DDY - Article 06-29-2006 You'll love this one!

[Monker]

You're the antiStyx energizer bunny for cryin' out loud.

Well, that changes that top 10 list. Maybe #2...I don't think it tops Moron Gay.

[Monker]

(This is not even mentioning the fact that anytime anyone posts something positive about the lineup, you jump in with the commentary. Kinda takes the enjoyment & incentive out of it.)[/color][/b]

Yep...and not only that, but it seems there are always people willing to reply to froy and basicaly destroy any positive discussion about the lineup. I gave up on it after BBT was released. It's not worth it.

[Zan]

Well I for one will not be silent about Dennis, I'm a huge fan of his! I enjoy talking about his concerts, music, etc. I love to babble about a ton of things!!

Dennis doesn't play a ton of concerts, so most of the people attending his shows never heard how many years he's been married, the a-hole story, "Castle Walls & the movie "The Exorcist" and other stories. .

I was more referring to the continuing martyrdom crap that gets mentioned at every opportunity around here...Or "The Dennis show was great - shows he really doesn't need those ingrateful bastards" type of garbage.

As far as how many years he's been married, well, The Exorcist story, the @sshole story - those have only been out for a short period of time. I know there was a quiet protest to the "dream speech" several years back among the fans, who, while always found it inspirational, thought maybe it was getting a little stale. So yes, to the casual fan, many of these diatribes are new and wonderful. But no one here is a casual fan. lol

[styxfanNH]

Now that we are well away from what was a nice article overall.....

It's the continual bashing by one member of this board about anything that STYX does that usually provokes a reaction by the masses.

You would think that Gowan took over the band and was the one that was pulling the strings.

We all pretty much agree that JY is the President of the "Open mouth insert foot" club and should stop taking shots at Dennis.

For those that like the harder side of the band, they probably didn't resonate with Dennis to begin with.

No one wants any one to stop supporting the members they support.

No one thinks that anyone is going to change anyone's opinions.

Everyone knows that at least Tommy, JY, and Chuck feel they can't work with Dennis.

Everyone knows that Dennis misses being with Styx.

Four huge egos means nobody wins including the fans!!!!

Why do some care so much as if they are being harmed personally?

Appreciate what we have, it won't be around much longer.

Back to the lovefest....

[LordofDaRing]

DDY is full of shit?? What is JY full of.. I know a parking lot full of whale vomit!!

I have to see this DDY tour, if for nothing else you guys say he has an equally if not better drummer than Todd. Damn even Froy is on board with that.

JY's bitterness is easy to see however. I think thier would be an audience for Tommy if he hit the road solo, I saw him open for Lynryd Skynrd (watch what you say bout us soutern boys Dennis) a few years ago. Dennis obviously has his following. What would a JY solo concert be like. uggghhh, I just lost my appetite. Seriously, get some class JY, or at the very least learn how to handle interviews better.

[SierraMyst]

I'm not condoning how JY handles interviews AT ALL. I think he's being immature, as I stated in another post...That said, if you flip it over and look at the other side of the coin I can't help but wonder if none of this stuff would be said if Dennis was a great guy and easy to work with. Maybe JY wouldn't mind performing Dennis ballads if he was nicer and compromised more?...Who knows...I'm just trying to see both sides.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

From what I "heard", Dennis wasn't always the most pleasant guy to work with.

BUT!!! I feel that in every group there should be a leader, you don't want people going around and around saying "what do you want to do" "no, what do you want to do" "I don't know, what do you want to do". So I feel that Dennis took it upon himself and became that leader and somewhat made final decisions. During the Cornerstone era Dennis wanted "First Time" released SO BAD, really, really bad! As everyone knows, Tommy told Dennis if he releases that song that he was going to walk. So Dennis backed off and didn't release it.

Then you look at EOTC. The record company didn't want Glen's song released as single. Dennis pleaded and pleaded and TOLD them that it WAS going to be released as a single and it was.

[AnnieOprah]

Wow Zan... you are such a DDY hater.

It's tiresome already.

Hate is a strong word. I think he's full of sh*t, yes. I agree, it is tiresome. You go first.

It's contempt... either way it's unnecessary. You don't like him... we get it... you love the current line-up... some of us don't.

No need to take shots at every turn.

