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Now we know what happened to TNC's avatar.

[SusieP]

[quote="FYRE
My rant:

I can appreciate humor but I can't tolerate the cavalier use of "retarded." There is nothing funny about mental retardation. Calling others "retarded" in an attempt at humor is degrading to humanity in so many ways.[/quote]


It's got nothing to do with BT or being "pc." It's about respecting human beings that haven't been blessed with the faculties you've been given.

If you don't understand that then maybe you haven't the faculties I've given you credit for.[/quote]


but Avatar ISN'T human.

[Shadowsong]

We are not P.C. here.

Good things he''s wearing head protection as he crashes his face into that football size burger.
That burger is bigger than his helmet

[styxman]

[quote="FYRE
My rant:

I can appreciate humor but I can't tolerate the cavalier use of "retarded." There is nothing funny about mental retardation. Calling others "retarded" in an attempt at humor is degrading to humanity in so many ways.

It's got nothing to do with BT or being "pc." It's about respecting human beings that haven't been blessed with the faculties you've been given.

If you don't understand that then maybe you haven't the faculties I've given you credit for.[/quote]


but Avatar ISN'T human. [/quote]

Exactly...he's a retarded piece of shit

[styxman]

We are not P.C. here.

Good things he''s wearing head protection as he crashes his face into that football size burger.
That burger is bigger than his helmet

So you can see under the table shadow

[Shadowsong]

where's the delete?

[Shadowsong]

We are not P.C. here.

Good things he''s wearing head protection as he crashes his face into that football size burger.
That burger is bigger than his helmet

So you can see under the table shadow

I assure you nothing under that table has any interest to me.
Probably only lots of old chewing gum some of whch will find its way onto his burger belly...

[Shadowsong]

[quote="FYRE
My rant:

I can appreciate humor but I can't tolerate the cavalier use of "retarded." There is nothing funny about mental retardation. Calling others "retarded" in an attempt at humor is degrading to humanity in so many ways.

It's got nothing to do with BT or being "pc." It's about respecting human beings that haven't been blessed with the faculties you've been given.

If you don't understand that then maybe you haven't the faculties I've given you credit for.

[quote="styxman"]

but Avatar ISN'T human.
Exactly...he's a retarded piece of shit [/quote]

Please, we must respect all sorts of lifeforms....

[styxman]

Please, we must respect all sorts of lifeforms....

As you posted it twice Shadow....okay, I'll stop

[Shadowsong]

Now we know what happened to TNC's avatar.

Good one!

Was that Noble's Grand Burger?
Goodness, I hardly recognized it with all those pickles on top.

[Shadowsong]

Please, we must respect all sorts of lifeforms....

As you posted it twice Shadow....okay, I'll stop

I posted it twice as there was some sort of glitch in the quote system so I tried to quote it again and same error occurred so I had to manually correct it
then realized there was no delete button...

Forum glitch

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Trouble is Shania, the retarded haven't a clue if it's today, yesterday or tomorrow

I know others who haven't a clue about certain things, too.

[Marabelle]

I find the picture offensive no matter how many chuckles it gets.

[NealIsGod]

I find the picture offensive no matter how many chuckles it gets.

I'm not crazy about your avatar, either.

[Marabelle]

Well goodness it took you 3 months to say it.

[styxman]

amazingly clever! great job!

[NealIsGod]

Well goodness it took you 3 months to say it.

Because I am not a hypocrite.

[Marabelle]

glad we straightened that out Nig! And styxman i think your story and avator is hilarious; just don't like the big black guy with the helmet and big oversized burger.

[styxman]

glad we straightened that out Nig! And styxman i think your story and avator is hilarious; just don't like the big black guy with the helmet and big oversized burger.

I realized just as I pressed the send button, it was the burger pic Come on NIGS pic is funny

[Marabelle]

Ok.

[Rockindeano]

glad we straightened that out Nig! And styxman i think your story and avator is hilarious; just don't like the big black guy with the helmet and big oversized burger.

Why?

I can't wait to hear this.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

[Matthew]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

Well, no-one apart from virtually every black hip-hop act. The word "nigger" is used routinely. So I reckon it isn't the word itself that is offensive - it's the spirit of the remark and its context. Calling the blob from Weird Science "retarded" hardly constitutes an attack on "the weak and defenceless"...the spirit of the remark was light-hearted.

The trouble with most PC types is that they patronize and infantilize the people they are trying to 'protect'. Although they don't belong to the 'minority' in question, they are quick to judge what is or isn't 'offensive' and 'degrading' to that minority. It's just so arrogant and humourless...

