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styxfanNH wrote:PBS Broadcast Schedule - "One With Everything"
Cleveland, Ohio (WVIZ) - Wed., December 6 at 9 p.m. EST
Bowling Green, KY (WKYU) - Sun., December 31 at 8 p.m. EST
Wichita, Kansas (KPTF) - Sun., January 5 at 8 p.m CST
Eureka, California (KEET) - Wed., February 7 at 8 p.m. PST
San Bernadino, California (KVCR) - Wed., February 14 at 8 p.m. PST
Kansas City, Missouri (KCPT) - February and March
Ash wrote:PBS - what a Rockin' thing to do. I'm glad Styx is so Rockin that they can emulate the guy who they say is all about showtunes.
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Wasn't Styx, with Dennis one of the first bands in the 1970's Soundstage? Wasn't that on PBS?
Ash wrote:SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Wasn't Styx, with Dennis one of the first bands in the 1970's Soundstage? Wasn't that on PBS?
Yeah but I thought the guys in DFB wanted nothing to do with their legacy or past? I thought they had become so wise as to learn from their previous mistakes.
My point isn't that PBS is one thing or another - it's that they're yet again being contradictory.
Ash wrote:SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Wasn't Styx, with Dennis one of the first bands in the 1970's Soundstage? Wasn't that on PBS?
Yeah but I thought the guys in DFB wanted nothing to do with their legacy or past? I thought they had become so wise as to learn from their previous mistakes.
My point isn't that PBS is one thing or another - it's that they're yet again being contradictory.
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Ash wrote:SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Wasn't Styx, with Dennis one of the first bands in the 1970's Soundstage? Wasn't that on PBS?
Yeah but I thought the guys in DFB wanted nothing to do with their legacy or past? I thought they had become so wise as to learn from their previous mistakes.
My point isn't that PBS is one thing or another - it's that they're yet again being contradictory.
Not true! Styx wants to distance them selves from the wimpy Babe/First Time/Roboto/Music Time part of their past not the rock band part and I think they are doing a great job with that. I agree with them 100%. I would hate to see them become the weekend lounge and corporate party act the DDY has become. If anything DDY is trying to emulate Styx by using their name in everything he does and he not doing a very good job of it. I can say this because I have seen a DDY show. Some of you who rip Styx have not even seen them live.
You may not like what Dennis offers, but let's face it, he helps keep their name alive. Given the amount of television time he has been given recently, the success he had in Canada (which sadly the band couldn't achieve), and the generally positive reviews his shows have garnered, I would think you would at least acknowledge he is doing a good job with what he has to work with. Doesn't mean you have to like it.
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Jodes wrote:Well Dennis knew an opportunity in Canada when he saw one.. He knows that Canadians still love his music and his manager is a very smart man. So why not try and build up a market in Canada and see if you can make a go in the US. It worked once before, I know the music business has completely changed. But honestly, when was the last time you heard of a 59 year old having a Platinum album anywhere?
Styx's management burned their bridges in Canada after 2003. Yes they've done the odd show here and there, but their two biggest markets, Toronto and Montreal won't have anything to do with them anymore.
It's what happens when you piss off the wrong people.
Styx had the potential and was doing well in Canada (two successful Canadian tours, etc) until a very poor (or smart in some eyes) business decision had them cancel those two Canadian shows.
Personally I don't blame the band, I blame the people that run them.
Obviously they don't think there's a market for them in Canada, hence why they don't tour here anymore. Dennis took advantage of that and he's come across as the "winner" on this side of the border anyways.
Mention that on a certain site though, and it comes across as me "bashing" the band.
One can nevere win!
sadie65 wrote:Jodes wrote:Well Dennis knew an opportunity in Canada when he saw one.. He knows that Canadians still love his music and his manager is a very smart man. So why not try and build up a market in Canada and see if you can make a go in the US. It worked once before, I know the music business has completely changed. But honestly, when was the last time you heard of a 59 year old having a Platinum album anywhere?
Styx's management burned their bridges in Canada after 2003. Yes they've done the odd show here and there, but their two biggest markets, Toronto and Montreal won't have anything to do with them anymore.
It's what happens when you piss off the wrong people.
Styx had the potential and was doing well in Canada (two successful Canadian tours, etc) until a very poor (or smart in some eyes) business decision had them cancel those two Canadian shows.
Personally I don't blame the band, I blame the people that run them.
