STYX Reunion Rumblings

[brywool]

Was there bad feeling when Glen left Styx recently ?

No. Glen was tired of endless touring and wanted to spend more time with his family and finish his solo album.

Is he now working with Dennis on his new rock solo cd or just playing a few gigs here and there?

Not sure, anything's possible.

Queenie? *g*

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

[styxfansite]

Was there bad feeling when Glen left Styx recently ?

No. Glen was tired of endless touring and wanted to spend more time with his family and finish his solo album.

Is he now working with Dennis on his new rock solo cd or just playing a few gigs here and there?

Not sure, anything's possible.

Queenie? *g*

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

Wasn't he also mad about the Cyclorama CD and not getting "Kiss YOur Ass Goodbye" as a single?

[Zan]

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

Wasn't he also mad about the Cyclorama CD and not getting "Kiss YOur Ass Goodbye" as a single?

Wrong, wrong. None of the above. What it may have seemed like "to you" was NOT the case, at least not the reasoning behind Glen's departure. If Glen was "annoyed" about not being on an even playing field (something of which he has said time & time again that he was FULLY aware of and ACCEPTING of from DAY ONE), it had nothing to do with why he left the band. When he originally signed on for this "tour," he was supposed to be playing on 30 (that's right, 30) shows. 600+ shows later, he was fatigued and tired of the life on the road - his kids were gowing (two had already grown into adults), and he missed his humble life back home, as modest as it may have been. The reason he waited as long as he did was because a) the money was good, and b) he felt bad about letting people who needed him down. Two reasons why I haven't left one of my gigs that I hate so much! (I hate it because it's too tiresome and puts strain on my voice and keeps me up too late on a weeknight). Perhaps his lack of input made the decision easier, but it was certainly NOT the cause.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Why is that so hard for you people to grasp? He has said on NUMEROUS occasions that he bears NO ill feelings towards the guys in the band but is glad he got out for his own personal reasons.

Stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

[stabbim]

Wrong, wrong. None of the above. What it may have seemed like "to you" was NOT the case, at least not the reasoning behind Glen's departure. If Glen was "annoyed" about not being on an even playing field (something of which he has said time & time again that he was FULLY aware of and ACCEPTING of from DAY ONE), it had nothing to do with why he left the band. When he originally signed on for this "tour," he was supposed to be playing on 30 (that's right, 30) shows. 600+ shows later, he was fatigued and tired of the life on the road - his kids were gowing (two had already grown into adults), and he missed his humble life back home, as modest as it may have been. The reason he waited as long as he did was because a) the money was good, and b) he felt bad about letting people who needed him down. Two reasons why I haven't left one of my gigs that I hate so much! (I hate it because it's too tiresome and puts strain on my voice and keeps me up too late on a weeknight). Perhaps his lack of input made the decision easier, but it was certainly NOT the cause.

I'd say it was probably a little from Column A, a little from Column B.

He was putting in a disproportionate amount of time and effort (and not seeing his family very much while doing so) relative to how much the band actually utilized what he could bring to the table. Let's face it, the guy was way overqualified for the job he was doing, but they were never gonna put him in the driver's seat...and no matter how zen with that arrangement he may have been up front, the longer the touring stretched on the harder it must have been to rationalize being involved on the sideman level.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Well...I don't know how or if it played into GB's decision-making, but I do recall it being a genuinely bungled effort on the part of the band &/or management -- not just fan-fueled Monday morning quarterbacking.

[Zan]

Let's face it, the guy was way overqualified for the job he was doing, but they were never gonna put him in the driver's seat...and no matter how zen with that arrangement he may have been up front, the longer the touring stretched on the harder it must have been to rationalize being involved on the sideman level.

Right. Like I said, it made the decision easier, I'm sure. There was no incentive to stay other than the money he was making. But the fact remained that Glen was discontent with the constant touring and being away from home for a long time before he actually left. And, as was stated before, the original agreement was to do 30 shows. It was never meant to be permanent. He would have likely wanted to leave regardless, only been that much more "stuck" had they utilized his skills better.

However, I think discussions like this one are more about adding fuel to the fire or stirring up controversy than anything else.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Well...I don't know how or if it played into GB's decision-making, but I do recall it being a genuinely bungled effort on the part of the band &/or management -- not just fan-fueled Monday morning quarterbacking.

