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Postby froy » Sat May 05, 2007 9:13 am

Zan wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:I like it, but I don't see it silencing the naysayers who say DDY can't rock. It's definitely more in the spirit of older Styx, as is the other song that's been circulating. This one is definitely more focused.It gives me better hope for the new album coming, though. It's got some of the theatrics in there, too.

But it definitely has teeth - moreso than anything on most of his other solo albums.



I concur, Allen. It reminds me of Boomchild meets Hunchback meets the Scorpians. A little dated, and I'm really not digging the french bits, but it's not bad, all told. Maybe after a few more listens, it will grow on me more, that happens a lot to me with Styx and Styx related songs. We shall see.


Zan I dont think you are supposed to dig the French bits because it was released for Canada.
I have a feeling there is going to be the same version in English somewhere down the road.
I like the song its got balls.
I really like the demo I heard of just Dennis its amazing and better than the one we have heard.
I hope it comes out on the new cd as a bonus track.
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Postby froy » Sat May 05, 2007 9:16 am

I am only giving Froy the same thing he gives me when it comes to Styx....I am the "Anti-Froy!
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Postby Ash » Sat May 05, 2007 9:26 am

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Zan wrote:I concur, Allen. It reminds me of Boomchild meets Hunchback meets the Scorpians. A little dated, and I'm really not digging the french bits, but it's not bad, all told. Maybe after a few more listens, it will grow on me more, that happens a lot to me with Styx and Styx related songs. We shall see.


I'm hoping the full English/DDY version is a bit better.

To me, both songs I've heard so far sound like DDY is trying a bit too hard to sound like old Styx. Maybe I'm wrong. I can tell he wants to silence the naysayers, and this release has the potential of being one of his better solo projects, but I hope it does not sound "forced" for lack of a better term.


First it's not Styx enough - then it's too much like old Styx?

Can we not judge the material on it's own merit? I think I need to listen to it a few more times.... perhaps the other voice on it will grow on me.
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Postby bugsymalone » Sat May 05, 2007 9:50 am

I found this song a real mix of styles and sounds, which made me like it even more.

No one can really make a judgment about the CD until it comes out and all tracks are available for a listen and, of course, a barrage of criticism :roll: ... or not :wink:

I absolutely believe this version of "100 Years From Now" will NOT be on the US release. This is for Canada, D.E.P. (a French-language label, I believe) and probably specifically for Montreal/Quebec. In fact, right now, the CD is aimed at the Canadian market.

Dennis said on the interview today that D.E.P. liked this track so much they had him release before he really wanted to do so, but his album will follow this summer UP THERE.

I think he hopes the CD will do well up there, and if it does ok in the US whenever it is released here, well, that would just be gravy.

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Postby styxfanNH » Sat May 05, 2007 9:57 am

froy wrote: I dont think you are supposed to dig the French bits because it was released for Canada.
I have a feeling there is going to be the same version in English somewhere down the road.
I like the song its got balls.
I really like the demo I heard of just Dennis its amazing and better than the one we have heard.
I hope it comes out on the new cd as a bonus track.


Didn't realize all of Canada spoke French...
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Postby ManOfMiracles » Sat May 05, 2007 10:07 am

bugsymalone wrote:
I absolutely believe this version of "100 Years From Now" will NOT be on the US release.

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Sorry for asking... but depending on which post I read, some people are calling the single "100 years from now" and some are calling it 'This Time Next Year." Which is correct?
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Postby froy » Sat May 05, 2007 10:20 am

ManOfMiracles wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
I absolutely believe this version of "100 Years From Now" will NOT be on the US release.

Bugsy


Sorry for asking... but depending on which post I read, some people are calling the single "100 years from now" and some are calling it 'This Time Next Year." Which is correct?



Neither is correct

100 years is for Canada Radio
This Time Next Year will be for US radio if they play it.

This Time is Better .
Blows me away everytime I have heard it.
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Postby MtlLady » Sat May 05, 2007 10:37 am

styxfanNH wrote:Didn't realize all of Canada spoke French...


LOL! Now that's funny.

And for those who don't get it, of course not all of Canada speaks French. I do, but I'm not the majority.
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Postby froy » Sat May 05, 2007 10:38 am

MtlLady wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Didn't realize all of Canada spoke French...


LOL! Now that's funny.

And for those who don't get it, of course not all of Canada speaks French. I do, but I'm not the majority.


He 's just being a smart ass as usual
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Postby StyxCollector » Sat May 05, 2007 10:51 am

Ash wrote:First it's not Styx enough - then it's too much like old Styx?

