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Postby askskeeter » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:14 am

Styx needs to follow Journey's tracks and find a new singer to replace Larry. While, I believe that Larry is talented, the Shooz do not fit any more.

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Re: New Singer

Postby froy » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:17 am

askskeeter wrote:Styx needs to follow Journey's tracks and find a new singer to replace Larry. While, I believe that Larry is talented, the Shooz do not fit any more.

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Re: New Singer

Postby Saint John » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 am

askskeeter wrote:Styx needs to follow Journey's tracks and find a new singer to replace Larry. While, I believe that Larry is talented, the Shooz do not fit any more.

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I live in Chicago, IN the city and have my entire 35 years of existence. Ironically, Styx formed less than 4 miles from my house. Furthermore, the Panozzo brothers are still known to many in the suburb of South Holland. Styx was a once mighty band. My favorite? No. But a hell of a band nonetheless. I just can't comprehend why they can't patch things up with Dennis DeYoung. He still sounds so fuckin' good and his creativity is sorely missed. Sure, he had some snoozers and his vision was vastly different than the others at one time, BUT his talents are undeniable. He's the piece of the puzzle that is missing. Until they reconcile, Styx will continue to be an engine not firing on all of its cylinders. It's a true shame that shit like this happens.
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:21 pm

Don't you think Journey is following in Styx' footsteps? Grabbing a singer that sounds similar at times to the person he replaced, but has his own style.

That aside, Here's my take on what is holding up the reunion.

Dennis won't tour the number of dates that Tommy and JY want to.

Mostly JY and in part Tommy, want to play the harder side of Styx, but I don't believe it would take much arm twisting for Tommy to strap on the acoustic.

JY has way to much pride to back down on the things he has said

Current Styx wants one more shot at making a successful album and climbing everest again.

Probably won't see even a possibility of this til 2010.
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Postby froy » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:35 am

Current Styx wants one more shot at making a successful album and climbing everest again.

Probably won't see even a possibility of this til 2010.
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I say we see Dennis back in 2008
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Postby Ash » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:45 am

froy wrote:3 strikes and your out
The only big cd left for STYX is a reunion cd
Thats it

I say we see Dennis back in 2008



GAH froy - bite your tongue. Dennis doesn't need those assholes. F-em.

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Postby yogi » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:56 am

I will put my two cents in on a few aspects of the Styx puzzle.

Saying that all the band wants to do is ROCK and Tour Endlessly is starting to get old & is starting to become unbelieveable.

Most everyone here knows that is a bunch of shit. If all that they want to do is rock then someone explain to me why ONE of the two new songs on their current live release is 'Just Be'. Thats 50% of their new material. 'Just Be' is EVERY BIT as soft as Babe. So was 'Yes I Can' off of the Cyclorama CD. Both songs are decent, but they sure dont rock.

I believe JY would gladly put on his Dr. Rightous uniform bark like a dog for 20 minutes then belt out I Am Woman , Sailing, & Walk Like An Egyptian in succession if it could bring him back the fame he sooooooooooo desperately craves.

Finally, and I TRULY believe this, the entire bunch(Styx) would be MORE than HAPPY playing 30 - 40 dates a year if those carefully selected dates could bring in the same amount of jack as they earn playing 120 dates per year.
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Postby froy » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:04 am

Finally, and I TRULY believe this, the entire bunch(Styx) would be MORE than HAPPY playing 30 - 40 dates a year if those carefully selected dates could bring in the same amount of jack as they earn playing 120 dates per year.
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Which is exactly what Dennis has said all along,
Less is more end of story.
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Postby Ash » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:56 am

yogi wrote:I will put my two cents in on a few aspects of the Styx puzzle.

Saying that all the band wants to do is ROCK and Tour Endlessly is starting to get old & is starting to become unbelieveable.

Most everyone here knows that is a bunch of shit. If all that they want to do is rock then someone explain to me why ONE of the two new songs on their current live release is 'Just Be'. Thats 50% of their new material. 'Just Be' is EVERY BIT as soft as Babe. So was 'Yes I Can' off of the Cyclorama CD. Both songs are decent, but they sure dont rock.

I believe JY would gladly put on his Dr. Rightous uniform bark like a dog for 20 minutes then belt out I Am Woman , Sailing, & Walk Like An Egyptian in succession if it could bring him back the fame he sooooooooooo desperately craves.

Finally, and I TRULY believe this, the entire bunch(Styx) would be MORE than HAPPY playing 30 - 40 dates a year if those carefully selected dates could bring in the same amount of jack as they earn playing 120 dates per year.