So you might be PC. But I wouyldn't assume you are speaking on behalf of everyone on this board.

[styxman]

The word 'N' never came into my mind with that picture, never used it and never would use it. Just thought it was a funny picture. As for the other word, okay I see your point..I apologise

[styxman]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

Well, no-one apart from virtually every black hip-hop act. The word "nigger" is used routinely. So I reckon it isn't the word itself that is offensive - it's the spirit of the remark and its context. Calling the blob from Weird Science "retarded" hardly constitutes an attack on "the weak and defenceless"...the spirit of the remark was light-hearted.

The trouble with most PC types is that they patronize and infantilize the people they are trying to 'protect'. Although they don't belong to the 'minority' in question, they are quick to judge what is or isn't 'offensive' and 'degrading' to that minority. It's just so arrogant and humourless...

So you might be PC. But I wouyldn't assume you are speaking on behalf of everyone on this board.

Yep, I'll go with that...well written Matthew

[Wheels Of Fyre]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

Well, no-one apart from virtually every black hip-hop act. The word "nigger" is used routinely. So I reckon it isn't the word itself that is offensive - it's the spirit of the remark and its context. Calling the blob from Weird Science "retarded" hardly constitutes an attack on "the weak and defenceless"...the spirit of the remark was light-hearted.

The trouble with most PC types is that they patronize and infantilize the people they are trying to 'protect'. Although they don't belong to the 'minority' in question, they are quick to judge what is or isn't 'offensive' and 'degrading' to that minority. It's just so arrogant and humourless...

So you might be PC. But I wouyldn't assume you are speaking on behalf of everyone on this board.

You're trivializing the importance of the function of Political Correctedness - if that's even a proper term. For myself I've never considered showing respect to other human beings as something that requires some political mechanism but rather nothing more than a compassionate heart!

"Nigger" used to be VERY common and loosely used. Then it evolved into a hate word and now has been acknowledged as such and considered inapproriate. Within the Black Community "nigger" isn't used rather "niggah" is and it carries a completely different conotation.

Having said that I'm NOT "PC" but rather a COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEING. So it's not about arrogance or lack of humor - it's about RESPECT.

I'm referring to the use of the term "retarded" that was applied to people at BT in this thread. Yes - I understand the spirit of the remark was meant to be funny but at the same time I also sense a tone of disrespectfulness in that "humor."

In my Ugly Betty thread I used "moron" in the poll. The definition of moron is "a mildly retarded person" OR "a stupid person." In the spirit of my usage I certainly wasn't referencing or comparing anything with a mentally retarded person. It's clear what my intentions were but the intentions of this thread are not so clear. In fact, the responses to my rant indicate that humor really wasn't the intent. The intent appears to be to insult others by comparing them to or placing them in the category of being mentally retarded.

BTW: I speak for those who have no voice - the mentally retarded. I'm the parent of a special needs child and prior to his birth I actively spoke up against this type of "humor." Since his birth I have an even larger voice.

[styxman]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

Well, no-one apart from virtually every black hip-hop act. The word "nigger" is used routinely. So I reckon it isn't the word itself that is offensive - it's the spirit of the remark and its context. Calling the blob from Weird Science "retarded" hardly constitutes an attack on "the weak and defenceless"...the spirit of the remark was light-hearted.

The trouble with most PC types is that they patronize and infantilize the people they are trying to 'protect'. Although they don't belong to the 'minority' in question, they are quick to judge what is or isn't 'offensive' and 'degrading' to that minority. It's just so arrogant and humourless...

So you might be PC. But I wouyldn't assume you are speaking on behalf of everyone on this board.

You're trivializing the importance of the function of Political Correctedness - if that's even a proper term. For myself I've never considered showing respect to other human beings as something that requires some political mechanism but rather nothing more than a compassionate heart!

"Nigger" used to be VERY common and loosely used. Then it evolved into a hate word and now has been acknowledged as such and considered inapproriate. Within the Black Community "nigger" isn't used rather "niggah" is and it carries a completely different conotation.

Having said that I'm NOT "PC" but rather a COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEING. So it's not about arrogance or lack of humor - it's about RESPECT.

I'm referring to the use of the term "retarded" that was applied to people at BT in this thread. Yes - I understand the spirit of the remark was meant to be funny but at the same time I also sense a tone of disrespectfulness in that "humor."

