Dennis DeYoung, the new Liberace!

by **mcloud** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:49 pm

I recently saw Mr. I'm so ridiculously feeble that I can't take lights, sound, and apparently rock and roll anymore Deyoung's recent attempt to transform himself back into a musician by surrounding himself with dozens of real musicians, a symphony. This was a PBS special, and apparently there's a DVD for sale of this crap, but I was truly embarrased for Dennis. Mr. Roboto still sounds like dogcrap even with 60 people playing over it. It was a joke! He's not even ready for Atlantic City, yet, but it seems like DDY wants to be a lounge act playing big rooms. He sounded awful, singing out of key. And he looks like a 60 year old woman. Kind of reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire meets Liberace. Not a good look for him.

Having seen Styx a couple of years ago, I can say they definitely are better off without this "entertainer"

by **sadie65** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:10 pm

Wow. Don't hold back. Let us know what you really think :wink:

I think there are many here who disagree with your assessment, but hey you're entitled. I don't think that the band is doing any better without him than with him, but it really doesn't matter anymore, now does it.

I'm guessing you aren't a fan of Dennis, who by the way was not off key and by most people's accounts sounds better than ever.

Thanks for stopping by.

Sadie

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:25 pm

I agree, you're entitled to your own opinion on how someone sounds, but I disagree with your opinion on Dennis, especially seeing him play live. Did you see him live in concert? Are you a Styx fan or just lurking on the forums?

I don't think it's nice to talk about how someone looks. Heck, did you check out the band Drama Queen Die? Do you really think those guys are good looking? Yikes!! :roll:

I'm sure you like their music, but does their looks matter?

by **kiddo** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:02 pm

So go see someone you enjoy, I'll see someone I enjoy...
See? Nothing to get so wrangled up about.

Just so you're in the know, the national newspaper reviews of his concerts have been overwhelmingly enthusiastic in praise of his voice, his music and his showmanship. Don't Let It End Dennis. :-)

kiddo

by **classicstyxfan** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:03 am

Anyone who cant tell the differnce between a lounge act and a staged show with a 40 piece orchestra cant be taken too seriously.

McCloud, can you tell the difference between playing 15,000 seat arenas and 500 seat casinos ?

but seriously, it's about the music, not the venue, or the hairstyle of the artist....at least that's true of most of us here. No one here has compared Styx look and act in their 50's to Spinal Tap, not that we couldn't, but the fact they are still making new music is more important to most of us than the look they are sporting as they enter middle age.

There are several here who prefer the sound 21st cerntury Styx is putting out these days...and that's understandable, I like it myself.
But bring something more substantial to the table with your next post, would you ? How bout you like Gowan's voice better than Dennis ? that would seem to be an argument you might make.

by **froy** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:52 am

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quote="mcloud"]I recently saw Mr. I'm so ridiculously feeble that I can't take lights, sound, and apparently rock and roll anymore Deyoung's recent attempt to transform himself back into a musician by surrounding himself with dozens of real musicians, a symphony. This was a PBS special, and apparently there's a DVD for sale of this crap, but I was truly embarrased for Dennis. Mr. Roboto still sounds like dogcrap even with 60 people playing over it. It was a joke! He's not even ready for Atlantic City, yet, but it seems like DDY wants to be a lounge act playing big rooms. He sounded awful, singing out of key. And he looks like a 60 year old woman. Kind of reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire meets Liberace. Not a good look for him.

Having seen Styx a couple of years ago, I can say they definitely are better off without this "entertainer"

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Thanks JY now go back to the saloon

by **maxell** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:20 am

I just went to see Dennis in Cleveland over the weekend, and I dont share mcloud's opinion. It was quite the show, me and my friend both thought so. Great singing, great orchestration, got to hear castle walls live, sound was great. The man can put on a show, kind of like Liberace except Dennis ain't gay.

I even got his autograph after the show, people were screaming for him and all that, and all he said was "take it easy, it's just me guys, I'm just an accordion player".

