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Postby CatEyes » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:00 am

in email from my fave bob lefsetz www.lefsetz.com today ...... forwarded from Tommy Shaw:

[background] Lefsetz in a recent column mentioned seeing TS on a flight to Nashville]

From: Tommy Shaw

Subject: Tommy Shaw here...

Date: October 16, 2007 5:50:26 PM CDT

To: bob@lefsetz.com

Hey Bob,

When we got to our room last night my wife and I began to get your blog forwarded to our e-mail accounts from friends around the country who'd seen that you mentioned seeing me on that music-biz LA/Nashville flight we were both on yesterday. You certainly have a huge and respectable following!

How about that flight? Unlike any other, this particular flight is notorious for its passengers, most all of whom are in some way involved in the music business and no other. It's not the least bit uncommon to see legends sitting in coach because other legends or other travel-savvy music business passengers thought ahead and got their first class seats in advance. I don't claim to be either one because my wife Jeanne and I didn't get our upgrade, even though we were #1 and 2 on the upgrade list.

I heard that you were giving the keynote address today at the IEBA wingding here in Nashville. STYX is receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award from them tonight. The place is chock full of promoters, managers and agents I have known and worked with over the years, most of whom I am used to seeing one at a time in their particular city. I'm still trying to figure out the right way to greet folks in clusters as I walk through the hotel lobby. To assume they know me, well, that's just not in my Southern nature or upbringing, but then when I say "Hi, I'm Tommy..." and the person says, "We've met many times..." it's almost as bad. I can claim, as Sir Paul's latest CD says in its title "Memory Almost Full." It's just one of the little awkward things that happens in these situations.

A few years ago my Damn Yankees and Shaw Blades partner Jack Blades and I went to Le Dome in LA for an A&M Records anniversary party for Gil Friesen. This was probably 1990, and by that time I had not seen any of the A&M alumni for quite a few years and was nervous walking in as I tried to visualize faces I might see and put names to them. Just as we waked in the door, I made eye contact with someone from across the room, who started to make their way towards me. Shit! I know this guy. Is he that radio guy from Chicago? What was his name? My heart was pounding. Now we were face to face and I stuck my hand out and said, "Hi, I'm Tommy..." He looked at me like I was crazy and said, "Tommy, I'm John Branca, your attorney." That was 17 years ago but I'd just given up the last of the drugs and alcohol the year before so that was a decent excuse back then.

I grew up in Montgomery, Alabama and Nashville was the first place I stopped at when I left Alabama to seek fame and fortune. Nashville agent Bobby "Smitty" Smith called me and invited me up to join a band he was putting together. Nashville was a very different place in 1973 but it was still Music City, USA and the rules you mentioned were very much in place. I didn't make it here and had to play around clubs and bars for a couple more years before someone from the STYX organization heard me at one of them in Chicago and I got my break when one John Curulewski left the band suddenly, but I will always remember leaving my parents a note that I was off to Nashville to make a name for myself. Here I came in my Ford Econoline with my three favorite 8-tracks in heavy rotation: Hank Williams "Greatest Hits," Van Morrison's "Tupelo Honey" and Elton John's "Madman Across the Water."

I still get that funny feeling when I come here.

I hope your Internet connection is better than mine. I keep having to restart to keep web pages alive, but my new MacBook Pro has a 250 gig hard drive and over half of it is unused. My head may be getting full but my laptop's just fine.

Keep on blogging in the free world and I'll see you downstairs in an hour.

Until then,

Hi, I'm Tommy Shaw



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Postby stmonkeys » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:37 am

hi cat- this appears to be a private email. how did you get a copy of it? LOL regardless, thanks for posting. quite insightful. I'll have to check out this blog- sounds interesting.

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Postby piecesofeight » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:53 am

"Tommy Shaw Speaks" .......

I was expecting more from that wording, but still a cool read, and then again, he's not JY.
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Re: Tommy Shaw Speaks

Postby rajah2165 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:49 am

CatEyes wrote:in email from my fave bob lefsetz www.lefsetz.com today ...... forwarded from Tommy Shaw:

[background] Lefsetz in a recent column mentioned seeing TS on a flight to Nashville]

From: Tommy Shaw

Subject: Tommy Shaw here...

Date: October 16, 2007 5:50:26 PM CDT

To: bob@lefsetz.com

Hey Bob,

When we got to our room last night my wife and I began to get your blog forwarded to our e-mail accounts from friends around the country who'd seen that you mentioned seeing me on that music-biz LA/Nashville flight we were both on yesterday. You certainly have a huge and respectable following!

How about that flight? Unlike any other, this particular flight is notorious for its passengers, most all of whom are in some way involved in the music business and no other. It's not the least bit uncommon to see legends sitting in coach because other legends or other travel-savvy music business passengers thought ahead and got their first class seats in advance. I don't claim to be either one because my wife Jeanne and I didn't get our upgrade, even though we were #1 and 2 on the upgrade list.

