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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:14 am

Back to STYX. :wink:

There should be comments from this article that I found. I have to say that one of my favorite comments from the article is from Tommy:

“Sing For The Day (on the new album) is for Hannah,” said Tommy. “She’s the little girl 15 years old in the front row at a Styx concert. Ten years from now she’ll still be young.”



The Toronto Sun
Thursday, September 14, 1978

Pieces of Eight remains in non-rut Styx tradition

“Boston went from the darlings to the dogs in two years:
“No one told us we were doing anything good, so we kept changing”

Dennis DeYoung of Styx


In the beginning was ambition without much recognition, even at home in Chicago. Four albums on Wooden Nickel generated one belated regional hit, no national tour, less than no profit. Then….

No. 5: Equinox, more than 230,000 sold in Canada to date.
No. 6: Crystal Ball, more than 140,000 sold.
No. 7: Grand Illusion, released 7/7/77 and already more than 260,000.
Now it’s Pieces of Eight, and Styx has done it again – again a little differently.
Take that as you want, but a huge number of young and youthful rockfans will be delighted – from the punching-bag beginning to the dreamy instrumental ending, Pieces of Eight remains true to Styx and their legions of rock rivals without getting stuck in their collective rut.
“We’ve been a song-oriented high-harmony synthesizers-and –guitars rockband since ’72,” bandleader Dennis DeYoung told me. “Equinox was the beginning of our identity. Now we’re pretty much who we are musically.
“But we didn’t want to repeat Grand Illusion. We don’t want to be a commercial cop-out or an esoteric cop-out but just to move gradually. If we want to do something funky, we don’t try to be the Commodores. With our synthesizers we don’t try to be Tomita. We try to be Styx! And we do it damn well because we’ve been doing it for so damn long.”

J.Y. (James Young) and young Tommy Shaw, share the lead guitar credits and split both the songwriting and lead vocals responsibilities pretty evenly with Dennis, agree with this assessment.
They also disagree about other things and agree that therein lies their strength.

“The songs are put up to a group decision,” said Tommy. I trust the other guys’ opinion: The best songs are on the album.”
“I take my hat off to Paul Simon and even Peter Frampton, who have to follow up their own successes all by themselves,” said Dennis. “Fleetwood Mac are more like us. With their range of writers and singers it’s always fresh. The longevity of our band comes from the fact that there are three people around to share the creative load.”
The rivalry extends to performance as well. Admitted Tommy: “Dennis sang so well on (the new album’s) Queen of Spades that I went back into the studio and re-did all my vocals. It’s this competitive edge that makes us what we are.”
What keeps them going? Travel?
Not Dennis: “I love playing but I hate the road. I’d rather be in familiar surroundings with the people that I care about. My daughter starts school this week…”
Money?
Not Tommy: “Money draws a lot of flies.”
Not Dennis: “Some sort of neurotic desire to be loved was the original impulse. Suddenly with money there are new problems, and that’s an underlying theme of this album – but I never saw myself working for the purpose of earning money and I hope I never have to.”
What then? The music itself?
Yes, partly. Dennis is proud of the synthesizer voicings that were created for this album. And playing the pipe organ as he ahs here makes him want “to fall on my knees and scribble into the ground in blood that there is a god.”
Tommy is equally hooked. “I’m not as extroverted in real life as I am on stage. The show is my one chance to plug in and take control.”
What about artistic achievement?
Yes, that’s a motive too. The next album (possibly called Eine Kleine Styxmusik) will be a double live album, which they seem to feel is some kind of cop-out, but they like what they’ve heard on tape, and they think their creativity could use a break.
“This will give us a chance to decide what we want to do with the next stage of our career,” said Dennis. “I hope it will be something different – even shocking. I hope people won’t like it for four or five listenings… and then understand.”
“We’re going to do a classic rendition of Old Man River and the Theme from King of Kings,” J.Y. announced.
“I want to stick with rock’n’roll” said Tommy. “When my legs fail me, maybe then I’ll get out, but not until.”
“All my life I’ve wanted to have people concerned with what I think – life pays you no higher compliment,” said Dennis. “I want to go down in rock’n’roll history having made an important contribution.”
“Sing For The Day (on the new album) is for Hannah,” said Tommy. “She’s the little girl 15 years old in the front row at a Styx concert. Ten years from now she’ll still be young.” He smiled. “Rock’n’Roll is a very short-lived business. Sing For The Day is about choosing to ignore the inevitable.”
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Postby bugsymalone » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:37 am

The next album (possibly called Eine Kleine Styxmusik) will be a double live album, which they seem to feel is some kind of cop-out, but they like what they’ve heard on tape, and they think their creativity could use a break.


