Does Anyone remember this Band?

[Red13JoePa]

Yep.
Only Me, NealIsGod and NoMoreTails want to hear them branch out and rock some of the lesser know fast songs.

What on earth are you talking about, Red?

Specifically your holding that for the most part the 3 of us guys are rare in Journey fandom, dudes who want to hear them rock harder more often.


I agree with you though that we're not like the vocal minority Metallica Heads who call the stations and go "Play Ride The Lightning, Dude!!!"

So that the band panders to the soccer mom SUV yuppie crowd who come to hear the running order of GH in turn.

[StevePerryHair]

Yep.
Only Me, NealIsGod and NoMoreTails want to hear them branch out and rock some of the lesser know fast songs.

What on earth are you talking about, Red?

Specifically your holding that for the most part the 3 of us guys are rare in Journey fandom, dudes who want to hear them rock harder more often.


I agree with you though that we're not like the vocal minority Metallica Heads who call the stations and go "Play Ride The Lightning, Dude!!!"

So that the band panders to the soccer mom SUV yuppie crowd who come to hear the running order of GH in turn.

Have you seen the crowd lately?? Clearwater had lots of "older" people who wouldn't let us stand up during the concert and House of Blues had lots of drunk 20 somethings. Not always he yuppie crowd you might think.

[Melissa]

Yeah at the HOB I think just us MR crowd were the only ones who knew the words to Opened the Door.

Funny as hell though to see drunk guys in baseball hats singing Open Arms to EACH OTHER.

[brywool]

Journey. I seem to recall they were pretty good at one time.

Yep.

Fucking Shame, too.

Where are they?

Who cares?

Why should WE care, if they don't?

Hey Deano, don't say "you're tired of waiting for them" or all hell will break loose! Tried it once, holy crap!

I will expect to see "dickweek" posts show up any time...

[Blueskies]

Clearwater freaked me out, never seen that many obese people in one room at once like that before. Was a HUGE crowd.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I still argue that the root cause here is the fans. JOURNEY has been pandering to fans that want 1981 JOURNEY or else they'll run for beers.

True.
Flippin idiots have SUCH ADD it's incredible. It's not even relegated to new songs, either. old songs not on the GH trigger stampeeds, too.


How about the Irvine boot, that dude going "PLAY SOMETHING GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!" from what sounded like a centimeter away from the bootlegger's mic

I'd say the problem is the pandering to the fans...not the fans themselves.

Pandering to fans is a MUST if you're going to succeed. Music IS a business as much as it is an art. The question is: what TYPE of audience do you want to pander to?

Note that I said they've been pandering to an audience that wants to hear 1981 JOURNEY. Listen, if you're going to "crack the stone" and forge ahead then you MUST move forward with the same confidence and sense of adventure that got you where you wanted to go in the past.

When JOURNEY brought in SP they did so in order to pander to a certain audience.

Pandering WORKS. It's a matter of what kind of audience you want to pander to or attract.

[Saint John]

They've sucked since 98.
JSS- a great frontman working with a musically stagnant band. No fire or emotion in the music anymore. Jeff, should leave and seek a group of guys with more creativity. Journey is artistically dead.

Schon- Same playing for the better part of 20 years (as it pertains to Journey). Melodic, only at times, then a crammed 30 second solo.

Cain- Guy hasn't done shit since Frontiers. Shouldn't even be in the band. A "divider." Completely useless. A control freak who's running around like a dog with a 20 year old bone in his mouth. Should be fired immediately, if at all possible.

Castronovo- Great guy and a great drummer....just not in Journey. All of Journey's original material with HIM in the band has featured mediocre drumming, at best. The band needs Smith back. Thanks Deen, but you too are fired.

Valory- Ah, good old Ross. A great bassist and a good man. Ross is a keeper, always has been (hear that Perry). Needs Smith back, though. The two of them really layed it down.

That's my 2 minute review of Journe as we now know them.

PS Azoff should be fired too, but I figured that goes without saying. As of right NOW, Journey sucks. I'd rather go see Frontiers. They actually look like they love what they're doing. I can only say that about Jeff and Ross as far as Journey goes.

