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yogi wrote:It's a good album....., but I thought that it was a HUGE step backwards when compared to Equinox.
stabbim wrote:yogi wrote:It's a good album....., but I thought that it was a HUGE step backwards when compared to Equinox.
I consider it a pretty big step forward, songwriting-wise. Much more stylistic variety and some very welcome new soulfulness, courtesy of TS. That variety lends itself to less musical cohesion (an issue that the band has struggled with ever since) and to my ear the production isn't quite as strong as Equinox's, but it was definitely a necessary step in the band's evolution. Still one of my favs.
brywool wrote:I used to listen to this album ALL THE TIME. I haven't for a long time as I've listened to other stuff in the years since 1978 when I bought it.
Crystal Ball, to me, is the BEST Styx album. It's got everything without all the commerciality of the later albums. Not that those were all 'hits' but it's just a great album. If I had to pick my favorite Styx albums, it'd be this one, Grand Illusion and probably Cyclorama. (Oh God, here it comes- bite me!).
Crystal Ball just had such a cool vibe all the way through. Love that one. Hey, was Ballerina performed live? That's a great great song. I seem to remember they might've played it on the Grand Illusion tour, but I can't remember, that was so long ago. Jennifer and This Old Man were probably the weakest tracks, but still great tracks and very "wooden nickel" to me with better production.
Just an opinion.
brywool wrote:stabbim wrote:yogi wrote:It's a good album....., but I thought that it was a HUGE step backwards when compared to Equinox.
I consider it a pretty big step forward, songwriting-wise. Much more stylistic variety and some very welcome new soulfulness, courtesy of TS. That variety lends itself to less musical cohesion (an issue that the band has struggled with ever since) and to my ear the production isn't quite as strong as Equinox's, but it was definitely a necessary step in the band's evolution. Still one of my favs.
This was my perception as well. Equinox is also a masterpiece. Great album, but I think Lonely Child and Mother Dear are incredibly dated sounding. To me Crystal Ball comes off as a pretty timeless album. I would wonder if I had purchased Equinox in 75 and then CB in 76, I might've felt the way that yogi felt, but I think as it gets longer and longer ago, that CB just stands up better and doesn't sound so 1975. Just my opinion. Ballerina is one of my all time favorite Dennis tracks. I just dig the whole sentiment of it and the chord changes as well. Very cool. I like Madame Blue too, but maybe I've just heard it (and I played and sang it forever too) too much.
On the soul end, Tommy's slide work on Shooz (gotta be him, right?) is really good and definitely brings a bit of the blues in. I remember reading an interview with him during the Damn Yankees years when he said something to the effect of "Yeah, I did some slide in Styx once, and they asked me never to do it again" or something like that. He's a hell of a slide player.
brywool wrote:I used to listen to this album ALL THE TIME. I haven't for a long time as I've listened to other stuff in the years since 1978 when I bought it.
Crystal Ball, to me, is the BEST Styx album. It's got everything without all the commerciality of the later albums. Not that those were all 'hits' but it's just a great album. If I had to pick my favorite Styx albums, it'd be this one, Grand Illusion and probably Cyclorama. (Oh God, here it comes- bite me!).
Crystal Ball just had such a cool vibe all the way through. Love that one. Hey, was Ballerina performed live? That's a great great song. I seem to remember they might've played it on the Grand Illusion tour, but I can't remember, that was so long ago. Jennifer and This Old Man were probably the weakest tracks, but still great tracks and very "wooden nickel" to me with better production.
Just an opinion.
yogi wrote:The first Styx album I ever purchased was The Grand Illusion( 1977). I was sooo blown away by it. I bet I listened to nothing but that album for six months.
After that I went out and bought Equinox and Crystal Ball the same day. After hearing Equinox I rarely even gave the Grand Illusion a spin for months.
At the time I remember thinking that Crystal Ball was very weak compared to The Grand Illusion and Equinox. I rarely played that album.
To this day Equinox is the ONLY album that I ever wore out. I had to purchase that album again because I had played Side 2 sooooo much I literally wore it out( skipped in so many places).I will always believe that as far as albums go that Side 2 of Equinox was the best album side EVER. Side 2 of Pieces Of Eight #2 in my book, but not even close.
Saying that album sounds dated I suggest that you find the best stereo possible and crank up Midnight Ride, Born For adventure, Prelude 12 & Suite Madame Blue. Then post here again as to it sounding dated.
I DONT THINK SO!
At any rate Crystal Ball has grown on me more over the years. I felt then and I still feel now that Dennis's contributions on that album were real weak when compared to Light Up, Lorelei, Lonely Child, and his two TOTAL masterpieces Born For Adventure and Suite Madame Blue. I felt that This Old Man was by far his best song on that album.
It's a good album that has grown on me more over the years. Still it can't compare to Equinox(album before), or The Grand Illusion(album after).
LordofDaRing wrote: It is the sudtle things that put this album way over the top for me: The factory noises Dennis makes during This Old Man, the finger snapping intro to Shooz, the sped up track of Put Me On,
LordofDaRing wrote:only Styx could turn a song like Jenifer (she's 17? yipes) into a great song. I hope DDY was 17 when he wrote it.
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