The Ultimate Set List!!!!!!!

by **StyxCollector** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:31 am

stabbim wrote:We'll never know.

Some things are better left unsung (so-to-speak).

by **StyxCollector** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:33 am

stabbim wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:
stabbim wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:And if you knew your Styx history, you would know that they did an acoustic set on most of their tours.

Since when does RTP --> BNW count as "most?"

Look at the original Paradise theatre tour. And the Grand Decathalon tour.

PT Tour: A couple of acoustic tunes in Japan, but that's it.
GD Tour: Zilch, at least on the shows I've heard.

Even if you grant the handful of Japanese shows and the one -- occasionally two -- songs from the EOTC tour (and I wouldn't) it hardly points to a long-running tradition of Styx having an acoustic set in their shows. They didn't even play "Boat On The River" as a regular part of US shows until 96.

Stabbim's right. Styx has no rich history of doing an acoustic set - and I mean a formal one. Doing "All In A Day's Work" is one song - vastly different than what they did with the Evening With ... shows. The most you usually got was Tommy's acoustic solo (same one he's been donig since 1978 at some shows).

by **styxfansite** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:43 am

blt man wrote:One DDY song I think Gowan would be able to do an OK job with is Lorelei. Do we know why JY took on that song (co-writer? in his range?)

Let me also say I do not care to much for Jy's version of Lorelei.

by **styxfansite** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:46 am

blt man wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:Claw my eyes out if I have to hear Gowan singing some of those songs. I guess you haven't heard the boots of him crooning "Babe" and "The Best Of Times". There's a reason they don't do them, and it's not just because JY doesn't like to play them.

I like Gowan. He just sucks singing certain Styx songs.

Where can one find the boots of gowan singing babe/best of times/queen of spades??????

Anyone? I am also wondering...

Try www.guitars101.com and look in the Bootleg forum. You might find it there. YOu will also find many other boots of other performers.

There are probably other sites but I am not aware of them.

Thanks

by **GrandIllusionist725** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:54 am

I heard the boots of Lawrence on Babe and stuff, eh...

Its different. IMO I think that Everything is Cool would be helluva lot better than Desert Moon.

by **AnnieOprah** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:29 am

GrandIllusionist725 wrote:I heard the boots of Lawrence on Babe and stuff, eh...

Its different. IMO I think that Everything is Cool would be helluva lot better than Desert Moon.

IMHO, I don't think the band or the fans want to ever, ever visit any part of that album in any concert setting again!! Can we just forget that it ever existed?

by **AnnieOprah** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:33 am

rajah2165 wrote:
Grotelul wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:Here is your chance to create the ultimate unlimited set list for a styx concert. Here's mine:

Blue Collar Man
Grand Illusion
Lorelei
Too Much Time
Can't Find My Way Home
Babe (Larry Vocal)
Light Up (JY Vocal)
Walrus
Doctor
Lady
All I Want For Christmas
Pieces Of Eight (Larry Vocal)
Summer In The City
Edge Of The Century (Tommy Vocal)
Love Is The Ritual (Ricky Vocal)
Killing The Thing You Love (Ricky Vocal)
A Criminal Mind
Suite Madame Blue
Haven't We Been Here Before?
Don't Let It End (Larry Vocal)
Just Be
** Intermission**
Crystal Ball
Show Me The Way (Larry Vocal)
Rockin' The Paradise
Best Of Times (Larry Vocal)
High Enough
Fooling Yourself (with chuck)
Mr. Roboto (Larry Vocal)
Ms. America
Dear John
Come Sail Away (with chuck)
**Encore**
Borrowed Time (Larry Vocal)
Renegade (with chuck)

First, the right line-up would have to be in place...
DDY, TS, GB, JY, CP, TS...byuh byuh Lawrence..

Grand Illusion
Foolin Yourself
Lady
Lorelei
Too Much Time On My Hands
Show Me The Way
Blue Collar Man
Babe

Acoustic Set
Boat On The River
All In A Day's Work
High Enough
Man In The Wilderness
Sing For the Day

Queen of Spades
Edge of the Century
Don't Let It End

Intermission

Mr. Roboto
Rockin The Paradise
Crystal Ball
Suite Madame Blue
Desert Moon
Love Is The Ritual
Haven't We Been Here Before?
Borrowed Time
Miss America
Pieces of Eight
Come Sail Away

Encore
Renegade
Best of Times

Desert Moon at a Styx show? You can't be serious. Some of your choices are outright ridiculous. No one wants to hear an Acoustic set, no one wants to hear Haven't We Been Here Before or Babe or Show Me The Way or a full version of Mr. Roboto or Don't Let It End. Way too many slow songs here for a ROCK show. You play 3 hrs, you want to hear some GOOD rare stuff, not sappy love songs or songs they have played in the past 20 yrs.

