New Perry interview

[The_Noble_Cause]

You see unlike you Jrnyman, I don't stand around (so to speak) when a bully is attacking someone else on the board for simply stating their own views & opinions in a respectful manner. I believe in speaking up, not staying silent.

Dave is pretty equalative is dispensing reprimands to those he thinks have crossd the line on this board.
He has done it to 'Loons, he has done it to Journeyphiles and he has done it to me PLENTY of times.
Lady, you do not know of which you speak.

[Andrew]

Sony said he was not doing interviews? Then what was the ClassicRockLive interview? And Sony is marketing a Journey DVD produced by Perry, but not requiring him to help them market it by doing interviews? What a load of BS. I think Perry simply gave Sony a list of media that he will not do interviews with, and you, Andrew, are on that list because you support the current lineup. You yourself told us Perry feels that way about you.

Hey NiG,
Well mate...thanks for the response. I'm just passing on what I was told, but the Sony line was definitely confusing consdiering the CRR interview.

I'd love to do an interview....will always remain disappointed that I haven't been able to do one if it never happens.

You (and I) can speculate I guess....The only time I was ever given a reason for being denied an interview was back in late 98 or early 99 I think when I was told by Perry's management that I was too vocally supportive of the new line-up of the band and for that reason they could not understand why I would be interested in talkign to Perry.

You will recall I had the world first exclusive of breaking the news that Perry had left the band in 98. I guess that has not been forgotten.

But, still no reply from management for this latest request....I'll keep you posted.

[Andrew]

By the way Andrew stated he was "out of line" for his behavior, but you took sides, AFTER Andrew got involved & blamed the person who was being attacked.

Lori

Where did I "take sides"? (BTW, I have decided there should be no "sides" here, it is all personal opinion. If I am on a side, it is MY side.) Where did Andrew say anyone was out of line? I see he did that AFTER your post but not before.

Er, yeah....you maye have to remaind me of this also. When was I out of line?

[ohsherrie]

Everything Steve Perry has done since "I Stand Alone" has been based on his "old work". That is living in the past and not moving on.

But Monker, you don't even know what he's been doing with his life. All you know is that whatever it is, it's not what you think he should be, or should want to be, doing.

...not relive it over and over again until the day you die...and don't tell others to 'get a life' when your own seems to be screwed up.

So, now that he's providing the fans with something that they've all been asking for(release of the old Journey video footage)for at least the 5 - 6 years that I've been on these boards, he's reliving the past rather than doing something for those fans. Of course if the band had been allowed to release it, thereby using the Perry voice, image and legacy to promote what they're doing now, even though Perry doesn't agree with them doing that, it would be fine, right?

You don't know if his life is screwed up or not, you've just got a dose of the feelings that we had when Neal lambasted Perry fans and you're not taking it any better than we did. But of course at the time you felt that Neal was completely justified. Well, if our attitudes toward the band justified Neal's rath, then the terrible things that have been said about Steve over these years certainly justify his relatively mild rebuke.

I think I smell a..., oh my goodness could it be a h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?:shock:

No, I wasn't saying that. But, I think other people will take it to mean that. I think his time in Journey ended in 1998 and everything that follows simply doesn't matter to him because he isn't there...just as you said.

Yeah, that about sums it up.

[ohsherrie]

I think Perry simply gave Sony a list of media that he will not do interviews with, and you, Andrew, are on that list because you support the current lineup. You yourself told us Perry feels that way about you.

NIG, I seriously doubt that Steve gave Sony anything except the time it took him to produce this DVD. I really don't think he's very friendly with them.

Hey NiG,
Well mate...thanks for the response. I'm just passing on what I was told, but the Sony line was definitely confusing consdiering the CRR interview.

I'd love to do an interview....will always remain disappointed that I haven't been able to do one if it never happens.

You (and I) can speculate I guess....The only time I was ever given a reason for being denied an interview was back in late 98 or early 99 I think when I was told by Perry's management that I was too vocally supportive of the new line-up of the band and for that reason they could not understand why I would be interested in talkign to Perry.

You will recall I had the world first exclusive of breaking the news that Perry had left the band in 98. I guess that has not been forgotten.

But, still no reply from management for this latest request....I'll keep you posted.