Too bad the live stuff from that era was never released on a double live. I would buy that CD TODAY!

Good article, Suite. Thanks for putting it on here.

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Postby gr8dane » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:53 am

I remember reading a review in the Toronto Sun of Carrot Styx show in Massey Hall(their first),that was very favorable.I did not go to the show because only 2 original members were in the band.
I was ofcourse proven wrong later.
Nice article though,and to me it was all downhill from here.
Yeah Mike lighten up.There were ofcourse still good songs coming out after Pieces,but it wasn't up to my favorite era.But what the hey,I was still a follower.Still am.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:58 am

Cornerstone is one of the best. That's the one that I played over and over when I was in grade school. I just played the cd a few times over and over and over yesterday. I even had to play "First Time" a few more spins :wink: I don't think they went down hill, they didn't go downhill until after 1999. :cry: Just my opinion, like usual.

gr8dane, was Chuck at that show (Massey Hall)?
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Postby gr8dane » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:54 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Cornerstone is one of the best. That's the one that I played over and over when I was in grade school. I just played the cd a few times over and over and over yesterday. I even had to play "First Time" a few more spins :wink: I don't think they went down hill, they didn't go downhill until after 1999. :cry: Just my opinion, like usual.

gr8dane, was Chuck at that show (Massey Hall)?


Cornerstone does have some nuggets but unfortunately there are also some ehh un-Styx' songs that brought this one down,a lot.

Do not remember if Chuckey was in Massey,but somehow I think he was there,but do not remember fershure.
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Postby sadie65 » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:41 am

[quote]“Sing For The Day (on the new album) is for Hannah,” said Tommy. “She’s the little girl 15 years old in the front row at a Styx concert. Ten years from now she’ll still be young.” He smiled. “Rock’n’Roll is a very short-lived business. Sing For The Day is about choosing to ignore the inevitable.”[quote]

It is interesting to see that comment. When looking forward in one's career, there is usually a sense of knowing that staying in the game for a long time is nearly impossible and often comes across as not knowing when to let go. I wonder if he remembers when he felt this way...
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:43 am

gr8dane says:

Cornerstone does have some nuggets but unfortunately there are also some ehh un-Styx' songs that brought this one down,a lot.


Noooooooooooo, don't say that (LOL) nothing can bring this album/cd down. I would love to hear "Lights" and "Boat On The River" live. Oh and hopefully I'll be able to hear "Why Me" live!! Love that song too :)

If Chuck wasn't at that show, then there was only one original member at that concert. :wink: The great JY :)

It's sad to see how a lot of these bands that started out as friends break up, bummer. When I interview these young kids that are just starting out in bands, they think money and fame will never get between them. :cry:
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Postby sadie65 » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:49 am

It's sad to see how a lot of these bands that started out as friends break up, bummer. When I interview these young kids that are just starting out in bands, they think money and fame will never get between them. :cry:


It takes a really special, grounded person not to be overtaken by the hype that gets thrown your way when you become successful. I'd be willing to bet very few people handle it well. We place such special importance to anyone who can sing, act, play an instrument, play a sport. We forget they are just people. You don't see people do that with things like, plumbing, data entry, customer service, meter readers...you get the idea. So how hard must it be when because you have been recognized for those "special" talents, you are now elevates to a ridiculous status?
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:58 am

Growing up I always thought the guys from STYX were "Superstars" (I love that song), but when I started to meet them and talk to them, they just became regular people to me - except when they're following me on the freeway - LOL I'd rather have another kid instead of that experience ever again in my entire life - LOL :shock:

Sadie says:


It takes a really special, grounded person not to be overtaken by the hype that gets thrown your way when you become successful.

There are quite a few people that can't handle the success and everything that's thrown with it. I would never want that type of life.
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Postby gr8dane » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:39 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:gr8dane says:

Cornerstone does have some nuggets but unfortunately there are also some ehh un-Styx' songs that brought this one down,a lot.


Noooooooooooo, don't say that (LOL) nothing can bring this album/cd down. I would love to hear "Lights" and "Boat On The River" live. Oh and hopefully I'll be able to hear "Why Me" live!! Love that song too :)

If Chuck wasn't at that show, then there was only one original member at that concert. :wink: The great JY :)

It's sad to see how a lot of these bands that started out as friends break up, bummer. When I interview these young kids that are just starting out in bands, they think money and fame will never get between them. :cry:
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Postby gr8dane » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:48 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:gr8dane says:

Cornerstone does have some nuggets but unfortunately there are also some ehh un-Styx' songs that brought this one down,a lot.


