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ohsherrie wrote:
This is so sadly true. IMO I wish they would retire the name, or at least vary it in some way, when the star most identified with the name is no longer with the band. Continuing the name under, what I consider, false pretenses hasn't worked very well for most bands.
OK, I'm going all "Journey" on you guys. Sorry, I wish this was on the Journey board.
ohsherrie wrote:"No one has ever mistaken an Elvis impersonator for Elvis. A new band playing someone else's hits under the original name is no different than the performers doing Liberace or Judy Garland in the Legends of Las Vegas show. But it is legal."
This is so sadly true. IMO I wish they would retire the name, or at least vary it in some way, when the star most identified with the name is no longer with the band. Continuing the name under, what I consider, false pretenses hasn't worked very well for most bands.
OK, I'm going all "Journey" on you guys. Sorry, I wish this was on the Journey board.
LordofDaRing wrote:My favorite example are the Beach Boys. No Brian, Carl or Dennis Wilson, no Al Jardine. All they have is Mike Love and Bruce Johnston who was not an original member...gimme a break. I don't care how talented the supporting cast are, this is not the Beach Boys.
onestilllearning wrote:Is Styx still Styx with only one original member?
Yes and heres why imho - Styx is a band that grew and evolved when JC was replaced with TS the band got better. To me the heart and soul of the band was DDY, JY and TS . Those guys wrote and sang the songs. JP and CP great guys and talented musician are and were replacable. Technichally CP is still a member. Todd is a better drummer than JP and for my money you can insert any decent bass player to cover CP. So for me 2/3 of Styx is still there.
To me the heart and soul of the band was DDY, JY and TS . Those guys wrote and sang the songs. JP and CP great guys and talented musician are and were replacable.
mr.v wrote:I think Lynyrd Skynyrd are an intresting situation, all though only one original member is there (The keyboard player - Billy Powell - I think)
kansas666 wrote:mr.v wrote:I think Lynyrd Skynyrd are an intresting situation, all though only one original member is there (The keyboard player - Billy Powell - I think)
Actually Billy Powell isn't an original member. He was not on their first album. But he has the most seniority.
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:onestilllearning says:To me the heart and soul of the band was DDY, JY and TS . Those guys wrote and sang the songs. JP and CP great guys and talented musician are and were replacable.
It's still my favorite line up of STYX![]()
LordofDaRing wrote:You gotta cut LS some slack, if not for that awful plane crash, I am sure Ronny Van Zandt and Steve Gaines would still be in the band. The allman brothers are another one in question, they fired Dickey Betts one of the singer/songwriter/guitarists in the band who sang the awesome Ramblin Man. I agree with some of the comments here, you have to look at what each individual brought to each band. I tend to agree that Todd is a better drummer and that Chuck who did not write or sing could have been replaced by any number of fine bass players (GB was an excellent choice). Having said all of that, I think JY's contributions are still a bit overated to this bands history. In fact I would go as far as to say, Mr Burtnik's contributions on Edge, his dynamic stage prescence and Kiss Your Ass Goodbye blow away JY's contribution. Very few people when they think of Styx mention Miss America, Midnight Ride (which I liked), Southern Woman, Eddie, etc, etc. My favorite line up that never happened would be TS, GB, CP, TS and DDY as the new Styx. Much lighter tour schedule and a much better produced CD product.
sadie65 wrote:My favorite line that never happened, would have DDY, TS, GB, JY, and Todd. Well I take that back, it did happen for one show-ERIC
onestilllearning wrote: While I do enjoy the current line up, TS's contention that this is the best Styx line up is just spin or worse maybe he believes it. This Styx will never fill a stadium of screaming fans, just a bunch of old farts re-visiting the past. ----But thats ok
mr.v wrote:"Having said all of that, I think JY's contributions are still a bit overated to this bands history. In fact I would go as far as to say, Mr Burtnik's contributions on Edge, his dynamic stage prescence and Kiss Your Ass Goodbye blow away JY's contribution. Very few people when they think of Styx mention Miss America, Midnight Ride (which I liked), Southern Woman, Eddie, etc, etc."
Got to disagree with you here. As musch as some members of this forum like to slam JY his guitar work and screaming backing vocals are as much a signature sound to STYX as Dennis and Tommys voices are. In fact it is that guitar work and vocals that tie the STYX sound together. He may not have written or sung any of the big hits but is is a HUGE part of what made those songs hits and I question whether those songs would have hit as hard with out his contributions. Not to mention his LOOK - back in the day - was as much representive of STYX as Tommy or Dennis. I will agree that JP & CP could have been replaced but pull JY out and I think you never would have seen STYX make the hits or impact on the music world that they did. You may not like him now but to disrespect or try to lessen his impact on the music is just not fair.
Zan wrote:
Trying to find an objective opinion here is like trying to find Dennis' natural hair line.
Got to disagree with you here. As musch as some members of this forum like to slam JY his guitar work and screaming backing vocals are as much a signature sound to STYX as Dennis and Tommys voices are.
In fact it is that guitar work and vocals that tie the STYX sound together. He may not have written or sung any of the big hits but is is a HUGE part of what made those songs hits and I question whether those songs would have hit as hard with out his contributions. Not to mention his LOOK - back in the day - was as much representive of STYX as Tommy or Dennis. I will agree that JP & CP could have been replaced but pull JY out and I think you never would have seen STYX make the hits or impact on the music world that they did. You may not like him now but to disrespect or try to lessen his impact on the music is just not fair.
Thanks, Mr. V! JY *IS* the glue that held our precious band together from about 1979 THROUGH--. Like it or not, without him, there would be no Styx after Cornerstone. And I also think the bitterness has tainted the consensus QUITE a bit around these parts.
DarwinNebraska wrote:Styx without Dennis = Joke
Journey with Augeri = Joke
Lynyrd Skynyrd post '77 = Joke
Little River Band = Always A joke
Doors 21st Century = Joke
All my opinions. All not getting one dime of my money.
Thank you and good night.
DarwinNebraska wrote:Styx without Dennis = Joke
Journey with Augeri = Joke
Lynyrd Skynyrd post '77 = Joke
Little River Band = Always A joke
Doors 21st Century = Joke
All my opinions. All not getting one dime of my money.
Thank you and good night.
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