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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:27 am

Another excellent article in my book :)


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Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:39 AM CDT

DeYoung Takes Pride In Career With Styx

By Scott Smith

TIMES RECORD • SSMITH@SWTIMES.COM

Infighting has fractured countless bands, long before VH1’s “Behind the Music” series was ever pitched to TV executives.

Lines drawn in the sand within groups have caused fans to pick sides on occasion, and Chicago-born Styx is one of the premiere examples of a band — and its fans — scuffling years after the drawing of first blood. Second only, possibly, to the on-again, off-again Roger Waters-David Gilmour feud, the split down Styx’s middle between co-founder, keyboardist and singer Dennis DeYoung and his former bandmates came to a head almost a decade ago. The wound is still sore.

Styx continues to tour and release compact discs as a hard-rock band fronted by original guitarist James Young and longtime guitarist Tommy Shaw, while DeYoung soldiers on as a solo artist. The guys in Styx now are happy to sidestep some of DeYoung’s hit ballads on their set lists and focus more on the heavier LP numbers. DeYoung is delighted to do whatever he pleases without the headache of venturing through a committee.

He’s able to do things like performing the bulk of his hit singles — those created within Styx and during his 22-year solo career — with a symphony orchestra. DeYoung and his solo band will perform part of their “Music of Styx Tour” with the North Arkansas Symphony at 6 p.m. July 21 at the Arkansas Music Pavilion, next to the Northwest Arkansas Mall in Fayetteville.

“This show will have all of those songs that people still hear on the radio,” DeYoung said during a recent telephone interview. “A lot of the songs I’ve written have somehow finagled their way into people’s hearts. It really is amazing.”

Boasting such Styx cornerstones as “Come Sail Away,” “The Best of Times,” “Light Up,” “Rockin’ the Paradise,” “Show Me the Way,” “Lady,” “Babe,” “Mr. Roboto” and “Suite Madame Blue,” the unique show originated from an idea by DeYoung’s manager about seven years ago. DeYoung then staged a symphonic version of a Styx concert for PBS-TV’s “Sound Stage Series” in 2000. DeYoung’s taped performance, which was the “Sound Stage” pilot, has raised almost $1.7 million for public television since its initial airing.

“The ‘Music of Styx’ compact disc is a platinum album in Canada,” said the 59-year-old DeYoung. “Man, I’m old and I have a platinum album. Can you believe it?”

DeYoung considers himself fortunate that his vocals, an example of the best voice-preservation job this side of Paul Rodgers, still sound the way they did back in 1981.

“My voice, it’s because of wearing thong underwear, two sizes too small,” DeYoung joked. “Really, I never drank and I never smoked. My wife, Suzanne, took care of me. We’ve been married for 36 years.”

DeYoung said it’s a dream to perform his “Music of Styx” show, and he embraces a natural buzz while his ears carefully balance the sound of his stage monitors and the cheers of his audience.

“I just played The Hummingbird, which is the place in Toronto, and then somewhere called Rice Lake, Wis., and a lot of the people in those audiences were younger than 25,” he said. “And they knew the words to ‘Mr. Roboto’ and ‘Come Sail Away.’ My songs have been used in at least 20 different TV programs and 14 different movies. I’m astonished by that, and I’m grateful for all of the support over the years.”

DeYoung freely discusses his love for theater, a passion that formed the backbone of Styx’s 1981 concept album, “Paradise Theater.” However, his desire for larger-than-life rock eventually threw a wall between him and some of his Styx bandmates.

“I loved singers like Roy Orbison, Johnny Mathis and Gene Pitney, and Jerry Lee Lewis’ ‘Great Balls of Fire’ was great,” DeYoung said. “And I love show business, baby. The theatrical part with Styx, that was about making us not look like Lynyrd Skynyrd. Lynyrd Skynyrd did their thing, and they were great, so we had to decide what we were going to do.”

DeYoung’s theatrical flair was an extension of his influences, even when critics and punk rock fans fiercely opposed Styx’s sound and success — DeYoung and company scored six consecutive multi-platinum-selling albums with “Crystal Ball,” “The Grand Illusion,” “Pieces of Eight,” “Cornerstone,” “Paradise Theater” and “Kilroy Was Here” between 1976 and 1983, and were named the Most Popular Band in America in a 1979 Gallup poll.

“If you look at Elvis Presley, Little Richard and Chuck Berry, they had show business in mind, too,” DeYoung said. “Elvis’ gold-lame suit? That didn’t come from J.C. Penney. There was a little bit of show business in all of that.”

