Lawrence Gowan Is Infinite Times Better Then Dennis DeYoung

by **Everett** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:05 pm

Got that off my chest.

:: Waiting For Severe Backlash::

by **DarwinNebraska** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:22 pm

Death to infidels.

by **styxfansite** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:32 pm

Thenightbull wrote:Got that off my chest.

:: Waiting For Severe Backlash::

Dennis is more popular in canada, does that mean Larry is more popular in Chicago

That is a serious question. Why does Dennis out sale a canadian ran styx in canada, anyone?

by **GrandIllusionist725** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:57 pm

Gowan and DeYoung argument, oughta get good.

Whats your take Froy?

by **froy** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:25 pm

GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Gowan and DeYoung argument, oughta get good.

Whats your take Froy?

Not even worth the effort

by **Andrew** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:41 pm

froy wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Gowan and DeYoung argument, oughta get good.

Whats your take Froy?

Not even worth the effort

LOL

I love both. I prefer Dennis in Styx, but Gowan does a great job. Overall I prefer Gowan as a solo artist - I swear by his solo albums - just magic.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:39 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Gowan and DeYoung argument, oughta get good.

Whats your take Froy?

Not even worth the effort

LOL

I love both. I prefer Dennis in Styx, but Gowan does a great job. Overall I prefer Gowan as a solo artist - I swear by his solo albums - just magic.

HAve to agree with boss here. expect I only have one solo Gowan cd, and it is ok-ERIC

by **Skates** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:29 pm

Ok? Try great. I think that he's an asset to Styx. With his multiple awards and award nominations from Canada, he's a plus to the band. He brings a different energy to the stage, and it's an energy that Styx needs.

by **piecesofeight** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 pm

Skates wrote:Ok? Try great. I think that he's an asset to Styx. With his multiple awards and award nominations from Canada, he's a plus to the band. He brings a different energy to the stage, and it's an energy that Styx needs.

Yep, chipmunks have lots of energy. If I want to see energy, I will go to the woods. If I want to hear how Styx should sound, I will go see DDY.

by **DarwinNebraska** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:42 pm

He can't be all that much of an asset if he's constantly referred to as "the keyboard player in Styx".

by **Bearded Clam** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:43 pm

Personally, I think Styx without Dennis is not Styx. With that being said, I also think Larry is the best part of the show lately. I'm not trying to say that he is a good replacement for Dennis, but in my mind, he is a great entertainer. I mean let's face it, how many concerts over the past 11 years have been EXACTLY the same, the same introductions before each song, the same choreography, the same set list. I think Larry is a welcome change. But in my opinion, he is no replacement for Dennis.

Also, since John's passing, I think their overall sound has changed. Todd is one of the best drummers I've ever seen, but John's good ol' Stiff armed beats were a BIG part of their sound. I just had to sneak that in. :idea:

a lightbulb for your entertainment.

by **styxfansite** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:45 pm

Skates wrote:Ok? Try great. I think that he's an asset to Styx. With his multiple awards and award nominations from Canada, he's a plus to the band. He brings a different energy to the stage, and it's an energy that Styx needs.

Weird, that "almost" sounds like what Jy said. Here is what Jy said in 1999.

Jy 1999 wrote:"Gowan's a real asset to Styx," explains JY. "He's brought new energy and excitement to the stage and I don't think I've had this much fun playing live in many years." "

Gowan is ok with his own music, but I don't think his vocals are a match with the other two in Styx. He also can't sing Dennis's songs worth a flip either and that are most of the songs people want to hear, like "Grand Illusion", "Rockin the Paradise", "lady", "Come Sail Away", and "Suite Madam Blue".

by **styxfanNH** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:57 pm

I don't think we actually know what Larry could actually contribute to the band musically. We only have a few songs of his that have been able to make their way to an album. (The same can be said true of Glen.... Even though much of Edge was Glen's material and not STYX material)

He can play keys and he is an excellent entertainer. He has his role in the way the band is constituted now and fits in perfectly with the way the band portrays itself now. As a straight ahead, high energy rock and roll band.