Personally, I never heard or read Glen make any remarks about being upset by it. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but I don't recall him making any complaints publically, aside from the off-hand remark as a former band member with a dose of hind-sight, as Glen was certainly not in a position to argue his importance like 'that other guy' was. I remember several fans were disappointed with the way it was ignored as a possible single, especially aftre what, 4 or 5 others were released before it?

We can speculate as fans, but I think Glen went out of is way NOT to portray any animousity. He had signed up for what he got, and his reasons for leaving were noble, not sour grapes, IMO.

[stabbim]

And, as was stated before, the original agreement was to do 30 shows. It was never meant to be permanent.

Only 30 shows? Really? Considering the people involved, I can only assume this was before the DDY split...or else they were extremely apprehensive about hitting the road with a new lineup.

We can speculate as fans, but I think Glen went out of is way NOT to portray any animousity. He had signed up for what he got, and his reasons for leaving were noble, not sour grapes, IMO.

I agree that he has been very civil, and I wouldn't characterize his leaving as "sour grapes" either.

[Blue Falcon]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

[Zan]

And, as was stated before, the original agreement was to do 30 shows. It was never meant to be permanent.

Only 30 shows? Really? Considering the people involved, I can only assume this was before the DDY split...or else they were extremely apprehensive about hitting the road with a new lineup.

I think the original tour (the 1999 Tour that officially ended in '02) that was to support BNW was supposed to be only around 30 shows, was what Glen was first asked to do by Chuck. The way I recall it, the tour gained momentum, and far be it for the parties involved to turn down. My memory could be shaky on this (I can check into it later if you want, tho I'm pretty certain), but I'm fairly sure this was the initial agreement that Glen signed on for. I'm sure no one expected them to be going this long. I know I didn't.

[ChicagoSTYX]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

With holidays and vacation most us work about 240 days a year. We must not like our families either. .......and they have fun at their 4 hour work day!!

[styxfansite]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

With holidays and vacation most us work about 240 days a year. We must not like our families either. .......and they have fun at their 4 hour work day!!

There is a difference though. Styx is on the road, which means when they get through performing, they go to a motel room and call home or email home or IM home. When someone like myself gets off work, I go home to my family. ALthough that can't be said about many people that work, it is true for most that are not performers. Styx's home for those 200 shows is a motel or on the bus.

[Blue Falcon]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

With holidays and vacation most us work about 240 days a year. We must not like our families either. .......and they have fun at their 4 hour work day!!

Ah, but we don't spend three months at a time riding around in a bus and not seeing our effing loved ones, do we?

[Zan]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

With holidays and vacation most us work about 240 days a year. We must not like our families either. .......and they have fun at their 4 hour work day!!

Ah, but we don't spend three months at a time riding around in a bus and not seeing our effing loved ones, do we?

I don't understand your logic here. Tommy and JY hate their families because they like being on the road? Yet, Tommy & JY are the ones who get to bring their spouses along on the tour (and no one else can). Dennis was the mac daddy of bringing his spouse (AND KIDS) on the road with him, so I don't see where that affected him at all at the time he was touring with Styx. I would think if Tommy & JY didn't LIKE their families, they wouldn't let them tag along.

I mean, if you shd said only THEY are allowed to be with their families, that would have made more sense...but you didn't. lol

[rajah2165]

Welcome aboard...if someone named Zan starts accusing you of being someone with more than one identity - just ignore her - she does that with whoever supports DDY....And ignore Brywool completely....

Only You, my pitiful little friend. But I'm flattered to be in Bry's company, regardless.

Hey, remember that time you...I mean "Dan" emailed me, Dawn-Marie, and Glen about Damn Yankees a few years back?

Or how about when you went demanding a refund for a concert you never saw then backpeddling when it was offered to you by the band themselves? I think you called Keith "Guido." Classic.

Or the time you referred to Kim Christopher, the girl who died of Spina Biffida, as a "retard?"

And all those posts about how Styx fans are nothing but fat, middle-aged housewives...

Oh, and what about that pothead guy on Styxland? He was a lot of fun too.