As for the tension that still resides between DeYoung and Styx, the former is polite when addressing the conflict.

“I worked hard since I was 17 to convince the public that Styx was a good name,” DeYoung said. “Then, suddenly, I couldn’t use the name again after 1999. But I’ve been out there now, and not that DeYoung is a bad choice.

“And I never tire of the songs I play,” he added. “You play a few notes and people scream. If you tire of that, then just stay home. I can’t tire of that. The people sing with me at the shows.”

While touring with Styx, DeYoung would become ill after running through two-hour sets. He eventually discovered that he suffers from what he calls “light sensitivity,” a condition in which his skin can’t tolerate bright lights and hot temperatures. Once diagnosed, DeYoung had to say farewell to the piercing spotlights of large-scale tours, but his statement seemingly fell on deaf ears in the Styx camp.

“A Styx reunion, really, is up to (Shaw and Young),” he said. “I’ve been open to it.”

In a strange twist, Glen Burtnik, who was Styx’s second bassist, is now playing guitar in DeYoung’s solo band.

“Hey, you have two guys over there now in Styx, and you have two guys — Glen and I — over here, so there you have it,” DeYoung said. “I think we’re doing good. Glen is happy to be with me.”

When asked what part of Styx’s history matters the most, DeYoung answered without hesitation.

“‘The Grand Illusion’ album, without a doubt in my mind, and its single, ‘Come Sail Away,’” he said. “Come on, who is Styx? When people ask that in 200 years, they will play ‘Come Sail Away.’ That song is energetic and it has the artsy-fartsy part in the middle, and there’s the ballad-part beginning. ‘Come Sail Away’ has it all. That song is Styx.”
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Postby Jodes » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:43 am

While touring with Styx, DeYoung would become ill after running through two-hour sets. He eventually discovered that he suffers from what he calls “light sensitivity,” a condition in which his skin can’t tolerate bright lights and hot temperatures. Once diagnosed, DeYoung had to say farewell to the piercing spotlights of large-scale tours, but his statement seemingly fell on deaf ears in the Styx camp.


Umm didn't the light sensitivity start AFTER a reaction to dental surgery in like 1998, well after the tours were finished?

I know that Dennis was exhausted after the 97 tour (flying back and forth between tour dates and Nashville) but we never did hear anything about his condition until 98 correct?
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:48 am

I actually thought it was brought upon having the flu and continued as a virus. I'm not sure on the dates, thought in 1998 that it was pretty much full blown. Sadie & Bugsy I think were there when he talked to us about it. Or it's on the tape that I have. I know it's somewhere, but I can't remember.
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Postby whocares » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:56 am

We'll never know the truth about the "light" scandal as it were.

But I will say that this Concert is well worth going to. I saw it last year. The best Concert I'd seen in years. I could do without the wife coming and going on stage to sing backups occasionally, but that's neither here nor there. The best part isn't him playing Styx songs, (only ones that he wrote or co-wrote as you can imagine), but the Desert Moons and other solo songs that were never performed in Styx shows. (Every band that has one or two people doing solo material on the side, plays one of their songs eventually.)

Dennis' voice never sounded better to me personally and what a hell of a "show".

John Waite opening acoustically and with only a guitar player was quite nice as well. btw.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:02 am

Hey WhoCares, you know what?? I Care - LOL

I love John Waite and I thought he still had an amazing voice too! I saw Dennis about 16 times and each time was an amazing show, except when he was sick in Chicago, but he still was awesome when he sang "Back To Chicago"!!

If a Dennis article is posted, someone will always find a fault or something evne though this article was a pretty positive one. If a JY article is posted, then there are more posts due to his negativity from a few sides. If a Tommy article is posted then you get Froy on him and poor Ricky, you get Froy on him.
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Postby sadie65 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:02 am

Jodes wrote:While touring with Styx, DeYoung would become ill after running through two-hour sets. He eventually discovered that he suffers from what he calls “light sensitivity,” a condition in which his skin can’t tolerate bright lights and hot temperatures. Once diagnosed, DeYoung had to say farewell to the piercing spotlights of large-scale tours, but his statement seemingly fell on deaf ears in the Styx camp.


Umm didn't the light sensitivity start AFTER a reaction to dental surgery in like 1998, well after the tours were finished?

I know that Dennis was exhausted after the 97 tour (flying back and forth between tour dates and Nashville) but we never did hear anything about his condition until 98 correct?


Stepping out of lurk mode here.