She has to take shots. Its her nature...and her insecurity...

[AnnieOprah]

And incidentally, there was a time when they (TS, JY, et al) were asking Dennis about returning to the band, and he "responded through my lawyer" I believe that was in the Melodicrock interview. In another article there was specific mention of his not wanting to join the tour, but Suite would have to pull it up from the list archives (it would have been around late 1999). Of course that was a long time ago and a lot may have changed since then. If so that's a good thing!

Yep, just jam packed with useless information up there. *lol*

I agree though, it's a very nice article![/color]

Yes, I remember you used to quote his "They didn't/wouldn't return my calls" with his "They'd been calling me, and I responded through my lawyer" from the few months prior. It was brilliant, as many of your posts were. *g*

And no, not a lot has changed since then. lol

This is from an interview with Dennis from Midwest Beat Magazine.....

DeYoung said the original tour pitched by management had not been
scheduled to begin until late September and that he told Shaw and Young that
he most likely would be up to touring by fall. But, they jump-started the
tour with the revamped line up in July.


When DeYoung asked to join up with them for the fall leg of the tour as
planned, his offer was declined in a letter from their attorney. "They won't
even talk to me," he said. "We haven't spoken since they started the tour
except through our attorneys. They wrote back through their attorney that my
offer to be involved in the fall tour was 'outrageous and unacceptable at
this late date'. But the fall tour had not even been planned yet."

Great post.. Call her on her revisionist history that she likes to pull..

[AnnieOprah]

From what I "heard", Dennis wasn't always the most pleasant guy to work with.

BUT!!! I feel that in every group there should be a leader, you don't want people going around and around saying "what do you want to do" "no, what do you want to do" "I don't know, what do you want to do". So I feel that Dennis took it upon himself and became that leader and somewhat made final decisions. During the Cornerstone era Dennis wanted "First Time" released SO BAD, really, really bad! As everyone knows, Tommy told Dennis if he releases that song that he was going to walk. So Dennis backed off and didn't release it.

Then you look at EOTC. The record company didn't want Glen's song released as single. Dennis pleaded and pleaded and TOLD them that it WAS going to be released as a single and it was.

Yes, Zan conveniently forgets all the times DDY went to bat for her boy Glen...including naming the freaking album after one of his songs...

Everything was so clear for Zan for a while in her hatred for DDY since Glen had joined Tommy/JY, but then Glen left Styx (and lets be honest - it wasn't the nice breakup that it was positioned to be), and probably caused Zan some confusion...but then horror upon horror, Glen joins up with Dennis. First Zan says, "it will only be for one show"..then one show became two and two became three and three became the entire summer tour and now there are rumors that Glen will be heavily featured on Dennis's solo album and that songs from Edge 2 will be put on that album...so, what is a girl to do? The answer is that she appears to be quite confused and when one is confused, they start acting strange..So, all of a sudden we see more and more shots by Zan against Dennis. Why? because he has somehow corrupted her boy Glen and there ain't a damn thing she can do about it...

[OrlandoChris]

Annie-

What revisionist history are you refering to? The fact that DENNIS started the lawsuit? The fact that Dennis was ragging on the band during that lawsuit, calling radio station after radio station claming to be the only incarnation of Styx?

While others can claim and quite positively a friendship with the DeYoungs, what is your issue on attacking Zan? I have known her for years and we knew each other through this crap. And yes, it's crap-it's like we all are distant members of a huge family that suffered from a divorce, and we can't seem to understand that human beings have a hard time getting along. They get tired of other people, they get tired of the constant rant of people who just can't seem to get it in their heads that two groups touring are better than NOTHING. JY has a right to be bitter. Dennis has a right to be bitter. But now everyone is out making music and money. Isn't that what we the fans want?

Give it up Annie, no one is clean here.

[Zan]

Annie-

What revisionist history are you refering to? The fact that DENNIS started the lawsuit? The fact that Dennis was ragging on the band during that lawsuit, calling radio station after radio station claming to be the only incarnation of Styx?

