Kevin Chalfant Journey tribute cd. What a voice!!

[McNeil]

I heard Kevin sing DSB a few weeks back and he struggled mightily. Yes, he has a good voice, but he too would have blown his voice out. His voice is better than Deen's, but not by much. I've heard the CD and think it's a touch above mediocre, close to good. Kevin is a great performer and artist but the Journey catalog is clearly out of his league.

Wrong.... he sounds great here!

[JrnyScarab]

I heard Kevin sing DSB a few weeks back and he struggled mightily. Yes, he has a good voice, but he too would have blown his voice out. His voice is better than Deen's, but not by much. I've heard the CD and think it's a touch above mediocre, close to good. Kevin is a great performer and artist but the Journey catalog is clearly out of his league.

I definately say it's a close call between him and Dean....I think it's just a bit diferent and fresh since it's new......

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Jeremey is singing in the original key and so is Deen. On the Chalfant tribute CD, the songs are all tuned down. Why mess with this if he is so good. I think i've heard an old bootleg that he sang in the original key. Don't know if he could cut it today I'm sorry to say. Nice voice though.

Ed

[Saint John]

I heard Kevin sing DSB a few weeks back and he struggled mightily. Yes, he has a good voice, but he too would have blown his voice out. His voice is better than Deen's, but not by much. I've heard the CD and think it's a touch above mediocre, close to good. Kevin is a great performer and artist but the Journey catalog is clearly out of his league.

I definately say it's a close call between him and Dean....I think it's just a bit diferent and fresh since it's new......

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Jeremey is singing in the original key and so is Deen. On the Chalfant tribute CD, the songs are all tuned down. Why mess with this if he is so good. I think i've heard an old bootleg that he sang in the original key. Don't know if he could cut it today I'm sorry to say. Nice voice though.

Ed

Chalfant has lost range over the last 10-12 years. He no longer has what it takes to really do the catalog justice. I heard him sing DSB live and while he did a good job, I've certainly heard better.

[squirt1]

KC is selling something. It is not a tribute. He should write new music and move on with WITS. Perry already sewed up the Journey gig ,even if he is not singing. The word Journey will ALWAYS be associated with Perry ,because that is when there was radio airplay, huge hits and 2,000,000 willing to pay to see them on tour.

[Monker]

Strange how we all hear things differently. To me Kevin sounds like he's trying to prove he could be Perry(which he can't), while Jeremey is singing the songs with the same feeling as Perry but not imitating.

There is a Frontiers website, sorry I don't have the link right now but it may be on one of J's posts. You may be able to find some original compositions and studio recordings there.

Oh, please, the clip that was posted is a Perry impersonator. He makes his $'s by coming as close to Perry's vocals as possible. He's not singing the songs with the same feeling as Perry. He's singing them with the idea of chaneling Perry's voice, his inflections, and hoping the audience closing their eyes and imagine Perry is singing.

Journey would be nuts to hire Jeremy, or Hugo, or anyone else who goes out of their way to sound exactly like Perry....and has made a living out of it. That would make the band look silly.

Jeremy, and Hugo, have great voices...and I would even say Jeremy - based on that clip - has a better voice then Hugo. However, hiring somebody who has gone out of their way to sound (and in Hugo's case, look) EXACTLY like Perry is plain stupid. It was stupid back when Perry left, or was fired, from the band...and it is stupid today.

Chalfant, on the other hand, doesn't NEED to do this. Whether or not he ever sings with Journey is irrelevant. In fact, I wouldn't wish that curse upon hin. If you don't like Chalfant, fine...your loss. He did this CD for HIS fans...not the Journey fans who over-analyze every note when somebody - anybody - covers a Journey song.

[Monker]

And, my problem with Hugo is following Open Skyz, which is a good CD BTW, it seems everything he did revolved around looking and sounding like Perry. If he was more then that, he should have let that show through more. Nowadays, that is what he is known for - a Perry clone.