--- Well,with Perry out of the band,the landscape sure changed.Not sure if they sucked 100% considering that Arrival was a pretty good album.

---No fire and emotion anymore with JSS? Why do you say that?Since he joined,everyone has been excited,including the band.Wasn't this board all fired up about the wave of energy shot into the band,smiles on stage included?

---So Schon is playing the same?Well,hopefully he will always play like he does - that's the reason why he IS Neal Schon.That's his style.
He was so loved here,what happened?

---Castronovo?I believe he came extremely close to the classic Journey sound,voice wise.I wouldn't fire such a talent in a million years!

---Cain?He is very good,but maybe he has lost his Muse.My opinion is that Perry was definitely his inspiration.
Maybe not even Cain himself admits that,who knows?

---Azoff should have done more,agreed.But perhaps he wasn't inspired either...


Come on,SJ...."Journey sucks"?Why?Because they took the year off and the fans are bored?...Or maybe there are other reasons?

Whatever...

The "fire and emotion" with JSS is TBA. I, unlike others, do NOT count covers. If I did, I'd pay less money and go see Frontiers. All in all, they're closer to the original sound anyway.

Schon needs to come up with something new. Red 13 and Generations were perfect examples of him playing "filler' solos. Great solos indeed, just didn't go with the songs being played. He's lost his ability to "interact" with the singer. Neal simply uses touring as a means to whore around. A few more botox injections and his face will look like Saran Wrap

Castronovo "such a talent?" Based on what? Being a cover singer? Or is it the mediocre (at best) job he's done as an original drummer for Journey? He couldn't carry Smitty's sticks (not many can in all fairness). There are hundreds of drummers that could have done the job he has for Journey. He's just not good for THIS band as far as drumming goes.

Cain....good old Friga. I'd defer this question to Steve Perry. I'm sure he could sum it up. Face it, Friga has been artistically paralyzed for over 20 years. Not to mention he's as trustworthy as a scorpion. You fired the only person who ever made you relevant, Jon. Now, you're reduced to gloating about having a #1 hit on some Adult Contemporary chart....which has a listening audience of 17. Good job. Prideless asshole. That'll always be a Perry song, as it pertains to vocals.

In summation Laura, I'm NOT bored. I want Perry back or it's time to close shop. If I were 100% sure they'd give Jeff a fair shot, I'd be behind them all the way. That is NOT going to happen though. Just another ploy by Azoff to keep the fans interested in the event he ever gets his dream reunion. Completely unfair to Jeff and I hope he uses this opportunity SOLELY to gain new fans and then leaves Journey in the dust. They would do the same.

[heardonthestreet]

They've sucked since 98.
JSS- a great frontman working with a musically stagnant band. No fire or emotion in the music anymore. Jeff, should leave and seek a group of guys with more creativity. Journey is artistically dead.

Schon- Same playing for the better part of 20 years (as it pertains to Journey). Melodic, only at times, then a crammed 30 second solo.

Cain- Guy hasn't done shit since Frontiers. Shouldn't even be in the band. A "divider." Completely useless. A control freak who's running around like a dog with a 20 year old bone in his mouth. Should be fired immediately, if at all possible.

Castronovo- Great guy and a great drummer....just not in Journey. All of Journey's original material with HIM in the band has featured mediocre drumming, at best. The band needs Smith back. Thanks Deen, but you too are fired.

Valory- Ah, good old Ross. A great bassist and a good man. Ross is a keeper, always has been (hear that Perry). Needs Smith back, though. The two of them really layed it down.

That's my 2 minute review of Journe as we now know them.

PS Azoff should be fired too, but I figured that goes without saying. As of right NOW, Journey sucks. I'd rather go see Frontiers. They actually look like they love what they're doing. I can only say that about Jeff and Ross as far as Journey goes.

--- Well,with Perry out of the band,the landscape sure changed.Not sure if they sucked 100% considering that Arrival was a pretty good album.