Andrew, if you know of a way that some of us(the ones who could do it respectfully)could petition for you in this matter, maybe that would help. I know I'd be willing to try.

[ohsherrie]

That excuse doesn't hold water, NIG.
Jeb from classicrockrevisited.com is also a pretty emphatic Augeri-era fan.

I don't know anything about classicrockrevisited.com, I'd never heard of it until this interview was posted. Does it have a messageboard?

[Rockindeano]

By the way Andrew stated he was "out of line" for his behavior, but you took sides, AFTER Andrew got involved & blamed the person who was being attacked.

Lori

Where did I "take sides"? (BTW, I have decided there should be no "sides" here, it is all personal opinion. If I am on a side, it is MY side.) Where did Andrew say anyone was out of line? I see he did that AFTER your post but not before.

Er, yeah....you maye have to remaind me of this also. When was I out of line?

I can clear this up/ I was the one who was out of line...After Marabelle and I argued, Andrew mentioned I was out of line. Ok, so i was. I still won the argument.

[Rockindeano]

That excuse doesn't hold water, NIG.
Jeb from classicrockrevisited.com is also a pretty emphatic Augeri-era fan.

I don't know anything about classicrockrevisited.com, I'd never heard of it until this interview was posted. Does it have a messageboard?

You won't like it. They are favourable to Journey. (The present day version). The real Journey.

[ohsherrie]

his reasons for doing what he did has nothing at all to do with you. just as the reasons you do what you do has nothing to do with him. he sang when he wanted to sing and didn't when he couldn't and there are lot more reasons for not singing than not having the voice to do it. he sang when there was the passion to sing; when it was gone or all used up he didn't sing. he doesn't have to explain to you why he did what he did; he just did what he had to do. i think the problem with fans are that they feel they have privy to the life you live and the way you live it. you are the fan; not his confidant or friend. if he could have given you more he probably would have but he didn't or he couldn't; that's just the way it is.
as far as the contract...if it meant to safeguard his privacy; why not?

Good post!

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Guys, what do you feel there is to gain, for us or the band, by knowing the "behind the music" details? I'm as curious as anyone about them, but I don't think they'll make one bit of difference in the results. Maybe it would give you more reason to blame Steve for.....something....., but what would you blame him for? For being in the band in the first place? Well, we probably wouldn't be here talking about the band if he hadn't. For not being in the band anymore? You're happy with the current band, right? For ROR, he couldn't have done what some of you think of as such a horrendous thing without Neal and Jon going along with it(remember what Smitty said?). For keeping the band hanging in '87? As I understand it they could have chosen to go with another singer then, if he was such a pain in the ass to them they didn't have to let him come back.

There were a lot of what some of us would, for our own reasons, consider to be mistakes made over the history of this band. Of course we're curious, but then there are a lot of people curious about how Angie got Brad away from Jen. It's really not that much different.

[Rockindeano]

Good post!

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Guys, what do you feel there is to gain, for us or the band, by knowing the "behind the music" details? I'm as curious as anyone about them, but I don't think they'll make one bit of difference in the results. Maybe it would give you more reason to blame Steve for.....something....., but what would you blame him for? For being in the band in the first place? Well, we probably wouldn't be here talking about the band if he hadn't. For not being in the band anymore? You're happy with the current band, right? For ROR, he couldn't have done what some of you think of as such a horrendous thing without Neal and Jon going along with it(remember what Smitty said?). For keeping the band hanging in '87? As I understand it they could have chosen to go with another singer then, if he was such a pain in the ass to them they didn't have to let him come back.

There were a lot of what some of us would, for our own reasons, consider to be mistakes made over the history of this band. Of course we're curious, but then there are a lot of people curious about how Angie got Brad away from Jen. It's really not that much different.

No, not different at all. What a stupid fucking analogy. I didn't spend thousands of dollars to see Brad bone Jen, or go to Brad's awful movies. They weren't the soundtrack to my life, or any of the other 10 million Journey fans either....There IS a difference.

I DO want to know the reason he had the nerve to lie about "stuff" and hold "my band" hostage for 10 yrs. If this prick hadn't acted like a fucking child, Journey would have continued along, and not been a victim to the bullshit that 10 yrs of lying and skepticism brought on.