Suz,

I'm one of the folks that was suggesting Hugo for similar reasons to The Fly's take on Kevin (which I also agree with). He's a known quantity and has proven he can write brilliant music as well. Here's a clip of Hugo when he was doing Valentine. Its a bit harder than Journey but should give you an idea of what he can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfmeOdxNJbU

L8r,

Aaron

Here ya go. LIVE at a BAR.....no studio, no Pro Tools no second chances. Straight LIVE. Notice how much more power he has. Chalfant can't carry his mic stand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP5DaxuJ ... ed&search=

Sounds great! But I don't think he sings with the same power as Kevin. Either one would be great. But can Jeremey write and has he ever recorded in the studio? Kevin sounds like Journey but without sounding like "Perry Clone" and is a proven great song writer. I'd still pick Kevin. BUt Jeremey is a very good singer IMO.

Is Jeff's job up for grabs or something?
Has his time in the revolving door finished already?

I heard talk on here [when I joined] about someone called Hugo.
I never heard his voice, so, as we are castingthe lead in the Journey version of "Rock Star" on here today, anyone got any clips of his voice, please?

[Saint John]

Strange how we all hear things differently. To me Kevin sounds like he's trying to prove he could be Perry(which he can't), while Jeremey is singing the songs with the same feeling as Perry but not imitating.

There is a Frontiers website, sorry I don't have the link right now but it may be on one of J's posts. You may be able to find some original compositions and studio recordings there.

Oh, please, the clip that was posted is a Perry impersonator. He makes his $'s by coming as close to Perry's vocals as possible. He's not singing the songs with the same feeling as Perry. He's singing them with the idea of chaneling Perry's voice, his inflections, and hoping the audience closing their eyes and imagine Perry is singing.

Journey would be nuts to hire Jeremy, or Hugo, or anyone else who goes out of their way to sound exactly like Perry....and has made a living out of it. That would make the band look silly.

Jeremy, and Hugo, have great voices...and I would even say Jeremy - based on that clip - has a better voice then Hugo. However, hiring somebody who has gone out of their way to sound (and in Hugo's case, look) EXACTLY like Perry is plain stupid. It was stupid back when Perry left, or was fired, from the band...and it is stupid today.

Chalfant, on the other hand, doesn't NEED to do this. Whether or not he ever sings with Journey is irrelevant. In fact, I wouldn't wish that curse upon hin. If you don't like Chalfant, fine...your loss. He did this CD for HIS fans...not the Journey fans who over-analyze every note when somebody - anybody - covers a Journey song.

At least have some facts before you open your cum crusted mouth. Jeremey has NOT "made a living" impersonating Perry. Frontiers plays a few gigs a month, hardly enough to feed Perry's cat, let alone a family. Jeremey "has gone out of his way to sound like Perry" because he plays in a tribute band...that's what they're SUPPOSED to do, asshole. They're replicating Journey's sound as best they can in order to give those they play for a trip down memory lane. I love good tribute bands. They honor and preserve music that is special to me, but MORE importantly, to THEM. And for YOU to say that anyone "over-analyzes" anything is just ridiculous. Speaking of "looking silly," post your picture. I need a good laugh.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Journey would be nuts to hire Jeremy, or Hugo, or anyone else who goes out of their way to sound exactly like Perry....and has made a living out of it. That would make the band look silly.

I truly appreciate SA's effort but hiring him was such a bad idea. Another Steve whose last name rhymes with Perry. Long, dark hair and was out of music working maintenance for The Gap - similar to SP's stage style/voice and story of being out of music working on a poultry farm.

Either those were fantastic coincidences or some supernatural effort to evoke magic from the past.

Regardless, it made them look silly. And what a terrible ending, too.

I've never been able to understand the desire to bring someone in who sounds "just like Perry". Can you imagine if Van Halen brought in someone that sounded just like DLR? How ridiculous would they have been? Didn't JOURNEY see VH's success? What about Survivor bringing in Jimi? AC/DC with BJ? The Commodores with Lionel Richie? (that one will make eye roll but...) How long of a list do I need to make here? Did anyone in the JOURNEY camp consider HISTORY for God's sake? All they had to do was look at their own history when they brought in SP!!! Good God! I know I'm in the minority on this but I'm in the camp that begged and pleaded (and still do) for JOURNEY to TURN THE CORNER.

I think when it's time to bring in a new vocalist then that's time to MOVE IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. Move in the direction of the new vocalist's strengths. The fact that JOURNEY never did this with SA made me conclude that he either had no strengths/talent OR that they simply wanted to ride the gravy train of the past. What direction will they go with JSS? Will they give him the reign or will they squander his talent?