---No fire and emotion anymore with JSS? Why do you say that?Since he joined,everyone has been excited,including the band.Wasn't this board all fired up about the wave of energy shot into the band,smiles on stage included?

---So Schon is playing the same?Well,hopefully he will always play like he does - that's the reason why he IS Neal Schon.That's his style.
He was so loved here,what happened?

---Castronovo?I believe he came extremely close to the classic Journey sound,voice wise.I wouldn't fire such a talent in a million years!

---Cain?He is very good,but maybe he has lost his Muse.My opinion is that Perry was definitely his inspiration.
Maybe not even Cain himself admits that,who knows?

---Azoff should have done more,agreed.But perhaps he wasn't inspired either...


Come on,SJ...."Journey sucks"?Why?Because they took the year off and the fans are bored?...Or maybe there are other reasons?

Whatever...

The "fire and emotion" with JSS is TBA. I, unlike others, do NOT count covers. If I did, I'd pay less money and go see Frontiers. All in all, they're closer to the original sound anyway.

Schon needs to come up with something new. Red 13 and Generations were perfect examples of him playing "filler' solos. Great solos indeed, just didn't go with the songs being played. He's lost his ability to "interact" with the singer. Neal simply uses touring as a means to whore around. A few more botox injections and his face will look like Saran Wrap

Castronovo "such a talent?" Based on what? Being a cover singer? Or is it the mediocre (at best) job he's done as an original drummer for Journey? He couldn't carry Smitty's sticks (not many can in all fairness). There are hundreds of drummers that could have done the job he has for Journey. He's just not good for THIS band as far as drumming goes.

Cain....good old Friga. I'd defer this question to Steve Perry. I'm sure he could sum it up. Face it, Friga has been artistically paralyzed for over 20 years. Not to mention he's as trustworthy as a scorpion. You fired the only person who ever made you relevant, Jon. Now, you're reduced to gloating about having a #1 hit on some Adult Contemporary chart....which has a listening audience of 17. Good job. Prideless asshole. That'll always be a Perry song, as it pertains to vocals.

In summation Laura, I'm NOT bored. I want Perry back or it's time to close shop. If I were 100% sure they'd give Jeff a fair shot, I'd be behind them all the way. That is NOT going to happen though. Just another ploy by Azoff to keep the fans interested in the event he ever gets his dream reunion. Completely unfair to Jeff and I hope he uses this opportunity SOLELY to gain new fans and then leaves Journey in the dust. They would do the same.

I know that you don't want to hear it from me St. John but I'll say it anyway.

EXACTLY!

[Saint John]

They've sucked since 98.
JSS- a great frontman working with a musically stagnant band. No fire or emotion in the music anymore. Jeff, should leave and seek a group of guys with more creativity. Journey is artistically dead.

Schon- Same playing for the better part of 20 years (as it pertains to Journey). Melodic, only at times, then a crammed 30 second solo.

Cain- Guy hasn't done shit since Frontiers. Shouldn't even be in the band. A "divider." Completely useless. A control freak who's running around like a dog with a 20 year old bone in his mouth. Should be fired immediately, if at all possible.

Castronovo- Great guy and a great drummer....just not in Journey. All of Journey's original material with HIM in the band has featured mediocre drumming, at best. The band needs Smith back. Thanks Deen, but you too are fired.

Valory- Ah, good old Ross. A great bassist and a good man. Ross is a keeper, always has been (hear that Perry). Needs Smith back, though. The two of them really layed it down.

That's my 2 minute review of Journe as we now know them.

PS Azoff should be fired too, but I figured that goes without saying. As of right NOW, Journey sucks. I'd rather go see Frontiers. They actually look like they love what they're doing. I can only say that about Jeff and Ross as far as Journey goes.

--- Well,with Perry out of the band,the landscape sure changed.Not sure if they sucked 100% considering that Arrival was a pretty good album.

---No fire and emotion anymore with JSS? Why do you say that?Since he joined,everyone has been excited,including the band.Wasn't this board all fired up about the wave of energy shot into the band,smiles on stage included?

---So Schon is playing the same?Well,hopefully he will always play like he does - that's the reason why he IS Neal Schon.That's his style.
He was so loved here,what happened?