I don't think musically or definitevely we can say that Larry is better than Dennis or vice versa. They had different roles in the band. And bring/brought different things to the table.

And just because you have a degree in Music, doesn't mean you are a better muician. It just means you have a degree.

by **MtlLady** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:33 pm

>That is a serious question. Why does Dennis out sale a canadian ran styx in canada, anyone?

I wish I knew why. And I wish I knew why he can fill all the seats of one of the major concert halls in Montreal at $75.00 a ticket and only plays state fairs in the US.

The only thing I can figure is that there are so many talented musicians in the US that the American music audience is spoiled with the abundance, maybe?

As for DDY, I can only speak personally, in that I like his writing, his music, and the class that he brings to a concert. Why the Quebec audience likes him so much I can't say because I'm not a native Quebecer.

Just to balance out this post, I've been a Styx fan since I was 14 living in the backwoods of Nova Scotia. I'll be seeing them live next week.

But I've been to 7 DDY concerts and I'm going again next month. :-)

by **blt man** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:26 am

styxfansite wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:Got that off my chest.

:: Waiting For Severe Backlash::

Dennis is more popular in canada, does that mean Larry is more popular in Chicago

That is a serious question. Why does Dennis out sale a canadian ran styx in canada, anyone?

Other than in Quebec, I don't think anyone knows which of Dennis or Styx is more popular in the "rest of Canada".

With respect to Quebec, Styx music was and has been very popular there. The songs Quebecers have tended to like (like Suite Madame Blue) were written by Dennis. Dennis has capitalized on the music's popularity by apearing on their version of Idol (reminding Quebecers of his music) and playing in some cities that most anglophone artists don't play. I presume that this has given him a tremedous amount of goodwill amongst music fans in the province. Dennis' label in Canada is an independant Quebec based label that distributes through Universal Music. They know the Quebec market really well and have done an amazing job supporting Dennis new CD.

by **gr8dane** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:03 am

piecesofeight wrote:
Skates wrote:Ok? Try great. I think that he's an asset to Styx. With his multiple awards and award nominations from Canada, he's a plus to the band. He brings a different energy to the stage, and it's an energy that Styx needs.

Yep, chipmunks have lots of energy. If I want to see energy, I will go to the woods. If I want to hear how Styx should sound, I will go see DDY.

So are you saying that there is little or no energy at a Dennis show.?

by **Blue Falcon** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:56 am

The writing is on the wall for Gowan. Going from four consecutive multi-platinum albums to getting a 35-minute set opening for the likes of Def Leppard is a HUGE fall. Tommy and JY can talk about this being the best Styx lineup ever, but it's just whistling past the graveyard. Styx couldn't even headline in my backyard, at this point.

All Tommy and JY have to do is look at what Journey did, who hired a Steve Perry clone. We all know Gowan can't sing DDY's songs worth a crap. And I'm sure JY's eyes are bulging when he sees The Police packing 'em in on their reunion tour. It's only a matter of time before the peace feelers go out to DDY.

by **Zan** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:15 am

:::SwooSH:::

by **styxfanNH** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:07 am

Blue Falcon wrote:The writing is on the wall for Gowan. Going from four consecutive multi-platinum albums to getting a 35-minute set opening for the likes of Def Leppard is a HUGE fall. Tommy and JY can talk about this being the best Styx lineup ever, but it's just whistling past the graveyard. Styx couldn't even headline in my backyard, at this point.

All Tommy and JY have to do is look at what Journey did, who hired a Steve Perry clone. We all know Gowan can't sing DDY's songs worth a crap. And I'm sure JY's eyes are bulging when he sees The Police packing 'em in on their reunion tour. It's only a matter of time before the peace feelers go out to DDY.

Falcon, explain to me how you get a 35 minute set when the same set that was mentioned in another thread (which is the time you are using) is 50/55 minutes in length in every other venue they are playing in. And when Foreigner is not playing and they are the only other act, they are playing 75 minutes? On top of that, many of the shows they are playing are 90 minutes in length when they are the headliner.

by **yogi** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:33 am

It is a little known fact but Styx recently played a 2 hour 10 minute set in L.A. They played EVERYTHING with the exception of Renegade & Come Sail Away. Will explain this oversight later.