I still have the phony picture you sent of yourself too. It went along with all the emails telling me about your sexual conquests. This, of course, was during the time you were trying to be my "confidant" to get me tell you all the juicy "insider information" I had (even though I had virtually none, and would have never in a million years given to you if I had).

Oh god, remember when my fiances' brother died, and you sent me that heartfelt email telling me that I was a whore?

ALL brilliant, my friend. Some of us from the old board still laugh at how proud of yourself you were to reveal that Dan never existed and how you have assumed over a two dozen identities in Styxland over the course of time. Like this was something to boast about, or like anyone cared.

When someone like you sarcastically refers to me as a good person, I am honestly relieved.

Oh, by the way, welcome Citta...I'll give you credit enough to learn who is full of shit around here on your own. It shouldn't take long.

I am not even going to acknowledge this slanderous list of lies except to say one thing from arguably the best written, best performed Styx classic of all time, "Just Fell In"

LADY, ITS TIME FOR YOUR MEDICATION!!!

[rajah2165]

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

Wasn't he also mad about the Cyclorama CD and not getting "Kiss YOur Ass Goodbye" as a single?

Wrong, wrong. None of the above. What it may have seemed like "to you" was NOT the case, at least not the reasoning behind Glen's departure. If Glen was "annoyed" about not being on an even playing field (something of which he has said time & time again that he was FULLY aware of and ACCEPTING of from DAY ONE), it had nothing to do with why he left the band. When he originally signed on for this "tour," he was supposed to be playing on 30 (that's right, 30) shows. 600+ shows later, he was fatigued and tired of the life on the road - his kids were gowing (two had already grown into adults), and he missed his humble life back home, as modest as it may have been. The reason he waited as long as he did was because a) the money was good, and b) he felt bad about letting people who needed him down. Two reasons why I haven't left one of my gigs that I hate so much! (I hate it because it's too tiresome and puts strain on my voice and keeps me up too late on a weeknight). Perhaps his lack of input made the decision easier, but it was certainly NOT the cause.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Why is that so hard for you people to grasp? He has said on NUMEROUS occasions that he bears NO ill feelings towards the guys in the band but is glad he got out for his own personal reasons.

Stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

You are full of it. Stop trying to not admit that there is now bad blood between Glen and Tommy/JY. I know if kills you that Glen has wised up and left those two guys and ran off and joined up with DDY. But the fact is that Glen was pissed off. He was pissed off about Susie Young and Jeanine Shaw running the band (hmm....does that sound a bit familar?). He was pissed off about the only song that had a chance to put Styx back into the limelight wasn't even considered for a single because it wasn't sung by Tommy Shaw (who has hmmm 1 top 10 hit in his entire career?). He was pissed off that they were playing to 1500 fans a night when there was no other band to split the bill. When Cyclo peetered out - he figured that this was going to be his life - a 3rd of 4th chair in a band that had certainly passed its peak and at best would continue to play in front of piss ant crowds and that he didn't need the b.s. DDY tours much less, gives Glen more songs at the table and is supposedly including him on his solo album. Glen's comment was "I've sang and played more in one night with DDY than I did in 3 years with Styx".

[Grotelul]

God help anyone in Styx who decides to have a family, and (YIKES!) actually want to spend some time with them! JY and TS either don't have kids or don't like being around their families in the first place, which is why they want to play 200 shows a year until 2030.

200 shows? Per Tommy's last interview they are now limiting themselves to 100-120 shows a year. And who are you to have an opinion about JY or TS not being around their families? You don't know anything about their FAMILIES and their relationships with their families.

[Grotelul]

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

Wasn't he also mad about the Cyclorama CD and not getting "Kiss YOur Ass Goodbye" as a single?

Wrong, wrong. None of the above. What it may have seemed like "to you" was NOT the case, at least not the reasoning behind Glen's departure. If Glen was "annoyed" about not being on an even playing field (something of which he has said time & time again that he was FULLY aware of and ACCEPTING of from DAY ONE), it had nothing to do with why he left the band. When he originally signed on for this "tour," he was supposed to be playing on 30 (that's right, 30) shows. 600+ shows later, he was fatigued and tired of the life on the road - his kids were gowing (two had already grown into adults), and he missed his humble life back home, as modest as it may have been. The reason he waited as long as he did was because a) the money was good, and b) he felt bad about letting people who needed him down. Two reasons why I haven't left one of my gigs that I hate so much! (I hate it because it's too tiresome and puts strain on my voice and keeps me up too late on a weeknight). Perhaps his lack of input made the decision easier, but it was certainly NOT the cause.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Why is that so hard for you people to grasp? He has said on NUMEROUS occasions that he bears NO ill feelings towards the guys in the band but is glad he got out for his own personal reasons.

Stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

You are full of it. Stop trying to not admit that there is now bad blood between Glen and Tommy/JY. I know if kills you that Glen has wised up and left those two guys and ran off and joined up with DDY. But the fact is that Glen was pissed off. He was pissed off about Susie Young and Jeanine Shaw running the band (hmm....does that sound a bit familar?). He was pissed off about the only song that had a chance to put Styx back into the limelight wasn't even considered for a single because it wasn't sung by Tommy Shaw (who has hmmm 1 top 10 hit in his entire career?). He was pissed off that they were playing to 1500 fans a night when there was no other band to split the bill. When Cyclo peetered out - he figured that this was going to be his life - a 3rd of 4th chair in a band that had certainly passed its peak and at best would continue to play in front of piss ant crowds and that he didn't need the b.s. DDY tours much less, gives Glen more songs at the table and is supposedly including him on his solo album. Glen's comment was "I've sang and played more in one night with DDY than I did in 3 years with Styx".

Who gives a crap what Glen thinks now. If he wants to make comments after the fact, so be it, they all do it. I'm sure he knew what he was getting into at the time. If he is sour now about his part in Styx, too bad. He could have left a long time before he did but no, he stayed. I wonder why?

[Zan]

I am not even going to acknowledge this slanderous list of lies ...!!!

Do you still believe that ANYONE buys into your adolescent games, Rajah? I'd be astonished if you did.

[Zan]

You are full of it. Stop trying to not admit that there is now bad blood between Glen and Tommy/JY. I know if kills you that Glen has wised up and left those two guys and ran off and joined up with DDY. But the fact is that Glen was pissed off. He was pissed off about Susie Young and Jeanine Shaw running the band (hmm....does that sound a bit familar?). He was pissed off about the only song that had a chance to put Styx back into the limelight wasn't even considered for a single because it wasn't sung by Tommy Shaw (who has hmmm 1 top 10 hit in his entire career?). He was pissed off that they were playing to 1500 fans a night when there was no other band to split the bill. When Cyclo peetered out - he figured that this was going to be his life - a 3rd of 4th chair in a band that had certainly passed its peak and at best would continue to play in front of piss ant crowds and that he didn't need the b.s. DDY tours much less, gives Glen more songs at the table and is supposedly including him on his solo album. Glen's comment was "I've sang and played more in one night with DDY than I did in 3 years with Styx".

This may come as a shock to you, but I don't care what any professional musican does to keep his or herself busy, Glen included - I'm happy he's getting exposure and able to play for an audience. That's all most musicians can hope for. I do find it almost comical how you sniff out single quotes to prove your point...or, whatever it is you are desperately trying to convince the world of. It brings back to mind that Dear Glen "Dan" sent in lawyerese speak, "And IN FACT, wasn't KYAG actually written about Dennis DeYoung?" Another brilliant move on your part.

How many people have you actually met in Styxland, Rajah? I'm curious if anyone has ever seen you in person. I know "Dan" has threatened to come to solo shows inthe past, but then backed out at the last minute with some lame reason. Sorta like you did when Keith (Guido) offered you that refund. Curious, that. Huh. Must be coincidence. Maybe you're just braver when you're hiding behind the comfort of your 50+ computers with multiple IP addresses. LOL

[leftovertu]

oh, dear god, can we puh-leez stop the pissing match? the trees are adequately saturated now.

[yogi]

Zan,

I believe 98% of what you have written on this 'Assembly Line' is 100% factual.

The one thing I dispute is that I do remember Glen writing on his website"Dear Glen' that 'Kiss Your Ass Goodbye' was the one song that could of put Styx back in the 'limelight' in 99, and 'they' Tommy, JY or management would not release it as a single because it did not sound like classic Styx.

