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Saint or Sinner?

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A little of both
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He takes no prisoners
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:56 am

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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:01 am

Matthew wrote:
Wheels Of Fyre wrote:I want to know why Matthew hasn't adopted the JC sofa lounge shot from Arrival for his AV yet! Have you NOT seen it...? I mean the guy/gal is sitting there with that eerie homosexually charged come hither look. Right next to him is SA and NS trying to sit like men.

It's bizarre.



I've already asked someone to post the damn thing! My copy of Arrival is somewhere up in the loft....


Yes, and zoom in and do an enhancement on Cain's soul patch please. I want to determine if I see flecks of glue residue there.
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:05 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
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Define "soft rock"


My God...we've just discussed this for TEN PAGES...and you even started a THREAD about this which Andrew and many other experts replied too....and STILL you plead ignorance!


NO Matty. I started a thread about MELODIC rock. Are u now saying SOFT rock & MELODIC rock are one & the same b/c we'll have to agree to differ on that one too.


Well, melodic rock isn't hard rock, is it? So therefore....
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:07 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
Matthew wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
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JR (Susie) wrote: I have won so many sets in this thread, I just threw a few points out for Matty to take.



I don't what's more sad...a bad loser or someone who doesn't even know she's lost.


U mean "he's lost". Even Niggy thought u'd lost it.



What do you mean "even Niggy"?


Cos he's a nice guy who's usually the last to give up hope :-)



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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:08 am

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Yes, and zoom in and do an enhancement on Cain's soul patch please. I want to determine if I see flecks of glue residue there.


Red - say it isn't so - surely the rug is real? Or have I misunderstood "soul patch"?
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:11 am

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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:11 am

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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:12 am

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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:13 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
Matthew wrote:Well, melodic rock isn't hard rock, is it? So therefore....


Oh fuck. Go read Andrew's answer & shut up please.


I did. He said your definition of melodic rock was total bullshit.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:14 am

Matthew wrote:
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Yes, and zoom in and do an enhancement on Cain's soul patch please. I want to determine if I see flecks of glue residue there.


Red - say it isn't so - surely the rug is real? Or have I misunderstood "soul patch"?


No Cain's got his real lettuce.

Soul patch is that little facial hair (like thumnail size) musicians and ballplayers had working in the late 90s early 00s. Cain's ALWAYS up on those trends (ROR smock, BE Hairspray and makeup, long foppish mane in '96).
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:15 am

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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:16 am

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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:17 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
Matthew wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
Matthew wrote:Well, melodic rock isn't hard rock, is it? So therefore....


Oh fuck. Go read Andrew's answer & shut up please.


I did. He said your definition of melodic rock was total bullshit.


No he said the one on Amazon was bullshit. Can u even fucking read? Here's his definition:

"Rock songs with an emphasis on melody, some rockers, some ballads.....but all MELODIC yet powerful. Not too heavy, not too light."

Get it that time?


Oh...I must have been confused by the line you edited out from that quote:

"Lots of stuff like metal, classic rock, AOR and hard rock is feautured here but the music that for me definies the term is stuff like JSS Prism, Harem Scarem, Eric Martin, Toto, Mike Tramp, Pride Of Lions etc... "

In other words...it doesn't include hard rock. As I've just said.
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:18 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No Cain's got his real lettuce.


I beg to differ. How come he's no longer got a bald spot?

Or do u just mean "real" in terms of it being transplanted from some other part of his body?



I see. The offer from the major label isn't our business - but this is?
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:28 am

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Wheels Of Fyre wrote:I was always taught that we're all winners. :D



Bet ya that's not how Wombat describes us in private circles. :lol:


"Weiners" is probably the term heard in those circles :wink:
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:29 am

Matthew wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No Cain's got his real lettuce.


I beg to differ. How come he's no longer got a bald spot?

Or do u just mean "real" in terms of it being transplanted from some other part of his body?



I see. The offer from the major label isn't our business - but this is?


Shouldn't you be up in the loft looking for something...?
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Matthew wrote:
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Yes, and zoom in and do an enhancement on Cain's soul patch please. I want to determine if I see flecks of glue residue there.


Red - say it isn't so - surely the rug is real? Or have I misunderstood "soul patch"?


No Cain's got his real lettuce.

Soul patch is that little facial hair (like thumnail size) musicians and ballplayers had working in the late 90s early 00s. Cain's ALWAYS up on those trends (ROR smock, BE Hairspray and makeup, long foppish mane in '96).