My brother was there and he said it SMOKED!! 'Best concert he EVER saw' were his EXACT words. This is coming from someone who isnt the biggest Styx fan and could give a rats ass about the Deyoung/Gowan fan fights.

Before the First Encore( Too Much Time & Miss America) Jack came out and introduced his new Steak & Chedder Sandwich. Jack then left the building(so everyone thought). When the confetti came down from the rafters it was free sandwichs for all coupons. The crowd went BALLASTIC!!!!!!

Jack sure knows how to do promos. My brother told me that this particular Jack In The Box could hold at least 200 people and the place was 3/4 full. The sound was excellent espically in the play area.

A few sour notes did occur: Styx would have even played longer( Second Encore) but a birthday party arrived. JY and Jack then got into a HEATED argument because WAAAYYYY more people wanted Jacks autograph. Jack was not suppose to show up again until the band had completely left the venue. This was in the contract according to the Styx people. Tommy & Gowan were also pissed because they didnt get to play their two biggest hits. Finally, Todd & Ricky were both upset because they put tooo many onions on their Steak & Chedder sandwiches.

Still it was a GREAT show. The boys got to extend their set quite a bit(something Todd REALLY wants). Jack In The Box has a HUGE fan base. And Styx is realizing that they can get past DDY, Foreigner, Glen & Def Leppard. Who needs any of em???

The planets are about to allign!!!!!!

by **styxfanNH** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:47 am

yogi wrote:It is a little known fact but Styx recently played a 2 hour 10 minute set in L.A. They played EVERYTHING with the exception of Renegade & Come Sail Away. Will explain this oversight later.

My brother was there and he said it SMOKED!! 'Best concert he EVER saw' were his EXACT words. This is coming from someone who isnt the biggest Styx fan and could give a rats ass about the Deyoung/Gowan fan fights.

Before the First Encore( Too Much Time & Miss America) Jack came out and introduced his new Steak & Chedder Sandwich. Jack then left the building(so everyone thought). When the confetti came down from the rafters it was free sandwichs for all coupons. The crowd went BALLASTIC!!!!!!

Jack sure knows how to do promos. My brother told me that this particular Jack In The Box could hold at least 200 people and the place was 3/4 full. The sound was excellent espically in the play area.

A few sour notes did occur: Styx would have even played longer( Second Encore) but a birthday party arrived. JY and Jack then got into a HEATED argument because WAAAYYYY more people wanted Jacks autograph. Jack was not suppose to show up again until the band had completely left the venue. This was in the contract according to the Styx people. Tommy & Gowan were also pissed because they didnt get to play their two biggest hits. Finally, Todd & Ricky were both upset because they put tooo many onions on their Steak & Chedder sandwiches.

Still it was a GREAT show. The boys got to extend their set quite a bit(something Todd REALLY wants). Jack In The Box has a HUGE fan base. And Styx is realizing that they can get past DDY, Foreigner, Glen & Def Leppard. Who needs any of em???

The planets are about to allign!!!!!!

You really have time to make this stuff up?

by **yogi** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:01 am

I am just reporting facts.

Shit, My brother goes out to LA for an accounting seminar sees a line of about 75 standing outside of a Jack In the Box and he gets curious.

I get ugly PM's because I write this??

Someone has to stand up to the Zans & Froys of the world.

I dont give a shit if they(either DDY or Styx) play under a man whole cover or at a Century Twenty One house warming.

As long as they are out there they ARE relevant.

I am happy that Styx got the Jack In The Box Steak & Cheeder gig. I am also glad that they were on that night.

PLEASE stop PM'ing me with your Styx is Better with Gowan beliefs. I like Gowan, I LOVE DDY. Both are GREAT. Lets ALL be happy.