Dennis has given both versions as reasons for the light sensitivity that developed. I tend to believe that it was a mixture of run down health due to all of his projects and time constraints, then getting hit with the flu and perhaps that then being exascerbated by going to the dentist. I fall into the camp that believes he does indeed suffer from the malady.

The article was quite nice to read, and I appreciate Suite taking the time to post it.

Stepping back into lurk mode now.

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Postby whocares » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:08 am

I agree.

I love Tommy Shaw, met him and he's a very nice guy (to me). The shirt he autographed is still hanging over there (pointing across the room). As for Ricky, I really like him too, ever since he was in The Baby's and later Bad English. Honestly my opinion is that JY is bitter still, and he's a good guitar player, and works well in Styx. 'nuff said.

While I don't care to see the current line-up of Styx (after I did twice, just to make sure hehehe). I'm glad there are people whos till support them no matter what. I won't trash them. They are trying and they are keeping lots of Styx fans happy. So is Dennis with his shows. If you odn't like one, you can go see the other. Even if Dennis' shows aren't exactly on the cheap side.
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Postby Ash » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:15 am

nice article.... seems to fudge a few things - but that seems to be all the rage these days in journalism
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Postby whocares » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:30 am

Yeah well, as they say, there's no truth in advertisement anymore. Journalism is a subjective term I think. Like calling a Blog, Journalism. You are always getting the ahem for lack of a better term, "author's" slant on things.
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Postby redSG » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:56 am

whocares wrote:While I don't care to see the current line-up of Styx (after I did twice, just to make sure hehehe). I'm glad there are people whos till support them no matter what. I won't trash them. They are trying and they are keeping lots of Styx fans happy. So is Dennis with his shows. If you odn't like one, you can go see the other. Even if Dennis' shows aren't exactly on the cheap side.


Couldn't agree with you more. I'm a bit of the flip side of you, I think. I'm not too keen about the thought of seeing DDY's shows, but I don't really find the need to trash the guy. He has written some great stuff, and he makes a lot of people happy by touring and playing those tunes. It's always crap when a favorite band has splits, but I don't care for the extreme taking sides thing. Like you said, if you don't like one, go for the other--but, please, don't insult the people who go to either or both.

By the way, I think that's a good article about Dennis.
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:14 am

whocares wrote:I agree.

I love Tommy Shaw, met him and he's a very nice guy (to me). The shirt he autographed is still hanging over there (pointing across the room). As for Ricky, I really like him too, ever since he was in The Baby's and later Bad English. Honestly my opinion is that JY is bitter still, and he's a good guitar player, and works well in Styx. 'nuff said.

While I don't care to see the current line-up of Styx (after I did twice, just to make sure hehehe). I'm glad there are people whos till support them no matter what. I won't trash them. They are trying and they are keeping lots of Styx fans happy. So is Dennis with his shows. If you odn't like one, you can go see the other. Even if Dennis' shows aren't exactly on the cheap side.


Neither show is a cheap ticket. But I like both of their shows.
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:28 am

sadie65 wrote:
Jodes wrote:While touring with Styx, DeYoung would become ill after running through two-hour sets. He eventually discovered that he suffers from what he calls “light sensitivity,” a condition in which his skin can’t tolerate bright lights and hot temperatures. Once diagnosed, DeYoung had to say farewell to the piercing spotlights of large-scale tours, but his statement seemingly fell on deaf ears in the Styx camp.


Umm didn't the light sensitivity start AFTER a reaction to dental surgery in like 1998, well after the tours were finished?

I know that Dennis was exhausted after the 97 tour (flying back and forth between tour dates and Nashville) but we never did hear anything about his condition until 98 correct?


Stepping out of lurk mode here.

Dennis has given both versions as reasons for the light sensitivity that developed. I tend to believe that it was a mixture of run down health due to all of his projects and time constraints, then getting hit with the flu and perhaps that then being exascerbated by going to the dentist. I fall into the camp that believes he does indeed suffer from the malady.

The article was quite nice to read, and I appreciate Suite taking the time to post it.

Stepping back into lurk mode now.

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Hey Sadie, where you been, I stopped posting cause you did :wink: , I have been busy following the Journey wars, the lippers vs the non-lippers (for lack of a better word).
I agree with you, plus didn't Dennis dad pass away around this time? That can wear anyone done even more.
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:35 am

It was the uncertainty of what Dennis had and how long it would take to cure that was the last straw for Tommy and JY. Of course there were other issues.