Noooooooooooo, don't say that (LOL) nothing can bring this album/cd down. I would love to hear "Lights" and "Boat On The River" live. Oh and hopefully I'll be able to hear "Why Me" live!! Love that song too :)

If Chuck wasn't at that show, then there was only one original member at that concert. :wink: The great JY :)

It's sad to see how a lot of these bands that started out as friends break up, bummer. When I interview these young kids that are just starting out in bands, they think money and fame will never get between them. :cry:


Well,lets look at it from my perspective if you don't mind.
Everything from Equinox and back are THE Styx albums.Cornerstone is absolutely uncomparable.There aare 3 or 4 STYX songs ,but the rest is ....
useless.
Babe is a fantastic song,but next to anything from Ekwinoks it is pure drivel.First time,is like being stuck in a swimmingpool full of syrup.
1/2 and 1/2.
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Postby yogi » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:25 am

I thought Love In The Midnight, Borrowed Time, Lights, & Eddie were all exceptional songs. Babe hit # 1 and is a VERY VERYgood ballad. Why Me and Never Say Never are not bad songs, and to be honest either is First Time. I didnt like Boat On The River back in '79, but I love it now.

Thats the entire album. It's not Equinox, but its pretty damn STRONG. I like it much better than Crystal Ball, Paradise Theatre & for sure Kilroy
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:08 am

Babe is a fantastic song,but next to anything from Ekwinoks it is pure drivel.First time,is like being stuck in a swimmingpool full of syrup.
1/2 and 1/2.


Heh, the froyisms above made me think of something...

Cornerstone is to Styx what Ewoks are to Star Wars. Yeah, they are cute and cuddly and some people love them. But, when compared to what came before, they seem out of place and do not live up to the reputation of the name.
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Postby bugsymalone » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:15 am

“No one told us we were doing anything good, so we kept changing”


Cornerstone fits right into this philosophy, if you will. I like the majority of songs on it. It was a departure for Styx and so was Paradise Theater. I LIKED that they had the courage, the talent, and the smarts to change some of their music, yet keep the aspects of it that made everyone like it in the first place.

I really wish that this group of five guys had just taken a deep breath and a long rest after Kilroy Was Here, come back together, and created something new and interesting yet again. 'Twas not to be. as we all know.

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Postby gr8dane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:24 am

Monker wrote:
Babe is a fantastic song,but next to anything from Ekwinoks it is pure drivel.First time,is like being stuck in a swimmingpool full of syrup.
1/2 and 1/2.


Heh, the froyisms above made me think of something...

Cornerstone is to Styx what Ewoks are to Star Wars. Yeah, they are cute and cuddly and some people love them. But, when compared to what came before, they seem out of place and do not live up to the reputation of the name.


I know what you mean,looked at it later and it does sound contradictionary.
Babe is beautiful Dennis song,but when I listen to Styx, this is what I absolutely do not want to hear.
Cornerstone is half great Styx and half shite Styx.
Is this clearer???
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Postby classicstyxfan » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:13 am

to me, Cornerstone was the 1st CD that had songs geared towards selling records to a younger crowd......( and since Suite is so much younger than me, it makes perfect sense that she was hooked on it at her tender age in 1979.....)

but hey.....to each heir own. as Pop music goes, it's pretty damn good, but it just doesnt measure up as well when you change the classification to Rock.

IMHO........
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:45 am

gr8dane says:

Babe is a fantastic song,but next to anything from Ekwinoks it is pure drivel.First time,is like being stuck in a swimmingpool full of syrup.
1/2 and 1/2.


I sure love syrup - LOL Ekwinoks, I love it!! I guess Bugsy and I are the only ones that pronounce it correct - LOL Just kidding.

Classic says:

to me, Cornerstone was the 1st CD that had songs geared towards selling records to a younger crowd......( and since Suite is so much younger than me, it makes perfect sense that she was hooked on it at her tender age in 1979.....)


Yes, the younger crowd, that was me during the release of Cornerstone. Classic, I didn't think I was that much younger than you :wink:
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Postby classicstyxfan » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:28 pm

Suite, we may be close in age now, but the difference between 16-17 and 12 is pretty huge ! :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:55 pm

Another oldie but goodie..........
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