Glen did write this at one time. I remember reading it.

[brywool]

I don't think that's entirely true...
Glen mentioned things not being on an even playing field with Styx. When he left, it seemed he WAS a bit annoyed to me.

Wasn't he also mad about the Cyclorama CD and not getting "Kiss YOur Ass Goodbye" as a single?

Wrong, wrong. None of the above. What it may have seemed like "to you" was NOT the case, at least not the reasoning behind Glen's departure. If Glen was "annoyed" about not being on an even playing field (something of which he has said time & time again that he was FULLY aware of and ACCEPTING of from DAY ONE), it had nothing to do with why he left the band. When he originally signed on for this "tour," he was supposed to be playing on 30 (that's right, 30) shows. 600+ shows later, he was fatigued and tired of the life on the road - his kids were gowing (two had already grown into adults), and he missed his humble life back home, as modest as it may have been. The reason he waited as long as he did was because a) the money was good, and b) he felt bad about letting people who needed him down. Two reasons why I haven't left one of my gigs that I hate so much! (I hate it because it's too tiresome and puts strain on my voice and keeps me up too late on a weeknight). Perhaps his lack of input made the decision easier, but it was certainly NOT the cause.

The KYAG thing was more of a FAN issue than anything else.

Why is that so hard for you people to grasp? He has said on NUMEROUS occasions that he bears NO ill feelings towards the guys in the band but is glad he got out for his own personal reasons.

Stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

Zan-
RELAX!
I'm not trying to "Start" anything. I remember reading his comments on the whole thing, in fact, I was riveted because he was one of my favorite members.
The reason it's so hard for me to believe is:

1) he might've signed on to be an 'extra member' type of thing, but that would still be tough to deal with for one as creative as Glen.
2) If he was sick of the road, why is he out with Dennis?
3) His comments about certain families getting to go while others could not
4) He was kind of wiped off the Styx web site without much ceremony at all. One day he was there, the next he wasn't.

Not trying to stir anything up, just seems that there's some hard feelings there

[Zan]

Zan-
RELAX! I'm not trying to "Start" anything. I remember reading his comments on the whole thing, in fact, I was riveted because he was one of my favorite members.
The reason it's so hard for me to believe is:

1) he might've signed on to be an 'extra member' type of thing, but that would still be tough to deal with for one as creative as Glen.
2) If he was sick of the road, why is he out with Dennis?
3) His comments about certain families getting to go while others could not
4) He was kind of wiped off the Styx web site without much ceremony at all. One day he was there, the next he wasn't.

Not trying to stir anything up, just seems that there's some hard feelings there

I'm relaxed!!!!!!!! Dammit... lol

I'll address yours and Yogi's posts, perhaps betterly than I did previously.

Of course being the backseat guy was frustrating for a front man, no one has ever disputed that. Perhaps he HOPED things would change, but when they didn't, topped with the fact that "certain families" got preferential treatment only exaserbated his feelings of discontentment. I'm sure they did. But previous posts made by you and others here implied that he LEFT BECAUSE he was mad or annoyed. He left because he was burned out - reason numero uno. Not having any real incentive to stay only made it easier to make that call. he is NOT bitter or annoyed or angry. he may not care for how things were handled, just as I don't care for how my former band handled things, but I, like him, don't feel animousity or anger towards them (nor have I ever) because of it. But if someone asks me how it was being in that band, I would tell them - warts and all. It doesn't go much deeper than that at all.

He isn't touring with DDY constantly, with only sporadic breaks in between to see his wife and kids. He does maybe 2-3 gigs a month with Dennis, a MUCH better and more accomodating situation for him to be in. You can't compare apples to oranges.

I can't speak for anyone in the Styx organization (or Glen for that matter - only with whatever information Glen has been forthcoming with), but if there is animousity towards Glen for leaving, I can't say. I do know that none of them have made any negative comments about him since that time. Except for maybe one certain guitar tech, who I've never found to say anything nice about anyone except Tommy Shaw. Styx, as an organization, has a responsibility to itself, and only itself, to represent what it is today. If Glen is no longer a part of that picture, I guess they saw it fit to delete him from the website - but again, I can't speak for their motives in doing so.

