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Re: Etc.

Postby Zan » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:42 pm

Abitaman wrote:Ok, I understand what you are saying,
The bible does say to follow the leaders and the law of the land. So if you break a law you are sinning.
That is why a lot of people do not want Gay marriages approved. It goes against the God's word, and makes a sin legal, in man's eyes.
It also says drinking is not a sin unless ones abuses it, but drugs is against the law. (which I am thankful for, because the pot I smoked years ago really took away any ambition I had, hence the going to college (at 40) to do what I have always wanted to). Which could be bad if I made it before everything in my life.
Adultery is not just having sex with a woman (or man in your case), but lusting after someone you see as is a sin.




Well again, the Commandments have always been up for some amount of interpretation. I don't see "lusting" after someone as a sin, technically, unless it goes to an extreme of being obsessive or deceiving or hurtful. I think it's natural to be attracted to certain people and think, HEY NOW! :shock: :lol: But the word "covet" is so broad that is think it's difficult to pin it down precisely. Also, I don't think saying "God d*mmit" or "Jesus Christ!" when you stub your toe is illegal to say in private settings (nor is gawking at your neighbor's wife or being jealous of others' possessions), so I don't see how legalizing gay marriage would make any impact on how much of a sin it is to people like yourself (and also why I believe the separation of church and state only exists in the imaginations of some people).

Don't get me wrong, *I* feel that ANY behavior that distracts us or takes us away from our responsibilities is wrong if it is done to excess (unfortunately, the Bible doesn't always agree with me). If marijuana use was prohibiting you from moving in a positive direction in life, it was absolutely the right choice to give it up. I just don't see gay relationships to fit that description if they are "healthy" in nature (no lying, deceiving, cheating, abusive, etc.) My hope is that one day people will wake up to this reality and accept that there are gay people, who lead gay lives out there, and that they will be supported. Not to be supported just because of who you are is also wrong, IMO. (within reason, of course) lol
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Re: Etc.

Postby Abitaman » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:19 pm

Zan wrote:


[b][color=magenta]Well again, the Commandments have always been up for some amount of interpretation. I don't see "lusting" after someone as a sin, technically, unless it goes to an extreme of being obsessive or deceiving or hurtful. I think it's natural to be attracted to certain people and think, HEY NOW! :shock: :lol: But the word "covet" is so broad that is think it's difficult to pin it down precisely. ]


That is a lot of what I am talking about. Be attracted to someone is not a sin, but how you react to it is, mentally and physically-ERIC
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Re: Etc.

Postby Abitaman » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:21 pm

Zan wrote:
Also, I don't think saying "God d*mmit" or "Jesus Christ!" when you stub your toe is illegal to say in private settings

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that I do think is sin, and I am quilty form time to time of this-ERIC
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Re: Etc.

Postby Abitaman » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:23 pm

Zan wrote:having sex with a woman (or man in your case), but lusting after someone you see as is a sin.


Don't get me wrong, *I* feel that ANY behavior that distracts us or takes us away from our responsibilities is wrong if it is done to excess (unfortunately, the Bible doesn't always agree with me). If marijuana use was prohibiting you from moving in a positive direction in life, it was absolutely the right choice to give it up. I just don't see gay relationships to fit that description if they are "healthy" in nature (no lying, deceiving, cheating, abusive, etc.)][/quote]

Anything in that area can be a sin of you abuse it, marriage, work, drinking, sex, etc...-ERIC
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Re: Etc.

Postby Abitaman » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:24 pm

Abitaman wrote:
Zan wrote:having sex with a woman (or man in your case), but lusting after someone you see as is a sin.


Don't get me wrong, *I* feel that ANY behavior that distracts us or takes us away from our responsibilities is wrong if it is done to excess (unfortunately, the Bible doesn't always agree with me). If marijuana use was prohibiting you from moving in a positive direction in life, it was absolutely the right choice to give it up. I just don't see gay relationships to fit that description if they are "healthy" in nature (no lying, deceiving, cheating, abusive, etc.)]


Anything in that area can be a sin of you abuse it, marriage, work, drinking, sex, etc...-ERIC[/quote]

Qouted the last one wrong-ERIC
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