Rock and roll hall of fame

[Jasongarth1]

That is might get styx back together! (If they ever get inducted)

[styxdudebrandon]

They deserve to be inducted!!!

[Liam]

It'd be great if Styx and Journey were inducted at the same time.

[styxdudebrandon]

It'd be great if Styx and Journey were inducted at the same time.

And at the induction ceremony they could play a song togehter! That would be cool!

[Ash]

more likely there'd be a fist fight like there almost was for Blondie.

[Liam]

It'd be great if Styx and Journey were inducted at the same time.

And at the induction ceremony they could play a song togehter! That would be cool!

Definitely.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

They probably won't be nominated for years.

What bands or musicians did either Styx or Journey influence?

They both have a chance within 6 years, if Van Halen gets in there soon, IMO.

[Liam]

They probably won't be nominated for years.

What bands or musicians did either Styx or Journey influence?

They both have a chance within 6 years, if Van Halen gets in there soon, IMO.

I honestly don't see how Journey isn't in yet. 75+ Million albums sold worldwide yet BLONDIE'S IN??????????????
Whatever.

[styxfansite]

I thought Journey got inducted last year or was it the walk of fame. They made a big deal of it because Steve Perry was there as well as other band members that are gone from the band. Many rummors went around the net, that the band was reuniting after that.

STYX would have to get back together first I believe before the Hall of Fame would even take them. They might see Jy's remarks about Dennis as a problem as well. Thinking "Does band memebers that hate each other this much deserve to be in there as a band".

[SuiteMadameBlue]

They probably won't be nominated for years.

What bands or musicians did either Styx or Journey influence?

They both have a chance within 6 years, if Van Halen gets in there soon, IMO.

I honestly don't see how Journey isn't in yet. 75+ Million albums sold worldwide yet BLONDIE'S IN??????????????
Whatever.

It doesn't matter on how many albums sold! I totally agree about Blondie even The Pretenders too, no offense and a few other bands.

Performers
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist’s contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

What is the influence & significance of Styx and Journey's contributions to the development & perpetuation of rock and roll? Sold out arena concerts? Record sales? Their popularity at their time?

The Foundation’s nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and more than 50 percent of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year.

Rock experts - LOL Okie Dokie!! That's funny!! I'm surprised that Black Sabbath was inducted and even Van Halen nominated.

Here's the Performer's Inductees list since 1986. I can't believe some of these are even on here!!


performers
Chuck Berry
James Brown
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
Fats Domino
The Everly Brothers
Buddy Holly
Jerry Lee Lewis
Elvis Presley
Little Richard

early influences
Robert Johnson
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Yancey





performers
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Bo Diddley
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Bill Haley
B. B. King
Clyde McPhatter
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Carl Perkins
Smokey Robinson
Big Joe Turner
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilson

early influences
Louis Jordan
T-Bone Walker
Hank Williams






performers
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
Bob Dylan
The Supremes

early influences
Woody Guthrie
Lead Belly
Les Paul






performers
Dion
Otis Redding
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Stevie Wonder

early influences
The Inkspots
Bessie Smith
The Soul Stirrers





performers
Hank Ballard
Bobby Darin
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters
Simon and Garfunkel
The Who

early influences
Louis Armstrong
Charlie Christian
Ma Rainey


performers
LaVern Baker
The Byrds
John Lee Hooker
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Jimmy Reed
Ike and Tina Turner

early influences
Howlin' Wolf






performers
Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Sam and Dave
The Yardbirds

early influences
Elmore James
Professor Longhair





performers
Ruth Brown
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Doors
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Etta James
Van Morrison
Sly and the Family Stone

early influences
Dinah Washington





performers
The Animals
The Band
Duane Eddy
The Grateful Dead
Elton John
John Lennon
Bob Marley
Rod Stewart

early influences
Willie Dixon





performers
The Allman Brothers Band
Al Green
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
Neil Young
Frank Zappa

early influences
The Orioles






performers
David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John
Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground

early influences
Pete Seeger





performers
The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
The Jackson Five
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic

early influences
Mahalia Jackson
Bill Monroe






performers
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
The Mamas and the Papas
Lloyd Price
Santana
Gene Vincent

early influences
Jelly Roll Morton






performers
Billy Joel
Curtis Mayfield
Paul McCartney
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen
The Staple Singers

early influences
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Charles Brown





performers
Eric Clapton
Earth, Wind & Fire
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Bonnie Raitt
James Taylor

early influences
Nat "King" Cole
Billie Holiday





performers
Aerosmith
Solomon Burke
The Flamingos
Michael Jackson
Queen
Paul Simon
Steely Dan
Ritchie Valens





performers
Isaac Hayes
Brenda Lee
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Gene Pitney
Ramones
Talking Heads






performers
AC/DC
The Clash
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
The Police
Righteous Brothers





performers
Jackson Browne
The Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top






performers
Buddy Guy
The O'Jays
The Pretenders
Percy Sledge
U2






performers
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Miles Davis
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Sex Pistols

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I thought Journey got inducted last year or was it the walk of fame. They made a big deal of it because Steve Perry was there as well as other band members that are gone from the band. Many rummors went around the net, that the band was reuniting after that.

STYX would have to get back together first I believe before the Hall of Fame would even take them. They might see Jy's remarks about Dennis as a problem as well. Thinking "Does band memebers that hate each other this much deserve to be in there as a band".

Most of the bands that have been inducted are not the original members. This is sad, but if by some miracle and Styx is inducted, JY has the power to let Dennis perform on the stage that night. That's what happened to Blondie and there were problems too when The Police were inducted.

[styxfansite]

I thought Journey got inducted last year or was it the walk of fame. They made a big deal of it because Steve Perry was there as well as other band members that are gone from the band. Many rummors went around the net, that the band was reuniting after that.

Answering myself on this one. I should have looked first before posting.

It was a star on the "Walk Of Fame".

[sadie65]

I don't think the voting members of the hall care whether band members get along or not. It's truly more about business politics than what the masses think...at least in my opinion.

If Styx, Journey, or VH ever get inducted...it will be long after the powers that be are no longer involved...which I guess just goes to show you....how much does it matter anyway?

And it was the Hollywood Walk of Fame for Journey...not the R & R Hall of Fame.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

:oops:

I thought Journey got inducted last year or was it the walk of fame. They made a big deal of it because Steve Perry was there as well as other band members that are gone from the band. Many rummors went around the net, that the band was reuniting after that.

Answering myself on this one. I should have looked first before posting.

It was a star on the "Walk Of Fame".

LOL, that's what I do all the time on here!!

Sometimes I try to edit what I said fast, but there's always someone faster on here using my quotes than I can't change them - LOL

[Jasongarth1]

I wonder who will be inducted this year?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I don't think the voting members of the hall care whether band members get along or not. It's truly more about business politics than what the masses think...at least in my opinion.

If Styx, Journey, or VH ever get inducted...it will be long after the powers that be are no longer involved...which I guess just goes to show you....how much does it matter anyway?

And it was the Hollywood Walk of Fame for Journey...not the R & R Hall of Fame.

As long as Jan Wenner or whatever his name is, is still part of the nomination committee, Styx will not be mentioned. He's a bitter man and to think he's bitter because of JY of all people. I think those 2 should sit down and talk things out. Get the weight off their shoulders that they've been carrying around.

[StyxCollector]

Look, the arena rock/classic rock bands for the most part will be ignored for the RRHOF.

If Van Halen isn't in, that's telling. I think that mainly has to do with the RRHOF insisting they play with DLR onstage, and that isn't going to happen. Then there's the Michael Anthony issue at this point.

Rolling Stone was never kind to those acts. Heck, Genesis, Yes, et al., are in the same boat. But I can see Peter Gabriel getting in as a solo artist, and maybe Phil Collins. Not Genesis.

Rush won't get in either, although they deserve it.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I totally agree about Rush and Van Halen.

I hope they both get in. I just don't see the other Arena bands. Pretty sad too since most of them are still touring, well not with all their original members, but still touring.