This wasn't about them being happy. It was about them sticking it to Dennis. They wanted to prove to the world they could do it without him... and they can. They CAN do it without him - they just can't do it as well or make as much money.
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Postby gr8dane » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:03 am

Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:I will put my two cents in on a few aspects of the Styx puzzle.

Saying that all the band wants to do is ROCK and Tour Endlessly is starting to get old & is starting to become unbelieveable.

Most everyone here knows that is a bunch of shit. If all that they want to do is rock then someone explain to me why ONE of the two new songs on their current live release is 'Just Be'. Thats 50% of their new material. 'Just Be' is EVERY BIT as soft as Babe. So was 'Yes I Can' off of the Cyclorama CD. Both songs are decent, but they sure dont rock.

I believe JY would gladly put on his Dr. Rightous uniform bark like a dog for 20 minutes then belt out I Am Woman , Sailing, & Walk Like An Egyptian in succession if it could bring him back the fame he sooooooooooo desperately craves.

Finally, and I TRULY believe this, the entire bunch(Styx) would be MORE than HAPPY playing 30 - 40 dates a year if those carefully selected dates could bring in the same amount of jack as they earn playing 120 dates per year.



This wasn't about them being happy. It was about them sticking it to Dennis. They wanted to prove to the world they could do it without him... and they can. They CAN do it without him - they just can't do it as well or make as much money.


I guess some people don't mind taking a paycut.If it makes work more enjoyable.
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Postby Ash » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:13 am

gr8dane wrote:I guess some people don't mind taking a paycut.If it makes work more enjoyable.



I think DFB expected to be more successful... and I think they blame Dennis for their lack of success in places. They never expected Dennis to tour or do albums and what not... and certainly if he did then he wouldn't be a success. Dennis' activity and success isn't something that DFB counted on... and JY's not happy because he feels like Dennis has hurt DFB by continuing to tour and make records.

Hence the source of JY's recent stupid remarks.
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Postby shaka » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:55 pm

yogi wrote:I will put my two cents in on a few aspects of the Styx puzzle.

Saying that all the band wants to do is ROCK and Tour Endlessly is starting to get old & is starting to become unbelieveable.

Most everyone here knows that is a bunch of shit. If all that they want to do is rock then someone explain to me why ONE of the two new songs on their current live release is 'Just Be'. Thats 50% of their new material. 'Just Be' is EVERY BIT as soft as Babe. So was 'Yes I Can' off of the Cyclorama CD. Both songs are decent, but they sure dont rock.


Just Be is not a ballad by arrangement or subject matter. Personally I think you're way off base. You have a much better argument with Yes I Can.
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Postby Zan » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:30 pm

shaka wrote:
yogi wrote:I will put my two cents in on a few aspects of the Styx puzzle.

Saying that all the band wants to do is ROCK and Tour Endlessly is starting to get old & is starting to become unbelieveable.

Most everyone here knows that is a bunch of shit. If all that they want to do is rock then someone explain to me why ONE of the two new songs on their current live release is 'Just Be'. Thats 50% of their new material. 'Just Be' is EVERY BIT as soft as Babe. So was 'Yes I Can' off of the Cyclorama CD. Both songs are decent, but they sure dont rock.


Just Be is not a ballad by arrangement or subject matter. Personally I think you're way off base. You have a much better argument with Yes I Can.



Some people don't know the difference between a slow tempo'ed song and a ballad.
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Hmm...

Postby NCscarab » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:00 pm

Well, I have seen Styx 3 times without Dennis DeYoung and I can honestly say that I really didn't miss him.I thought Tommy, Lawrence and Glenn all did an excellent job on vocals and I have to say that I like the setlist being a bit heavier.

I will also say that I really liked Cyclorama and would like to see another release of new material in the near future.
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Postby Ash » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:33 pm

thats cool - because right now I'm sure Dennis isn't missing those guys either.
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Postby brywool » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:11 am

I don't agree at all. The best new styx songs have all been his and he pumps the band up in a way the former keyboardist never could.
If I hear another song with "Paradise" in it, I'm going to hurl.

Larry's got my vote.

The Styx shows are exciting events since Dennis left in my opinion. They're a more rocking band which I prefer.
No slam on Dennis, who I think is incredible, but he's not a ROCK guy anymore. The last ROCK song Dennis wrote was Boomchild. Nothing on Brave New World that he did rocked. Nothing on Edge that he wrote rocked. Nothing on Kilroy that he wrote rocked.

I think people need to get over it. If you dig Dennis, go to his shows, but I don't get the constant running down of Styx.
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Postby sadie65 » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:57 am

I'm not sure what the band's future holds, but it seems pretty sure that with or without Dennis back in the fold, the band is past its prime in terms of another "Santana" moment. Fame is fleeting for most.