Some people just don't know talent when they see it!

by **DeeJaySTYX** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:04 am

mcloud wrote:I recently saw Mr. I'm so ridiculously feeble that I can't take lights, sound, and apparently rock and roll anymore Deyoung's recent attempt to transform himself back into a musician by surrounding himself with dozens of real musicians, a symphony. This was a PBS special, and apparently there's a DVD for sale of this crap, but I was truly embarrased for Dennis. Mr. Roboto still sounds like dogcrap even with 60 people playing over it. It was a joke! He's not even ready for Atlantic City, yet, but it seems like DDY wants to be a lounge act playing big rooms. He sounded awful, singing out of key. And he looks like a 60 year old woman. Kind of reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire meets Liberace. Not a good look for him.

Having seen Styx a couple of years ago, I can say they definitely are better off without this "entertainer"

Me thinks that our computer virus has returned(Itchyscratchy69)..So let me ask you, You rather listen to Taco singing Putting on the Ritz while sitting in the nude, RIGHT?????

I was at the Dennis Concert in Rockford..He performed really good that night despite having throat problems due to a cold..The music sounded excellent..

DeeJay.....

by **LordofDaRing** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:08 am

You are right Froy, dennis should take singing listens from JY...he handles those pitches in Loreli so eloquently.....Mcloud or itchy, whomever once again proves what a wonderful country we live in

by **mcloud** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:57 pm

Well, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I guess as a Styx fan for many years, since they played high school dances in Chicago, I'm just a little disappointed that Dennis walked away from the band, and instead chose to became an old man in a suit. I'd rather go see Tony Bennett if that's what I"m in the mood for. I think STyx still sounds great, and the old stuff still sounds great on the radio.

As for looks, I only made the comment on Dennis because it kind of looks like he WANTS to look like Mrs. Doubtfire. I'm sorry, but that's what he looks like. It's hard to take it seriously, I mean Styx with a symphony? I'll give Dennis credit though, his endeavor came off better than Metallica's with a symphony.

Now, as for Drama Queen Die, those farts may not be beautiful creatures, but they can rock. And what's wrong with lots of hair in a rock band? Brings back great memories of a time when guitars ruled.

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:02 am

Well, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I guess as a Styx fan for many years, since they played high school dances in Chicago, I'm just a little disappointed that Dennis walked away from the band, and instead chose to became an old man in a suit. I'd rather go see Tony Bennett if that's what I"m in the mood for. I think STyx still sounds great, and the old stuff still sounds great on the radio.

What? You have been a Styx fan for many years? You post like your some 18 year old with nothing better to do and not knowing the history of Styx. Dennis walked away from the band? When did this happen, Mr. Big Styx Fan? Old man in a suit? Should he be wearing his skull head t-shirts and leather pants? What the hell? Can't he wear what he wants to wear? If you'd like to see Tony Bennett, more power to you. I enjoy his music too. Of course the old "stuff" still sounds great on the radio, duh.

As for looks, I only made the comment on Dennis because it kind of looks like he WANTS to look like Mrs. Doubtfire. I'm sorry, but that's what he looks like. It's hard to take it seriously, I mean Styx with a symphony? I'll give Dennis credit though, his endeavor came off better than Metallica's with a symphony.

What? Dennis WANTS to look like Mrs. Doubtfire? Really? Styx with a Symphony, again did you see Dennis's solo concert live? I don't think you answered that question before before, you're too busy worrying about how Dennis looks.

Now, as for Drama Queen Die, those farts may not be beautiful creatures, but they can rock. And what's wrong with lots of hair in a rock band? Brings back great memories of a time when guitars ruled.

As for your Drama Queen Die, just remember that's YOUR opinion saying they can ROCK.

