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Postby McNeil » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:27 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Aaron wrote:Deano,

I'm not sure why you think Soul SirkUS wasn't allowed to succeed but you have the inside track so I'll give you that. And you're right on about Gramps, Journey needs someone with a fuckin brain as management.


Azoff is brain dead. And he has the fucking runs too.

Look, SoulSirkus was Azoff as well, and that conflicted with Journey's success....so, SS is over...Easy, huh?


I still say Soul SirkUS got a lot of attention with their cd and it didn't do much. It surely got as much attention as Journey have with their last three releases.


SS got ZERO attention. That band should have made hay..What a shame. Grandpa elected to go ewith the catalogue and a lippin red leather panted fag singer than a real RnR band.

Rockn'deano wrote:SoulSirkus was NOT allowed to succeed. Yep, that's right. Good ol shit in your pants Azoff restricted SS in favour of letting Journey maintain status.......Stupid fucker.


Dude were drinking last night? How the fuck would I hear the writing magic of JSS and Neal when all of the songs were written by Schon, Cain and Perry.


Dude, last time I checked Perry is off playing the ponies at Del Mar and watching the Dodgers....Look, if you can't see how good World Play is and the chemistry Schon and jeff share, than I am done typing.

However, Augeri could sing and did so quite well for several years.


Um, hate to break it to you, but Augeri hasn't been able to sing a note in a year plus....come on.....

I have no argument on the tapegate deal, he clearly has struggled for quite sometime. However, Augeri did a great job singing from 98 to 04. He may have lost it but he could sing.


You just contradicted yourself...Fraudgeri hasn't been able to sing well for 3 years.


Now, could you explain your complete 180 on this subject? What gives dude? You were balls out against Journey's sound with JSS and then poof, you're their biggest cheerleader. Goddamn, it reminds me of BT for fucks sakes.


Dude, retract that now!

I'll tell you what I think. I think you got some free tickets, some back stage passes, and some personal treatment by the band which has swayed your opinion.


Wrong.

You clearly had influence on the band's decision to oust Augeri and you got their attention.


Yes I did. I am proud to admit it too.

You got some personal treatment and now you're their biggest cheerleader. Am I wrong here?


Yes, you are.

All I'm asking is for you to set aside the personal attention your recieved and any personal relationships you now have with the band and listen to the music. If you can do this, listen to shows before your personal treatment and after, and honestly say Journey is that much fuckin better I'll kiss your ass the next time you're in Indiana. I've heard the boots before, I seen them live in Indy, and I've heard the boots after Indy and there is no difference in performance in my opinion.

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Dude, The Band is LIVE now....they wern't then...Listen to the message sent from the band subliminally..Neal comes out as band leader, to the Who's "We Won't Get Fooled Again"......

He is saying, "ok, we got busted, but no more tape shit."

I am out.


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Dude, The Band is LIVE now....they wern't then...Listen to the message sent from the band subliminally..Neal comes out as band leader, to the Who's "We Won't Get Fooled Again"......

WTF... you mean to say that Neal was as surprised as anyone else to discover Augeri was miming ??????... haha for fucks sake... the Who track would have to be renamed

"Sorry, we wont try to fool you again"

Man yr deluded... big time

U still "going to war" for these guys, it seems.... misplaced I would suggest! You n "Bush" not related are u??
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:38 am

Take your dick out of your mouth lookalike..I can't quite understand what the Fuck you are trying to say.
Yes, I am full blown PRO JOURNEY...They came correct, and now it's time to do something.....the sooner the better.

They used to have a truck(band), with a VW motor (Augeri)...Now they have a fucking train with a rocket (JSS) for power.

YOU do the math. Better yet, just go drive into the Black Sea.
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Postby Aaron » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:47 am

Dude I'm not arguing that Schon and JSS do not have chemistry on World Play. My point was that I was listening to a Journey boot that had no SS songs on it. I couldn't hear Schon and JSS's writing chemistry from a Journey boot where they are singing Journey songs. Are you with me now? I do think Schon and JSS have chemistry, it just doesn't sound like Journey, that's it.

Rockn'deano wrote:
Dude were drinking last night? How the fuck would I hear the writing magic of JSS and Neal when all of the songs were written by Schon, Cain and Perry.


Dude, last time I checked Perry is off playing the ponies at Del Mar and watching the Dodgers....Look, if you can't see how good World Play is and the chemistry Schon and jeff share, than I am done typing.