[bugsymalone]

Look, the arena rock/classic rock bands for the most part will be ignored for the RRHOF.

If Van Halen isn't in, that's telling. I think that mainly has to do with the RRHOF insisting they play with DLR onstage, and that isn't going to happen. Then there's the Michael Anthony issue at this point.

Rolling Stone was never kind to those acts. Heck, Genesis, Yes, et al., are in the same boat. But I can see Peter Gabriel getting in as a solo artist, and maybe Phil Collins. Not Genesis.

Rush won't get in either, although they deserve it.

Agree with this. To me, if any of these very popular so-called arena rock bands have any sort of "credibility" with what constitutes this ridiculous coterie of individuals who dub a band "cool" or "not cool" (and, therefore, "worthy"), Rush would probably have the best shot.

For that reason, I never see the day when bands like Styx and Journey ever get considered for induction.

Bugsy

[Rockwriter]

I don't think the voting members of the hall care whether band members get along or not. It's truly more about business politics than what the masses think...at least in my opinion.

If Styx, Journey, or VH ever get inducted...it will be long after the powers that be are no longer involved...which I guess just goes to show you....how much does it matter anyway?

And it was the Hollywood Walk of Fame for Journey...not the R & R Hall of Fame.

As long as Jan Wenner or whatever his name is, is still part of the nomination committee, Styx will not be mentioned. He's a bitter man and to think he's bitter because of JY of all people. I think those 2 should sit down and talk things out. Get the weight off their shoulders that they've been carrying around.

Actually, that's what I've heard, too. Look at the review RS gave CRYSTAL BALL, it was very positive. Then GI the review was outstandingly negative, and singled out JY and "Miss America" in particular. RS has been on what seems like a mission to slam Styx ever since. The story I have heard off the record several times - but nobody wants to go on the record with it - is that JY and Jan Wenner used to be friendly, and then they had a falling out over something. Jan Wenner of course is well known to use RS to promote friends and punish enemies. And that's the way it REALLY works, sadly.

I write very extensively in my upcoming book about Styx' relationship with the critics and how and why it is what it is. It's really interesting to note that the quality of music has NOTHING to do with what gets critically lauded. It's all to do with perception and being in with the self-appointed arbiters of hip on both coasts, and Styx never has been. That's why they had such a hard time critically, along with the fact that the band was being marketed to an audience ten years younger than the critics who were writing reviews at that time . . . thus, the people writing reviews were not the audience for the band. Of course, Styx gets mostly better reviews now, because those people either got promoted into other positions or stopped writing, and now we have a generation of writers who grew up on Styx who are writing the reviews, making the booking decisions for TV shows, putting the music on TV shows and in movies, and so on and so on.

Right now the Hall of Shame is still being controlled by the people who started it - the very same people who have misunderstood Styx all along. As long as that remains so, Styx will not get nominated. As soon as the current elitists retire/die, and people in their thirties and younger get in there, it will change. I just hope Jan Wenner does not outlive the guys in Styx. . . He might, because he sucks the blood out of puppies to replenish himself, lol.

On a business level, Styx was a very cutting edge band that helped to invent and re-define what was possible for a rock band, from their stage craft to the way they organized their tours to the way they marketed and branded their music and imaging. There are few bands in the industry today that are not walking in the footsteps of Styx in those regards.

As far as who Styx influenced, on a sociological level their music has become an undeniable part of pop culture in a way that is not true of Blondie, or the Sex Pistiols, or Velvet Underground, or most of those critically lauded bands that failed to catch on with real paying customers. You can't avoid hearing Styx references or music no matter the medium . . . radio, TV, film, print. Styx is everywhere in our culture all the time, even for those who are not out seeking it like we are. But the people in charge of such things are still trying to dictate what we ought to like, instead of accepting that their tastes are in the tiny minority and that it is our tastes . . . . the record buying public whose money fuels the economy of the business they are in . . . that ought to carry the weight.

I hope all is well.


Sterling

[yogi]

DAMN do I want to read your book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!