DDY Canadian Release

[rajah2165]

The song is no "Kiss Your Ass Goodbye," "Grand Illusion" or "Born for Adventure," that's for sure. To quote Randy Jackson "It was just ok for me, dawg."[/color][/b]

I finally got a chance to listen to the song and this is where I (once again) disagree with your opinion. I don't want Dennis doing another Grand Illusion or Born For Adventure. Been there, done that. Anytime an artist repeats what he/she has done in the past - it isn't evolving. That is why I say that PIECES of EIGHT is the WEAKEST OF ALL A&M albums. It is the only one where the band didn't change directions - its a poor sequel to Grand Illusion. Every other A&M album you can point to and say they had a different sound. But Pieces of 8 is just another rehash of GI and a poorer one at that.

So, I congratulate DDY on not trying to rerecord a Born For Adventure like so many of you "DDY needs to rock more" people evidently want him to do. I think he has taken a step out there in a different directions. I have only heard the song once. Its okay - it has its moments. I don't like that French bastard, however. He sucks - worse voice than JY. Would like to hear a DDY only version.

Oh, I don't need to see a rehash of old style either. I meant, it doesn't have the same killer hook or impact that any of those 3 songs did. I agree most with DJMike in that I don't personally care if it "rocks" or not, I just want it to grab me.

As for LaPointe, I kinda dig his voice, but I agree that it does not belong in a duet with Dennis. Far too different styles to make it work, IMO.

Do you think that song works if it is DDY and Burnik as the secod voice? I'm also not a big fan of the French. What the hell are they saying anyway?

[Zan]

As for LaPointe, I kinda dig his voice, but I agree that it does not belong in a duet with Dennis. Far too different styles to make it work, IMO.[/color][/b]

Do you think that song works if it is DDY and Burnik as the secod voice? I'm also not a big fan of the French. What the hell are they saying anyway?

Hmmm...Well, based on "All in a Day's Work," and nothing else, I'd say it would be a better match, but still not a good fit. I'm thinking more like Josh Groban (who I love, btw), or, if we're keeping with the Canadian theme, Celine Dion. PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but Dennis' voice, to me, is not a rock voice at all anymore. He has evolved into something, shall we say, more sophisticated, and has found a niche there. His voice is too pure, too "clean" for rock music anymore. Kinda Julie Andrews covering Metallica. There is certainly nothing wrong with Julie Andrews' voice, she has great pipes, but not for that kind of music. It doesn't seem natural (Same reason I don't sing AC/DC songs in my band - it would sound silly). "Show me the Way" and "Goodbye to Roseland," to me, are perfect fits for the style in which Denny sings. Glen, while he can pull of a ballad or two, has more "edge" in his voice.

I just realized who Eric LaPointe reminds me of: That guy from Trans Siberian Orchestra - he sings on some of the Xmas stuff they put out. Or even one of the past Phantoms.

[MtlLady]

I'm also not a big fan of the French. What the hell are they saying anyway?

Okay, here's my best guess at the french lyrics:

Est-ce possible d'oublier
Pourrons nous nous pardonner
Nos fils pourront ils vivent
De la memoire delivrer du sang sous nos pieds

Apres les hecatombes
Le coeur comme une bombe
Au milieu des decombres
Qui voudra venir au monde

Prier debout
Plus jamais a genou
Y'a seulement/souvent/surement (?) un homme assez fou
Pour tuer les Dieux qui nous dechirent depuis la nuit des temps

Comment pourront nos yeux
Ronger par la honte
Trouver de la lumiere
Pendant que la nuit tombe
Sur la fin d'un monde

Prier mes freres
Condamner la guerre
Qui brule les quatre coins de la terre
Prier pour tous ce qui veulent
Venger leurs enfants

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

[Zan]

[quote="rajah2165]I'm also not a big fan of the French. What the hell are they saying anyway?

Okay, here's my best guess at the french lyrics:

Est-ce possible d'oublier
Pourrons nous nous pardonner
Nos fils pourront ils vivent
De la memoire delivrer du sang sous nos pieds

Apres les hecatombes
Le coeur comme une bombe
Au milieu des decombres
Qui voudra venir au monde

Prier debout
Plus jamais a genou
Y'a seulement/souvent/surement (?) un homme assez fou
Pour tuer les Dieux qui nous dechirent depuis la nuit des temps

Comment pourront nos yeux
Ronger par la honte
Trouver de la lumiere
Pendant que la nuit tombe
Sur la fin d'un monde

Prier mes freres
Condamner la guerre
Qui brule les quatre coins de la terre
Prier pour tous ce qui veulent
Venger leurs enfants

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)[/quote]


I think he meant in English.

[MtlLady]

[quote="Zan]I just realized who Eric LaPointe reminds me of: That guy from Trans Siberian Orchestra - he sings on some of the Xmas stuff they put out. Or even one of the past Phantoms.[/quote]

Funny you should mention TSO. I find the last few notes of that song to be TSO-ish. Am I the only one?

And yes, LaPointe does sound like that guy from TSO (What's his name again?), except that I *liked* that guy's singing when I saw TSO in November last year. What a show that was!

[MtlLady]

I think he meant in English. [/quote]

Yeah, I know, that's why I said I couldn't help myself!

Actually, the French lyrics pretty well follow the spirit of the English ones.

[Ash]

[quote="Zan]I just realized who Eric LaPointe reminds me of: That guy from Trans Siberian Orchestra - he sings on some of the Xmas stuff they put out. Or even one of the past Phantoms.

Funny you should mention TSO. I find the last few notes of that song to be TSO-ish. Am I the only one?