Come on Dean, I'm with you that Augeri hasn't been singing for quite a long time. You know the timing better than me. My point was that he did a pretty good job from 98 to 02-03. You can bust his balls now but you have to give credit where credit is due. He did OK for several years in Journey.

Um, hate to break it to you, but Augeri hasn't been able to sing a note in a year plus....come on...



Give me a break man. By your time line I'm off 6 months, fine. Call it 98-03 or what the fuck ever, he did an OK job for several years until his voice went tits up. You have to give credit where credit is due.

You just contradicted yourself...Fraudgeri hasn't been able to sing well for 3 years.


All right, I take back the BT comment so consider it retracted. But, its still fuckin close. I still say you've changed your opinion of the band based on influences other than the bands performance and music. You can't tell me the early boots vs. the late boots are different. I've listened to both and they're not any different.
Dude, retract that now!



The band is live now so cool, they're doing what they should have been doing all along. Woo fuckin hoo. You can't tell me that Neal didn't know what was going on with Augeri and the tapes. He put up with it, the whole band put up with it, so they're all guilty. Who the fuck knows, Neal may have been driving the whole tape thing to keep the revenue rolling in. As a side note, The Who FUCKIN SUCK! :wink:

I'm glad he's saying no more tape shit too. I'm not getting the subliminal message though but I'll give you the point the JSS is an animal on the stage. Great stage presence, good moves, excellent energy, he's excellent as a performer on stage. What message I do get is that Journey sound nothing like I expect. I was at Indy dude and seen the crowd start laughing 8 bars into "Stone in Love". I felt pretty bad for the band, it wasn't pretty.
Dude, The Band is LIVE now....they weren't then...Listen to the message sent from the band subliminally..Neal comes out as band leader, to the Who's "We Won't Get Fooled Again"......

He is saying, "OK, we got busted, but no more tape shit."

I am out.


What I'm getting from you is that the stage energy of JSS live with Journey is what changed your opinion 180 degrees. Is that right? You still haven't said it. If that is the case, then set that part aside and tell me what you think of the music. Before you seen them live on boots, live, and after you seen them live on boots, tell me your opinion of the music. You can't tell me the music is that much better before and after. Dude I've been there, seen it live and heard it. If you can honestly tell me the music is better now than before I'll still kiss your bare ass if you make it to Indiana (and buy you a beer too).

I prioritize the music first, live show second. To be honest, I expect both to be pretty fuckin good. JSS's stage presence and energy is excellent, no doubt about it. (I'll get his dick out of my mouth and hand it back to you now :D) He just doesn't sound anything like Journey.

JSS said it himself, "I'd like to see Perry sing Stand Up" from Rock Star. He's right, Perry would sound like complete shit and come across gay as fuck singing that. Perry is not a metal singer. JSS's rocks as a metal singer, bottom line is he's fuckin killer in that style. But its like Rob Halford (the gay bastard) coming in to sing Journey, it just doesn't work.

Cheers to you bro (vodka and grapefruit),

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Postby yulog » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:13 am

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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:11 pm

Uh oh Aaron, you don't like The Who? :shock:
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Postby Aaron » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:14 pm

Clasicrockldy,

Sorry but that's right, The Who suck .. almost as bad as The Stones!


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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:21 pm

Aaron wrote:Clasicrockldy,

Sorry but that's right, The Who suck .. almost as bad as The Stones!


L8r,

Aaron

Clasicrockldy wrote:Uh oh Aaron, you don't like The Who? :shock:


Hmmmmmm I do like the early Stones and The Who. Tell me, besides Journey, who do you like?
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Postby JSS » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:28 pm


JSS said it himself, "I'd like to see Perry sing Stand Up" from Rock Star. He's right, Perry would sound like complete shit and come across gay as fuck singing that. Perry is not a metal singer. JSS's rocks as a metal singer, bottom line is he's fuckin killer in that style. But its like Rob Halford (the gay bastard) coming in to sing Journey, it just doesn't work.


Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

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Postby Liam » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:35 pm

JSS wrote:Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

JSS


Wasting time on the net when you're about to go on.....JEEZE. :lol: J/K man.
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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:53 pm

As cool as it is for JSS to post here (seems like a very cool guy), I'm with Aaron on this.
Not the Who comment, but the rest of it. It don't sound like "Journey" to me.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:05 pm

brywool wrote:As cool as it is for JSS to post here (seems like a very cool guy), I'm with Aaron on this.
Not the Who comment, but the rest of it. It don't sound like "Journey" to me.


