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Postby AR » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:19 am

Red13JoePa wrote:They could hire Killer Kahn.

He could sing and then spray the green bile out his mouth to complement Pencil Holder Face Valory spraying the water pistol.


Killer Khan actually runs a karoake bar in Japan, so it's not so far fetched. I'm thinking since he runs a business, he's too smart for Frig and Fro though. It's got to be 3rd World. If they are considering him at all is because he was billed from Upper Mongolia, but he's really Japanese, which will disqualify him immediately from consideration. Khan would see right through the Princess and Tattoo.

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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:14 am

I am shocked that people are so against Arnel singing for Journey ? No emotion ? What, are some of you deaf ? Steve Perry set the bar so high he cant even reach it himself now. This guy is the 2nd closest to doing it right with Jason Kelty being number one in my book but since Jason has found Jesus he doesnt sing Journey anymore. I like Jeremy as well however Arnel IMHO just has a better top end to his voice. Jeremy gets a little shrill when he goes high and yes his stamina is questionable. Arnel has been singing many nights a week for years and is holding up very well. Him and Perry could do a duet that would melt your wig...... His accent ? So fucking what ? I dont hear it in the music but what I do hear is a shitload of potential. I support Arnel 100% and will be happy to go see them even if it is at a fucking Shoe Carnival !
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Postby StoneCold » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:15 am

Saw this comment over there, what do you think about these comparison's to Jeremey?

Jeremey plays once or twice a month in local bars. He has never had a recording contract, never gone on tour, and has a day job. Arnel Pineda has been a professional musician since 1983. He has had 2 recording contracts, a solo album with Warner Bros. and a recently released album with his band The Zoo on MCA Universal. He performed 3-5 hour sets 5 nights a week in Hong Kong before returning to the Philippines where he currently performs 3-4 hour sets 4-5 nights a week. If I was a betting man, I'd gamble on Arnel's voice holding up for a Journey tour. I'd be seriously worried about Jeremey's voice since Jeremey does not have a track record of performing more than twice a month.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:29 am

I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:02 am

Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:35 am

Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:38 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:42 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Even JSS admitted that he struggled at first....but sure...let's agree to differ about Arnel.
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:43 am

Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:46 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


I guess we will see right? (making every effort not to look at your avatar) :lol:
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:46 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:48 am

NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!



Say something articulate or fuck off out of the conversation. What's your point?
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:51 am

Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!



Say something articulate or fuck off out of the conversation. What's your point?


Prolly not an Arnel supporter. Just my guess. :lol:
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:52 am

Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!



Say something articulate or fuck off out of the conversation. What's your point?


Point is, Arnel sounds absolutely nothing like Perry. Nobody does and you know that! If not, you fuck off. Get real!
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:53 am

Rick wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!



Say something articulate or fuck off out of the conversation. What's your point?


Prolly not an Arnel supporter. Just my guess. :lol:



I'll only take that guy seriously if he's a Loon. If he has even so much as posted one sentence in praise of Steve Augeri then guy has no credibility on the Arnel issue at all. :)
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:56 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I still hear Arnel sliding into notes as opposed to 'hitting them'. I heard strain in the voice hitting some of the notes, not all, but some. He also sings other bands songs, not Journey exclusively, which we all know, is a bitch on the voice box. Standard was set way high. Covering JUST Journey songs is hella harsh on the singer's voice, and even more so with Neal's need to do 10,000,000,001 concerts a month.

JSS was the man to do the job. He did it with energy, enthusiasm and fantastic talent. I don't see Arnel, or anyone else currently in the 'running', being able to do the job well enough to earn my hard earned money for me to see it live. None have impressed me enough to warrant handing over my bucks. None.



JSS didn't sound good at all on the early You Tube clips singing Journey songs - but he adapted. Arnel sounds much much better than JSS did at the equivalent stage.


I'd disagree, but it's cool.


Jeff didn't sound great at first, but he made the adjustments and was kicking major ass soon after.



So imagine how Arnel could sound...after a few adjustments. He isn't struggling one bit with the catalogue at the moment....


BARF!

You call yourself a Journey fan?

SICK!



Say something articulate or fuck off out of the conversation. What's your point?


Prolly not an Arnel supporter. Just my guess. :lol:



I'll only take that guy seriously if he's a Loon. If he has even so much as posted one sentence in praise of Steve Augeri then guy has no credibility on the Arnel issue at all. :)


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:01 am

NoMoJo wrote:Point is, Arnel sounds absolutely nothing like Perry. Nobody does and you know that! If not, you fuck off. Get real!



Of course nobody sounds like Perry. And of course it would have been better had Journey shut up shop ten years ago. But they didn't and here they are and I haven't got the energy to feel pissed off about it anymore.

It'll always be second best - but at least Arnel represents a risk of some kind - and I think his renditions of the trusty hits are pretty soulful. I'll certainly enjoy a show with him in the band more than that depressing wretch of a show I saw in 2006....
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:04 am

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Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:10 am

Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Leave Brian alone, he's a good dude.

Matt, check this out. Arnel sings the song well, but tell me that accent doesn't get to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjcCzgCCX0

I always wondered how you spelled git. :lol:
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:11 am

Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Ohh.. I have! :lol: Thanks! I just stop in every once in a while to see what's up! Enjoy the show! That is, if it ever happens at all! :roll:
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:13 am

Rick wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Leave Brian alone, he's a good dude.