While this incarnation is not my cup of tea, I do applaud the efforts and tenacity of Larry Gowan. It's a thankless task to step into an established role. Just as its an unenviable role to reinvent yourself when you leave that role.

To all members, past and present, I hope that the adulation you seek doesn't wane for you.

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Postby brywool » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:18 am

If Cyclo didn't push them back into the mainstream, nothing will. Also, they really need Burtnik in the band too. It won't happen though.
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Postby sadie65 » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:24 am

brywool wrote:If Cyclo didn't push them back into the mainstream, nothing will. Also, they really need Burtnik in the band too. It won't happen though.


Cyclo most likely would not have pushed them back into the mainstream. As for Burtnik back in the band...nah. I think that ship sailed.

I honestly see the band going a few more years and then fading out. Not meant in a negative way...moreso, they've run their course. It's a natural progression.
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Postby styxfansite » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:50 am

My two cents.

How could CYCLO help them at all? To me Brave New World was better. The only part I didn't like was that they didn't really work together on the album. They did miss one "opportunity" with Glen's song on Cyclo.
It would be very hard to get Glen to go back to those guys when he is happy doing what he is doing and performing some with DDY. It would be like getting Steve Perry to rejoin Journey for one night. Neal told him he would love him to be a special guest, but Steve doesn't want to.

Has Styx produced an "Original" song that made it up to the top 10 yet since 99? Have they had a album thet went Platnium in Canada yet? Are any of the guys on tv besides DDY? Jy on Court Tv doesn't count :).

To me Styx was never a full blown "Rock" band like Jy wanted. They were like Journey (Classic Journey, not like Lipsync Journey), and REO speedwagon, playing different types of music. Chuck said it in an email to me once, when I commented on Styx on his site, he said this and I quote
I share your disappointment with the break up of the original Styx. When my Brother John passed away I knew that Styx would never be the same band again. I still have my moments where I wonder why some memebers couldn't get over the Ego wars. I thank you for sharing your comments. They have validated what I now what should or could be.
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Postby Blue Falcon » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:58 am

sadie65 wrote:
I honestly see the band going a few more years and then fading out. Not meant in a negative way...moreso, they've run their course. It's a natural progression.


Who says they didn't fade out years ago...say, around 1998?
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Postby styxdudebrandon » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:44 pm

brywool wrote:I don't agree at all. The best new styx songs have all been his and he pumps the band up in a way the former keyboardist never could.
If I hear another song with "Paradise" in it, I'm going to hurl.

Larry's got my vote.

The Styx shows are exciting events since Dennis left in my opinion. They're a more rocking band which I prefer.
No slam on Dennis, who I think is incredible, but he's not a ROCK guy anymore. The last ROCK song Dennis wrote was Boomchild. Nothing on Brave New World that he did rocked. Nothing on Edge that he wrote rocked. Nothing on Kilroy that he wrote rocked.

I think people need to get over it. If you dig Dennis, go to his shows, but I don't get the constant running down of Styx.


I agree with you 100%
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Re: Hmm...

Postby rajah2165 » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:02 pm

NCscarab wrote:Well, I have seen Styx 3 times without Dennis DeYoung and I can honestly say that I really didn't miss him.I thought Tommy, Lawrence and Glenn all did an excellent job on vocals and I have to say that I like the setlist being a bit heavier.

I will also say that I really liked Cyclorama and would like to see another release of new material in the near future.


Lets just say that they miss the success that they had with him

Dennis is 10 times more successful by himself than DSB is without him.
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Postby rajah2165 » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:02 pm

styxdudebrandon wrote:
brywool wrote:I don't agree at all. The best new styx songs have all been his and he pumps the band up in a way the former keyboardist never could.
If I hear another song with "Paradise" in it, I'm going to hurl.

Larry's got my vote.

The Styx shows are exciting events since Dennis left in my opinion. They're a more rocking band which I prefer.
No slam on Dennis, who I think is incredible, but he's not a ROCK guy anymore. The last ROCK song Dennis wrote was Boomchild. Nothing on Brave New World that he did rocked. Nothing on Edge that he wrote rocked. Nothing on Kilroy that he wrote rocked.

I think people need to get over it. If you dig Dennis, go to his shows, but I don't get the constant running down of Styx.


I agree with you 100%


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Postby brywool » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:01 am

No, I know Glen's not coming back. It'd just be cool if he did ;)
BNW better than Cyclo?? I can't agree there at all. Cyclo was everything I wanted a Styx album to be. It was a great piece of work. BNW was fractured with a few good songs on it.
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Postby brywool » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:07 am

styxfansite wrote:My two cents.