You Loons defend the need to ask him the truth because you know that if the truth ever did come out of his mouth, you would all be embarrassed...

Like I said before..Perry is irrelevant today....

[ohsherrie]

That excuse doesn't hold water, NIG.
Jeb from classicrockrevisited.com is also a pretty emphatic Augeri-era fan.

I don't know anything about classicrockrevisited.com, I'd never heard of it until this interview was posted. Does it have a messageboard?

You won't like it. They are favourable to Journey. (The present day version). The real Journey.

I wasn't thinking about moving Dean, I like it here , I know you guys are delighted to hear that.

I was just wondering if the tone of the messageboards could have an impact on what's happening to Andrew in regard to the interview. Are they as blatantly anti-Perry(and Perry fans)as this one has been at times? I don't mean that should reflect on Andrew in any way, and I'm not trying to make any points for Perryfandom, I'm just trying to figure it out. I WANT AN ANDREW/PERRY INTERVIEW!!!!

[Andrew]

I think Perry simply gave Sony a list of media that he will not do interviews with, and you, Andrew, are on that list because you support the current lineup. You yourself told us Perry feels that way about you.

That excuse doesn't hold water, NIG.
Jeb from classicrockrevisited.com is also a pretty emphatic Augeri-era fan.

I think it's a more viable excuse than you give credit for NC. I broke the Perry is out news and it is a view held among some that I allow this forum to be anti-Perry intentionally.

That last fact of course is complete BS....I just try and stay on the sidelines and let the fans that want to discuss anything and everything do so...it's just that sometimes this is not done respectfully.

[Rockindeano]

I was just wondering if the tone of the messageboards could have an impact on what's happening to Andrew in regard to the interview. Are they as blatantly anti-Perry(and Perry fans)as this one has been at times? I don't mean that should reflect on Andrew in any way, and I'm not trying to make any points for Perryfandom, I'm just trying to figure it out. I WANT AN ANDREW/PERRY INTERVIEW!!!!

What the Fuck? Andrew is not one of us. He let's us express our true feelings, unlike Back Talk. We are not Andrew, and Andrew is not us. If Perry's camp is afraid to be interviewed by Andrew because of this message board, he can go lick my dogs balls. Who needs him anyway?

Now if I was the one who was interviewing perry, then I might understand. What, is he a big pussy or what? He relies on you girls to defend him... Look, if Andrew interviews him, he does. if he doesn't, he doesn't. I don't think Andrew lays awake at night hoping for an interview with a washed up singer. I have a feeling Andrew will ask REAL questions rather than softballs..

[Andrew]

I was just wondering if the tone of the messageboards could have an impact on what's happening to Andrew in regard to the interview.

In a word yes. I believe it is hindering in my attampts to get a Perry interview.

[Rockindeano]

I think it's a more viable excuse than you give credit for NC. I broke the Perry is out news and it is a view held among some that I allow this forum to be anti-Perry intentionally.
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It's "anti Perry" for a reason. He deserves it.

[Rockindeano]

In a word yes. I believe it is hindering in my attampts to get a Perry interview.

Do you want me and TNC to go back and edit all our 3950 posts?

[PROPERRY]

Oh I see because I don't jump on your band wagon & choose not to say unkindly things about Perry on this board & because I defended somone who is being "verbally abused" by another poster here. You derived from all that, that I think Perry is a saint.

Not what I said. I said your posts here have little to do with music...EVER. The majority of your posts are simply in defense of Perry and your friends. I never said anything about how you feel about Perry.

I just feel Perry is bashed too much on this board & I'm NOT into bashing him, nor am I bashing the current members of Journey either. I'll keep stating kindly things about Perry, whether you or Deano or anyone else likes it or not.

Well, what you consider "bashing" is usually ACCURATE discussion about Perry. It is ok to support him and it is OK to 'come to his defense' but when are you actually going to talk about the music without it solely being in defense of Perry? And if you would just be realistic about Perry then and now, you would see that the people you claim are bashing Perry are/were also fans of his. If you are looking for differences, it is the fact that Perry's "actions" SUCKED and some people take notice of that. You will find that everyone on this board was a fan of Perry's voice and talent. But his actions many times over-shadow that. And since some of us are able to continue supporting the band, Perry's actions become the topic of much debate. Since his actions directly relate to the band moving on.