Matt, check this out. Arnel sings the song well, but tell me that accent doesn't get to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjcCzgCCX0

I always wondered how you spelled git. :lol:


Thanks, Rick..
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:17 am

Rick wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Leave Brian alone, he's a good dude.

Matt, check this out. Arnel sings the song well, but tell me that accent doesn't get to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjcCzgCCX0

I always wondered how you spelled git. :lol:



Hey Rick....this Brian character gives as good as he gets. No need to molly-coddle him. :D

Anyway...I totally agree the accent will need work. But it bugs me less than the early JSS recordings which were actually painful to listen to at times. As you say...JSS adapted in a big way and ended up sounding great...so why the lack of faith with Arnel?
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:19 am

NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Ohh.. I have! :lol: Thanks! I just stop in every once in a while to see what's up! Enjoy the show! That is, if it ever happens at all! :roll:



Amazing how many people there are who have sworn off the band and walked off self-righteously into the sunset...only to return night after night after night to post just as much as they always did before.

See you all at the shows next year!
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:21 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Leave Brian alone, he's a good dude.

Matt, check this out. Arnel sings the song well, but tell me that accent doesn't get to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjcCzgCCX0

I always wondered how you spelled git. :lol:



Hey Rick....this Brian character gives as good as he gets. No need to molly-coddle him. :D

Anyway...I totally agree the accent will need work. But it bugs me less than the early JSS recordings which were actually painful to listen to at times. As you say...JSS adapted in a big way and ended up sounding great...so why the lack of faith with Arnel?


I'm just pissed that they gave Jeff the boot, and especially they way they did it. Arnels accent bugs me, but like you said, they can work on it. After that, I wanted Jeremey to get the gig. I think he's great singing Journeys music. Believe me, it's nothing to do with race or nationality.
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:22 am

Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Ohh.. I have! :lol: Thanks! I just stop in every once in a while to see what's up! Enjoy the show! That is, if it ever happens at all! :roll:



Amazing how many people there are who have sworn off the band and walked off self-righteously into the sunset...only to return night after night after night to post just as much as they always did before. :wink:


It is amazing isn't it? However, I have to tell you that I am not one of those who are here night after night after night. :lol: Good try!
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:25 am

NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NoMoJo wrote:


Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Ohh.. I have! :lol: Thanks! I just stop in every once in a while to see what's up! Enjoy the show! That is, if it ever happens at all! :roll:



Amazing how many people there are who have sworn off the band and walked off self-righteously into the sunset...only to return night after night after night to post just as much as they always did before. :wink:


It is amazing isn't it? However, I have to tell you that I am not one of those who are here night after night after night. :lol: Good try!


What is amazing about Journey fans is that they are pretty fucking die hard. Then those that aren't fans hate them with a passion. Kinda like the Dallas Cowboys. I'm a Cowboys fan btw. :wink:
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:26 am

Rick wrote:I'm just pissed that they gave Jeff the boot, and especially they way they did it. Arnels accent bugs me, but like you said, they can work on it. After that, I wanted Jeremey to get the gig. I think he's great singing Journeys music. Believe me, it's nothing to do with race or nationality.



Fair enough Rick - and getting rid of JSS was an idiotic decision - although we've yet to hear about his part in what went wrong. I still wonder if he put too much pressure on them tioo quickly re: the recoding career and made it clear he wasn't happy just singing the hits. In other words..that he forced Journey's hand. It's the only explanation that seems convincing to me.

The real sadness is that Schon and Cain's creativity has run dry....but God..it was good while it lasted wasn't it?
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Postby Matthew » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:28 am

NoMoJo wrote:
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Yeah.. whatever. You aren't worth the trouble. I've seen your bullshit writings.

Are you by any chance Jons mistress? :lol:



Why don't you put your ridiculous user name into action and move on with your life, you miserable git? :roll:


Ohh.. I have! :lol: Thanks! I just stop in every once in a while to see what's up! Enjoy the show! That is, if it ever happens at all! :roll:



Amazing how many people there are who have sworn off the band and walked off self-righteously into the sunset...only to return night after night after night to post just as much as they always did before. :wink:


It is amazing isn't it? However, I have to tell you that I am not one of those who are here night after night after night. :lol: Good try!



Okay NOMoJo...I'll take your word for it...even though I have to say I wasn't surprised to see you here tonight. :)
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Postby Rick » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:32 am

Matthew wrote:
Rick wrote:I'm just pissed that they gave Jeff the boot, and especially they way they did it. Arnels accent bugs me, but like you said, they can work on it. After that, I wanted Jeremey to get the gig. I think he's great singing Journeys music. Believe me, it's nothing to do with race or nationality.



Fair enough Rick - and getting rid of JSS was an idiotic decision - although we've yet to hear about his part in what went wrong. I still wonder if he put too much pressure on them tioo quickly re: the recoding career and made it clear he wasn't happy just singing the hits. In other words..that he forced Journey's hand. It's the only explanation that seems convincing to me.

The real sadness is that Schon and Cain's creativity has run dry....but God..it was good while it lasted wasn't it?


It sure was bro. It was a great ride. I agree with everything you said here. I have thought the same things as to why they let him go. He was obviously thrilled with his new position and like you said, was probably pushing them to do all those things. He's a workaholic, and those old bastards are loving their recliners at this point.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:18 pm

Voice: Soto > Pineda
Presence: Soto > Pineda
Track Record: Soto > Pineda
Look: Soto > Pineda
Charisma: Soto > Pineda
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