

RumTumJM wrote:
Toph wrote:It also has recorded background vox and music of Roboto.


Just wondering, do you mean that the band used the vocals during the concert, or that the Caught In The Act CD was doctored up?


Just about every live recording is "doctored up" when being released as a recording. Things are done to provide the best sound quality possible and in some cases over dubs are done to enhance areas where the live recording is lacking.
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Re: Promo Video for DDY Live CD/DVD/BLUE RAY

Postby masque » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:45 am

RumTumJM wrote:
Toph wrote:It also has recorded background vox and music of Roboto.


Just wondering, do you mean that the band used the vocals during the concert, or that the Caught In The Act CD was doctored up?



i think he meant the pre-recorded stuff for roboto.....not the rest of the show.
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