The way I understood it ,when SARS broke out.They could get in here and play no problem.The problem was,they would maybe have a hard time getting back in to the US.
If there was any suspicion they/roadies or any other from the touring party had been near someone with SARS ,it could totally have stalled the rest of their engagements right after the CN dates,becuse they would have been stuck here.
Obviously they don't think there's a market for them in Canada, hence why they don't tour here anymore. Dennis took advantage of that and he's come across as the "winner" on this side of the border anyways.
Mention that on a certain site though, and it comes across as me "bashing" the band.
One can nevere win!
I remember when they cancelled. Didn't it have something to do with the outbreak of that virus? I am not being facetious here. Genuine question. I agree. I don't blame the band for the decisions made. What a shame for the fans there. Seriously.
gr8dane wrote:sadie65 wrote:Jodes wrote:Well Dennis knew an opportunity in Canada when he saw one.. He knows that Canadians still love his music and his manager is a very smart man. So why not try and build up a market in Canada and see if you can make a go in the US. It worked once before, I know the music business has completely changed. But honestly, when was the last time you heard of a 59 year old having a Platinum album anywhere?
Styx's management burned their bridges in Canada after 2003. Yes they've done the odd show here and there, but their two biggest markets, Toronto and Montreal won't have anything to do with them anymore.
It's what happens when you piss off the wrong people.
Styx had the potential and was doing well in Canada (two successful Canadian tours, etc) until a very poor (or smart in some eyes) business decision had them cancel those two Canadian shows.
Personally I don't blame the band, I blame the people that run them.
Obviously they don't think there's a market for them in Canada, hence why they don't tour here anymore. Dennis took advantage of that and he's come across as the "winner" on this side of the border anyways.
Mention that on a certain site though, and it comes across as me "bashing" the band.
One can nevere win!
I remember when they cancelled. Didn't it have something to do with the outbreak of that virus? I am not being facetious here. Genuine question. I agree. I don't blame the band for the decisions made. What a shame for the fans there. Seriously.
I know the music business has completely changed. But honestly, when was the last time you heard of a 59 year old having a Platinum album anywhere?
Jodes wrote:G8dane, yes I understand that decision from a business perspective, BUT they played a show in Michigan the night before Toronto and then played in Buffalo after they cancelled Montreal.
Buffalo is a LOT closer to Toronto then Montreal is.. that's what upset a lot of people, the Toronto show I can understand, but cancelling the Montreal show even before getting to Toronto was a bad call on their part. There was no SARS in Montreal or in cities near Toronto, but they still cancelled.
Also, the radio stations that brought Styx in to do the promo were left dangling.. in the terms of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Yet they did manage to play their "paying gigs".. that were closer to Toronto..
Can you now see why many are upset?
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Not true! Styx wants to distance them selves from the wimpy Babe/First Time/Roboto/Music Time part of their past not the rock band part and I think they are doing a great job with that. I agree with them 100%. I would hate to see them become the weekend lounge and corporate party act the DDY has become. If anything DDY is trying to emulate Styx by using their name in everything he does and he not doing a very good job of it. I can say this because I have seen a DDY show. Some of you who rip Styx have not even seen them live.
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Not true! Styx wants to distance them selves from the wimpy Babe/First Time/Roboto/Music Time part of their past not the rock band part and I think they are doing a great job with that. I agree with them 100%. I would hate to see them become the weekend lounge and corporate party act the DDY has become. If anything DDY is trying to emulate Styx by using their name in everything he does and he not doing a very good job of it. I can say this because I have seen a DDY show. Some of you who rip Styx have not even seen them live.
I have seen a few Styx shows since "the break-up", so I can pretty much post my opinion on both parties!![]()
bugsymalone wrote:I gotta add my .02 here in defense of PBS. They have often presented some of the most cutting edge rock and roll on their "Austin City Limits" programming. And Soundstage has also presented some of the big-name rock acts and performers. (Tom Petty, anyone?).
They do their share of showing filmed/taped concerts from over-the-hill performers and REALLY over-the-hill performers (Anyone see the folk music special?? Talk about your "mighty wind"!), but often these are acts a lot of people enjoy seeing and who sold an awful lot of recordings in their day.
I think it is great for Current Styx to get some airings of the CYO orchestra event on any outlet and PBS is certainly a fine choice.
It will remain to be seen how many PBS stations pick up this concert. So far, in my area, no sign of it. I will watch it if it comes on since I won't be buying the DVD. (I know, BIG shock there!)
Bugsy
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