I heard that you were giving the keynote address today at the IEBA wingding here in Nashville. STYX is receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award from them tonight. The place is chock full of promoters, managers and agents I have known and worked with over the years, most of whom I am used to seeing one at a time in their particular city. I'm still trying to figure out the right way to greet folks in clusters as I walk through the hotel lobby. To assume they know me, well, that's just not in my Southern nature or upbringing, but then when I say "Hi, I'm Tommy..." and the person says, "We've met many times..." it's almost as bad. I can claim, as Sir Paul's latest CD says in its title "Memory Almost Full." It's just one of the little awkward things that happens in these situations.

A few years ago my Damn Yankees and Shaw Blades partner Jack Blades and I went to Le Dome in LA for an A&M Records anniversary party for Gil Friesen. This was probably 1990, and by that time I had not seen any of the A&M alumni for quite a few years and was nervous walking in as I tried to visualize faces I might see and put names to them. Just as we waked in the door, I made eye contact with someone from across the room, who started to make their way towards me. Shit! I know this guy. Is he that radio guy from Chicago? What was his name? My heart was pounding. Now we were face to face and I stuck my hand out and said, "Hi, I'm Tommy..." He looked at me like I was crazy and said, "Tommy, I'm John Branca, your attorney." That was 17 years ago but I'd just given up the last of the drugs and alcohol the year before so that was a decent excuse back then.

I grew up in Montgomery, Alabama and Nashville was the first place I stopped at when I left Alabama to seek fame and fortune. Nashville agent Bobby "Smitty" Smith called me and invited me up to join a band he was putting together. Nashville was a very different place in 1973 but it was still Music City, USA and the rules you mentioned were very much in place. I didn't make it here and had to play around clubs and bars for a couple more years before someone from the STYX organization heard me at one of them in Chicago and I got my break when one John Curulewski left the band suddenly, but I will always remember leaving my parents a note that I was off to Nashville to make a name for myself. Here I came in my Ford Econoline with my three favorite 8-tracks in heavy rotation: Hank Williams "Greatest Hits," Van Morrison's "Tupelo Honey" and Elton John's "Madman Across the Water."

I still get that funny feeling when I come here.

I hope your Internet connection is better than mine. I keep having to restart to keep web pages alive, but my new MacBook Pro has a 250 gig hard drive and over half of it is unused. My head may be getting full but my laptop's just fine.

Keep on blogging in the free world and I'll see you downstairs in an hour.

Until then,

Hi, I'm Tommy Shaw



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Postby Zan » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:00 am

Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:20 am

Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...
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Postby CatEyes » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:47 am

stmonkeys wrote:hi cat- this appears to be a private email. how did you get a copy of it? LOL regardless, thanks for posting. quite insightful. I'll have to check out this blog- sounds interesting.

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go to www.lefsetx.xom and subscribe.

Bob Lefsetz writes a daily column (sometime more) and emails it to his subscribers. Many people respond to those columns knowing that they will be sent along also.

This is Tommy's response to a column that bob had done the day before mentioning him.

the best part of the process is that bob also forwards the people who disagree with him - not just any ass kissers.

He gets comments from EVERYONE in the biz.

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Postby Zan » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:48 am

StyxCollector wrote:
Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...



Right. Tommy Shaw didn't "speak." He sent an email to someone who posted it to the entire world on his website. I really, really hope he had permission to do so. I'm holding onto that hope...
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Postby CatEyes » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:55 am

Zan wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...



Right. Tommy Shaw didn't "speak." He sent an email to someone who posted it to the entire world on his website. I really, really hope he had permission to do so. I'm holding onto that hope...


that is not what happened at all

go to www.lefsetz.com ...... click on visit the archives ........ scroll down to the article "Nashville,Now" , click on the comments.

Lefsetz is not out to make people believe he knows people --- he has been in the business for a long time and worked and played with the best ..... and he has comments from most of them -- even Irving.

He and TS were on the same plane heading to the IEBA (where Styx was receiving an award - as mentioned in another thread here) - Why was Lefsetz on the same plane? He was giving the keynote at the ceremonies.

from http://www.ieba.org/ (scroll down about half-way)

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Please forgive my misleading title of "Tommy Speaks"

Had I realized that the Styx forum was as divided as the Journey (or what used to be) forum - I would have titled it ..... no I would not have posted it at all - problem solved.

It was just something that I thought fans of Tommy's might enjoy (those who do not already subscribe to the lefsetz letter)

Not to worry - it won't happen again.

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Postby Grotelul » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:41 pm

CatEyes wrote:
Zan wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...



Right. Tommy Shaw didn't "speak." He sent an email to someone who posted it to the entire world on his website. I really, really hope he had permission to do so. I'm holding onto that hope...


that is not what happened at all

go to www.lefsetz.com ...... click on visit the archives ........ scroll down to the article "Nashville,Now" , click on the comments.

Lefsetz is not out to make people believe he knows people --- he has been in the business for a long time and worked and played with the best ..... and he has comments from most of them -- even Irving.