That sounds soo familiar. I said the same thing when I first heard Augeri in 2004.........
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Postby Marabelle » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:09 pm

I am glad that JSS is such a cool guy and it's all good but I'd thnk he'd want to say STFUP! He's singing his heart out every day and people still complain.
Yeah I guess it's like when SA came to the band but good grief! Peace out!
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:15 pm

Damn this place is great! :)

Rock on, JSS!
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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:31 pm

Marabelle wrote:I am glad that JSS is such a cool guy and it's all good but I'd thnk he'd want to say STFUP! He's singing his heart out every day and people still complain.
Yeah I guess it's like when SA came to the band but good grief! Peace out!


Maybe so. It's pretty clear that people are pretty passionate about it. See, I didn't have that problem with Augeri. When I first heard Remember Me, I thought it was great and definitely a step ahead of anything on TBF and most of the songs off of Perry's FTLOSM (except for You Better Wait which is a classic).

With JSS, I'm going by bootlegs. I've heard some of his studio stuff and it's good, but it's not in the same vein as Journey. I've heard him sing "Who's Crying Now" and "Send Her My Love". These are not difficult Journey songs for a good singer (which he is- not saying he isn't). When I hear the new live stuff, it just doesn't have the Journey feel to me even when the vocals are decent. When they put out an album with him, that will be the test for me.

He's singing his heart out and congratulations to him for getting the gig. However, it's a pretty shocking switch to those that've heard the Journey sound forever and have come to identify Journey more with a high tenor voice. Say what you want about Schon, the reason I listen to them is because of their vocals. They've always been amazing on record.

It's disconcerting to me to hear the live stuff where the pitch is off (way off in some spots- sorry man!) and where he struggles to hit the notes. Not saying I want tapes or anything. I heard tapes of Augeri where his pitch was also off and maybe I just haven't heard a great boot yet. BUT I hear people raving about the Marysville show and I'm like "are you people friggin' tone deaf???" There are spots there where it's really bad (Keep on Runnin). The other 2 boots out there were embarrassingly bad and people were still saying how great they were. I want to hear a good show. Since the Marysville show is better than the other two, I think the guy may actually be able to do the songs on a good night. The MAIN thing I'd like to see is Journey lower the keys of their songs for him so that he's got a fighting chance to survive on the tour and actually flourish. They should've done that for Augeri too. I wish the guy no ill will at all. This has to be a great gig for him, but it's probably the hardest as well. I just want the band to sound top-notch and the vocals aren't there yet. Maybe in time, they will be.
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Postby Barb » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:44 pm

JSS wrote:Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

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Jeff you ROCK! I will admit listening to the first boots that came out, I thought you were going to totally suck. You blew my mind and everyone I went with, and everyone I know who went to the Mt. View show. Def Leppard was totally boring coming after you guys... and you had a lot to do with that. I am looking so forward to the next tour, when hopefully, it is just Journey, and hopefully, you will still be around. 8)
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Postby Barb » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:46 pm

brywool wrote:With JSS, I'm going by bootlegs. I've heard some of his studio stuff and it's good, but it's not in the same vein as Journey. I've heard him sing "Who's Crying Now" and "Send Her My Love". These are not difficult Journey songs for a good singer (which he is- not saying he isn't). When I hear the new live stuff, it just doesn't have the Journey feel to me even when the vocals are decent. When they put out an album with him, that will be the test for me.

He's singing his heart out and congratulations to him for getting the gig. However, it's a pretty shocking switch to those that've heard the Journey sound forever and have come to identify Journey more with a high tenor voice. Say what you want about Schon, the reason I listen to them is because of their vocals. They've always been amazing on record.

It's disconcerting to me to hear the live stuff where the pitch is off (way off in some spots- sorry man!) and where he struggles to hit the notes. Not saying I want tapes or anything. I heard tapes of Augeri where his pitch was also off and maybe I just haven't heard a great boot yet. BUT I hear people raving about the Marysville show and I'm like "are you people friggin' tone deaf???" There are spots there where it's really bad (Keep on Runnin). The other 2 boots out there were embarrassingly bad and people were still saying how great they were. I want to hear a good show. Since the Marysville show is better than the other two, I think the guy may actually be able to do the songs on a good night. The MAIN thing I'd like to see is Journey lower the keys of their songs for him so that he's got a fighting chance to survive on the tour and actually flourish. They should've done that for Augeri too. I wish the guy no ill will at all. This has to be a great gig for him, but it's probably the hardest as well. I just want the band to sound top-notch and the vocals aren't there yet. Maybe in time, they will be.