[Rick]

Oh, please, the clip that was posted is a Perry impersonator. He makes his $'s by coming as close to Perry's vocals as possible. He's not singing the songs with the same feeling as Perry. He's singing them with the idea of chaneling Perry's voice, his inflections, and hoping the audience closing their eyes and imagine Perry is singing.

Journey would be nuts to hire Jeremy, or Hugo, or anyone else who goes out of their way to sound exactly like Perry....and has made a living out of it. That would make the band look silly.

Jeremy, and Hugo, have great voices...and I would even say Jeremy - based on that clip - has a better voice then Hugo. However, hiring somebody who has gone out of their way to sound (and in Hugo's case, look) EXACTLY like Perry is plain stupid. It was stupid back when Perry left, or was fired, from the band...and it is stupid today.

Chalfant, on the other hand, doesn't NEED to do this. Whether or not he ever sings with Journey is irrelevant. In fact, I wouldn't wish that curse upon hin. If you don't like Chalfant, fine...your loss. He did this CD for HIS fans...not the Journey fans who over-analyze every note when somebody - anybody - covers a Journey song.

Oops, discussion over, Monker's here and cleared it all up. Thanks Monker for your always higher than thou knowledge on the subject. Us dumbasses have been battling like crazy over this. It's an honor that you have come to show us the light.

[chf34jmac]

Well in fairness to the choice to sound like Perry or what ever. When people expect the classics to sound a certain way when they hear them live you really have no option but to get someone who sounds similar. It wouldn't make much sense to have a guy that sounds like Ozzy trying to sing Open Arms and expect fans to buy into it.

[Monker]

Frontiers plays a few gigs a month, hardly enough to feed Perry's cat, let alone a family.

I don't care if he only does it one time a year. He is a Perry impersonator. That's the bottom line.

Jeremey "has gone out of his way to sound like Perry" because he plays in a tribute band...that's what they're SUPPOSED to do, asshole.

Gee, go ahead and repeat what I said as if you said it yourself. My point is that he is in a tribute band and therefore he is a Perry impersonator, doing his best to sound like Perry...and he is NOT adding his own emotional twist to these songs. He's copying PERRY's.

They're replicating Journey's sound as best they can in order to give those they play for a trip down memory lane. I love good tribute bands. They honor and preserve music that is special to me, but MORE importantly, to THEM.

And, he, they, whatever, can do that all they want. But, to say that an impersonator should be in Journey, or imply that they are doing anythng more then just copying Perry's vocals note for note, and inflection for inflection, and that an impersonator would be a better fit for the band then Augeri, Chalfant, or JSS is plain silly.

Talk about making Journey into a laughing stock and a joke? Give me a break.

And for YOU to say that anyone "over-analyzes" anything is just ridiculous.

Of course I do that...that's me. Since I have so much experience doing it, I can easily recognize when somebody else is doing the same.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

They're replicating Journey's sound as best they can in order to give those they play for a trip down memory lane. I love good tribute bands. They honor and preserve music that is special to me, but MORE importantly, to THEM.

I agree with that. That's EXACTLY what a tribute band is supposed to do however when the REAL band purposely tries to impersonate itself - that's just weird. And believe me - I know weird. I'm not only a member but I'm the president of that club.

It seems to me that JOURNEY hired SA purely to "fool" people. They lip synched to fool people, too. I'm tired of being played.

If they don't come out with something original with JSS then I may just have to turn in my JOURNEY Force card.

JOURNEY's strength has been the ability to back and launch a vocalist. This has been clear in their earliest concept of playing studio support as The Golden Gate Rhythm Section to their work with SP and Michael Bolton. They need to be the rockets in JSS's pockets now. I don't know if they've got any fuel left let alone an afterburner.

[Rick]

Frontiers plays a few gigs a month, hardly enough to feed Perry's cat, let alone a family.

I don't care if he only does it one time a year. He is a Perry impersonator. That's the bottom line.

Jeremey "has gone out of his way to sound like Perry" because he plays in a tribute band...that's what they're SUPPOSED to do, asshole.

Gee, go ahead and repeat what I said as if you said it yourself. My point is that he is in a tribute band and therefore he is a Perry impersonator, doing his best to sound like Perry...and he is NOT adding his own emotional twist to these songs. He's copying PERRY's.

They're replicating Journey's sound as best they can in order to give those they play for a trip down memory lane. I love good tribute bands. They honor and preserve music that is special to me, but MORE importantly, to THEM.