---Castronovo?I believe he came extremely close to the classic Journey sound,voice wise.I wouldn't fire such a talent in a million years!

---Cain?He is very good,but maybe he has lost his Muse.My opinion is that Perry was definitely his inspiration.
Maybe not even Cain himself admits that,who knows?

---Azoff should have done more,agreed.But perhaps he wasn't inspired either...


Come on,SJ...."Journey sucks"?Why?Because they took the year off and the fans are bored?...Or maybe there are other reasons?

Whatever...

The "fire and emotion" with JSS is TBA. I, unlike others, do NOT count covers. If I did, I'd pay less money and go see Frontiers. All in all, they're closer to the original sound anyway.

Schon needs to come up with something new. Red 13 and Generations were perfect examples of him playing "filler' solos. Great solos indeed, just didn't go with the songs being played. He's lost his ability to "interact" with the singer. Neal simply uses touring as a means to whore around. A few more botox injections and his face will look like Saran Wrap

Castronovo "such a talent?" Based on what? Being a cover singer? Or is it the mediocre (at best) job he's done as an original drummer for Journey? He couldn't carry Smitty's sticks (not many can in all fairness). There are hundreds of drummers that could have done the job he has for Journey. He's just not good for THIS band as far as drumming goes.

Cain....good old Friga. I'd defer this question to Steve Perry. I'm sure he could sum it up. Face it, Friga has been artistically paralyzed for over 20 years. Not to mention he's as trustworthy as a scorpion. You fired the only person who ever made you relevant, Jon. Now, you're reduced to gloating about having a #1 hit on some Adult Contemporary chart....which has a listening audience of 17. Good job. Prideless asshole. That'll always be a Perry song, as it pertains to vocals.

In summation Laura, I'm NOT bored. I want Perry back or it's time to close shop. If I were 100% sure they'd give Jeff a fair shot, I'd be behind them all the way. That is NOT going to happen though. Just another ploy by Azoff to keep the fans interested in the event he ever gets his dream reunion. Completely unfair to Jeff and I hope he uses this opportunity SOLELY to gain new fans and then leaves Journey in the dust. They would do the same.

I know that you don't want to hear it from me St. John but I'll say it anyway.

EXACTLY!

It's an opinion I see as pretty accurate. Just cuz we agree doesn't mean I'll be jumping in the rack with you anytime soon.

[Red13JoePa]

You quoted that whole thing for that reply?

Andrew, send your bandwith bill to HOTSie.

[SteveForever]

I bet Azoff calls Perry weekly....and probably Steve Smith too. I would if I was him, nostalgia is where its at, can ya dig?

[frfksakes]

Forgive me, but did I miss something? why all the doom and gloom, all of the sudden? are you just impatient (as I am), or did something happen to make you think/know that nothing else was coming from Journey, period?
thanks for any info you can share.

[Saint John]

Forgive me, but did I miss something? why all the doom and gloom, all of the sudden? are you just impatient (as I am), or did something happen to make you think/know that nothing else was coming from Journey, period?
thanks for any info you can share.

No, nothing's changed. Azoff is still worth about much as 6 syphilis infested dicks. He shows moderate interest from time to time and has brainwashed senior members of the band into thinking he REALLY believes in the current lineup. Stupid fuckers.

[amaron]

I'd say the problem is the pandering to the fans...not the fans themselves.

The truth might be somewhere in the middle as always...


However,the bottom of the bottom line is "it's all 'bout the money".Once a band gets a taste of that,there's no turning back.They'll sell whatever the fans ask.

And destroy their lead singers in the process it seems.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I am not aware of any timetable in place at this time.

When Andrew says less, he usually knows more.

I detect a tumultuous overcast sky looms near.

[heardonthestreet]

They've sucked since 98.
JSS- a great frontman working with a musically stagnant band. No fire or emotion in the music anymore. Jeff, should leave and seek a group of guys with more creativity. Journey is artistically dead.

Schon- Same playing for the better part of 20 years (as it pertains to Journey). Melodic, only at times, then a crammed 30 second solo.