I felt like this too when I heard the first boots. I had my tickets well in advance of Augeri leaving, and I wasn't giving them up. I went and absolutely loved it. I really thought I'd be disappointed, but I was totally wrong. You need to see it live.
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Postby Barb » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:47 pm

Crazie Scarab wrote:Damn this place is great! :)

Rock on, JSS!



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Postby brywool » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:52 pm

Barb wrote:
I felt like this too when I heard the first boots. I had my tickets well in advance of Augeri leaving, and I wasn't giving them up. I went and absolutely loved it. I really thought I'd be disappointed, but I was totally wrong. You need to see it live.


Maybe so. I will agree with you that Def Leppard is boring.
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Postby jabber » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:02 pm

Jeff can sing, but what I'm seeing is how he's winning people over just by being a cool guy and being a livewire onstage. People are loving the new energy and they're getting off on the fact that he's more accessible than most. Hell, where was he right before a concert? HERE, reading people's opinions. And he doesn't wimp out when he replies. The fact that he does post here says something to me. Guy knows how to cover the fan base and maybe pick up some new ones... Public image counts for a lot when people are deciding if they like someone or not. Personal interaction, even more so. If some folks like him as a person, they're going to lean towards supporting his career too. Don't alienate your fans or potential fans, jump in and say hi, throw 'em a bone and they'll be talking about how cool you are and then they'll spend money for your stuff. Best PR there is and it won't cost a dime. Except that monthly internet bill, of course.

I don't think he "sounds like Journey" either. But he's good, and there seems to be new life in the band again. They're having fun, and it's contagious!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:06 pm

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JSS said it himself, "I'd like to see Perry sing Stand Up" from Rock Star. He's right, Perry would sound like complete shit and come across gay as fuck singing that. Perry is not a metal singer. JSS's rocks as a metal singer, bottom line is he's fuckin killer in that style. But its like Rob Halford (the gay bastard) coming in to sing Journey, it just doesn't work.


Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

JSS


oh man that makes me laugh... 20 minutes until show time & jss is online. lol! }:CPP so if he's ever late we'll know why eh? }:CPP
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:10 pm

brywool wrote:
Marabelle wrote:I am glad that JSS is such a cool guy and it's all good but I'd thnk he'd want to say STFUP! He's singing his heart out every day and people still complain.
Yeah I guess it's like when SA came to the band but good grief! Peace out!


Maybe so. It's pretty clear that people are pretty passionate about it. See, I didn't have that problem with Augeri. When I first heard Remember Me, I thought it was great and definitely a step ahead of anything on TBF and most of the songs off of Perry's FTLOSM (except for You Better Wait which is a classic).

With JSS, I'm going by bootlegs. I've heard some of his studio stuff and it's good, but it's not in the same vein as Journey. I've heard him sing "Who's Crying Now" and "Send Her My Love". These are not difficult Journey songs for a good singer (which he is- not saying he isn't). When I hear the new live stuff, it just doesn't have the Journey feel to me even when the vocals are decent. When they put out an album with him, that will be the test for me.

He's singing his heart out and congratulations to him for getting the gig. However, it's a pretty shocking switch to those that've heard the Journey sound forever and have come to identify Journey more with a high tenor voice. Say what you want about Schon, the reason I listen to them is because of their vocals. They've always been amazing on record.

It's disconcerting to me to hear the live stuff where the pitch is off (way off in some spots- sorry man!) and where he struggles to hit the notes. Not saying I want tapes or anything. I heard tapes of Augeri where his pitch was also off and maybe I just haven't heard a great boot yet. BUT I hear people raving about the Marysville show and I'm like "are you people friggin' tone deaf???" There are spots there where it's really bad (Keep on Runnin). The other 2 boots out there were embarrassingly bad and people were still saying how great they were. I want to hear a good show. Since the Marysville show is better than the other two, I think the guy may actually be able to do the songs on a good night. The MAIN thing I'd like to see is Journey lower the keys of their songs for him so that he's got a fighting chance to survive on the tour and actually flourish. They should've done that for Augeri too. I wish the guy no ill will at all. This has to be a great gig for him, but it's probably the hardest as well. I just want the band to sound top-notch and the vocals aren't there yet. Maybe in time, they will be.