And, he, they, whatever, can do that all they want. But, to say that an impersonator should be in Journey, or imply that they are doing anythng more then just copying Perry's vocals note for note, and inflection for inflection, and that an impersonator would be a better fit for the band then Augeri, Chalfant, or JSS is plain silly.

Talk about making Journey into a laughing stock and a joke? Give me a break.

And for YOU to say that anyone "over-analyzes" anything is just ridiculous.

Of course I do that...that's me. Since I have so much experience doing it, I can easily recognize when somebody else is doing the same.

Wow, again, thanks for leading us out of the dark there Britt. This message board would be nothing without you. It damn near failed while you were away.

[Monker]

I truly appreciate SA's effort but hiring him was such a bad idea. Another Steve whose last name rhymes with Perry. Long, dark hair and was out of music working maintenance for The Gap - similar to SP's stage style/voice and story of being out of music working on a poultry farm.

Either those were fantastic coincidences or some supernatural effort to evoke magic from the past.

What a bunch of untruths and exageratins.

His name - who cares?
Their hair looked NOTHING alike, even when Perry DID have a 'perm'>
GAP/Turkey farm - Perry was basicaly a financial disaster. Augeri was making a living in the same way that many in this forum are doing today.

They are not 'conincidences'...they are not even comparable circumstances.

Regardless, it made them look silly. And what a terrible ending, too.

Ten years of touring, two full albums, and EP, a DVD. That's not silly - it's more then most bands of Journey's era have done.

What about Survivor bringing in Jimi?

I heard an interview with Survivor sometime after Vital Signs came out. Peterick basicaly said they wanted to bring in someone who brought in something new but would not change the traditional Survivor sound.

That is EXACTLY what Journey wanted to do with Augeri.

And, that is all I have to say about this old and tired discussion.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Well in fairness to the choice to sound like Perry or what ever. When people expect the classics to sound a certain way when they hear them live you really have no option but to get someone who sounds similar. It wouldn't make much sense to have a guy that sounds like Ozzy trying to sing Open Arms and expect fans to buy into it.

Personally I expect to hear ORIGINALITY. Not a band trying to sound like a former version of itself. Knowing that SP is gone is enough to tell me to expect something different. I do NOT want to hear an impersonator hold the JOURNEY mic.

I would've LOVED to hear Michael Bolton sing Lights, LTS, Open Arms - any and all of it. At the time he played with NS and JC it was rumored that JOURNEY might continue with him but it never happened. All they'd have to do is change up the song arrangements to suit his voice. Oh, well. As it turned out MB continued solo as his career was finally launched by his working with NS and JC. Those tracks of of his The Hunger album hint of what JOURNEY could've sounded like with him. I think that sound was pertty original.

I think it's all abuot being original. If JOURNEY's not willing to do that anymore than why bother?

[Monker]

oops

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I truly appreciate SA's effort but hiring him was such a bad idea. Another Steve whose last name rhymes with Perry. Long, dark hair and was out of music working maintenance for The Gap - similar to SP's stage style/voice and story of being out of music working on a poultry farm.

Either those were fantastic coincidences or some supernatural effort to evoke magic from the past.

What a bunch of untruths and exageratins.

His name - who cares?
Their hair looked NOTHING alike, even when Perry DID have a 'perm'>
GAP/Turkey farm - Perry was basicaly a financial disaster. Augeri was making a living in the same way that many in this forum are doing today.

They are not 'conincidences'...they are not even comparable circumstances.

The fact that there are people to this day who still think SP is with JOURNEY is evidence of the good job JOURNEY did fooling the general public.

You're clearly arguing for the pure sake of arguing. That's truly annoying.

And, that is all I have to say about this old and tired discussion.

That's evidence of God right there - Monker has silenced himself!

[Monker]

It damn near failed while you were away.

I never left. Well, OK, maybe for 12hrs or so after Andrew kicked me off.

I'm just NOT interested in talking about hockey and Paris Hilton.

[whocares]

The Hunger was alright, and mostly because the boys were on the CD in the first place. MB had ROCKING stuff on his Debut Solo CD, that I dare say is much better suited for what Journey and MB could have been. But, thankfully it never went any further than one or two fo the boys playing with him on Talk shows and Jon's bro playing drums for him on tour(s).