Go back to posting and getting excited over your little band on the other boards.

by **mcloud** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:36 am

Well excuse me for expressing my views Suite Madame Blue. I've been listening to Styx and seeing them live since I was 8 years old, so bite me. I'm entitled to express my impression of Mr. Deyoung's new look and sound. I don't like it. Okay, so go ahead and bash me and whatever other bands I happen to like, if that makes you feel better. I spoke to JY about the whole Dennis situation about a year ago, so I know more than you care to believe. And I'll take the new Styx without Dennis over the garbage DeYoung is doing now any day of the week. Get over it!

by **sadie65** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:45 am

Oooh. Another person who claims to have talked to a member of the band. Whoopi!!!! Glad you like what the band is doing now. Fine you don't like Dennis. We all got it. Did you notice no one who responded agreed with you? No one is stopping you from liking whomever you wish, but your initial post was mean spirited and meant to provoke a reaction. When it got one, you jumped in with the lame I didn't mean to offend anyone. Lighten up already.

And it does not impress at all to name drop. We've all had conversations with band members.

Sadie

by **yogi** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:40 am

See below. Double post for some reason

by **yogi** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:44 am

I havent!!! The closest I think I have ever got to actually talking to a member of Styx was a couple of times I exchanged a private E- mail on this site with Froy. Does that count??

by **sadie65** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:00 am

Yogi,

That's because you're too busy listening to your wife's Broadway albums to find the guys in the band. Just kidding.

Sadie

by **classicstyxfan** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:00 am

Interesting.....now JY is sharing intimate details of how the band worked and all of it's secrets with fans he meets for the 1st time...... ( ????) he must be having a hard time getting
people to listen to him, seeing as he's now confiding in strangers.

Hey you ! across the street....wanna hear about how Styx is better now than it used to be ???!!!!!

NO , WAIT........., COME BACK !!!!!! DENNIS WAS A REAL PRICK TO WORK WITH, REALLY HE WAS ! WHY ARE YOU GETTING IN YOUR CAR ??? DONT YOU WANT TO HEAR
ABOUT HOW WELL WE ALL WORK TOGETHER NOW THAT DENNIS IS GONE ? HEY, DON'T DRIVE AWAY !!!! WE'RE
REally great nowwwwwww............we'll be playing at your casino on tuesday.......please come see us......

by **ChicagoSTYX** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:09 am

Mcloud is right. Dennis is a real prick to work with. I know this for a fact!!!!!
He has a great voice but he also has an ego to match!

by **sadie65** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:45 am

Yes, Dennis has never denied being hard to work with. At least they had some good results when he was with them. And please, let's keep in mind they all were difficult. It happens when you have different creative forces working together. Please try at some point to come up with some useful information.

Sadie

by **kiddo** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:05 am

I go on record really liking Dennis in the suit. The blue suit. The pinstriped suit. The high nehru collar suit. The suits all work for me. They evoke style. Style also works for me. :-)

kiddo

by **mcloud** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:06 pm

I'm new here, but there seems to be resentment towards JY. Anything in particular about him or anything he has said to cause animosity?

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:08 am

Go to the post "New JY Interview" and read his latest interview.

Everyone has their opinions about each member of the band here, as you can tell :wink:

About your comments about Dennis, if someone came on here and cut down Tommy about his looks, the way he dresses, the way he sings, I think there would be a lot of feedback, especially from some of the lurkers on here. Tommy's comments about Dennis have toned down (in the press).

It's been 5 years since Dennis was kicked out of Styx. Dennis has moved on and Carrot Styx has moved on.

by **DeeJaySTYX** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:41 am

mcloud wrote:I'm new here, but there seems to be resentment towards JY. Anything in particular about him or anything he has said to cause animosity?

While watching Dennis perform I came to the conclusion that Dennis has moved on and he enjoys what he is doing..

As for J.Y., for a guy who sure is glad that Dennis is gone from the current Styx 5.0, he finds it necessary to take pot shots at Dennis..This will cause animosity and resentment from some of the fans at J.Y.

In other words If you throw stones at someone the only person you are really hitting is yourself....