He's a snappy guy! :lol:
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:32 am

Wheels Of Fyre wrote:
Matthew wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No Cain's got his real lettuce.


I beg to differ. How come he's no longer got a bald spot?

Or do u just mean "real" in terms of it being transplanted from some other part of his body?



I see. The offer from the major label isn't our business - but this is?


Shouldn't you be up in the loft looking for something...?




:lol: I can't seem to motivate myself....
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:32 am

Matthew wrote:
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Define "soft rock"


My God...we've just discussed this for TEN PAGES...and you even started a THREAD about this which Andrew and many other experts replied too....and STILL you plead ignorance!


NO Matty. I started a thread about MELODIC rock. Are u now saying SOFT rock & MELODIC rock are one & the same b/c we'll have to agree to differ on that one too.


Well, melodic rock isn't hard rock, is it? So therefore....


Granite. Now THAT'S hard rock. Marble is pretty hard, too but I'm partial to Blue Stone.
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:34 am

Matthew wrote:
Wheels Of Fyre wrote:
Matthew wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No Cain's got his real lettuce.


I beg to differ. How come he's no longer got a bald spot?

Or do u just mean "real" in terms of it being transplanted from some other part of his body?



I see. The offer from the major label isn't our business - but this is?


Shouldn't you be up in the loft looking for something...?




:lol: I can't seem to motivate myself....


Obviously I'm not much good at motivating you, either.

Maybe there's something up there in the loft that you fear...? Is that the place where you learned that JC didn't love you as much as you love him...? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:34 am

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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:39 am

JR (Susie) wrote:[I wouldn't call Toto soft rock. Would u? Really?


I'd say that Toto are on the lighter end of the AOR spectrum. I mean...Africa doesn't exactly shake the foundations does it?

As for JSS Prism...no idea...I kind of overdosed on all the cover versions posted in this forum and I lost the will to check out his back catalogue....
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:45 am

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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:48 am

Wheels Of Fyre wrote:Obviously I'm not much good at motivating you, either.

Maybe there's something up there in the loft that you fear...?


Yes. It's called Arrival.

Is that the place where you learned that JC didn't love you as much as you love him...? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't need to discover Jonathan Cain hiding in my loft to know that that's the truth...
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:51 am

JR (Susie) wrote:Africa is ONLY one song Toto ever did tho. They've got a HUGE volume of music other than that.


Wow...you learn something new every day on this site...especially when you're online.

Seriously Matty, check out Jeff's back catalogue. Ur missing TONS by not doing so. There is so much incredible music in there. I LOVE Prism, also Love Parade & Lost In The Translation, dare I say, even his Essential Ballads (slam me for that, go ahead -- but they are NOT syrup). His work w/Talisman is amazing too. Then there's his work w/Eyes that I could play all day long. Then all the demos floating around from Vinnie Vincent, Ju-De-Ta (I play that ALL day), & a whole host of other stuff.


I like Believe in Me and a few of those songs he did for Rock Star. The rest sounds a bit 'journeyman' to me...no pun intended.


It may even shake ur love of Friga a bit to hear such an absolutely incredible body of music.



When it comes to the Perry/Schon/Cain trio I'm a fanatic who won't listen to reason. Nothing can shake this.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:56 am

JR (Susie) wrote:Africa is ONLY one song Toto ever did tho. They've got a HUGE volume of music other than that.

Yeah, but ask 10 of your friends to name a Toto song. They'll answer "Africa", trust me I've done it! :lol:
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Postby Matthew » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:58 am

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JR (Susie) wrote:Africa is ONLY one song Toto ever did tho. They've got a HUGE volume of music other than that.

Yeah, but ask 10 of your friends to name a Toto song. They'll answer "Africa", trust me I've done it! :lol:


:lol: Brilliant....
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Postby styxman » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:00 am

I think what Matt's saying here is the main lineup is Journey......like it or not they're what we jumped on the bandwagon for. Cain created some of the best parts of this dead in the water band. Throw any new lead singer into the fray and they'll still never be Journey as we know them. It's Perry, Cain and Schon and that's the bottom line. I don't give a fuck what's been said in this thread as I've no inclination to read it......Matt you're a fuckin saint for stickin' to your guns about Cain, 100% right in what you say. Perry back in the fold = Journey saved, until that day they're a fuckin washed up waste of space. Cain never being in the fold = Journey a C rate band. You can hire a guitarist two to the penny but not a song writer with a clear vision like cain, even though he looks pretty freakin' girlish.
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