While others can claim and quite positively a friendship with the DeYoungs, what is your issue on attacking Zan? I have known her for years and we knew each other through this crap. And yes, it's crap-it's like we all are distant members of a huge family that suffered from a divorce, and we can't seem to understand that human beings have a hard time getting along. They get tired of other people, they get tired of the constant rant of people who just can't seem to get it in their heads that two groups touring are better than NOTHING. JY has a right to be bitter. Dennis has a right to be bitter. But now everyone is out making music and money. Isn't that what we the fans want?

Give it up Annie, no one is clean here.

She's just filled with hatred and contempt - because she's so insecure. lol

[Zan]

Everything was so clear for Zan for a while in her hatred for DDY since Glen had joined Tommy/JY, but then Glen left Styx (and lets be honest - it wasn't the nice breakup that it was positioned to be), and probably caused Zan some confusion...but then horror upon horror, Glen joins up with Dennis. First Zan says, "it will only be for one show"..then one show became two and two became three and three became the entire summer tour and now there are rumors that Glen will be heavily featured on Dennis's solo album and that songs from Edge 2 will be put on that album...so, what is a girl to do? The answer is that she appears to be quite confused and when one is confused, they start acting strange..So, all of a sudden we see more and more shots by Zan against Dennis. Why? because he has somehow corrupted her boy Glen and there ain't a damn thing she can do about it...

Are you taking PCP? Seriously, what are you babbling about? Dennis is corrupting Glen? Oh no - Is Glen going to start bringing Rosie on stage and making her sing in a micro mini skirt and a wig? The "tour" started as one weekend of shows only and turned into others. *Glen* didn't even think there would be more before he played the Jersey shows. Bully for them. I'm glad the shows are a success. Why would I trash Dennis more because of Glen? That's moronic, even for you, Annie.

[StyxCollector]

Whatever bad blood Glen may have with Dennis seems to be resolved, and he's out making money. Glen may be having fun, but he's getting paid like we all want to do. The travel is easier than with Styx since DDY mainly plays only weekends. So how is that bad for Glen?

I mean, good for him if all of this works out. The guy is genuinely a nice guy and a great talent. I still think the combo of Todd + Glen as a rhythm section is amazing. Ricky is good, but Glen was better if you ask me.

[shaka]

Whatever bad blood Glen may have with Dennis seems to be resolved, and he's out making money. Glen may be having fun, but he's getting paid like we all want to do. The travel is easier than with Styx since DDY mainly plays only weekends. So how is that bad for Glen?

I mean, good for him if all of this works out. The guy is genuinely a nice guy and a great talent. I still think the combo of Todd + Glen as a rhythm section is amazing. Ricky is good, but Glen was better if you ask me.

I agree that Todd and Glen made a great rhythm section. I think losing Glen was a blow for the current Styx lineup. Glen brought a lot of energy to the band.

I think it's great that Glen and Dennis can play together as well. I think it's a great gig for a guy like Glen and leaves him a lot of freedom to pursue his songwriting.

Eric

[StyxCollector]

I think it's a great gig for a guy like Glen and leaves him a lot of freedom to pursue his songwriting.

Which is (in my opinion) one of the reasons he walked away. Not his only reason, but definitely a contributing factor. Welcome to Hollywood is a much better record overall than Cyclorama and my favorite tracks are the Glen and Gowan ones ironically enough.

Glen is not a dumb guy. Out of the whole Styx drama for the past 15 - 16 years, no one can turn Glen into a bad focal point. He's been good for all parties involved and I'm sure being in Styx and getting points on an album that sold and some derivative works like hits compilations helps him do what he loves to do.

[shaka]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

[StyxCollector]

Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

You're talking 30 years of history. I know more than I can ever say and I know *I* don't know the whole story. Each one of those guys has their own version of the truth as they see the same events through their own eyes. Chuck and John arguably made the least money since they really had no songwriting credits. So 30 years on when Styx is your only major source of income - like JY - so what are you going to do? In 1991 getting rid of Dennis may have been hard, but since Tommy was back in the fold, they proved in 1991 they can lose a major singer and still survive.

I think the book will give you insight, but no one will ever know the whole truth as the band will never write a tell all. All parties will look ugly to some degree.

[shaka]

I think it's a great gig for a guy like Glen and leaves him a lot of freedom to pursue his songwriting.

Which is (in my opinion) one of the reasons he walked away. Not his only reason, but definitely a contributing factor. Welcome to Hollywood is a much better record overall than Cyclorama and my favorite tracks are the Glen and Gowan ones ironically enough.