Can we not judge the material on it's own merit? I think I need to listen to it a few more times.... perhaps the other voice on it will grow on me.


It just sounds like DDY wants to do Styx again ... without Styx. Not only for himself, but I think to prove that he can still do it. He's a proud guy, and you can tell he's worked hard on this material. I wonder if he worked too hard if you know what I mean.

So unlike his previous solo efforts (DM, BTTW, BC) which all have a similar sound, the two songs I've heard are much more Styx sounding than they sound like anything off of his 3 solo albums per se. This song has much more in common with Hunchback and the 75 - 77 period of Styx than it does Boomchild.

I said I liked the song - it's really not bad. But as a longtime fan, you can't help compare and draw parallels. As much as I like his other solo stuff, I'm glad he's found a bit of the rocker in him again.
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Postby styxdudebrandon » Sat May 05, 2007 11:09 am

gr8dane wrote:
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gr8dane wrote:Thanx for the heads up.
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Still tix for the Montreal show.


Already got mine ages ago. You going?


I'm in Toronto,so no.Enjoy.


Hey Gr8dane, Did you go to The DDY show at the Hummingbird centre last June?
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Postby MtlLady » Sat May 05, 2007 11:23 am

froy wrote:
MtlLady wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Didn't realize all of Canada spoke French...


LOL! Now that's funny.

And for those who don't get it, of course not all of Canada speaks French. I do, but I'm not the majority.


He 's just being a smart ass as usual


Still think it's funny. :-)

I guess that makes two of us because in real life, I'm a smart ass as well. Just not on the boards until people get to know me better. I mean, I'm the girl who went to work today with a t-shirt that says, "Here Comes Treble" in teeny letters with a big treble clef you know where! You've got to have a sense of humour in this life or you'll go crazy.
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Postby bugsymalone » Sat May 05, 2007 12:00 pm

froy wrote:
ManOfMiracles wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
I absolutely believe this version of "100 Years From Now" will NOT be on the US release.

Bugsy


Sorry for asking... but depending on which post I read, some people are calling the single "100 years from now" and some are calling it 'This Time Next Year." Which is correct?



Neither is correct

100 years is for Canada Radio
This Time Next Year will be for US radio if they play it.

This Time is Better .
Blows me away everytime I have heard it.


Actually, what I was referring to was the French/English version of this song not being on the US release. It would be cool to have it as a bonus option, though.

That is interesting, Froy, that "This Time Next Year" sounds better on the studio version. I guess that doesn't surprise me. I am looking forward to hearing it and whatever version of "100 Years" makes it to the CD.

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Postby Ash » Sat May 05, 2007 12:10 pm

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Ash wrote:First it's not Styx enough - then it's too much like old Styx?

Can we not judge the material on it's own merit? I think I need to listen to it a few more times.... perhaps the other voice on it will grow on me.


It just sounds like DDY wants to do Styx again ... without Styx. Not only for himself, but I think to prove that he can still do it. He's a proud guy, and you can tell he's worked hard on this material. I wonder if he worked too hard if you know what I mean.

So unlike his previous solo efforts (DM, BTTW, BC) which all have a similar sound, the two songs I've heard are much more Styx sounding than they sound like anything off of his 3 solo albums per se. This song has much more in common with Hunchback and the 75 - 77 period of Styx than it does Boomchild.

I said I liked the song - it's really not bad. But as a longtime fan, you can't help compare and draw parallels. As much as I like his other solo stuff, I'm glad he's found a bit of the rocker in him again.




Well - everyone here and everywhere has been saying he's washed up and can't do the Styx sound so thats why it's good he's not in the band and yada yada yada yada..... so perhaps there is a bit of him saying "I can do this too". Dennis didn't record his solo albums the way he did because trying to sound like Styx - he was trying to release music with his own style and personality outside of Styx. The songs on his solo records are songs he wanted to write and record at the time he did them. He happens to really like writing a certain kind of song. It isn't that he CAN'T write other kinds of songs, he's just chosen not to.

I just don't see the big deal. If he's out to prove he can still write good prog/melodic rock songs the more power to him. Yeah his music has a flair of theatre in it but that is WHO DENNIS IS and really has been all his life. You're telling me Pieces of Eight wasn't theatric? Listen to the intro of Great White Hope. It was all about being bombastic and dramatic. Allow the man to be true to himself the same way you want the guys in DFB to be true to themselves.

