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Postby Crazie Scarab » Fri May 04, 2007 9:36 am

I just hope the next album they put out I can fully enjoy. I mean FULLY enjoy! Last time that happened, it was Escape.
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Postby brywool » Fri May 04, 2007 9:44 am

scarab wrote:They seemed to spend a lot of time on Generations and most of that was filler.

They used to put out awesome albums every year, i know that was driven by $ but they sure did well under pressure then.


YUP. I'm tired of bands that make their fans (WHO WON'T WAIT FOREVER) wait 2 or 3 years between records. It's ridiculous.
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Postby Andrew » Fri May 04, 2007 10:17 am

brywool wrote:If the thread title fits! ;)

Neal is MR. Creative and with Sotto and Cain AND the new energy, I would've thought they'd have something in the can by now, even if it's wiping previously "in the can" stuff's vocals and adding Jeff's.
I dunno, don't ya ever get tired of waiting on your favorite bands for something new? I'm just wanting something new.


Dude, give them a chance to write and record!!! They have only been off the road a month!!!!!!
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Re: Tired of Waiting...

Postby Soto All The Way » Fri May 04, 2007 10:32 am

brywool wrote:I'm tired of waiting on Journey for new material. They've supposedly got all this new energy yet they're going to make their fans (yeah, those who stuck with them through all the BS they put us through) wait for new material?

I'm bored with the band and their whole deal.

I wanna hear something NEW.


By all means after a great and busy tour of the UK and a show coming up next week, let's expect Jeff to belt out a studio album and fuck up another voice....Folks like you are fucking priceless....MORE, MORE, MORE....Get Some, MORE, MORE, MORE......Go read a fucking book and wait till fall. Or take extra medicine to make time go faster.....

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Postby JSS » Fri May 04, 2007 11:46 am

Quick reply...I just demo-ed Winds Of Freedom yesterday but unfortunately this version won't be heard as it's more a work tape for us all to learn from in rehearsing it next week...as well, it's basically a drum program, keyboard bass, keys done by Jon & Neal on guitars, not the full band. It sounds killer if I might say so, a testiment of what's to come. It's starts off kinda like When You Love A Woman but it's not a traditional Journey ballad, especially lyrically.

As far as new stuff, when, where, how, etc., Think about it folks....we toured literally until late Nov, got done with enough time to spend with our families for xmas, Jan, Neal/Jon & I did the ARF thing, Neal & I did the NAMM thing, then we did the Walmart thing, then we did the Florida/Mardi Gras thing, then we did Europe until late March. Next week we leave for VA & 3 days after that, I leave for 3 weeks to tour with Talisman....you can say we are busy boys! It's JUST over a month after we got back & yes, we needed a little break to get recharged for the writing, which now one is knocked off for the gig next week.

If you look at the spectrum of time, the burnout factor of touring & where we're at time-wise, we'll be at full swing writing by late June, probably recording by Fall & album out by early next year.

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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 11:51 am

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If you look at the spectrum of time, the burnout factor of touring & where we're at time-wise, we'll be at full swing writing by late June, probably recording by Fall & album out by early next year.


That's WAY too long.
We can get it out 4th Q. Simply impose your will on the fellows, JSS. :D
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Postby Saint John » Fri May 04, 2007 11:56 am

JSS wrote:Quick reply...I just demo-ed Wings Of Freedom yesterday but unfortunately this version won't be heard as it's more a work tape for us all to learn from in rehearsing it next week...as well, it's basically a drum program, keyboard bass, keys done by Jon & Neal on guitars, not the full band. It sounds killer if I might say so, a testiment of what's to come. It's starts off kinda like When You Love A Woman but it's not a traditional Journey ballad, especially lyrically.

As far as new stuff, when, where, how, etc., Think about it folks....we toured literally until late Nov, got done with enough time to spend with our families for xmas, Jan, Neal/Jon & I did the ARF thing, Neal & I did the NAMM thing, then we did the Walmart thing, then we did the Florida/Mardi Gras thing, then we did Europe until late March. Next week we leave for VA & 3 days after that, I leave for 3 weeks to tour with Talisman....you can say we are busy boys! It's JUST over a month after we got back & yes, we needed a little break to get recharged for the writing, which now one is knocked off for the gig next week.

If you look at the spectrum of time, the burnout factor of touring & where we're at time-wise, we'll be at full swing writing by late June, probably recording by Fall & album out by early next year.

:)



Sounds fuckin' awesome. You guys deserve rest, and we would like an album that was NOT rushed. So we WILL hear the new song in Virginia?
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Fri May 04, 2007 11:57 am

JSS wrote:..where we're at time-wise, we'll be at full swing writing by late June, probably recording by Fall & album out by early next year.