As for KC, I thought the stuff from the new CD was ok, but as stated already, it's just someone else trying to sound too much like Perry, and not singing the songs of someone being paid tribute to. I'd much rather hear someone who sings a different style of music altogether, paying tribute to the band, than someone who had (HAS?) the desire to be the lead singer fo the band whose songs he's recording and releasing now.

[Monker]

The fact that there are people to this day who still think SP is with JOURNEY is evidence of the good job JOURNEY did fooling the general public.

Or, it's evidence of how ignorant and foolish the 'general public' is.

You're clearly arguing for the pure sake of arguing. That's truly annoying.

No. I just believe that some of the things being said in this thread are flat out WRONG...What you say at the top of this post is an example.

[larryfromnextdoor]

It damn near failed while you were away.

I never left. Well, OK, maybe for 12hrs or so after Andrew kicked me off.

I'm just NOT interested in talking about hockey and Paris Hilton.

you didnt miss anything then...i guess you did miss the pizza and rootbeer thread..

[Rick]

I never left. Well, OK, maybe for 12hrs or so after Andrew kicked me off.

And you therefore are the benefactor of one very generous man.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

The Hunger was alright, and mostly because the boys were on the CD in the first place. MB had ROCKING stuff on his Debut Solo CD, that I dare say is much better suited for what Journey and MB could have been. But, thankfully it never went any further than one or two fo the boys playing with him on Talk shows and Jon's bro playing drums for him on tour(s).

As for KC, I thought the stuff from the new CD was ok, but as stated already, it's just someone else trying to sound too much like Perry, and not singing the songs of someone being paid tribute to. I'd much rather hear someone who sings a different style of music altogether, paying tribute to the band, than someone who had (HAS?) the desire to be the lead singer fo the band whose songs he's recording and releasing now.

The Hunger was/is SOLID and for exactly the reason you stated about the boys contributing to it. I'll never forget the quote from Neal about Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - that it was a killer song mainly because of his killer solo. Neal has GOT to get beack to that - being the conductor - orchestratnig the songs - highlighting them with his licks. Much like what Saint John recently punctuated in another thread.

I think had they gone on with MB then a reunion with SP in 1996 would've had much more impact and resulted in a much more focused effort than TBF.

I agree with your ear on the other point, though regarding the karaoke versions that KC has put out. Trying to sound like the original is NOT paying tribute as I understand tribute to be. You pay tribute by performing in your own style. I suppose people could argue that JOURNEY IS KC's style but it just doesn't come across that way.

[whocares]

Radio Stations and Mgmnt. are partly to blame for the Publics un-awareness of who the lead singer of ANY band is anymore. When you can hear a commercial on the Radio for an upcoming concert, and Perry is the voice that you hear, you may think that Perry is in fact still or again, with them.

Here's an example. Elvin(?) Bishop is coming to town soon with George Thoroughgood(sp?) What's the ONLY song that most people are aware of by this guy and the band? Quick, name it! Yeah, taht's right, Fooled around and fell in love, and who is the lead singer on that song? Mickey Thomas from Starship. I'm sure people fully expect that He'll be singing with them at this concert.

Of course I've attended at least one concert in the last few years where I was under the impression that when the ticket said "LIVE", it was going to actually and totally be "live", but apparently it wasn't totally live after all. I got a three hour thing with a few songs actually sung live (by other people) and a free CD that wasn't all that great out of it. And attitude from a drunk woman who insisted on dancing with me, despite the fact that my Wife was there with me.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

The fact that there are people to this day who still think SP is with JOURNEY is evidence of the good job JOURNEY did fooling the general public.

Or, it's evidence of how ignorant and foolish the 'general public' is.

You're clearly arguing for the pure sake of arguing. That's truly annoying.

No. I just believe that some of the things being said in this thread are flat out WRONG...What you say at the top of this post is an example.

???

What's "wrong" with what I said? I PERSONALLY know people who thought SP was in JOURNEY until I cleared it up for them (being the nice guy and devout JOURNEY fan that I am). I wouldn't call them ignorant or foolish.

I know LOTS of people that said BEGINNING IN 1998 that SA came across to them as a CLONE. That he looked and sang "just like Perry" and they thought it was HACK.

Those are opinions of people that I know personally and therefore support my statements as being true. Just because you say I'm wrong doesn't make me so. You're not THAT powerful.