Hey idiot.. you are a complete tool. Those are the biggest fucking hits. If you also noticed, I included High Enough which yes isn't a Styx song either. But its Tommy's biggest song outside of Styx and Desert Moon is Dennis's biggest song outside of Styx. If you are looking for a retrospective then you include those songs. Fans want to hear the hits and those are the hits moron. The average fan doesn't want to here Shooz or any of that crap.

And if you knew your Styx history, you would know that they did an acoustic set on most of their tours.

While I wouldn't have chosen the language you chose to make your point, I do think that if you really wanted to have a complete concert of Styx, that you would put in one or two cursory songs from the solo years. I've seen Journey with Perry in 1986 and they did Oh Sherrie, and I've seen Genesis do a Phil Collins solo song too. Its part of their history and I would love to hear Shaw and DeYoung harmonize on High Enough and also think Desert Moon would be a good addition.. (not so sure about Haven't We Been Here Before). How about an updated medley?

by **Grotelul** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:47 am

ManOfMiracles wrote:
Grotelul wrote:
Desert Moon at a Styx show? You can't be serious. Some of your choices are outright ridiculous. No one wants to hear an Acoustic set, no one wants to hear Haven't We Been Here Before or Babe or Show Me The Way or a full version of Mr. Roboto or Don't Let It End. Way too many slow songs here for a ROCK show. You play 3 hrs, you want to hear some GOOD rare stuff, not sappy love songs or songs they have played in the past 20 yrs.

Heyyyy, it's the "sweeping generalities" guy again! Again... how can you claim "no one wants to hear..." this that or the other thing? Have you really been appointed by the masses to speak for us all? Heck, even if I'm the ONLY one who disagrees, I guess ya can't say "no one" anymore, can ya? And why is it you balk at "Desert Moon" at a Styx show? Because it's not a Styx song? Because it's a ballad? I noticed you didn't have any adverse feelings about "High Enough," so what's the excuse there?
Do you actually have to call someone else's preferences to hear Mr. Roboto or anything else "ridiculous" simply beacuse they are not YOUR choices? Hitler? Do ya?

Some of us are Styx fans, not just selective-Styx fans...

OMG...you are too funny. You need to seriously lighten up. Are you this serious all the time?

by **Grotelul** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:52 am

rajah2165 wrote:
Grotelul wrote:
rajah2165 wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:Here is your chance to create the ultimate unlimited set list for a styx concert. Here's mine:

Blue Collar Man
Grand Illusion
Lorelei
Too Much Time
Can't Find My Way Home
Babe (Larry Vocal)
Light Up (JY Vocal)
Walrus
Doctor
Lady
All I Want For Christmas
Pieces Of Eight (Larry Vocal)
Summer In The City
Edge Of The Century (Tommy Vocal)
Love Is The Ritual (Ricky Vocal)
Killing The Thing You Love (Ricky Vocal)
A Criminal Mind
Suite Madame Blue
Haven't We Been Here Before?
Don't Let It End (Larry Vocal)
Just Be
** Intermission**
Crystal Ball
Show Me The Way (Larry Vocal)
Rockin' The Paradise
Best Of Times (Larry Vocal)
High Enough
Fooling Yourself (with chuck)
Mr. Roboto (Larry Vocal)
Ms. America
Dear John
Come Sail Away (with chuck)
**Encore**
Borrowed Time (Larry Vocal)
Renegade (with chuck)

First, the right line-up would have to be in place...
DDY, TS, GB, JY, CP, TS...byuh byuh Lawrence..