OMG!!! When will the madness end??? Perry is Perry, Augeri is Augeri & Soto is Soto. They're not interchangable!!! Jeff does not need to sound like either to fit perfectly in Journey. Yes, I'm one of the passionate ones. Sure, like Jeff himself said, if he wasn't flying all over the damn stage every night and was instead just sitting/standing still, sure, his vocals would be flawless, no doubt. That would make for a pretty exciting show, wouldn't it? Listening to a boot & being at a show witnessing the energy are two very different things. Seems Jeff is having a great time, as are the rest of the guys. Keep on rocking 8)
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:11 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:
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JSS said it himself, "I'd like to see Perry sing Stand Up" from Rock Star. He's right, Perry would sound like complete shit and come across gay as fuck singing that. Perry is not a metal singer. JSS's rocks as a metal singer, bottom line is he's fuckin killer in that style. But its like Rob Halford (the gay bastard) coming in to sing Journey, it just doesn't work.


Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

JSS


oh man that makes me laugh... 20 minutes until show time & jss is online. lol! }:CPP so if he's ever late we'll know why eh? }:CPP
I agree, pretty freakin' funny :lol:
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Postby yulog » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:26 pm

um. You dont work for journey(no wars here brother) and as a fan of journey(and because without their being fans of Journey there is no Journey)i think that anyone including myself should say what we feel ,just in the same way i dont feel Paul Rodgers(love this guy) doesnt fit queen all that well--a couple songs are okay but most dont work for me(and from the looks of it others feel the same way) this is a bigger league than you have been in the past lot more fans, lot more opinions, going to be plenty against and plenty for you being the lead singer, you've had it pretty good since you took over. Augeri was crucified when he took over at the mic you have had a couple mosquito bites at worst and the good thing is anyone that has said you dont fit still has agreed that you can sing i havent really seen anyone post that you suck the worst i saw was 1 person said that journey sounded like crap with you singing yet that person still respected you as a singer i heard much worse things about Augeri when he started. This isnt the cheerleading section that Backtalk is so your bound to have mixed feelings over here and for good reason. I'm still waiting to hear a good boot ive listened to 4 or 5 but have not felt the fit. i'd still be willing to listen to one and be objective i think people are giving you 2nd, third and 4th listens because they know you can sing. Almost everyone has been pretty respectful of you here --you can say quit the bitchin or whining --like it or lump it or you can change their minds by doing what you keep saying you can do and hit the notes and make it sound like Journey.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:32 pm

yulog wrote:um. You dont work for journey(no wars here brother) and as a fan of journey(and because without their being fans of Journey there is no Journey)i think that anyone including myself should say what we feel ,just in the same way i dont feel Paul Rodgers(love this guy) doesnt fit queen all that well--a couple songs are okay but most dont work for me(and from the looks of it others feel the same way) this is a bigger league than you have been in the past lot more fans, lot more opinions, going to be plenty against and plenty for you being the lead singer, you've had it pretty good since you took over. Augeri was crucified when he took over at the mic you have had a couple mosquito bites at worst and the good thing is anyone that has said you dont fit still has agreed that you can sing i havent really seen anyone post that you suck the worst i saw was 1 person said that journey sounded like crap with you singing yet that person still respected you as a singer i heard much worse things about Augeri when he started. This isnt the cheerleading section that Backtalk is so your bound to have mixed feelings over here and for good reason. I'm still waiting to hear a good boot ive listened to 4 or 5 but have not felt the fit. i'd still be willing to listen to one and be objective i think people are giving you 2nd, third and 4th listens because they know you can sing. Almost everyone has been pretty respectful of you here --you can say quit the bitchin or whining --like it or lump it or you can change their minds by doing what you keep saying you can do and hit the notes and make it sound like Journey.

You directing your post at me?
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Postby Deb » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:36 pm

JSS wrote:

JSS said it himself, "I'd like to see Perry sing Stand Up" from Rock Star. He's right, Perry would sound like complete shit and come across gay as fuck singing that. Perry is not a metal singer. JSS's rocks as a metal singer, bottom line is he's fuckin killer in that style. But its like Rob Halford (the gay bastard) coming in to sing Journey, it just doesn't work.