In the mean time......... pass the curly fries JY!!!!!!

by **GrandIllusionist725** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:13 am

Lawrence's solo stuff is magnificent! I like him in Styx, he adds more energy to the group. But its nearly impossible to replace Dennis, its easy to be torn here.

by **styxfansite** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:24 am

GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Lawrence's solo stuff is magnificent! I like him in Styx, he adds more energy to the group. But its nearly impossible to replace Dennis, its easy to be torn here.

I think it was mentioned on another board that "IF" things"ever" got worked out and Dennis appologizes for the lawsuit and Jy, Tommy, and Chuck appologize for replaceing him and he comes back, Larry should stay as the keyboardist and let Dennis be a vocalist only and maybe do some piano on CSA and Lady.

All of that wasn't mentioned but the part about Dennis being a vocalist and keeping Larry on keys was mentioned.

by **froy** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:58 am

and he comes back, Larry should stay as the keyboardist and let Dennis be a vocalist only and maybe do some piano on CSA and Lady.

Yea that was a crack head who said that
No chance in hell.
What's Dennis do during Fooling Yourself?
Tap Dance?

The name Gowan will never be mentioned again when Dennis comes back
Give him his bags and kick his ass out,

by **Ash** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:08 am

froy wrote:
and he comes back, Larry should stay as the keyboardist and let Dennis be a vocalist only and maybe do some piano on CSA and Lady.

Yea that was a crack head who said that
No chance in hell.
What's Dennis do during Fooling Yourself?
Tap Dance?

The name Gowan will never be mentioned again when Dennis comes back
Give him his bags and kick his ass out,

Screw it all. Dennis better never go back to Styx. He can perform and hang with Tommy and Glen all he wants - but if he ever shares a stage with JY again, I'll likely lose respect for him.

by **yogi** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:23 am

Styx will be doing 2 MORE 'Jack In The Box' Steak & Cheader Openings August 27 in Morehead MN(New Store) and September 17 Racine Wisconsin (New Store)

For those of you who do not believe me go to www.styxworld.com log on to the tour & then promo section and it is there for you to read for yourself.

My brother told me that the LA show was AWESOME. Maybe it is a good marketing ploy. Who knows????

Why slam em for trying. I am sure that it will have something to do with pushing CD's when their new music comes out.

'Damn It, Damn It, I just couldnt think of any songs about Burgers'

Tommy Shaw- 2010 Edition of VH1 Behind The Music.

by **DarwinNebraska** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:12 am

styxfansite wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Lawrence's solo stuff is magnificent! I like him in Styx, he adds more energy to the group. But its nearly impossible to replace Dennis, its easy to be torn here.

I think it was mentioned on another board that "IF" things"ever" got worked out and Dennis appologizes for the lawsuit and Jy, Tommy, and Chuck appologize for replaceing him and he comes back, Larry should stay as the keyboardist and let Dennis be a vocalist only and maybe do some piano on CSA and Lady.

No thanks, but I am open to the idea of letting Gowan make the coffee backstage.

by **Grotelul** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:53 am

DarwinNebraska wrote:
styxfansite wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Lawrence's solo stuff is magnificent! I like him in Styx, he adds more energy to the group. But its nearly impossible to replace Dennis, its easy to be torn here.

I think it was mentioned on another board that "IF" things"ever" got worked out and Dennis appologizes for the lawsuit and Jy, Tommy, and Chuck appologize for replaceing him and he comes back, Larry should stay as the keyboardist and let Dennis be a vocalist only and maybe do some piano on CSA and Lady.

No thanks, but I am open to the idea of letting Gowan make the coffee backstage.

The show is more energetic with Gowan out there..that there is no denying. Dennis acts like a goofy boomer on stage who can barely keep his obvious rug on. He is happy with where he is and so are the other guys. Why can't you be happy?

by **DarwinNebraska** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:04 am

Grotelul wrote:The show is more energetic with Gowan out there..that there is no denying. Dennis acts like a goofy boomer on stage who can barely keep his obvious rug on. He is happy with where he is and so are the other guys. Why can't you be happy?

There's more energy at the circus... why don't you hang out there.

You'd probably fit right in.

MR

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