Grand Illusion
Foolin Yourself
Lady
Lorelei
Too Much Time On My Hands
Show Me The Way
Blue Collar Man
Babe

Acoustic Set
Boat On The River
All In A Day's Work
High Enough
Man In The Wilderness
Sing For the Day

Queen of Spades
Edge of the Century
Don't Let It End

Intermission

Mr. Roboto
Rockin The Paradise
Crystal Ball
Suite Madame Blue
Desert Moon
Love Is The Ritual
Haven't We Been Here Before?
Borrowed Time
Miss America
Pieces of Eight
Come Sail Away

Encore
Renegade
Best of Times

Desert Moon at a Styx show? You can't be serious. Some of your choices are outright ridiculous. No one wants to hear an Acoustic set, no one wants to hear Haven't We Been Here Before or Babe or Show Me The Way or a full version of Mr. Roboto or Don't Let It End. Way too many slow songs here for a ROCK show. You play 3 hrs, you want to hear some GOOD rare stuff, not sappy love songs or songs they have played in the past 20 yrs.

Hey idiot.. you are a complete tool. Those are the biggest fucking hits. If you also noticed, I included High Enough which yes isn't a Styx song either. But its Tommy's biggest song outside of Styx and Desert Moon is Dennis's biggest song outside of Styx. If you are looking for a retrospective then you include those songs. Fans want to hear the hits and those are the hits moron. The average fan doesn't want to here Shooz or any of that crap.

And if you knew your Styx history, you would know that they did an acoustic set on most of their tours.

Are you in 9th grade? Next time I will get your approval before posting.

by **Grotelul** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:30 am

Here is MY Ultimate Styx set list with of course..DDY, TS, JY, CP, GB, TS

Grand Illusion
Fooling Yourself
Lorelei
Lady
Queen of Spades
Snowblind
Crystal Ball
Blue Collar Man

**Edge Medley**
Love Is The Ritual
Show Me The Way
World Tonight
Edge of The Century

**Roboto Medley**
Mr Roboto
Cold War
High Time
Heavy Metal Poisoning
Don't Let it End (Reprise)

Lights
Babe
Suite Madame Blue

**Intermission**

Rockin The Paradise
Too Much Time On My Hands
Borrowed Time
Boat On The River
Born For Adventure

**Early Years Medley**
You Need Love
22 Years
Best Thing
Winner Takes All
Young Man

Light Up
Miss America
Man In The Wilderness
Castle Walls w/The Grand Finale
Best of Times
Half Penny Two Penny
Pieces of Eight
Renegade

Encore
Midnight Ride
Come Sail Away

by **yogi** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:39 am

By the time they finished your set list the nursing home doors would be locked and they all would have to sleep on the street.

Shorten your list down to lets say......................................................

a 4 hour show.

If I kept score correctly you had 31 full songs plus two medleys.

During their first intermission Jeb Bush became President.

by **Grotelul** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:10 pm

yogi wrote:By the time they finished your set list the nursing home doors would be locked and they all would have to sleep on the street.

Shorten your list down to lets say......................................................

a 4 hour show.

If I kept score correctly you had 31 full songs plus two medleys.

During their first intermission Jeb Bush became President.

26 full songs and 3 medleys. I suppose I could take a few off but Rush's total show runs about 3h 15m and I think this could be close.

by **stabbim** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:12 pm

AnnieOprah wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:I heard the boots of Lawrence on Babe and stuff, eh...

Its different. IMO I think that Everything is Cool would be helluva lot better than Desert Moon.

IMHO, I don't think the band or the fans want to ever, ever visit any part of that album in any concert setting again!! Can we just forget that it ever existed?

*raises hand*

I liked more of it than I disliked, and thought the tunes they played in concert came across very well.

So I guess that makes at least two of us who would want to hear EiC...

by **Grotelul** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:16 pm

yogi wrote:By the time they finished your set list the nursing home doors would be locked and they all would have to sleep on the street.

Shorten your list down to lets say......................................................

a 4 hour show.

If I kept score correctly you had 31 full songs plus two medleys.

During their first intermission Jeb Bush became President.

\

I could remove the Roboto and Edge Medley's...26 full songs and 1 medley.

by **Zan** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:29 pm

stabbim wrote:
AnnieOprah wrote:IMHO, I don't think the band or the fans want to ever, ever visit any part of that album in any concert setting again!! Can we just forget that it ever existed?

*raises hand*

I liked more of it than I disliked, and thought the tunes they played in concert came across very well.

So I guess that makes at least two of us who would want to hear EiC...

Three. And if you count all the online fans that are smart enough to stay away from this particular board, you'd have a lot more.

by **stabbim** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:32 pm

Zan wrote:
stabbim wrote:So I guess that makes at least two of us who would want to hear EiC...