I think it's great he's going to do a new record of material he wants to do that he thinks can be relevant to today's music - and I'm excited to hear it. Just like the DFB fans were excited when Cyclorama came out.
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Postby DavidD » Sat May 05, 2007 12:11 pm

Where can I hear it?
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Postby Abitaman » Sat May 05, 2007 12:34 pm

DavidD wrote:Where can I hear it?
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Postby styxfansite » Sat May 05, 2007 12:39 pm

noticed on http://www.ddytalk.com that the CHOM interview done with Dennis Deyound this morning(5-4-07) is out there if you missed it. "mtlfan" from there "mtllady" from here posted it.

Thanks for the posting. I also recorded it and was going to post it but you beat me to it. Thanks

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Postby styxdudebrandon » Sat May 05, 2007 12:53 pm

styxfansite wrote:noticed on http://www.ddytalk.com that the CHOM interview done with Dennis Deyound this morning(5-4-07) is out there if you missed it. "mtlfan" from there "mtllady" from here posted it.

Thanks for the posting. I also recorded it and was going to post it but you beat me to it. Thanks

http://www.ddytalk.com/forums/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=29


Thanks for the link!
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Postby Abitaman » Sat May 05, 2007 1:27 pm

I have no idea what they are singing in parts, but it is music to my ears :D :D :D . Now get the English cd out NOW, NOW, NOW!!! Bye the way Thanks-ERIC
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Postby DavidD » Sat May 05, 2007 1:51 pm

100 YEARS

"Eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Who among us will speak the truth so our children's children will live in peace somehow? 100 years from now."

I like it. Like it. I believe the song has legs. Not only in Canada. It rocks, has mystic and roughness. And a message. Are youth ready for this message?

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Postby StyxCollector » Sat May 05, 2007 1:52 pm

Ash wrote:Well - everyone here and everywhere has been saying he's washed up and can't do the Styx sound so thats why it's good he's not in the band and yada yada yada yada..... so perhaps there is a bit of him saying "I can do this too". Dennis didn't record his solo albums the way he did because trying to sound like Styx - he was trying to release music with his own style and personality outside of Styx. The songs on his solo records are songs he wanted to write and record at the time he did them. He happens to really like writing a certain kind of song. It isn't that he CAN'T write other kinds of songs, he's just chosen not to.

I just don't see the big deal. If he's out to prove he can still write good prog/melodic rock songs the more power to him. Yeah his music has a flair of theatre in it but that is WHO DENNIS IS and really has been all his life. You're telling me Pieces of Eight wasn't theatric? Listen to the intro of Great White Hope. It was all about being bombastic and dramatic. Allow the man to be true to himself the same way you want the guys in DFB to be true to themselves.

I think it's great he's going to do a new record of material he wants to do that he thinks can be relevant to today's music - and I'm excited to hear it. Just like the DFB fans were excited when Cyclorama came out.


I'm not anti-DDY, remember. You must confuse me with ChicagoSTYX or someone LOL Remember, I like both sides (although I haven't been happy with the output of Styx for awhile). You're pointing the wrong finger on this one. Lumping me in with "you guys" is wrong.

Look, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I don't think he'd write or record something he didn't want to. He's not the type of guy to be forced into anything ;) But to me, he doesn't have to prove anything. If he did another album like Desert Moon, I'm fine with it. It's not me he has to answer to.

My issue - and speaking objectively as someone who has heard the good and the bad from everyone - is that while I know DDY wanted to record this material and I'm glad he found the "inner rocker", it just seems like he's trying a tad bit more than he should be. It doesn't seem as natural, say, as 10 On Broadway sounded. Doesn't mean it's bad. In some ways, it almost seems like Cyclorama - some songs are trying so hard to sound more like older Styx that it doesn't work. That's what I mean.

I'll pass a more official judgement after more listenings and I hear the whole thing, but this is my gut reaction to the song as it stands right now. Better than any of the covers albums? You betcha. I just need to hear it in context of the rest of the album to understand it better.

And as I said, the two songs I've heard (including this one) give me hope that this album will be good. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Postby gr8dane » Sat May 05, 2007 1:53 pm

styxdudebrandon wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
MtlLady wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Thanx for the heads up.
Mnjauuehmnah.
Still tix for the Montreal show.


Already got mine ages ago. You going?


I'm in Toronto,so no.Enjoy.


Hey Gr8dane, Did you go to The DDY show at the Hummingbird centre last June?


No Brandon.I have a knack for booking my holidays a fair bit in advance,and then missing shows because they were anounced later.
Will miss Styx at Rama for the same reason.
Missed Kansas(whom I have never seen) when they were at Rama.+ many others.
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Postby styxdudebrandon » Sat May 05, 2007 11:28 pm

gr8dane wrote:
styxdudebrandon wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
MtlLady wrote:
gr8dane wrote:Thanx for the heads up.
Mnjauuehmnah.
Still tix for the Montreal show.