DeeJay...

by **froy** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:48 am

mcloud wrote:Well excuse me for expressing my views Suite Madame Blue. I've been listening to Styx and seeing them live since I was 8 years old, so bite me. I'm entitled to express my impression of Mr. Deyoung's new look and sound. I don't like it. Okay, so go ahead and bash me and whatever other bands I happen to like, if that makes you feel better. I spoke to JY about the whole Dennis situation about a year ago, so I know more than you care to believe. And I'll take the new Styx without Dennis over the garbage DeYoung is doing now any day of the week. Get over it!

Is This Chicago Styx or is this Psycho ?

Who cares if you talked to JY
The fact is why is he still talking about it.
And who the hell is JY anyway ?
If it were not for Dennis DeYoung JY would be washing cars.
Another fact is no promoter is buying Styx anymore and that's probably why you don't see the Night Ranger Nugent thing
They are only getting 5000 a piece for each show big deal .
I hope someday I can be a Styx fan again if not Dennis is just fine to cheer for He's a class act .

by **mcloud** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:37 am

Froy, you are way off on that $5000 per show figure. Way off! Where did you get that info from anyway? Curious.

by **maxell** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:38 pm

How far off?

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:08 pm

Well, I do some work for the music/television/film industry, I do know that Carrot Styx is paid more for their performance, I don't have the exact figure on them. Night Ranger is paid almost double and Loverboy is paid over $5000.00 for their concerts. It also depends on the circumstance too when a band or artist plays at a certain venue. Sometimes a band will donate part of their profits for a concert to a local charity event or organization. That's one reason you'll see different ticket prices for different venues throughout the US. Another reason is the venue itself and paying the security, staff, insurance, etc. It's not made public when this (donation or charity event) happens, but quite a few bands participate in donating money.

This is also interesting, it has nothing to do with anything, but fun to read. This is a list for the catering requirements for Styx. I don't know how current this list is, but here it is. When you're done reading this one, go to main menu for "Backstage Pass" and read about the other bands. I had to chuckle on a few of them:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstaget ... styx1.html

by **yogi** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:57 pm

Man Hands,
You have really been talking a GOOD game lately. You seem VERY knowledgeable in many areas. Although we will NEVER see eye to eye on certain issues I would like your honest answers to the following questions. If you dont know the answer give me what you think is your best guess.
1. Andrew quoted sales figures for Cyclorama about 8 monts ago. These figures did NOT include concert CD sales or internet sales (Amazon. com etc...) Taking into account all of the shows Styx plays, and since many of us old fogies purchase music over the internet what do you think Cyclorama sales figures are?
2. Why does Dennis Deyoung NOT have a recording contract? He has ENORMOUS talent ANYONE can see that. I have ALWAYS said while Tommy Shaw is a HUGE star Dennis is a SUPERSTAR. Why no contract, even today record execs have to be able to see his tremendous talent and future potential regardless of age.
3. Why will no one in Styx past or present say ANYTHING really positive about Dennis other than praising his great voice. The nicest thing I have heard was Todd once said 'Dennis treated me fairly, but I cant say he did that with everyone'. Hell, he was responsible for Glen, and Todd joining Styx and they really wont say anything positive. Why wont Chuck play some of his shows? Rumor has it he drove John C. away. Could he possibly be that much of a prick? He doesnt come off that way, but is he?
4. Finally what do you really think caused the breakup and such hard feelings now, and will they EVER play together on the same stage?
I am looking forward to reading your answers. If anyone else wants to chime in, go ahead.
YOGA

by **froy** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:02 am

mcloud wrote:Froy, you are way off on that $5000 per show figure. Way off! Where did you get that info from anyway? Curious.

5000 each member
Promoters talk

by **yogi** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:09 am

Froy are your numbers accurate? If they are, and each member receives 5,000 dollars per show. Thats REAL good money. I have a VERY hard time believeing Ricky makes as much as Tommy per show. I always kind of thought they got paid per tour. Like this summer they will have 85 shows with Frampton and Nelson? Styx will receive 1.2 million, Frampton 750,000, Nelson 500,000. Then the groups management team and its members decide how to split up the money.

MR