Three. And if you count all the online fans that are smart enough to stay away from this particular board, you'd have a lot more.

Fair point.

by **ManOfMiracles** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:39 pm

Grotelul wrote:

OMG...you are too funny. You need to seriously lighten up. Are you this serious all the time?

Me? Serious? Are you kidding? You dont think I'd really compare you to Hitler, do ya? Come on... he dressed much better. :wink:

by **LordofDaRing** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:11 am

I agree with Yogi, some of you guys forgot they still have unions and roadies that would not be to happy with those marathon sets, but in the spirit of this forum: Lineup includes TS, DDY, GB, CP, TS and LG (yes to play all the keyboards and sing harmony/backup vocals)

AD 1928
Rocking the Paradise
Blue Collar Man
Born for Adventure
Lights
Love is the Ritual
Grand Illusion
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Acoustic set:
Boat on the River
All in A Day's Work
Show Me the Way
Sing For the Day
Dear John
Back to Electric
Borrowed Time
Everything is Cool
Edge of the Century
Come Sail Away
Encores
KYAG
Renegade

by **Zan** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:20 am

LordofDaRing wrote:I agree with Yogi, some of you guys forgot they still have unions and roadies that would not be to happy with those marathon sets...

LMAO...As if this thread is based on ANY sort of reality to begin with. You guys are funny! :lol:

by **cittadeeno23** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:52 am

I like LordofdaRing's setlist. However, I would suggest to Deep 6 Larry. He's not needed.
Let him be the opening act.

Then just add Castle Walls and Love in the Midnight and it would be a great set.

by **rajah2165** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:55 am

Zan wrote:
LordofDaRing wrote:I agree with Yogi, some of you guys forgot they still have unions and roadies that would not be to happy with those marathon sets...

LMAO...As if this thread is based on ANY sort of reality to begin with. You guys are funny!

If we are dreaming then let me put out another one...

This would be a chronological set list...

Wooden Nickle Years
Wooden Nickel Medley (8 minutes) - You Need Love, Best Thing, Christopher, Mr. Christopher, Unfinished Song, Earl of Roseland, Rock and Roll Feeling, 22 years,

Lady (3 minutes)

Early A&M Years
Early A&M medley (8 minutes) - Put Me On, Born For Adventure, Ballerina, Midnight Ride, Light Up, Mademoiselle, This Old Man

Lorelei (4 1/2 minutes)

Suite Madame Blue (8 minutes)

Crystal Ball (5 minutes)

Triple Platinum Years Part I
Triple Platinum years Part I medley (10 minutes) - Great White Hope, I'm Okay, Man In The Wilderness, Castle Walls, Superstars, Sing For The Day, Miss America, Queen of Spades...

Grand Illusion (4 1/2 minutes)

Foolin' Yourself (5 1/2 minutes)

Renegade (6 minutes)

Blue Collar Man (5 minutes)

Come Sail Away (8 minutes)

INTERMISSION

Triple Platinum Years Part 2

Paradise Theatre Set Up

AD 1928/Rockin The Paradise ( 5 1/2 minutes)

Triple Platinum part 2 medley. (8 minutes) .Borrowed Time, Why Me?, Lights, Nothing Ever Goes As Planned, Snowblind, Lonely People.

Babe (4 1/2 minutes)

Boat On the River (3 minutes)

Too Much Time (5 minutes)

Best of Times (5 minutes)

Half Penny/Two Penny with AD 1958 (7 minutes)

Roboto & solo Years

Mr. Roboto (5 1/2 minutes)

Roboto/solo medley (12 minutes) Heavy Metal Poisoning, High Time, Haven't We Been Here Before, Double Life, Music Time, Girls with Guns, City Slicker, Black Wall, Outsider, Boomchild

Desert Moon (6 minutes)

Don't Let It End (5 minutes)

ENCORE

90s-present

Love Is The Ritual

Show Me The Way

ENCORE II

Present medley.....Edge of the Century...Back To Chicago...Not Dead Yet... Love At First Sight..Little Suzie..Everything Is Cool...Paradise...One With Everything...I am The Walrus....

Dear John

End of show...

That is right 6 medleys and 21 full songs...