You see unlike you Jrnyman, I don't stand around (so to speak) when a bully is attacking someone else on the board for simply stating their own views & opinions in a respectful manner. I believe in speaking up, not staying silent.

Do you EVER read anybody else's posts on this board? There are certainly times when posts go over the line and I have said something from time to time. I have said it about HOTS', I have said it about Deano's, I have said it about TNC's, I have said it about PF's, and I have apologized for mine...If it bothers me, I say so. But, I have also learned that A) Andrew can and will take care of it; and B) there is this cool PM Function that I am trying to remember using a little more often. It doesn't have to be board business, I am trying to remember that, you should too.

By the way Andrew stated he was "out of line" for his behavior, but you took sides, AFTER Andrew got involved & blamed the person who was being attacked.

Lori

Where did I "take sides"? (BTW, I have decided there should be no "sides" here, it is all personal opinion. If I am on a side, it is MY side.) Where did Andrew say anyone was out of line? I see he did that AFTER your post but not before.

Jrnyman,

So what your saying is , it's ok when YOU respond to a post that you are bothered by, but it is wrong for me to respond to a post that I'm bothered by?

And it is ok, when you ALL defend the current line up for someone knocking them , but wrong for me, when I defend Perry for those of you that knock him? Sounds like alot of hypocritcy to me on your part Jrnyman.


And Yes, I've read all your post that whine that Perry hurt the band, He said this, or he did that, he didn't answer the questions in the right way, or he should have answered this way, or that way. Some complaining that he does not do enough for the fans. The list just goes on & on & on..... it never ends!!!


In case you have not figured it out by now, I 'm not interested in all that crap, the way you & some others are here. I don't find it to be all that important to me because it has NOTHING to do with me as a fan. I just love the music of Journey WITH Perry!!!!


So Jrnyman, why don't you start TALKING about the music yourself & stop whining & complaining about all the questions Perry has not answered for you.

Lori

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think it's a more viable excuse than you give credit for NC. I broke the Perry is out news and it is a view held among some that I allow this forum to be anti-Perry intentionally.

I guess that makes sense.
But as I said, Jeb is also an Augeri-supporter. Why would Perry oblige Jeb's requests, but not your's?
All because you were the guy that broke the story of his firing?
Man, talk about holding a grudge.
If that's true, it sounds like Perry is the one in dire need of getting a life.

[Andrew]

NC - I have not idea. I can't really speculate.

Deano - ease up a little please - you express yourself in a very colourful way, but I really would like this forum to be one of as high standards as possible.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The list just goes on & on & on..... it never ends!!!

It's breadth doesn't make Perry's litanny of damnable sins any less true.

[Rockindeano]

Jrnyman,

And it is ok, when you ALL defend the current line up for someone knocking them , but wrong for me, when I defend Perry for those of you that knock him? Sounds like alot of hypocritcy to me on your part Jrnyman.

Relax Dave, I got this.... Lori, are you dizzy from all the spinning you are doing?
. We defend the band, because you all knock the Hell out of them with NO valid arguments or facts. You needlessly put down the band because Perry is not in it. I knock Perry for his actions. I am ALWAYS specific. So is TNC, NIGGY and 13.

And Yes, I've read all your post that whine that Perry hurt the band, He said this, or he did that, he didn't answer the questions in the right way, or he should have answered this way, or that way. Some complaining that he does not do enough for the fans. The list just goes on & on & on..... it never ends!!!

It would end if the Loons wouldn't come in here and re-stir the pot up. If Perry would come clean, that would be that. Until then, we are left to skepticism. You Loons don't want the questions answered or even asked because the truth would embarrass you. It's like being a fan of OJ's and then finding out he murdered someone..would you still be a fan?(I'm not saying Perry is a murderer, but his appeal would surely drop).

In case you have not figured it out by now, I 'm not interested in all that crap, the way you & some others are here. I don't find it to be all that important to me because it has NOTHING to do with me as a fan. I just love the music of Journey WITH Perry!!!!