How could CYCLO help them at all? To me Brave New World was better. The only part I didn't like was that they didn't really work together on the album. They did miss one "opportunity" with Glen's song on Cyclo.
It would be very hard to get Glen to go back to those guys when he is happy doing what he is doing and performing some with DDY. It would be like getting Steve Perry to rejoin Journey for one night. Neal told him he would love him to be a special guest, but Steve doesn't want to.

Has Styx produced an "Original" song that made it up to the top 10 yet since 99? Have they had a album thet went Platnium in Canada yet? Are any of the guys on tv besides DDY? Jy on Court Tv doesn't count :).

To me Styx was never a full blown "Rock" band like Jy wanted. They were like Journey (Classic Journey, not like Lipsync Journey), and REO speedwagon, playing different types of music. Chuck said it in an email to me once, when I commented on Styx on his site, he said this and I quote
I share your disappointment with the break up of the original Styx. When my Brother John passed away I knew that Styx would never be the same band again. I still have my moments where I wonder why some memebers couldn't get over the Ego wars. I thank you for sharing your comments. They have validated what I now what should or could be.


Styx is all over public television right now with the CYO show. The Ego comment was directed at Dennis I would guess as we've seen where Chuck's allegance lies. I know Glen wouldn't rejoin. Just wish he would. :) I loved his stuff with the band both on Cyclo and Edge.
Has Dennis produced an "original" song that made the top ten since 99? Has he written a ROCK song since 1981? I guess he did do Boomchild but that's it. The rest have all been slower songs for the Michael Bolton crowd. I guess he DID do "A Love Foretold" which pretty much stomps all rock bands from Zepplin to Van Halen in the ground ;)

Styx and Dennis are no longer relevant to pop music. You know what? Neither are McCartney the Stones or Pink Floyd. But I'd go see any of them in a flat minute including Styx or Deyoung. ROCK bands aren't relevant anymore period. Bon Jovi, uh, I guess. But what they're doing now ain't really rock, is it.
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:12 am

brywool wrote:No, I know Glen's not coming back. It'd just be cool if he did ;)
BNW better than Cyclo?? I can't agree there at all. Cyclo was everything I wanted a Styx album to be. It was a great piece of work. BNW was fractured with a few good songs on it.


I'm with you on this one.

BNW was an album of missed opportunities that sounds like a band going through a divorce. A few good songs, a couple of ok songs, and all the songs needed to be produced differently.

Cyclo was a solid album. If you take out the 60 second snipets between songs, its a stronger album. You can say they were taking shots at Dennis, but even if they were, the album is solid - so what. Their record company didn't promote it well and some will point to sales numbers, but musicly it holds up.
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Postby brywool » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:14 am

EXACTLY. The snippets were just bits of atmosphere like Aku Aku, or "Can You Take Me Back" from the White Album. I thought it added to the album.
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Postby sadie65 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:33 am

Now see, I don't think Cyclo was all that great. It seemed to me that the band was trying very hard to stay at the forefront musically speaking. Something they did with every album. I just don't think they succeeded. Honestly, for me, the only song that holds up well is These Are the Times.

BNW was equally lacking. I think it was handled poorly by all involved.
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Postby styxfansite » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:02 am

Styx is all over public television right now with the CYO show.


That is "ONE" show as a "RE-RUN" on HDnet which you have to pay to get. Dennis is all over FOX, VH1, Canada Tv, even Chicago Channel 9 and could be more on the way from FOX, like American Idol.

The Ego comment was directed at Dennis I would guess as we've seen where Chuck's allegance lies


Very Shaky Alliance.... Keep guessing :) Also after I sent him the styxnet problem, he was a little upset.

I know Glen wouldn't rejoin. Just wish he would


After the comments I have seen from him and another band member, that is VERY unlikely right now.

Has Dennis produced an "original" song that made the top ten since 99?Has he written a ROCK song since 1981?


His hands have been tied with lawsuits :D . He wrote many songs that made the top 10, but you are correct, none of which were "ROCK".

Styx and Dennis are no longer relevant to pop music. You know what? Neither are McCartney the Stones or Pink Floyd. But I'd go see any of them in a flat minute including Styx or Deyoung. ROCK bands aren't relevant anymore period. Bon Jovi, uh, I guess. But what they're doing now ain't really rock, is it.


Lets not forget Journey, which my question is still hanging around somewhere, Why doesn't Neal want to preform with Styx again? That was a very touchy question to him. They may have found the lipsync machine and was scared they might tell someone, ooopse to late :D .
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