Styx Trivia - Lorelei

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Styx Trivia - Lorelei

Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:20 pm

More "useless Styx information" :)

When Dennis and JY were writing "Lorelei", the song had another title, can anyone name the original song title? (Bugsy, you can't answer it-LOL)

Dennis said that "the original title was changed after "Lady" became a big hit. They wanted a female name in the song title with 3 syllables to go with the verse "let's live together" and they also wanted it to start with the letter "L".
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Postby ek88 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:29 pm

A buddy of mine just had a baby girl and named her Lorelei! I had to smile because he's a huge Styx fan! Just think, had they not changed the name, his daughter might be going by something else - LOL!
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Postby DarrenUK » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:13 pm

I will go for..

Su-Hu-Zanne lets live together.......
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:59 pm

No, it's not a name of any person, but great guess.

I don't think anyone will get it, unless it was in an old article or interview. I never knew this before.

At one of the places where I used to work (& in high school), my nickname was "Lorelei" since I loved Styx so much. I run into some of my old co-workers and they still think that's my real name - LOL
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Postby styxfanNH » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:12 pm

ek88 wrote:A buddy of mine just had a baby girl and named her Lorelei! I had to smile because he's a huge Styx fan! Just think, had they not changed the name, his daughter might be going by something else - LOL!


Good thing they didn't name her Jennifer...
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Postby bugsymalone » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:54 am

Good thing they didn't name her Jennifer...


I gotta go with ya there, NH!!!

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Postby DarrenUK » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:36 am

Could of been worse the baby could of been named plexiglass toilet
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Postby classicstyxfan » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:52 am

Or Just "Plexi"...........I've heard worse names than that !

Or Crystal ( middle name Ball, of course.....)


I wonder if anyone has ever named their daughter "Lady" I know a few Canine creatures have gone by that name.
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Postby LordofDaRing » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:09 am

Popeye helped out...Olive Oil lets live together???

No idea suite.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:37 pm

Bugsy can have the honor to answering the trivia :) I never knew the answer.

I hope to have one of my friends transcribe the interview on here. Bugsy can tell you a little more about the questions and answers. :wink:
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Postby bugsymalone » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:47 pm

And guess what? I forgot what he said. Too much information in too short a time! I do remember some of the interview and can post some of that here.

Sorry! :oops:

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Postby sadie65 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:01 am

Was it...harmony?
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Postby bugsymalone » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:49 am

OK, according to Dennis, "Lorelei's" working title was "Grande". They decided, as Suite mentioned, they needed a three syllable, alliterative name to go with the two "l's" in "Let's Live Together". So Lorelei was pulled out of thin air apparently.

I think the most interesting interview with any of the three main songwriters in Classic Styx would be the genesis of all the songs on each album.

I'd buy a book that covered that topic for sure.

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Postby sadie65 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:57 am

Grande...let's live together...

that just doesn't flow. I can see why they changed it.

But what were they thinking...grande??????

What kind of name is that????
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Postby swwskj » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:07 am

A great name for a burrito supreme I guess.

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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:04 am

Thanks Bugsy for posting. :) If you remember anything else from the interview, go ahead and post, you know how long I take - LOL Dennis explains why it was changed.

Scott says:

A great name for a burrito supreme I guess


LOL - FUNNY!!! :lol:
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Postby evileyes » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:01 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:...I hope to have one of my friends transcribe the interview on here....

still waiting......patiently.....
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:00 am

Just remember not to hold your breath EE - LOL Most of you know how long it takes me to get things out :oops: I just need to make copies.

Does everyone know the "Desert Moon" story? If anyone's interested, I'll make it a new topic :)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:45 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Does everyone know the "Desert Moon" story? If anyone's interested, I'll make it a new topic :)


Since I am re-learning about Styx, I am unterested.
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Postby BlackWall » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:52 pm

Does anyone know who wrote the words/music for "Lorelei", between Dennis and J.Y., or did they both write a little of each?
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Postby BlackWall » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:30 am

I've always assumed that since J.Y. takes it upon himself to sing this one live, that he at least had a hand in writing the lyrics..

One last note, I really dig the version on "RTP".. That's the last time, in my opinion, the song was really done justice, by either camp.
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Postby styxdoc » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:58 am

I recall reading that the song was originally JY's music that he wrote prior to joining Styx. He didn't finish the song, and DDY principally added the lyrics and refined the music. Of course I could be completely wrong! Suite?
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Postby froy » Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:02 am

bugsymalone wrote:OK, according to Dennis, "Lorelei's" working title was "Grande". They decided, as Suite mentioned, they needed a three syllable, alliterative name to go with the two "l's" in "Let's Live Together". So Lorelei was pulled out of thin air apparently.



If you lived in Chicago back in the 70's you would remember a girl who was the Loop FM 98 's cover girl her name was Lorelei
Im sure they got the name from her in was almost the same year if I remember right
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Postby sadie65 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:14 am

froy wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:OK, according to Dennis, "Lorelei's" working title was "Grande". They decided, as Suite mentioned, they needed a three syllable, alliterative name to go with the two "l's" in "Let's Live Together". So Lorelei was pulled out of thin air apparently.



If you lived in Chicago back in the 70's you would remember a girl who was the Loop FM 98 's cover girl her name was Lorelei
Im sure they got the name from her in was almost the same year if I remember right


She came after. She was a part of the Disco demolition. Styx' Lorelei was 1975, that was 1979. See link

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas ... 11&id=2300
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:14 am

Froy, didn't have to do with anyone specifically, read the top of this post. :wink:

Thanks Sadie for the link!! Now I know whose lips were on Rocky Horror Picture Show poster :)

Sheesh, I've learned so much new information just from this message board, it's GREAT!! :)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:39 am

That was a great read, thanks for that link!
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:07 pm

Look for more meanings of Styx/Dennis songs coming up more and more.

This is from Suzanne's THE CRIB from Dennis' site


Having given one of our daughter's Lorelei as a middle name I am curious if there is any background to the song and its lyrics. I definitely enjoyed the song in its day, I like the name itself, and the mythological background as a Siren of the Rhine is also quite novel/interesting.
Thank you for any/all info.,

Scott


Dear Scott,
The only background I have heard is that the original song was called "Grande" and because of the success of "Lady" Dennis was looking for another 'L' word.

No other information is forthcoming. Neither Dennis nor JY knew anyone by this name. The "Loop's" Lorelei came a few years after the release of this song.

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