Whatever, Lori. Just be glad that there is a gag order in place. And if perry has nothing to hide, he should come out and disclose it all. Make peace in the Journey extended family. But he is a liar, and won't so fans like me and others who this is important to, will have to do with arguing with you freaks.

So Jrnyman, why don't you start TALKING about the music yourself & stop whining & complaining about all the questions Perry has not answered for you

28 is always talking about music. He is constantly talking about Generations, 13, and Arrival as well as the Perry era. See, if you Loonies could get beyond 1986, you could actually have something "new" to talk about. One would think that after repeating your defence of perry, you would get more polished..but, alas, you all keep getting your asses torched, and it will continue until you move on. It really is funny to see tho.

[Rockindeano]

NC - I have not idea. I can't really speculate.

Deano - ease up a little please - you express yourself in a very colourful way, but I really would like this forum to be one of as high standards as possible.

What? Are you serious? You want it to be "gayer," "a little gay" or "Backtalk gay?"

It's too late to change Perry's narrow mind. This board will have to be renamed and most of us kicked off for him to give you an interview. We are more important to you than he is..

Think about it.

PS- are you coming to Illinois or not?

[Rockindeano]

but I really would like this forum to be one of as high standards as possible.

Easy solution. Kill the Thin Lizzy forum, and rename it Steve Perry. Problem solved.

[perryfaithful]

I was just wondering if the tone of the messageboards could have an impact on what's happening to Andrew in regard to the interview.

In a word yes. I believe it is hindering in my attampts to get a Perry interview.

Geez Andrew....I suggested this as a problem when we discussed this months ago and was given a serious pile of SHIT! Talk to me!

[Andrew]

What? Are you serious? You want it to be "gayer," "a little gay" or "Backtalk gay?"

It's too late to change Perry's narrow mind. This board will have to be renamed and most of us kicked off for him to give you an interview. We are more important to you than he is..

Think about it.

PS- are you coming to Illinois or not?

LOL...your replies -

Well, not gay, but a little more restrained at times please! I'm not looking to change the identity this board has...just keeping it in check.

And no, I'm not going anywhere right now - sorry mate. Wife is only 4 weeks from our due date. I'm pretty busy right now!

[Rockindeano]

Geez Andrew....I suggested this as a problem when we discussed this months ago and was given a serious pile of SHIT! Talk to me!

Andrew actually sent you a pile of shit? That is kind of juvenile, Andrew. bad wombat.

[Marabelle]

i don't know why any one would want to interview him or why he would want to be interviewed by any other besides those who are seemingly neutral yet friendly. it seems the purpose of some would be to chastise him for whatever you think he has done. put his feet to the fire and have him proclaim his sins. i don't know who would be more stupid, you or him, to think he would want to sit down and have a talk. he's promoting the Journey dvd; not doing a reality show and trying to be humilated and drilled on his reasons for turning his back on the band. you didn't lose any money because of his decision; you might have saved yourself money by not buying any music or attending any concerts.

[Rockindeano]

In all seriousness, what exactly is perry's problem? I see that Augeri, Schon, Castranova, Valory and Cain all did interviews with Andrew. There is a lot of anti-Journey on here too, if you think about it. I can name at least 6 people who bash the band, yet they did what the fans wanted them to do.

So Perry cannot differentiate between some guys who think of him as a *****, but Journey the band, the entire band can?

HMmmm.

[Rockindeano]

he's promoting the Journey dvd; not doing a reality show and trying to be humilated and drilled on his reasons for turning his back on the band. you didn't lose any money because of his decision; you might have saved yourself money by not buying any music or attending any concerts.

I don't want to drill him, or scream him down, Marabelle. I would calmly ask him questions other than the soft ones he took last time..thats all.

Secondly, about saving money by not having to pay to see the band in the 10 year hiatus..Uh, I would have gladly paid to see Him with Journey...Never said the guy wasn't great..because he was...he was the best.

[Greg]

Who on here said they expected Perry to own up to anything.
Nobody did that.
I don't know what you are referring to.

The point was raised that they wished someone would ask Perry exactly what went down about TBF and his hip, and my response is, what the heck is that going to prove? Even if someone asked Perry, "Did you fake your hip injury?" are we stupid enough to believe that he is going to say, "yeah I did!"