[shaka]

This may come as a shock to you, but I don't care what any professional musican does to keep his or herself busy, Glen included - I'm happy he's getting exposure and able to play for an audience. That's all most musicians can hope for. I do find it almost comical how you sniff out single quotes to prove your point...or, whatever it is you are desperately trying to convince the world of. It brings back to mind that Dear Glen "Dan" sent in lawyerese speak, "And IN FACT, wasn't KYAG actually written about Dennis DeYoung?" Another brilliant move on your part.

How many people have you actually met in Styxland, Rajah? I'm curious if anyone has ever seen you in person. I know "Dan" has threatened to come to solo shows inthe past, but then backed out at the last minute with some lame reason. Sorta like you did when Keith (Guido) offered you that refund. Curious, that. Huh. Must be coincidence. Maybe you're just braver when you're hiding behind the comfort of your 50+ computers with multiple IP addresses. LOL

Zan,

I love you.

That is all. hee hee

[Zan]

Only 30 shows? Really? Considering the people involved, I can only assume this was before the DDY split...or else they were extremely apprehensive about hitting the road with a new lineup.

Stabbim,

I wish I had more information at my disposal on this, but I managed to score the original dates when the "new" Styx kicked off the 1999 tour to support BNW:


06/05/99 Orlando FL Walt Disney World
Televised Nationwide - Chilren's Miracle Network benefit
9PM and 10PM for 20 minutes each. NOT open to the public.
Check www.cmn.org for a station near you!

(We all remember that one)


07/08/99 Branson MO Grand Palace
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On sale NOW

07/09/99 Farmington MO Civic Center w/Edgar Winter and Starship
573-756-0900 or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On sale NOW

07/10/99 Beloit WI Beloit Riverfest
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

07/11/99 Hinkley MN Grand Casino
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

07/14/99 Knoxville, TN Worlds Fair Park
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07/15/99 Tunica MS Horseshoe Casino
901-525-1515 or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

07/17/99 Mankato MN Midwest Wireless Civic Center w/REO
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

07/18/99 Davenport IA Mississippi Valley Fairgrounds w/Eddie Money & Lynn Allen
1-800-293-5949 or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

07/22/99 West Bend WI Washington County Fair
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

07/23/99 Kansas City MO Station Casino
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

07/24/99 Shadia NB Private Show (?)
CMC Intl

8/03/99 Wasau WI Wisconsin Valley Fair
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

08/04/99 Ionia MI Ionia Free Fair w/REO
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

08/06/99 Quincy IL Quincy Raceway w/Eddie Money & Starship
1-800-293-5949 or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

08/07/99 Evansville IN Mesker Ampitheatre w/REO
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08/08/99 Nashville TN 1st American Music Ctr w/REO
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On sale NOW!

08/10/99 Myrtle Beach SC Palace Theatre
1-800-905-4228 or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

08/13/99 Manchester TN Itchycoo Park
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08/22/99 Kellogg ID Silver Mountain
1-800-325-SEAT or http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

08/25/99 Boise ID Western Idaho Fair
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

08/27/99 Sacramento CA Cal Expo Amphitheater
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

08/28/99 Salem OR L.B. Day Amphitheater
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

08/29/99 Monroe WA Evergreen State Fair
http://www.evergreenfair.org http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

09/01/99 Lancaster CA Antelope Valley Fair
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm or http://www.avfair.com

09/05/99 Kelseyville CA Konocti Harbor Resort w/Skynyrd
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm
On Sale NOW!

09/08/99 Blackfoot ID East Idaho State Fair
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

09/09/99 Orem, UT McKay Events Center
http://www.pollstar.com

09/10/99 Las Vegas NV Hilton
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

09/11/99 Las Vegas NV Hilton
http://www.paradisetheatre.com/itinerary.cfm

09/17/99 Hutchinson KS Kansas State Fair w/Doobie Brothers
http://www.ink.org/public/ksfair/sfgrandstand.html

09/18/99 Brighton CO Adams Co. Fairgrounds
http://www.pollstar.com


I know there were more later dates added for the same "tour" because they came to Pompano Beach on October 29th, where I saw them for the first time (this lineup).

[Zan]

And more from the Bullshit files....