Cain- Guy hasn't done shit since Frontiers. Shouldn't even be in the band. A "divider." Completely useless. A control freak who's running around like a dog with a 20 year old bone in his mouth. Should be fired immediately, if at all possible.

Castronovo- Great guy and a great drummer....just not in Journey. All of Journey's original material with HIM in the band has featured mediocre drumming, at best. The band needs Smith back. Thanks Deen, but you too are fired.

Valory- Ah, good old Ross. A great bassist and a good man. Ross is a keeper, always has been (hear that Perry). Needs Smith back, though. The two of them really layed it down.

That's my 2 minute review of Journe as we now know them.

PS Azoff should be fired too, but I figured that goes without saying. As of right NOW, Journey sucks. I'd rather go see Frontiers. They actually look like they love what they're doing. I can only say that about Jeff and Ross as far as Journey goes.

--- Well,with Perry out of the band,the landscape sure changed.Not sure if they sucked 100% considering that Arrival was a pretty good album.

---No fire and emotion anymore with JSS? Why do you say that?Since he joined,everyone has been excited,including the band.Wasn't this board all fired up about the wave of energy shot into the band,smiles on stage included?

---So Schon is playing the same?Well,hopefully he will always play like he does - that's the reason why he IS Neal Schon.That's his style.
He was so loved here,what happened?

---Castronovo?I believe he came extremely close to the classic Journey sound,voice wise.I wouldn't fire such a talent in a million years!

---Cain?He is very good,but maybe he has lost his Muse.My opinion is that Perry was definitely his inspiration.
Maybe not even Cain himself admits that,who knows?

---Azoff should have done more,agreed.But perhaps he wasn't inspired either...


Come on,SJ...."Journey sucks"?Why?Because they took the year off and the fans are bored?...Or maybe there are other reasons?

Whatever...

The "fire and emotion" with JSS is TBA. I, unlike others, do NOT count covers. If I did, I'd pay less money and go see Frontiers. All in all, they're closer to the original sound anyway.

Schon needs to come up with something new. Red 13 and Generations were perfect examples of him playing "filler' solos. Great solos indeed, just didn't go with the songs being played. He's lost his ability to "interact" with the singer. Neal simply uses touring as a means to whore around. A few more botox injections and his face will look like Saran Wrap

Castronovo "such a talent?" Based on what? Being a cover singer? Or is it the mediocre (at best) job he's done as an original drummer for Journey? He couldn't carry Smitty's sticks (not many can in all fairness). There are hundreds of drummers that could have done the job he has for Journey. He's just not good for THIS band as far as drumming goes.

Cain....good old Friga. I'd defer this question to Steve Perry. I'm sure he could sum it up. Face it, Friga has been artistically paralyzed for over 20 years. Not to mention he's as trustworthy as a scorpion. You fired the only person who ever made you relevant, Jon. Now, you're reduced to gloating about having a #1 hit on some Adult Contemporary chart....which has a listening audience of 17. Good job. Prideless asshole. That'll always be a Perry song, as it pertains to vocals.

In summation Laura, I'm NOT bored. I want Perry back or it's time to close shop. If I were 100% sure they'd give Jeff a fair shot, I'd be behind them all the way. That is NOT going to happen though. Just another ploy by Azoff to keep the fans interested in the event he ever gets his dream reunion. Completely unfair to Jeff and I hope he uses this opportunity SOLELY to gain new fans and then leaves Journey in the dust. They would do the same.

I know that you don't want to hear it from me St. John but I'll say it anyway.

EXACTLY!

It's an opinion I see as pretty accurate. Just cuz we agree doesn't mean I'll be jumping in the rack with you anytime soon.

Not to worry. I know that you have already been warned.

[*Laura]

Schon needs to come up with something new. Red 13 and Generations were perfect examples of him playing "filler' solos. Great solos indeed, just didn't go with the songs being played. He's lost his ability to "interact" with the singer.

Red 13 was experimental,IMO...Not an usual Journey product,so no wonder it wasn't fan-friendly.Generations was an experiment too,a rushed one,if you will...Has some good moments,tho.