Sorry to barge in but I must correct you...I am not a metal singer, I am merely A singer! I do & have done everything from Motown to Metal in my 22 years of professional singing, damn proud to say I have a wide genre & range to choose from, my comment was as you mentioned, Perry singing Stand Up wouldn't sound very masculine...but my friend, u must open your ears & listen to some of MY catalogue & realize I can & have sung Perry's, Sam Cooke's, whatever, genre for many years as it IS my influence, I'm not out here turning Journey into a metal band, we're just rocking it up a little more. My voice is more throaty, I'll give u this, but by no means should I be told I don't work for Journey, if that were the case would I REALLY be here right now? Think about it :) Maybe you didn't like Indy, maybe you won't ever like what I bring to the band, but bottom line is 'it is what it is', like it or lump it, I'm here, all the bitching & moaning aint gonna change it...not this tour anyway.

No wars here brother, I know it's all preference & opinions, I should just sit back & watch the comments back & forth but once in a while I like to throw my 2 cents in as well, I mean it is ME youre discussing, ha ha...shit, we're on 20 minutes, gotta run!

JSS


That's about as cool as it gets...........coming in and interacting with the fans.......on top of his busy day job yet. :wink: Thanks Jeff. :D Image
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Postby Argus » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:39 pm

journeygal wrote:
yulog wrote:um. You dont work for journey(no wars here brother) and as a fan of journey(and because without their being fans of Journey there is no Journey)i think that anyone including myself should say what we feel ,just in the same way i dont feel Paul Rodgers(love this guy) doesnt fit queen all that well--a couple songs are okay but most dont work for me(and from the looks of it others feel the same way) this is a bigger league than you have been in the past lot more fans, lot more opinions, going to be plenty against and plenty for you being the lead singer, you've had it pretty good since you took over. Augeri was crucified when he took over at the mic you have had a couple mosquito bites at worst and the good thing is anyone that has said you dont fit still has agreed that you can sing i havent really seen anyone post that you suck the worst i saw was 1 person said that journey sounded like crap with you singing yet that person still respected you as a singer i heard much worse things about Augeri when he started. This isnt the cheerleading section that Backtalk is so your bound to have mixed feelings over here and for good reason. I'm still waiting to hear a good boot ive listened to 4 or 5 but have not felt the fit. i'd still be willing to listen to one and be objective i think people are giving you 2nd, third and 4th listens because they know you can sing. Almost everyone has been pretty respectful of you here --you can say quit the bitchin or whining --like it or lump it or you can change their minds by doing what you keep saying you can do and hit the notes and make it sound like Journey.

You directing your post at me?


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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:41 pm

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journeygal wrote:
yulog wrote:um. You dont work for journey(no wars here brother) and as a fan of journey(and because without their being fans of Journey there is no Journey)i think that anyone including myself should say what we feel ,just in the same way i dont feel Paul Rodgers(love this guy) doesnt fit queen all that well--a couple songs are okay but most dont work for me(and from the looks of it others feel the same way) this is a bigger league than you have been in the past lot more fans, lot more opinions, going to be plenty against and plenty for you being the lead singer, you've had it pretty good since you took over. Augeri was crucified when he took over at the mic you have had a couple mosquito bites at worst and the good thing is anyone that has said you dont fit still has agreed that you can sing i havent really seen anyone post that you suck the worst i saw was 1 person said that journey sounded like crap with you singing yet that person still respected you as a singer i heard much worse things about Augeri when he started. This isnt the cheerleading section that Backtalk is so your bound to have mixed feelings over here and for good reason. I'm still waiting to hear a good boot ive listened to 4 or 5 but have not felt the fit. i'd still be willing to listen to one and be objective i think people are giving you 2nd, third and 4th listens because they know you can sing. Almost everyone has been pretty respectful of you here --you can say quit the bitchin or whining --like it or lump it or you can change their minds by doing what you keep saying you can do and hit the notes and make it sound like Journey.

You directing your post at me?


Naw.. @ JSS :wink:


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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:51 pm

Hate to back up 4 pages, but the ast file has reached it's d/l limit. Can someone repost it?
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:53 pm

28...

Go over to Guitars101. They have it there. :D
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:59 pm

Yeah, but I just need one track...
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