From paradisetheatre.com:

On a radio interview on WLS in Chicago on 6/1/99, Dennis had some
pretty interesting things to say:

His illness is STILL undiagnosed, after having consulted with at least 14
doctors from Northwestern University Hospital. He takes no medication for
it - if they don't know what it is, I suppose they can't treat it.
After a few minutes of heat/light exposure to his face, he has to lie
down in a cool, dark room for 45 minutes to an hour to recouperate.

Dennis and JY re-recorded "Mr. Roboto" for the VW commercial that's now
playing on national TV. It was the first time he has ever sold the rights
to one of his songs for a commercial, because he doesn't believe in artists
doing that, but he felt that the commercial's concept was so fun that he
just HAD to do it. He said that Amoco offered a lot of money last year for
the rights to another one of his songs, but he declined because he thought
that the commercial concept was dumb.

Dennis was asked how Styx was going to perform in concert without him, since
he did half the songs. Dennis answered that he actually did MORE than half
the songs, and he thinks that the band "is hiring some guys to go out with them."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Styx is touring this summer and fall, but not all the news is good.
Dennis DeYoung has decided not to tour, as well as bassist Chuck
Panozzo, at least for the first half of the tour. Chuck has
made a personal decision not to tour, and Dennis is suffering
from a really odd illness, explained below.. Ex-Stygian Glen Burtnik will
be stepping in to play bass and sing for this tour. The tour will be in
smaller venues, clubs, and state fairs until fall, where the band hopes
to be rejoined by Dennis and Chuck to play larger halls. For at least a
portion of the tour, Styx will be co-headlining with REO Speedwagon.
Some of the songs that Tommy has mentioned that they might play this
time around include Lights, Man In The Wilderness, Mademoiselle, an
acoustic version of High Enough, and then Glen-penned Patty Smyth hit
"Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough". They have selected
Laurence Gowan to stand-in for Dennis on keyboards.

From all accounts, there were no arguments, fights, or any personal
difficulties between band members, IE Dennis and Tommy.

The new album is in the "can", and promo and advance CDs are
being pressed as we speak.

Glen DOES appear on the new album, titled "Brave New World".
He sings backup on one song, and plays bass on another. Dennis and Chuck
are also on the album.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a letter that has been confirmed written by Dennis DeYoung, shedding a little light on his decision not to tour:

From: Dennis De Young

Hello everyone, Boy has this ever been a rocky year.
As you may or may not know I will be unable to
participate in the upcoming tour, due to health
reasons. In January of 1998, a flu bug attacked my
entire system, complete with a 102 temperature for
five days. I'll spare you the details except one,
which is: from this virus I have become photosensitive
and heat sensitive, only in my face. Odd you say? Well
12 different doctors have been befuddled by this
mystery and other than a diagnosis of some exotic
nerve damage from this flu, were clue-less. The upshot
of it is when exposed to bright light for any period
of time, I become extremely fatigued, with short-term
flu symptoms. Go figure! Happily I have been able to
work on the new Styx album for the last four months
and it's a good one! (What else am I gonna say, "It
stinks?") Unhappily, I will not be able to perform and
so what I do best, irritate rock critics! Even the
album had a bumpy ride. When Tommy learned that I was
not able to commit to a tour, he decided that
finishing the album was not in his best interests. I
disagreed and so did Tom Lipsky the president of CMC
records. We worked together to make sure that the
album will be completed for a summer release.
"Hallelujah!" To set the record straight, I would have
loved to have the tour postponed until my health
improved, apparently it was not meant to be. The good
news is the album is truly fantastic, one that will
delight Styx fans for years to come. Hope to see you
all soon.


Ah. memories....

[rajah2165]

And more from the Bullshit files....

From paradisetheatre.com:

On a radio interview on WLS in Chicago on 6/1/99, Dennis had some
pretty interesting things to say:

His illness is STILL undiagnosed, after having consulted with at least 14
doctors from Northwestern University Hospital. He takes no medication for
it - if they don't know what it is, I suppose they can't treat it.
After a few minutes of heat/light exposure to his face, he has to lie
down in a cool, dark room for 45 minutes to an hour to recouperate.

