Styx and Foreigner?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Do you know if the Four Tops are the longest lasting band with their original members??

Any bands that come close to that at all?

Jimmy wrote:

Usually if NO originals survive and no key members from the hit days are there, I'd rather it be called "tribute to" And the ones who just pull together(with members that had absolutely NO connection at all) to take advantage of legal questions of name ownership are outright IMPOSTERS in my opinion.

So Molly Hatchet would fall into this for sure. What about Little River Band, any "original" members left?

[Angiekay]

Do you know if the Four Tops are the longest lasting band with their original members??

Any bands that come close to that at all?

ZZ Top....37 years.

[styxfanNH]

By this definition, this means that Styx has been a coverband since the Equinox Tour when Tommy stepped in for JC.

The problem is that as members come and go, they all leave something to the music they played on and to some extent would have the right to play it or other songs they were associated with.

And it still amazes me how many dismiss the talents of those that don't sing lead on the song. All members contribute to the overall product.

I'm not saying that there isn't a certain recognition of a song by its lead singer. But there is a certain access to a song that all members should have access to at some level when they are a member of a band.

Even Glen's songs that he wrote and Styx recorded were re-recorded by Glen as a solo artist. Does that make Glen a coverband of himself? Just a thought.

[jimmy19029]

ZZ Top actually had two other guys(Lanier Grieg and Dan Mitchell) before Dusty and Frank that played on their first single Salt Lick in 1969. But Dusty & Frank joined in 1970 and were on the first album. I guess you'd technically call them original, certainly KEY members.
Little River Band has no originals but Stephen Housden has been there since 1981 and Wayne, who plays bass, sang lead on two of their hits, Night Owls and Take It Easy On Me. I don't discount them as legitimate like alot of LRB fans do. They continue to put out great music and give great shows.
The original guitarist(Dave Hlubek) just rejoined Molly Hatchet. But they had no originals for almost 10 years before that.
I can't think of any others that lasted as long as the Four Tops with no changes in personell.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I had no idea about the guys in ZZ Top. I guess it's a similar situation like with Rush and the original drummer.

I remember Monker talking about LRB, I was going to go back and find his post. I didn't think there were any original members in the current line up.

Thanks Jimmy

[jimmy19029]

Rush even had a bass player named Jeff Jones who played a few weeks or so before he quit and Geddy took over. They also had another guy named Lindy Young who joined in late 1968 to early 1969 who sang and played keyboards and guitar.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Now THAT I never knew about Rush. See I learn something new every day !!

[DerriD]

I guess what is considered original can vary from person to person. For me, the members that make the name household are the key members. For others it may be who was there even as far back as the garage days. Fleetwood Mac is REALLY convoluted then. They've had about three different phases. For them there's the original Blues band and the 'Classic' Rumours line-up. More than a little grey area to be sure.

[Angiekay]

EVERY band had a garage start with other members but both ZZ Top and Rush(with the exception of Rutsey)started as their NAMED band with original members.

[froy]

EVERY band had a garage start with other members but both ZZ Top and Rush(with the exception of Rutsey)started as their NAMED band with original members.

U2 is still in tact

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Okay, so this Kelly Hansen kid that is singing with Foreigner used to sing with the band Hurricane.

I had to look him up. And he also sang "Grand Illusion" and "Fooling Yourself" on the Styx tribute album??? Did anyone here that one? It was released in 2002. Do you think Kelly will go up on stage with Styx and sing with them???? LOL

[ChicagoSTYX]

And Froy played the xylophone in TW4 in the mid 60’s

[SuiteMadameBlue]

ChicagoStyx wrote:

And Froy played the xylophone in TW4 in the mid 60’s

LOL and don't forget the cowbell with Tradewinds -

[DarrenUK]

And the spoons with Neil Diamond...

[DerriD]

... and I have often wondered who played the cowbell on the first Motley Crue album. It seems that has now been answered.

[DeeJaySTYX]

Okay, so this Kelly Hansen kid that is singing with Foreigner used to sing with the band Hurricane.

I had to look him up. And he also sang "Grand Illusion" and "Fooling Yourself" on the Styx tribute album??? Did anyone here that one? It was released in 2002. Do you think Kelly will go up on stage with Styx and sing with them???? LOL

Yes, I have the Styx tribute album..

[styxmike]

Ihave the tribute cd too!!!!! Kelly sounds ok
I saw Kelly live with Stuart Smith at the "Gods" festival in Wigan a while back (2000 i think) was really impressed by the guy, great frontman

[Monker]

Even Glen's songs that he wrote and Styx recorded were re-recorded by Glen as a solo artist. Does that make Glen a coverband of himself? Just a thought.

It depends...many of those songs were written, and even performed, by Glen before he even joined Styx. Guess Styx was actually covering Glen's solo songs.

[Monker]

Wayne, who plays bass, sang lead on two of their hits, Night Owls and Take It Easy On Me.

That's propaganda. Wayne only sang lead on ONE LRB 'hit', "Night Owls". The 'hit' of "Take It Easy On Me" was sang by Glen Shorrock...Wayne only sings on the bridge. There is some alternate version that has Wayne on lead so that is where they get that from...

Also, as for "Night Owls", Beeb could have EASILY sang that song, and DOES with BSG and sounds great. Don't know why they gave the song to Wayne to sing. I bet they regret it a bit now.

I don't discount them as legitimate like alot of LRB fans do. They continue to put out great music and give great shows.

I think many LRB fans discount them because of Housden taking them to court over the name...kinda like some other guy we all know. If Housden would have allowed BSG to reference their heritage in LRB, then maybe more fans would have accepted both entities.

It would be as if JY and Tommy quit Styx and Gowan inherited the name...So, he hires two new guys and tours as Styx. Then, a few years later, Dennis, Tommy and JY get back together but can't say they are the voices of Styx because Gowan takes them to court - and wins.

That is what happened to LRB...abreviated.

[Monker]

ChicagoStyx wrote:

And Froy played the xylophone in TW4 in the mid 60’s

LOL and don't forget the cowbell with Tradewinds -

I thought it was Loverboy. At least the band name fits.

[jimmy19029]

That's correct Monker. I just meant he sang part of the lead(the bridge) I knew Glenn sang most of it. In concert Wayne always sang the whole thing. I heard that Glenn and the others were sort of on the outs at that time. Glenn didn't turn up for some of the sessions for Time Exposure so they had Wayne lead sing on Night Owls and Take It Easy On Me(the whole song) Glenn came back and was a bit annoyed(What am I doing here if he's lead singing?) They had Glenn's lead replace Wayne's on Take It Easy, except for the bridge, but decided to leave Wayne's vocal on Night Owls since they liked it so much.
His voice is pretty similar to Beeb's. I thought it was Beeb when I first heard it. And Beeb does do a great job of singing it on the Birtles Shorrock Goble project

[jimmy19029]

[quote="Angiekay"][b][color=purple][size=15]

EVERY band had a garage start with other members but both ZZ Top and Rush(with the exception of Rutsey)started as their NAMED band with original members.


A majority did start in the garage with other members. According to the Rush biogs I read they were actually called Rush when that other guy(Jeff Jones) was there before Geddy and did continue under that name when that fourth guy Lindy Young briefly joined. They had another fourth guy, Mitch Bossi, briefly in 1971 but were always morecomfortable as a trio.

You're right though, no one would ever call Geddy and Neil replacement members or non-original since it was they who were there when Rush's career truly began(after one album with Rutsey)