Glen is not a dumb guy. Out of the whole Styx drama for the past 15 - 16 years, no one can turn Glen into a bad focal point. He's been good for all parties involved and I'm sure being in Styx and getting points on an album that sold and some derivative works like hits compilations helps him do what he loves to do.

I agree with all points except I think Cyclorama was a pretty decent record. I thought there were strong contributions all around. Killing the Thing That You Love is my favorite. (Because we all know it's about Dennis right? ha ha ha Shouldn't there be some people eating crow right about now on that one?) I thought the two JY sung songs harkened back to the classic Styx days when JY would crank a couple of decent rockers per album. Captain America came up randomly on my cars iPod the other day and I got to experience the coolness of that song for the first time in a while. Rock on JY.

I'm thankful that Glen ended up with Styx because if he hadn't I'd have no idea who he was and probably wouldn't have developed an interest in his music.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Glen sit in with the current Styx lineup at some point.

[shaka]

Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

You're talking 30 years of history. I know more than I can ever say and I know *I* don't know the whole story. Each one of those guys has their own version of the truth as they see the same events through their own eyes. Chuck and John arguably made the least money since they really had no songwriting credits. So 30 years on when Styx is your only major source of income - like JY - so what are you going to do? In 1991 getting rid of Dennis may have been hard, but since Tommy was back in the fold, they proved in 1991 they can lose a major singer and still survive.

I think the book will give you insight, but no one will ever know the whole truth as the band will never write a tell all. All parties will look ugly to some degree.

I think your take is correct. The truth in this one rests somewhere in the middle. I'd wager that all involved have the ability to be petty. I think it makes sense that money may have been some of Chucks motivation. I'm sure his healthcare costs are significant. Yet, he doesn't really tour with the band. I wonder what piece of the pie he gets? If he were truly hurting for money he could have resumed his spot when Glen left.

I have a couple of industry people I communicate with occasionaly on matters of business. They know both sides and have given me some insight on the situation. I don't think it would be proper to bring up their opinions either. If I did it would be like biting the hand that feeds because they got me some killer industry passes to the last U2 tour. lol

Anyway, I like chatting with you Alan because we are both musicians.

Eric

[StyxCollector]

I think it makes sense that money may have been some of Chucks motivation. I'm sure his healthcare costs are significant. Yet, he doesn't really tour with the band. I wonder what piece of the pie he gets? If he were truly hurting for money he could have resumed his spot when Glen left.

I think health wise he couldn't tour as much as they have for 7 years ... but that aside, to get Dennis out they needed a majority. There's no way it could just be a JY or Tommy decision. Styx has been a democracy that way (legally) since 1981. So either Chuck went along willingly (plausible) or they struck a deal with him (also plausible). We will never know since I'm sure all that stuff is done very legally and are very sealed. Chuck may have even hated Dennis for whatever reason, but despite his lack of songwriting royalties and monies from it, he wasn't in "competiton" with DDY for a spotlight. Styx had 3 singers, and two were dominant. Chuck arguably would be the easiest member of the band to replace historically, even going back to the '70s. So he had and continues to have the dream job. He's not about the spotlight.

I think Chuck seemed to be smart and saved some money (interviews indicate that, whereas John spent a lot of his when he was alive). It's not DDY money, but it should be enough to live a comfortable life if invested and saved properly.

We will never know for sure.

[Zan]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Aww, thanks...and back atcha, you SMF!

Again, you have to consider the source on some things.

As far as Glen's departure from Styx, I agree with the masses. He brought a lot of good, good stuff to the linup, and it was sad to see him go. On the other hand, it was also nice to see Glen comfortable and happy again kicking back and doing what he felt he had to do. And WTH was a masterpiece (I'm still partial to Palookaville, but they both rock). I agree with Allen(!) in that the tour schedule with Dennis is more condusive for Glen, and I'm happy for Glen that they're able to make it work. Nothing more.

And I think Ricky is a fine bassist. He suits the band nicely. Is he Glen? Uh, no. But at least he doesn't set fires off stage or anything!