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Thanks for the update, Jeff!
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Postby brywool » Fri May 04, 2007 12:39 pm

Andrew wrote:
brywool wrote:If the thread title fits! ;)

Neal is MR. Creative and with Sotto and Cain AND the new energy, I would've thought they'd have something in the can by now, even if it's wiping previously "in the can" stuff's vocals and adding Jeff's.
I dunno, don't ya ever get tired of waiting on your favorite bands for something new? I'm just wanting something new.


Dude, give them a chance to write and record!!! They have only been off the road a month!!!!!!


You know, if this was Boston, you'd have a point. This is freakin' Journey! They have enough solo shit coming out every week, maybe they could actually devote all that effort to JOURNEY.

Sorry, man, but it's tiresome waiting for these guys.
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Re: Tired of Waiting...

Postby brywool » Fri May 04, 2007 12:41 pm

Soto All The Way wrote:
brywool wrote:I'm tired of waiting on Journey for new material. They've supposedly got all this new energy yet they're going to make their fans (yeah, those who stuck with them through all the BS they put us through) wait for new material?

I'm bored with the band and their whole deal.

I wanna hear something NEW.


By all means after a great and busy tour of the UK and a show coming up next week, let's expect Jeff to belt out a studio album and fuck up another voice....Folks like you are fucking priceless....MORE, MORE, MORE....Get Some, MORE, MORE, MORE......Go read a fucking book and wait till fall. Or take extra medicine to make time go faster.....

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Dude, Journey concerts have been pretty much the same for years. I'd rather the band got off the friggin road and actually wrote some new music. I'm sick of "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin" and "separate ways".
Whatever... I'd rather hear a new album than yet another greatest hits tour...
Also, when Soto joined, we kept hearing about how they already had stuff in the can.

Sorry, just impatient for new stuff.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 1:10 pm

brywool wrote:
Andrew wrote:
brywool wrote:If the thread title fits! ;)

Neal is MR. Creative and with Sotto and Cain AND the new energy, I would've thought they'd have something in the can by now, even if it's wiping previously "in the can" stuff's vocals and adding Jeff's.
I dunno, don't ya ever get tired of waiting on your favorite bands for something new? I'm just wanting something new.


Dude, give them a chance to write and record!!! They have only been off the road a month!!!!!!


You know, if this was Boston, you'd have a point. This is freakin' Journey! They have enough solo shit coming out every week, maybe they could actually devote all that effort to JOURNEY.

Sorry, man, but it's tiresome waiting for these guys.


Ding ding ding.
The solo material is free flowing from all except Deen pretty much.

Journey record already.
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Postby nikki » Fri May 04, 2007 2:35 pm

If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.
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Postby L~L~L » Fri May 04, 2007 2:55 pm

nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:
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Postby Moon Beam » Fri May 04, 2007 10:54 pm

I'm crossing my everything for a new album
from the guys by November this year.

Sir Soto I am sorry deeply that you guys have been in go mode
since you joined but that doesn't change the fact of
how long the fans have been waiting for something new.
Hope you have a good show next weekend, good luck men!



Brywool thanks for sharing your frustration with us. :wink:
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat May 05, 2007 12:39 am

L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat May 05, 2007 12:59 am

PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat May 05, 2007 1:09 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.
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Postby brywool » Sat May 05, 2007 1:28 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.


Ha- Good Point! 13? Holy Hell!!
"I think about recording everyday"... yeah, whatever!

Remember in the 60s ( okay, I really DON'T) but Jesus, The Beatles would put an AMAZING album out EVERY YEAR. What is this 2, 3, 4 year BS?? It's like Boston set the benchmark for recording schedules.
I think EVERY band should have to do an album every year. Have shorter tours! Of course, touring (especially these days) is where the dough is for these bands, so I guess I see their point in waiting but with digital technology and laptops being basically little recording studios, I'd think planes and buses and long hours on the road would make for good song-demo management.
I think some bands can write on the road and others can't. Too bad.
Yeah, sorry, I get really impatient. A new album from a favorite band is like Christmas to me... Always was. New Mccartney in June, that'll help, but I'm not impressed with the two tracks I've heard.
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Postby L~L~L » Sat May 05, 2007 1:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.



Boy were those albums some kind of wonderful, eh :?
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Postby L~L~L » Sat May 05, 2007 1:32 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.


Ahh the bliss of a secured future isn't it wonderful. :D
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat May 05, 2007 1:35 am

L~L~L wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.



Boy were those albums some kind of wonderful, eh :?