And yes, LaPointe does sound like that guy from TSO (What's his name again?), except that I *liked* that guy's singing when I saw TSO in November last year. What a show that was!

Zachery Stevens is the singer from Trans Siberian Orchestra - and he was the lead singer for Savatage as well (TSO is actually the band Savatage with an orchestra).

[ManOfMiracles]

Personally, I don't think Dennis' voice is "too clean" for rock music. I guess what you're saying is he doesn't sound like the others? Me, I find being unique and different a good thing.

[Ash]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

[Zan]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

LOL if you say so.

[stabbim]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

LOL if you say so.

Yes, production values have changed twixt now and then, but he is using his voice differently as well. Plus, with the aging. And stuff.

[StyxCollector]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

Tonally it's pretty much the same. He really hasn't lost his range.

However, listen to him even on EOTC vs. his stint after Jesus Christ Superstar and 10 on Broadway - he got more of that vibrato. He had more of a rock voice prior to the 90s. Once he got more away from doing the theater stuff it became more of a rock voice again BUT it never fully went back. It's more of a hybrid now. I've brough this up in the past.

[styxdudebrandon]

I went to a translation site and translated it and here is what came up:

Is this possible one to forget we will be able to forgive ourselves Our son will be able they live memoire
delivrer of the blood under our feet

Apres the hecatombes The heart as a bomb In The middle of the decombres That will want to come to the world

Pray standing more never has knee THERE HAS only/often a man rather crazy to kill the Gods that
we dechirent since the night of the times

How will be able our eyes To Gnaw by shame To Find lumiere while the night falls On the end of a world

Pray my brothers To Condemn the war That brule the four corners of the earth To Pray for all this that want To
Avenge their children

[DarwinNebraska]

I wanna hear!! If somebody could hook me up with this, that would be great!

[styxfansite]

I wanna hear!! If somebody could hook me up with this, that would be great!

Posted earlier in the thread on page 5.

http://download.yousendit.com/5342E97F1704AED8

Here it is. Good for 100 downloads or 7 days whichever come first. Just note that about 4 minutes in it drops out for a second or so. It occurred while being captured during the original cature and can't be corrected.

Thanks to the provider who gave it to me

[styxfanNH]

always good to read the emtire thread instead of jumping into the middle of it.

[Grotelul]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

I disagree. I don't think he sounds the same way he did in the '70's. He is a better singer today but to me it does not fit as well with the rock style. For ballads and broadway it's fine but for the stuff I like, I would rather hear his older style.

[froy]

Dennis' voice is the same now as it was in the 70's .... the only difference is he's producing himself a lot cleaner without all of the doubling and effecting that was done on Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight.

I disagree. I don't think he sounds the same way he did in the '70's. He is a better singer today but to me it does not fit as well with the rock style.

I agree and disagree
He sings his rock songs from the past better than ever,
His voice is not the same as in the 70s
No way
Its better now,

[DarwinNebraska]

Dennis delivers.... wow... a long lost friend has returned.

[StyxCollector]

So I just listened to the YouTube copy which is arguably a bit more clear.

I would agree with others if you had Tommy or Glen singing with him, it'd be much better. I think the bruskness of Eric Lapointe's voice makes it sound more theatrical than if TS or GB were doing the part.

Although I don't think it's Tommy D. on some of those solo licks ... he's never been Mr. Chopfest. Could be some studio cat.

[froy]

Could be some studio cat.

It sure is;

[stabbim]

Could be some studio cat.

It sure is;

A studio cat straight out of 1989. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[StyxCollector]

A studio cat straight out of 1989. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Pass the Aqua Net (tm)

[MtlLady]

I went to a translation site and translated it and here is what came up: <snip>

Ow, that's painful. That's why I hate those translation programs.

My week is crazy until Friday, but after that, I'll translate the lyrics for you. Translating from French to English is a hell of a lot easier than the other way around.

[MtlLady]

Could be some studio cat.

It sure is

He's done a nice job, whoever he his.

[roven]

I went to a translation site and translated it and here is what came up: <snip>

Ow, that's painful. That's why I hate those translation programs.

My week is crazy until Friday, but after that, I'll translate the lyrics for you. Translating from French to English is a hell of a lot easier than the other way around.

It looks like you never got around to it. I found that there are a couple of differences in the French from the studio version to a live version that was on YouTube.

Studio:

Est-ce possible d'oublier ? Pourrons-nous nous pardonner ?
Is it possible to forget? Can we forgive ourselves?

and

Comment pourront nos yeux, rongés par la honte,
How can our eyes, gnawed by shame,

Live:

Impossible d'oublier. Pourrons-nous se pardonner ?
Impossible to forget. Can we be forgiven?

and

Comment pourront nos yeux, aveuglés par la honte,
How can our eyes, blinded by shame,

Here's my best attempt at translating the lyrics en anglais:

Is it possible to forget? Can we forgive ourselves?
Will our sons be able to live with the memory of pounds of blood beneath our feet?
After the massacres, the heart like a bomb
In the midst of the ruins, who would want to come into the world?

Pray standing, never again on your knees
There is surely a man crazy enough
To kill the gods who have torn us since the beginning of time

How can our eyes, gnawed by shame, find the light,
While the night falls on the end of a world?

Pray my brothers, condemn the war
Which burns to the four corners of the Earth
Pray for all those who want to avenge their children

[roven]

Could be some studio cat.

It sure is

He's done a nice job, whoever he his.

BTW, I believe the guitarist is Stéphane Dufour, the guitar player from Eric's band.