As for Neal's playing on those,well,when you don't really believe in what you're doing...The "interaction" with the singer falls in the same category.
He didn't "feel" the voice anymore.Nuff said.

Castronovo "such a talent?" Based on what? Being a cover singer? Or is it the mediocre (at best) job he's done as an original drummer for Journey? He couldn't carry Smitty's sticks (not many can in all fairness). There are hundreds of drummers that could have done the job he has for Journey. He's just not good for THIS band as far as drumming goes.

You kidding,right?Castronovo is not a cover singer.He was asked to sing some of the Journey classics because he CAN,and I might add,he's done a hell of a job.For me DC is one of the best drummers in the world and it was the best choice for Journey.Mediocre was Baird in 1987.

Come on,leave Smitty out,we are not comparing them. Smitty helped building Journey,Castro helped keeping the machinery running.

Cain....good old Friga. I'd defer this question to Steve Perry. I'm sure he could sum it up. Face it, Friga has been artistically paralyzed for over 20 years. Not to mention he's as trustworthy as a scorpion. You fired the only person who ever made you relevant, Jon. Now, you're reduced to gloating about having a #1 hit on some Adult Contemporary chart....which has a listening audience of 17. Good job. Prideless asshole. That'll always be a Perry song, as it pertains to vocals.

Cain's paralysis must be a result of losing his Muse,like I said.I doubt he will ever be able to artistically bond with someone as he did with Perry.They produced magic together.
Seriously,I don't blame him for "drying" up.Also,I'm not mad that he took "Faithfully" and re-arranged it,it was his right.
The fact that the new version is not liked by fans,comes to prove what we both believe:that will always be Perry's song.Any attempt of changing that is useless,but if Cain wanted to do it,like I said,it was his right.

A "scorpion"?Perhaps he is trying to defend himself or what he believes in.He must have serious reasons to "sting".

In summation Laura, I'm NOT bored. I want Perry back or it's time to close shop. If I were 100% sure they'd give Jeff a fair shot, I'd be behind them all the way. That is NOT going to happen though. Just another ploy by Azoff to keep the fans interested in the event he ever gets his dream reunion. Completely unfair to Jeff and I hope he uses this opportunity SOLELY to gain new fans and then leaves Journey in the dust. They would do the same.

Jeff was really brave in taking this job in Journey.It was also his dream and he fulfilled it.
If the dream is going to end before it should,Jeff will certainly have a career ahead of him.He was a great singer before Journey and he will be the same after Journey.
The ones who would have the real problem would be the Band.

If Azoff dreams about a reunion,like you say,then he's dreaming about the $$$$$.
This reunion will never happen because Azoff wants it,but because ..well,this time it's up to Mr.Perry.

"Nobody puts Baby in the corner". (sorry,couldn't help it)

The "fire and emotion" with JSS is TBA.

"TBA"? Sorry,SJ...What's that?

[Rockindeano]

Psycho

[Saint John]

For me DC is one of the best drummers in the world and it was the best choice for Journey.


Simply a ridiculous statement. Name ONE song he's done with Journey that has great drumwork that GOES with the song? Minus Perry you've had Ross laying down great bass lines, Cain doing his usual thing, Castronovo banging away like heck and Schon shredding, BUT when you put it all together, it has simply amounted to NOTHING. CHEMISTRY is king and this band has lost THAT. Perry was the polypeptide bond that kept everything together. He's gone and so is their chemistry. In the future, look for Azoff to either get the big reunion, Jeff to be alotted the BARE necessities to continue the nostalgia tours or JSS to wisen up and abandon this sinking wreck. Those are the only 3 possibilities I see. Laura, I know you mean well, but you're simply seeing things in a utopic world. Get out of Wonderland, Alice.

[Rockindeano]

SJ, easy there big guy.

I agree Deen is not as great as everyone here says, but he is a much better drummer than Ross is a bass player. No offense, just truth.

I do agree with the over fawning of Deen. It's sickening.

Laura needs to get the hell out of Utopia world is right. Check yourself Cucu.