In my Ugly Betty thread I used "moron" in the poll. The definition of moron is "a mildly retarded person" OR "a stupid person." In the spirit of my usage I certainly wasn't referencing or comparing anything with a mentally retarded person. It's clear what my intentions were but the intentions of this thread are not so clear. In fact, the responses to my rant indicate that humor really wasn't the intent. The intent appears to be to insult others by comparing them to or placing them in the category of being mentally retarded.

BTW: I speak for those who have no voice - the mentally retarded. I'm the parent of a special needs child and prior to his birth I actively spoke up against this type of "humor." Since his birth I have an even larger voice.

I feel awful and so I should...you'll not hear me use that word or any other that borders on taking the piss out of people with special needs. With your permission I'd like to use Moron for BTers, sounds better anyway.
Your child has a special parent that's for sure

[SusieP]

Hasn't the poster who used the term 'retarded' (styxman) already apologised for causing any offence?
I think he has, so why can't this just be laid to rest, now?
You have made your point. We have all read it and we acknowledge that you have made a valid point.
And I'm sure lessons have been learned. I'm sure we will all think twice now before we post anything which may offend anyone.

So can we please deal with it and move on?

Shake hands, guys and let's all be friends.


(OMG I just behaved like a Moderator! Sorry folks, I just don't like it when we fight. )

[Marabelle]

Susie I know you mean well but I know I cannot stand another person tell me that I should be quiet and go away because all has been said and lessons have been learned. It's not our call.

[Matthew]

We are not P.C. here.

Regarding this claim. No one here referred to the mega-burger eating "black guy" as a "nigger." Why not if "we are not P.C. here?"

No one uses that term in social circles because it's NOT P.C. It's offensive and degrading. Society has evolved to recognize this unfortunately the same isn't true for the mentally retarded.

So when you say "We are not P.C. here." - think again! We ARE! At least regarding some things. It's too bad that the weak and defenseless are targeted.

Well, no-one apart from virtually every black hip-hop act. The word "nigger" is used routinely. So I reckon it isn't the word itself that is offensive - it's the spirit of the remark and its context. Calling the blob from Weird Science "retarded" hardly constitutes an attack on "the weak and defenceless"...the spirit of the remark was light-hearted.

The trouble with most PC types is that they patronize and infantilize the people they are trying to 'protect'. Although they don't belong to the 'minority' in question, they are quick to judge what is or isn't 'offensive' and 'degrading' to that minority. It's just so arrogant and humourless...

So you might be PC. But I wouyldn't assume you are speaking on behalf of everyone on this board.

You're trivializing the importance of the function of Political Correctedness - if that's even a proper term. For myself I've never considered showing respect to other human beings as something that requires some political mechanism but rather nothing more than a compassionate heart!

"Nigger" used to be VERY common and loosely used. Then it evolved into a hate word and now has been acknowledged as such and considered inapproriate. Within the Black Community "nigger" isn't used rather "niggah" is and it carries a completely different conotation.

Having said that I'm NOT "PC" but rather a COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEING. So it's not about arrogance or lack of humor - it's about RESPECT.

I'm referring to the use of the term "retarded" that was applied to people at BT in this thread. Yes - I understand the spirit of the remark was meant to be funny but at the same time I also sense a tone of disrespectfulness in that "humor."

In my Ugly Betty thread I used "moron" in the poll. The definition of moron is "a mildly retarded person" OR "a stupid person." In the spirit of my usage I certainly wasn't referencing or comparing anything with a mentally retarded person. It's clear what my intentions were but the intentions of this thread are not so clear. In fact, the responses to my rant indicate that humor really wasn't the intent. The intent appears to be to insult others by comparing them to or placing them in the category of being mentally retarded.

BTW: I speak for those who have no voice - the mentally retarded. I'm the parent of a special needs child and prior to his birth I actively spoke up against this type of "humor." Since his birth I have an even larger voice.

Yes, you wrote an answer in the poll which read: "No. JOURNEY is a rock band, moron!" In this context it was a light-hearted term of abuse. Exactly the same spirit in which the term "retarded" was used toward BT.

Did your use of "moron" 'reference' a mentally retarded person? Yes - because the definition of "moron" means - as you point out - "mildly retarded person".

It seems to me that you have a double-standard on this issue. One set of rules for you. And another for everyone else.

BTW: My mother is a life-long sufferer of schizophrenia. And I feel huge compassion towards her. But I couldn't care less when someone attacks me for being a "PerryLoon" - even though the word "loon" is disrespectful to mentally ill people - and I'm certainly not going to scold anyone or police other people's posts.

Frankly, the vocabulary people use on a Journey messageboard is the least of my worries - and if someone makes me laugh - even if it's about a serious or worthy subject - then I'm always grateful.