Dennis and JY re-recorded "Mr. Roboto" for the VW commercial that's now
playing on national TV. It was the first time he has ever sold the rights
to one of his songs for a commercial, because he doesn't believe in artists
doing that, but he felt that the commercial's concept was so fun that he
just HAD to do it. He said that Amoco offered a lot of money last year for
the rights to another one of his songs, but he declined because he thought
that the commercial concept was dumb.

Dennis was asked how Styx was going to perform in concert without him, since
he did half the songs. Dennis answered that he actually did MORE than half
the songs, and he thinks that the band "is hiring some guys to go out with them."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Styx is touring this summer and fall, but not all the news is good.
Dennis DeYoung has decided not to tour, as well as bassist Chuck
Panozzo, at least for the first half of the tour. Chuck has
made a personal decision not to tour, and Dennis is suffering
from a really odd illness, explained below.. Ex-Stygian Glen Burtnik will
be stepping in to play bass and sing for this tour. The tour will be in
smaller venues, clubs, and state fairs until fall, where the band hopes
to be rejoined by Dennis and Chuck to play larger halls. For at least a
portion of the tour, Styx will be co-headlining with REO Speedwagon.
Some of the songs that Tommy has mentioned that they might play this
time around include Lights, Man In The Wilderness, Mademoiselle, an
acoustic version of High Enough, and then Glen-penned Patty Smyth hit
"Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough". They have selected
Laurence Gowan to stand-in for Dennis on keyboards.

From all accounts, there were no arguments, fights, or any personal
difficulties between band members, IE Dennis and Tommy.

The new album is in the "can", and promo and advance CDs are
being pressed as we speak.

Glen DOES appear on the new album, titled "Brave New World".
He sings backup on one song, and plays bass on another. Dennis and Chuck
are also on the album.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a letter that has been confirmed written by Dennis DeYoung, shedding a little light on his decision not to tour:

From: Dennis De Young

Hello everyone, Boy has this ever been a rocky year.
As you may or may not know I will be unable to
participate in the upcoming tour, due to health
reasons. In January of 1998, a flu bug attacked my
entire system, complete with a 102 temperature for
five days. I'll spare you the details except one,
which is: from this virus I have become photosensitive
and heat sensitive, only in my face. Odd you say? Well
12 different doctors have been befuddled by this
mystery and other than a diagnosis of some exotic
nerve damage from this flu, were clue-less. The upshot
of it is when exposed to bright light for any period
of time, I become extremely fatigued, with short-term
flu symptoms. Go figure! Happily I have been able to
work on the new Styx album for the last four months
and it's a good one! (What else am I gonna say, "It
stinks?") Unhappily, I will not be able to perform and
so what I do best, irritate rock critics! Even the
album had a bumpy ride. When Tommy learned that I was
not able to commit to a tour, he decided that
finishing the album was not in his best interests. I
disagreed and so did Tom Lipsky the president of CMC
records. We worked together to make sure that the
album will be completed for a summer release.
"Hallelujah!" To set the record straight, I would have
loved to have the tour postponed until my health
improved, apparently it was not meant to be. The good
news is the album is truly fantastic, one that will
delight Styx fans for years to come. Hope to see you
all soon.


Ah. memories....

The fact that you kept all this really says to me that its time to get a life...

[rajah2165]

I am not even going to acknowledge this slanderous list of lies ...!!!

Do you still believe that ANYONE buys into your adolescent games, Rajah? I'd be astonished if you did.

It sure tends to get your panties in a wad..

[Jodes]

Rajah, it's from Paradisetheater.com so unless Zan is it's webmaster, she didn't keep this all on her computer.

I'm sure everything that has been said from DDY, Chuck, TS, JY, GB and Todd has been recorded and easily accessed by all parties!

And a few fans too..

[Zan]

[quote="rajah2165]The fact that you kept all this really says to me that its time to get a life...[/quote]



I didn't keep it, jackass.

[I Stumble In]

Zan - do we now have someone to hate even more than Froy? Rajah is clueless.

Rajah - anyone that has followed Styx know that what Zan says is true. It's not make believe - or something she "thinks" happened. It's all based on facts - and articles in the past. Until you want to truly research your thoughts before posting them - keep a lid on it.

This is all I have to say.