[styxman]

Good read all this, I want to get in on the action, when I've digested all the pages and thrown them back up.....

Journey died years ago, they're held together now by the ambition of one man, and he needs to get the exposure of one album under his belt and fuck off as Journey will just hold him back. Then make way for a reunion, which we'll all probably sit back and say, why did they do that and then they should lock the door and throw away the key.

[Red13JoePa]

Yep, the Deen vocal fawning is big-time over.

Yes, I like his voice a lot and want to hear a song-or-2 from him per concert and album.

But come on already.


As far as drumming, though, he is FANTASTIC and I think the panting and shrieking about his voice does a disservice to how great he is as a drummer.

Juannie, listen to his whole beat on The Place In Your Heart or Higher Place. Unbelievable.

[*Laura]

Simply a ridiculous statement. Name ONE song he's done with Journey that has great drumwork that GOES with the song? Minus Perry you've had Ross laying down great bass lines, Cain doing his usual thing, Castronovo banging away like heck and Schon shredding, BUT when you put it all together, it has simply amounted to NOTHING. CHEMISTRY is king and this band has lost THAT. Perry was the polypeptide bond that kept everything together. He's gone and so is their chemistry. In the future, look for Azoff to either get the big reunion, Jeff to be alotted the BARE necessities to continue the nostalgia tours or JSS to wisen up and abandon this sinking wreck. Those are the only 3 possibilities I see. Laura, I know you mean well, but you're simply seeing things in a utopic world. Get out of Wonderland, Alice.

I was talking abour Castronovo as a musician,not in regards of his chemistry with the band.As a drummer he is brilliant.
The chemistry was gone long time ago,come on,we both know it.
2 different things we're talking about.

Me in Wonderland? No,you are there,SJ.The Reunion is a Wonderland event.I am much more realistic,trust me.

"Alice" could be your new nic...

[Wheels Of Fyre]

For me DC is one of the best drummers in the world and it was the best choice for Journey.


Simply a ridiculous statement. Name ONE song he's done with Journey that has great drumwork that GOES with the song? Minus Perry you've had Ross laying down great bass lines, Cain doing his usual thing, Castronovo banging away like heck and Schon shredding, BUT when you put it all together, it has simply amounted to NOTHING. CHEMISTRY is king and this band has lost THAT. Perry was the polypeptide bond that kept everything together. He's gone and so is their chemistry. In the future, look for Azoff to either get the big reunion, Jeff to be alotted the BARE necessities to continue the nostalgia tours or JSS to wisen up and abandon this sinking wreck. Those are the only 3 possibilities I see. Laura, I know you mean well, but you're simply seeing things in a utopic world. Get out of Wonderland, Alice.

Reunion with Perry is Wonderland, Alice.

There was a time when Neal ORCHESTRATED. When the music was DYNAMIC. I've always said that orchestrating was Neal's trademark and genius.

[NealIsGod]

Damn, why is everyone so whiny today? Just compare Journey's situation to VH and you'll feel better.

[styxman]

I couldn't give a flying fuck anymore about Journey, I've a hardon for Cronin now, Christ that guy can move on stage. Time to start an REO board Drew and close this one down, until Perry gets his act together.

[Rockindeano]

I couldn't give a flying fuck anymore about Journey, I've a hardon for Cronin now, Christ that guy can move on stage. Time to start an REO board Drew and close this one down, until Perry gets his act together.

Hardon for Cronin?



That takes balls to say dude.

[styxman]

I'll say it again dude

HARDON FOR CRONIN

I've massive balls

[Rockindeano]

That guy is anything but masculine and his voice sounds like dripping water off a rusted tin roof. If I can get drunk enough, I can do a dead spot impression of KC...might record it and upload it.

[styxman]

That guy is anything but masculine and his voice sounds like dripping water off a rusted tin roof. If I can get drunk enough, I can do a dead spot on of KC...might record it and upload it.

But unlike Journey and it's merry band of fuck ups, he's havin' a good time. Okay I'll retract I have a hardon for Tommy Shaw then