In Suzanne's last Crib, she said Dennis still suffers from it and they leave the shades down in the house.
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Postby bugsymalone » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:35 pm

Abitaman wrote:
sadie65 wrote:

Stepping out of lurk mode here.

Dennis has given both versions as reasons for the light sensitivity that developed. I tend to believe that it was a mixture of run down health due to all of his projects and time constraints, then getting hit with the flu and perhaps that then being exascerbated by going to the dentist. I fall into the camp that believes he does indeed suffer from the malady.

The article was quite nice to read, and I appreciate Suite taking the time to post it.

Stepping back into lurk mode now.

Peace


Hey Sadie, where you been, I stopped posting cause you did :wink: , I have been busy following the Journey wars, the lippers vs the non-lippers (for lack of a better word).
I agree with you, plus didn't Dennis dad pass away around this time? That can wear anyone done even more.
Good to see you back-ERIC


Hey Eric, Sadie! :D Thought I would wave at you two from a quieter thread, but I doubt it will stay that way for long. :wink:

Eric. Your picture? Niiiiice! Hope all is going well with y'all.

As to DDY around that time of his life. It was a bad time for him in many ways, not that it much mattered to anyone but him and his family and some of his true friends.

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Re: DDY - Article 06-29-2006 You'll love this one!

Postby Zan » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:39 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:My wife, Suzanne, took care of me. We’ve been married for 36 years.”



You know, I'm really glad this was included. I never get tired of hearing it. lol


“I worked hard since I was 17 to convince the public that Styx was a good name,” DeYoung said.




Wow, since Dennis was 17? I thought he was in his twenties when they decided on the name STYX - and only because they couldn't think of anything better. The stuff you learn...



While touring with Styx, DeYoung would become ill after running through two-hour sets. He eventually discovered that he suffers from what he calls “light sensitivity,” a condition in which his skin can’t tolerate bright lights and hot temperatures. Once diagnosed, DeYoung had to say farewell to the piercing spotlights of large-scale tours, but his statement seemingly fell on deaf ears in the Styx camp.



Or tired ears.


“A Styx reunion, really, is up to (Shaw and Young),” he said. “I’ve been open to it.”




That's what I like about Dennis - he's so open & humble.


In a strange twist, Glen Burtnik, who was Styx’s second bassist, is now playing guitar in DeYoung’s solo band.

“Hey, you have two guys over there now in Styx, and you have two guys — Glen and I — over here, so there you have it,” DeYoung said. “I think we’re doing good. Glen is happy to be with me.”



But Froy would be happier to be with him...

Nicely put...Someone should tell his publicist/management/dominetress that the tight leash is working wonders. ;-)

Seriously, Suite - one of the better articles. Hopefully if Dennis will make it to Florida with Glen sometime soon.
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:40 pm

Picture was from 2001, between our second and third child, and some hair above my lip now-ERIC
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Re: DDY - Article 06-29-2006 You'll love this one!

Postby Blue Falcon » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:46 pm

When asked what part of Styx’s history matters the most, DeYoung answered without hesitation.

“‘The Grand Illusion’ album, without a doubt in my mind, and its single, ‘Come Sail Away,’” he said. “Come on, who is Styx? When people ask that in 200 years, they will play ‘Come Sail Away.’ That song is energetic and it has the artsy-fartsy part in the middle, and there’s the ballad-part beginning. ‘Come Sail Away’ has it all. That song is Styx.”


I'll bet that JY explodes when he reads that! JY will probably come out with his own announcement in the next few days saying: "Come Sail Away was pretentious crap and I couldn't stand playing it live. Everyone knows that STYX is defined by songs like Renegade and Snowblind!" :shock:
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Postby bugsymalone » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:52 pm

Abitaman wrote:Picture was from 2001, between our second and third child, and some hair above my lip now-ERIC


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Re: DDY - Article 06-29-2006 You'll love this one!

Postby Zan » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:06 am

Blue Falcon wrote:Come Sail Away was pretentious crap and I couldn't stand playing it live. Everyone knows that STYX is defined by songs like Renegade and Snowblind!" :shock:



K, that was funny. lol
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Postby yogi » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:38 am

JY would never trash Come Sail Away. According to Tommy, it was actually he and JY who wrote that little ditty.

I thought it was a great article. Knowing Dennis would do reunion shows with JY, Tommy, & Chuck shows who the bigger man is and who really does care about the hardcore fans.

Zan soon will post that I am smoking something or still in my backstage mode. As for the backstage mode she is 100% correct. As for smoking something as much as I wish I could I get drug tested 3 to 4 times per year so thats out.