[AnnieOprah]

Everything was so clear for Zan for a while in her hatred for DDY since Glen had joined Tommy/JY, but then Glen left Styx (and lets be honest - it wasn't the nice breakup that it was positioned to be), and probably caused Zan some confusion...but then horror upon horror, Glen joins up with Dennis. First Zan says, "it will only be for one show"..then one show became two and two became three and three became the entire summer tour and now there are rumors that Glen will be heavily featured on Dennis's solo album and that songs from Edge 2 will be put on that album...so, what is a girl to do? The answer is that she appears to be quite confused and when one is confused, they start acting strange..So, all of a sudden we see more and more shots by Zan against Dennis. Why? because he has somehow corrupted her boy Glen and there ain't a damn thing she can do about it...

Are you taking PCP? Seriously, what are you babbling about? Dennis is corrupting Glen? Oh no - Is Glen going to start bringing Rosie on stage and making her sing in a micro mini skirt and a wig? The "tour" started as one weekend of shows only and turned into others. *Glen* didn't even think there would be more before he played the Jersey shows. Bully for them. I'm glad the shows are a success. Why would I trash Dennis more because of Glen? That's moronic, even for you, Annie.

You just really aren't that bright, aren you?

"Corrupted your boy Glen" is a sarcastic term said in an ironic manner because you are such a Glen fan and now he is off doing stuff with Dennis. Must have been quite an ordeal for you...

[AnnieOprah]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

[OrlandoChris]

Oh Annie, Annie....

You don't know her at all.

[styxfanNH]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

Don't you have to take everyones comments on here with a grain of salt?

[stmonkeys]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

jeez annie, get over it already! this is a bulletin board about a BAND.... if this has you in such a tizzy, i can imagine what the rest of your life must be like. unwad the panties. go enjoy some REAL fireworks instead of trying to ignite them here. I think the majority of us are tired of hearing aobut it... just like we're tired of the styx vs ddy ordeal from 1999. Everybody is touring. Everybody has the opportunity to see their favorites up on stage. life is pretty good isn't it.

happy 4th of july everyone!

[shaka]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

Annie, I think you need a valium. You don't have the slightest idea about Zan. I've known her for many years and she is a great person and a solid musician. So what if she thinks differently about Dennis than you do. I love Dennis but I don't think he's blameless in the saga that is Styx.

Eric

[Zan]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

Annie, I think you need a valium. You don't have the slightest idea about Zan. I've known her for many years and she is a great person and a solid musician. So what if she thinks differently about Dennis than you do. I love Dennis but I don't think he's blameless in the saga that is Styx.

Eric

Some people just need to take what Annie has to say with a grain of salt. She clearly has an agenda of anti-Zan.



P.S. Stacy - LOVE the sig pic.

[stmonkeys]

I've known Zan for a long time now and she rocks pure and simple. She calls things as she sees them and her comments are always based on a sound point of view.

Keep rockin' Zan you sexy beast you!

Oh yes, the events that led to Dennis being booted have to be more complicated than Dennis coming down with an illness and the other guys not wanting to wait. It seems to me like there were multiple power plays going on. I also think that the Tommy, JY, AND Chuck had doubts as to whether Dennis was really sick. To me, Chuck's siding with Tommy and JY speaks volumes. Chuck and Dennis go WAY back and it doesn't make sense Chuck would abandon Dennis unless there were strange things afoot. Alas, we may not know exactly what transpired. Maybe the book that's being written can shed some light.

Eric

I disagree 100%. Her points and her comments are based on an agenda that is anti-Dennis DeYoung and she goes out of her way to stretch things and imply things about Dennis, his family, and the situation with Styx. She is in effect a very polarizing figure. Some people like her and others can't stand her. If you think she "rocks", good for you. Frankly, I think she is full of it. People just need to take her comments with a grain of salt and realize that she has an agenda.

Annie, I think you need a valium. You don't have the slightest idea about Zan. I've known her for many years and she is a great person and a solid musician. So what if she thinks differently about Dennis than you do. I love Dennis but I don't think he's blameless in the saga that is Styx.

Eric

Some people just need to take what Annie has to say with a grain of salt. She clearly has an agenda of anti-Zan.



P.S. Stacy - LOVE the sig pic.

thank you!!! i got it from joey's rocky horror link. it was amongst the other photos... i luv that skit w/ christoper walkin on snl. classic!