[Monker]

Here's an example. Elvin(?) Bishop is coming to town soon with George Thoroughgood(sp?) What's the ONLY song that most people are aware of by this guy and the band? Quick, name it! Yeah, taht's right, Fooled around and fell in love, and who is the lead singer on that song? Mickey Thomas from Starship. I'm sure people fully expect that He'll be singing with them at this concert.

I disagree...

Most people will be saying, "Who the hell is Elvin Bishop? Oh, well, at least that 'Bad to the Bone' guy is there."

You are talking about 20-30yr old songs. People don't care like they did in 1985. They are just there for the memories.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Oops, discussion over, Monker's here and cleared it all up. Thanks Monker for your always higher than thou knowledge on the subject. Us dumbasses have been battling like crazy over this. It's an honor that you have come to show us the light.

Please speak for yourself. I happen to be a smartass.

[Monker]

What's "wrong" with what I said? I PERSONALLY know people who thought SP was in JOURNEY until I cleared it up for them (being the nice guy and devout JOURNEY fan that I am). I wouldn't call them ignorant or foolish.

There is a difference between someone you know being ignorant and the band putting forth an effort to 'fool' them into believing as they did.

I know LOTS of people that said BEGINNING IN 1998 that SA came across to them as a CLONE. That he looked and sang "just like Perry" and they thought it was HACK.

So what? If that's their opinion, I couldn't care less. At least Augeri wasn't in a tribute band, or going about as Hugo was/is.

Those are opinions of people that I know personally and therefore support my statements as being true.

How does John Doe believing Perry is in the band equate to evidence that the band was trying to fool him? That is a leap of faith - not supported by ANY evidence.

[whocares]

Here's an example. Elvin(?) Bishop is coming to town soon with George Thoroughgood(sp?) What's the ONLY song that most people are aware of by this guy and the band? Quick, name it! Yeah, taht's right, Fooled around and fell in love, and who is the lead singer on that song? Mickey Thomas from Starship. I'm sure people fully expect that He'll be singing with them at this concert.

I disagree...

Most people will be saying, "Who the hell is Elvin Bishop? Oh, well, at least that 'Bad to the Bone' guy is there."

You are talking about 20-30yr old songs. People don't care like they did in 1985. They are just there for the memories.

of course you do, you're MONKER, GOD I mean. it's not a perfect night, until you've told everyone you disagree with them.

You're not as smart as you think you are Monker. At least I have enough humility to know and admit I'm not the smartest one in class. You just can't ever find the time to say, same about yourself. You act like you know what EVERYONE else is thinking, when you arne't even clsoe most of the time. This isn't 1985, but people DO still care, probably even more than in 1985. I blame the fact that radio is playing a commercial with a voice from the bands past, and you say people don't give a shit. Right on.

[stevew2]

Frontiers plays a few gigs a month, hardly enough to feed Perry's cat, let alone a family.

I don't care if he only does it one time a year. He is a Perry impersonator. That's the bottom line.

Jeremey "has gone out of his way to sound like Perry" because he plays in a tribute band...that's what they're SUPPOSED to do, asshole.

Gee, go ahead and repeat what I said as if you said it yourself. My point is that he is in a tribute band and therefore he is a Perry impersonator, doing his best to sound like Perry...and he is NOT adding his own emotional twist to these songs. He's copying PERRY's.

They're replicating Journey's sound as best they can in order to give those they play for a trip down memory lane. I love good tribute bands. They honor and preserve music that is special to me, but MORE importantly, to THEM.

And, he, they, whatever, can do that all they want. But, to say that an impersonator should be in Journey, or imply that they are doing anythng more then just copying Perry's vocals note for note, and inflection for inflection, and that an impersonator would be a better fit for the band then Augeri, Chalfant, or JSS is plain silly.

Talk about making Journey into a laughing stock and a joke? Give me a break.

And for YOU to say that anyone "over-analyzes" anything is just ridiculous.

Of course I do that...that's me. Since I have so much experience doing it, I can easily recognize when somebody else is doing the same.

Jeremey does his emotional "twists" to evey song, and also sounds like Perry. That is a good thing, and I havent seen many clips here lately that can say that,or sound as good. If you have any, post them ,otherwise. I just hear talk, lets hear it .. There is no sense putting down good music