2 of the 3 REAL talents are now playing with Dennis. I will stick by my dime a dozen comments regarding JY and Chuck. Kyle can give Todd a pretty good run for the money on the drums.

It is time to put Dennis, Tommy, JY, Chuck, Glen and Todd back on the same stage together. These are the six surviving members that own the Styx history.

Until then enjoy BOTH shows!!!
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Postby Zan » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:42 am

yogi wrote:JY would never trash Come Sail Away. According to Tommy, it was actually he and JY who wrote that little ditty.

I thought it was a great article. Knowing Dennis would do reunion shows with JY, Tommy, & Chuck shows who the bigger man is and who really does care about the hardcore fans.



That's exactly the way he wants to make it seem, yes.


Zan soon will post that I am smoking something or still in my backstage mode. As for the backstage mode she is 100% correct.



It's obvious. lol
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Postby Blue Falcon » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:02 am

yogi wrote:JY would never trash Come Sail Away. According to Tommy, it was actually he and JY who wrote that little ditty.



Actually the way JY has been raging the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if he 1) claims that Come Sail Away was not only written by him & Tommy, but one of them actually sang lead vocals on it, and 2) claims he's never heard of anyone named Dennis DeYoung.

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Postby shaka » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:21 am

yogi wrote:Kyle can give Todd a pretty good run for the money on the drums.


No offense but if Kyle is same guy that is on Dennis' DVD then he can't hold a candle to Todd. I watched that DVD several times and he's an average drummer. His performance was spotty in places.

Todd is flat out one of the best drummers in rock right now.
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Postby froy » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:24 am

shaka wrote:
yogi wrote:Kyle can give Todd a pretty good run for the money on the drums.


No offense but if Kyle is same guy that is on Dennis' DVD then he can't hold a candle to Todd. I watched that DVD several times and he's an average drummer. His performance was spotty in places.



I agree Kyle is good but not better.



Todd is flat out one of the best drummers in rock right now.


Not even close
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Postby MsRobotto » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:19 am


The light sensitivity issue first became public in June 1999. I remember because I was on the mailing list at the time, and I had only joined shortly before the release of BNW, which was in June 1999.

These kinds of useless facts float around in my brain. On those rare occasions when there's a purpose for this phenomenon I just can't let it pass by unacknowledged. *lol*

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Postby MsRobotto » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:25 am

yogi wrote:JY would never trash Come Sail Away. According to Tommy, it was actually he and JY who wrote that little ditty.


Actually, as I recall that was according to Chuck, and it was in the Goldmine article in 1999.

And incidentally, there was a time when they (TS, JY, et al) were asking Dennis about returning to the band, and he "responded through my lawyer" I believe that was in the Melodicrock interview. In another article there was specific mention of his not wanting to join the tour, but Suite would have to pull it up from the list archives (it would have been around late 1999). Of course that was a long time ago and a lot may have changed since then. If so that's a good thing!

Yep, just jam packed with useless information up there. *lol*

I agree though, it's a very nice article!!

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Postby Zan » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:38 am

MsRobotto wrote:And incidentally, there was a time when they (TS, JY, et al) were asking Dennis about returning to the band, and he "responded through my lawyer" I believe that was in the Melodicrock interview. In another article there was specific mention of his not wanting to join the tour, but Suite would have to pull it up from the list archives (it would have been around late 1999). Of course that was a long time ago and a lot may have changed since then. If so that's a good thing!

Yep, just jam packed with useless information up there. *lol*

I agree though, it's a very nice article![/color]




Yes, I remember you used to quote his "They didn't/wouldn't return my calls" with his "They'd been calling me, and I responded through my lawyer" from the few months prior. It was brilliant, as many of your posts were. *g*

And no, not a lot has changed since then. lol
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Postby DarwinNebraska » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:44 am

Wow Zan... you are such a DDY hater.

It's tiresome already.
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Postby Zan » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:48 am

DarwinNebraska wrote:Wow Zan... you are such a DDY hater.

It's tiresome already.



Hate is a strong word. I think he's full of sh*t, yes. I agree, it is tiresome. You go first.
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Postby AnnieOprah » Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:40 am

Zan wrote:
DarwinNebraska wrote:Wow Zan... you are such a DDY hater.

It's tiresome already.



Hate is a strong word. I think he's full of sh*t, yes. I agree, it is tiresome. You go first.


Zan...please just give it a rest... There are many on this board who are weary of your antics...
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