Already got mine ages ago. You going?


I'm in Toronto,so no.Enjoy.


Hey Gr8dane, Did you go to The DDY show at the Hummingbird centre last June?


No Brandon.I have a knack for booking my holidays a fair bit in advance,and then missing shows because they were anounced later.
Will miss Styx at Rama for the same reason.
Missed Kansas(whom I have never seen) when they were at Rama.+ many others.
Oh well,I'll get over it.
I assume you saw the show,eh?


Yes, I did! It was great.
I met Tommy Dziallo after the show!
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Postby MtlLady » Sun May 06, 2007 12:22 am

styxfansite wrote:noticed on http://www.ddytalk.com that the CHOM interview done with Dennis Deyound this morning(5-4-07) is out there if you missed it. "mtlfan" from there "mtllady" from here posted it.

Thanks for the posting. I also recorded it and was going to post it but you beat me to it. Thanks

http://www.ddytalk.com/forums/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=29


No problem, glad to be of help!

I removed the airplay of the song from the interview, just in case it's inclusion breaks international copyright laws.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun May 06, 2007 12:28 am

StyxCollector wrote:
I'm hoping the full English/DDY version is a bit better.

To me, both songs I've heard so far sound like DDY is trying a bit too hard to sound like old Styx. Maybe I'm wrong. I can tell he wants to silence the naysayers, and this release has the potential of being one of his better solo projects, but I hope it does not sound "forced" for lack of a better term.



Dennis wasn't "trying" to sound like old Styx. With his past solo albums he was catering to the record companies on what they wanted. This time he relaxed (4+ years) wrote/re-wrote and created the songs the way he wanted them to be heard. Notice the accordian? You'll also hear songs that feature him playing his old Oberheim (sp?). On his cd/album the harmonies are back on a few songs that are very melodic and I'm sure MOST of you on THIS Melodic Rock forums will enjoy. 8)
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Postby Abitaman » Sun May 06, 2007 12:35 am

That will good :D -ERIC
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Sun May 06, 2007 12:45 am

I would first like to thank the person who sent me a copy of the song. The song itself seems to be going in the right direction but more than 50% of it is sung by someone else who in my opinion can’t sing! It seems DDY is doing whatever it takes to get some air time in Canada. I guess there is nothing wrong with that. To me musically it does not have the power of a Styx rocker it seems more processed and sounds like a bunch of studio musicians instead of a band but is is a rock song!! If DDY has more songs like this on his CD I may have to give Froy some props but I have to ask this question again….Why did it have to come to this. He should have done this when he had the chance to do it the right way in 1998 on Brave New World.
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Postby MtlLady » Sun May 06, 2007 12:48 am

[quote="styxdudebrandon]I met Tommy Dziallo after the show![/quote]

Isn't he the sweetest? I've met him twice so far. My friends in Quebec tease me about being his "biggest fan" so yeah, I do a "Froy" when it comes to Tommy and will always be a bit biased. :-) I could listen to him all day.

I've still got plenty of room left for DDY though. Did I mention that I can't wait for the CD? When one gets old, one tends to repeat oneself, you know. (Why does that sound familiar??)
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Postby MtlLady » Sun May 06, 2007 12:57 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Dennis wasn't "trying" to sound like old Styx. With his past solo albums he was catering to the record companies on what they wanted. This time he relaxed (4+ years) wrote/re-wrote and created the songs the way he wanted them to be heard. Notice the accordian? You'll also hear songs that feature him playing his old Oberheim (sp?). On his cd/album the harmonies are back on a few songs that are very melodic and I'm sure MOST of you on THIS Melodic Rock forums will enjoy. 8)


Now I'm REALLY looking forward to it. If that's at all possible! His melodies always touch me all the way to my toes and give me the shivers.

Is it June yet? :lol:
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Postby brywool » Sun May 06, 2007 2:12 am

Just heard the song (thanks to a Forum Member!)

THIS is what you want to hear from Dennis? While the guitar solo and the guitar sound (thank God) sounded good.
However, it sounds like Andrew Loydd Weber, not Dennis Deyoung. Totally sounds like something out of "Phantom of the Opera" or even "Wicked". Good shows with good scores, but not what I want to hear from Dennis. Good lyrics, but even more Broadway than he's ever been and not exactly what I'd call radio friendly. Good vocal by Dennis but while the song might be cool in his symphonic shows, I can't see a rock audience digging it.
Nice to hear him again though. It doesn't sound like Styx at all to me. Sounds like "Hunchback part II".
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