Newsflash.
Nobody but you loons have For The Love Of Exaggerated Diaphragmnal Expulsions ranked ahead of Dark Side Of The Moon, either. Plenty of people (even though I enjoy the album) think that the 8 years taken to get that our weren't any more well-spent than the 3 years between Red13 and Generations.
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat May 05, 2007 2:24 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.



WHO said ANYTHING negative towards Journey in our post above, the subject was "loons". Man, you guys are SO sensitive! :roll:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat May 05, 2007 2:31 am

PROPERRY wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.



WHO said ANYTHING negative towards Journey in our post above, the subject was "loons". Man, you guys are SO sensitive! :roll:


The inference was from that other loon who bogusly tried to compare what is at this time less than 2 years after the last Journey album to the 8 and now 13 year waits for SP's records.
He was crying foul that we don't hold Journey to the same standards but there's an 11-year difference. And DON'T play the "HE can do WHATEVER HE wants" card b/c every time he pipes up he's threatening to put something out so he is cleary not above reproach on that.
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Re: Tired of Waiting...

Postby Soto All The Way » Sat May 05, 2007 2:44 am

brywool wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:
brywool wrote:I'm tired of waiting on Journey for new material. They've supposedly got all this new energy yet they're going to make their fans (yeah, those who stuck with them through all the BS they put us through) wait for new material?

I'm bored with the band and their whole deal.

I wanna hear something NEW.


By all means after a great and busy tour of the UK and a show coming up next week, let's expect Jeff to belt out a studio album and fuck up another voice....Folks like you are fucking priceless....MORE, MORE, MORE....Get Some, MORE, MORE, MORE......Go read a fucking book and wait till fall. Or take extra medicine to make time go faster.....

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Dude, Journey concerts have been pretty much the same for years. I'd rather the band got off the friggin road and actually wrote some new music. I'm sick of "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin" and "separate ways".
Whatever... I'd rather hear a new album than yet another greatest hits tour...
Also, when Soto joined, we kept hearing about how they already had stuff in the can.

Sorry, just impatient for new stuff.


I love it....UR are truly a first class DICKWEED!!!!!

Did you not just READ, not hear so you could have gotten it wrong in some way, but READ what JEFF SAID!!!!!

You're the reason that I hate 90% of Journey fans....Nothing is ever good enough for them. Steve didn't post over at BT, boy, whas he a DICK. Jon called all the Pery heads fucking psycho's....BAD MOVE and the band has been going non stop since last summer and YOU WANT SOME MATERIAL....Here's an idea DICKWEED, They are re-releasing all the albums with live and TIME3 shit on them.....Go to Ghetto-Mart with your Stryker shirt on and buy them all and listen to them....Maybe by them Jeff's voice will be rested enough to start to YOUR satisfaction of course......Take the medicine....Go buy soe records and get a life.....DICKWEED!!!!

Now, I'm all worked up over some fucking ying-yang that expects a band to put an album out in three months.....And BE SERIOUS about it!!!! :roll:
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Postby Scarab Pilot » Sat May 05, 2007 2:51 am

I have to wonder about the family side of things. We are all anxious for new Journey material but what about the bands families? I am sure they also hear "Dad when are you going to be home?" or "You're leaving again?". I don't know the ages of everyones kids but at some point they have to be dads and husbands, too. Just chill out and let the guys do what they need to do make themselves and their families happy and content - we're a little lower down the food chain.
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Postby Greg » Sat May 05, 2007 2:56 am

JSS wrote:Quick reply...I just demo-ed Wings Of Freedom yesterday but unfortunately this version won't be heard as it's more a work tape for us all to learn from in rehearsing it next week...as well, it's basically a drum program, keyboard bass, keys done by Jon & Neal on guitars, not the full band. It sounds killer if I might say so, a testiment of what's to come. It's starts off kinda like When You Love A Woman but it's not a traditional Journey ballad, especially lyrically.

As far as new stuff, when, where, how, etc., Think about it folks....we toured literally until late Nov, got done with enough time to spend with our families for xmas, Jan, Neal/Jon & I did the ARF thing, Neal & I did the NAMM thing, then we did the Walmart thing, then we did the Florida/Mardi Gras thing, then we did Europe until late March. Next week we leave for VA & 3 days after that, I leave for 3 weeks to tour with Talisman....you can say we are busy boys! It's JUST over a month after we got back & yes, we needed a little break to get recharged for the writing, which now one is knocked off for the gig next week.

If you look at the spectrum of time, the burnout factor of touring & where we're at time-wise, we'll be at full swing writing by late June, probably recording by Fall & album out by early next year.