What a show..

by **X factor** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:15 am

Here's my ultimate set list:

AD 1928 / Rockin the Paradise
Renegade (get it out of the way early!)
Snowblind
Great White Hope
Love is the Ritual
Waiting for our time
Angry Young Man (foolin yourself)
Crystal Ball
Suite Madame Blue
Nothing Ever Goes as Planned
Man in the Wilderness/ Castle Walls medley
Queen of Spades
Too Much Time on my hands
Ms America
Come Sail Away

ENCORES
Blue Collar Man
Pieces of Eight
Don't let it end

by **Grotelul** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:23 am

LordofDaRing wrote:I agree with Yogi, some of you guys forgot they still have unions and roadies that would not be to happy with those marathon sets, but in the spirit of this forum: Lineup includes TS, DDY, GB, CP, TS and LG (yes to play all the keyboards and sing harmony/backup vocals)

AD 1928
Rocking the Paradise
Blue Collar Man
Born for Adventure
Lights
Love is the Ritual
Grand Illusion
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Acoustic set:
Boat on the River
All in A Day's Work
Show Me the Way
Sing For the Day
Dear John
Back to Electric
Borrowed Time
Everything is Cool
Edge of the Century
Come Sail Away
Encores
KYAG
Renegade

How does Rush get away with playing 3h 15m shows? Last tour they played about 24-25 full songs, 2 medleys (a good 10-12m each) and a drum solo. A few of these songs go at least 8-10m. I was basing my setlist on this.

by **yogi** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:32 pm

Here is Yogi's set list.

1. Born For Adventure
2. A Criminal Mind ( Gowan )
3. The Grand Illusion
4. You Need Love
5. Crystal Ball
6. Best Thing
7. Walrus(Gowan)
8. Lady
9. One With Everything
10. All For Love
11. Edge Of The Century
12. These Are the Times
13. The Best Of Times
14. Mr. Roboto
15.Blue Collar Man
16. Babe
17. Kiss Your Ass Goodbye
18. Show Me The Way
19. Suite Madame Blue
20 Miss America
Encores
21. Renegade
22. Fooling Yourself
23. Come Sail Away

Final encore
24. Dear John

* Alternate songs: Goodbye Roseland, Too Much Time On My Hands, Young Man

This represents who Styx was, and who they are now. All members are in,and Dennis is back.

by **StyxCollector** » Sun May 27, 2007 5:24 am

Grotelul wrote:How does Rush get away with playing 3h 15m shows? Last tour they played about 24-25 full songs, 2 medleys (a good 10-12m each) and a drum solo. A few of these songs go at least 8-10m. I was basing my setlist on this.

Because they have a large fanbase that still comes out and they sell out large venues. That's how. Rush has done the whole evening with type shows exclusively -with no opener since the Test for Echo tour (1996/1997).

Styx or DDY? Neither is close. They only way they do these large venues is part of a package tour a la Def Leppard.

It's just the way it is.

by **Grotelul** » Sun May 27, 2007 1:03 pm

StyxCollector wrote:
Grotelul wrote:How does Rush get away with playing 3h 15m shows? Last tour they played about 24-25 full songs, 2 medleys (a good 10-12m each) and a drum solo. A few of these songs go at least 8-10m. I was basing my setlist on this.

Because they have a large fanbase that still comes out and they sell out large venues. That's how. Rush has done the whole evening with type shows exclusively -with no opener since the Test for Echo tour (1996/1997).

Styx or DDY? Neither is close. They only way they do these large venues is part of a package tour a la Def Leppard.

It's just the way it is.

I understand Rush having a large fanbase and therefore being able to do what they do and I understand Styx in the real world not being able to do this. What I was responding to was someone stating that I was crazy to have a setlist that I think would go about the same amount of time as a Rush show.

by **LordofDaRing** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:42 am

Maybe the unions from Canada are a little more lax with the times. I have always heard that the unions and roadies have a lot to say about the lengths of the show. The fact that they have to tear it all down, drive to the next city and put it all back up, I really don't know how they do it.

by **mikemarrs** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:01 pm

here is my ultimate setlist....

1-miss america
2-rockin' the paradise
3-too much time on my hands
4-blue collar man
5-queen of spades
6-renegade
7-pieces of eight
8-the grand illusion
9-fooling yourself
10-borrowed time
11-snowblind
12-suite madame blue
13-crystal ball
14-the best of times
15-don't let it end
16-come sail away

MR

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