:)


Man!!!! When do you have time to spend with your families? Christmas? That would be the sucky part of being in a rock band, but it would be nice to get out and see the world! You guys need a "go-for"? I can go for coffee, breakfast, or whatever you guys need! lol.... I can help to fight off all the women (I'll just take all of them back to the room with me!) :wink:
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat May 05, 2007 3:06 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
L~L~L wrote:
nikkib703 wrote:If having to wait means that the guys want to take their time and put out a good product for us, then I'll be happy to wait.

The so called "loons" say the very samething...................hmm could it be we are all loons? :lol:


Great point L~L~L :lol:


Mmmmm no not THAT great.
:roll:
We're 2 years out from Generations but THIRTEEN (13) out from FTLOSM.
NOT the same comparison.


Yeah, and Journey is an active, creative entity. Perry watches baseball games.



WHO said ANYTHING negative towards Journey in our post above, the subject was "loons". Man, you guys are SO sensitive! :roll:


The inference was from that other loon who bogusly tried to compare what is at this time less than 2 years after the last Journey album to the 8 and now 13 year waits for SP's records.
He was crying foul that we don't hold Journey to the same standards but there's an 11-year difference. And DON'T play the "HE can do WHATEVER HE wants" card b/c every time he pipes up he's threatening to put something out so he is cleary not above reproach on that.



"And DON'T play the "HE can do WHATEVER HE wants card b/c everytime he pipes up he 's threatening to put something out so he is clearly not above reproach on that"


I'm assuming when you say "HE can do WATEVER HE wants card", you are referring to Perry. And if so, I CAN play THAT card Redjoe, because HE is Steve Perry, and that is "his right" to do what he wants with his life, no matter if you approve or not. :lol:

I just saw a "closed thread" here that Nora put up on the board, that he was in a studio, NOT singing or "threatening to put something out" as YOU call it, BUT DAMN, I just can't help it, I HAVE to say, I would LOVE for him to "threaten" me with HIS voice and music again!!! :lol: :D It sure would make me do cart wheels! :lol: :D

I THINK Perry just enjoys working BEHIND the scenes in the studios with other musicians right now, rather than singing himself. That's OK with me, he gets NO judgement from me, it is his right to do whatever he wants!

Oops, now don't yell at me, Redjoe :wink: , but there I go, playing THAT CARD again :lol: :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat May 05, 2007 3:17 am

Well then it MIGHT be cooler if he just said when asked, knowing full well what people mean when they ask about new music, "I don't want to mislead anyone. I like hanging around studios in trenchcoats, dark glasses and a fake beard but that's IT. I'm not planning on recording an album or even a song."

Instead it's always that vague, laughable "I'm thinking of doing something" noise. If you say "he can play the 'he can do whatever he wants' card" than we can damn well mock him for being full of shit for trying to mislead you fine folk into thinking there's new music in the offing. BTW, nice veiled cheapshot at Andrew tearilly mentioning a closed thread that no possible connection whatsoever to the goings on in this thread.

Why don't you say what you mean: ":cry: Andrew, I don't think it's FAIR that you CLOSED a thread started by a loon and DEANO and the Journegoons can attack ANY and EVERYbody. Boo hoo."
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Postby NoMoreTails » Sat May 05, 2007 3:53 am

Red13JoePa wrote: For The Love Of Exaggerated Diaphragmnal Expulsions


This one deserves an encore, belongs in the MR HOF 8)
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat May 05, 2007 4:00 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Well then it MIGHT be cooler if he just said when asked, knowing full well what people mean when they ask about new music, "I don't want to mislead anyone. I like hanging around studios in trenchcoats, dark glasses and a fake beard but that's IT. I'm not planning on recording an album or even a song."

Instead it's always that vague, laughable "I'm thinking of doing something" noise. If you say "he can play the 'he can do whatever he wants' card" than we can damn well mock him for being full of shit for trying to mislead you fine folk into thinking there's new music in the offing. BTW, nice veiled cheapshot at Andrew for mentioning a closed thread that no possible connection whatsoever to the goings on in this thread.


Redjoe, I DON'T feel "mislead" by Perry NOR does it make me think that everytime I hear he is in the studio he is going to sing again. Just because HE goes to a studio does NOT mean HE is the ONE singing. Maybe you are the one that thinks that :wink:

It is Pat Monahan that is doing the talking about him, NOT Perry.

And NO, I did not take a cheap shot at Andrew for mentioning the closed thread. I only referred to it being closed because you may have not read it, or saw it, or gone into the thread, because it was closed, that's all. So you are misreading into my post, and also, I was not the "first one" to bring Perry up, you and NIG did... I just responded to your posts. :)

You sound like you are in a bad mood, :( Try to get in a better mood Redjoe, it is Friday! :lol: :wink: The weekend is here! :lol: :wink:
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