He and TS were on the same plane heading to the IEBA (where Styx was receiving an award - as mentioned in another thread here) - Why was Lefsetz on the same plane? He was giving the keynote at the ceremonies.

from http://www.ieba.org/ (scroll down about half-way)

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Please forgive my misleading title of "Tommy Speaks"

Had I realized that the Styx forum was as divided as the Journey (or what used to be) forum - I would have titled it ..... no I would not have posted it at all - problem solved.

It was just something that I thought fans of Tommy's might enjoy (those who do not already subscribe to the lefsetz letter)

Not to worry - it won't happen again.

Cat


Thanks for posting this. I don't know why anyone would object to posting Tommy's COMMENTS to Bob's message in his blog.
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Postby stabbim » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:16 pm

Grotelul wrote:I don't know why anyone would object to posting Tommy's COMMENTS to Bob's message in his blog.


They wouldn't.


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Postby Zan » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:26 pm

CatEyes wrote:
Zan wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...



Right. Tommy Shaw didn't "speak." He sent an email to someone who posted it to the entire world on his website. I really, really hope he had permission to do so. I'm holding onto that hope...


that is not what happened at all

go to www.lefsetz.com ...... click on visit the archives ........ scroll down to the article "Nashville,Now" , click on the comments.

Lefsetz is not out to make people believe he knows people --- he has been in the business for a long time and worked and played with the best ..... and he has comments from most of them -- even Irving.

He and TS were on the same plane heading to the IEBA (where Styx was receiving an award - as mentioned in another thread here) - Why was Lefsetz on the same plane? He was giving the keynote at the ceremonies.

from http://www.ieba.org/ (scroll down about half-way)

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Please forgive my misleading title of "Tommy Speaks"

Had I realized that the Styx forum was as divided as the Journey (or what used to be) forum - I would have titled it ..... no I would not have posted it at all - problem solved.

It was just something that I thought fans of Tommy's might enjoy (those who do not already subscribe to the lefsetz letter)

Not to worry - it won't happen again.

Cat



Not to worry! I'm GLAD it turned out to be not what it seemed at first, believe me! I've heard of worse happening. Which is one of the reasons why Tommy is more reclusive these days than he once was. This was legitimate, so... :) Thanks for posting it (and explaining too).
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Postby rajah2165 » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:55 am

Zan wrote:
CatEyes wrote:
Zan wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Zan wrote:Icky feeling, icky feeling...

OF course, it does seem to be fairly obvious that it's for publicity. Then again...ick. lol


One of those times when I'd have to say I 100% agree here ...



Right. Tommy Shaw didn't "speak." He sent an email to someone who posted it to the entire world on his website. I really, really hope he had permission to do so. I'm holding onto that hope...


that is not what happened at all

go to www.lefsetz.com ...... click on visit the archives ........ scroll down to the article "Nashville,Now" , click on the comments.

Lefsetz is not out to make people believe he knows people --- he has been in the business for a long time and worked and played with the best ..... and he has comments from most of them -- even Irving.

He and TS were on the same plane heading to the IEBA (where Styx was receiving an award - as mentioned in another thread here) - Why was Lefsetz on the same plane? He was giving the keynote at the ceremonies.

from http://www.ieba.org/ (scroll down about half-way)

Image
(click on image for larger view)


Please forgive my misleading title of "Tommy Speaks"

Had I realized that the Styx forum was as divided as the Journey (or what used to be) forum - I would have titled it ..... no I would not have posted it at all - problem solved.

It was just something that I thought fans of Tommy's might enjoy (those who do not already subscribe to the lefsetz letter)

Not to worry - it won't happen again.

Cat



Not to worry! I'm GLAD it turned out to be not what it seemed at first, believe me! I've heard of worse happening. Which is one of the reasons why Tommy is more reclusive these days than he once was. This was legitimate, so... :) Thanks for posting it (and explaining too).


And how do you know the reasons why Tommy is more reclusive? I would aruge that Tommy is reclusive because he gets caught telling lies everytime he opens his mouth, so to save face he cuts down on his press apperances significantly...
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Postby Skates » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:09 am

And you hypothesize this why? Because you're a bored arrogant troll? with multiple online personalities?
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Postby stmonkeys » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:29 am

Skates wrote:And you hypothesize this why? Because you're a bored arrogant troll? with multiple online personalities?


chris- come on now, give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm sure he has multiple personalities offline as well.
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Postby MCM » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:55 am

Preface: I've been reading/enjoying this board for many months and always thought I was a Styx fan, apparently I'm not nearly the fan I though I was. I love them because I love the music, the songwriting, the harmonies and the memories, etc.

That said, please don't crucify me right away, but I don’t know if I should feel bad for CatEyes who posted something that she thought people might like to read (I did enjoy it) and then “got told about it” or should I laugh because silliness abounds.

Actually I’m quite happy to see that there are others in this world who are as passionate as I am about the musicians they love. I sometimes think that we enjoy the Dennis -vs - Tommy/JY question as it gives us something to dissect and discuss. I have encountered this topic more than you would think and have hashed it over with people in many different settings.

I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)
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Postby styxfanNH » Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:21 am

Trashing an article is a form of affection here. It appears you have been accepted into our little family here. And yes there are those that have picked sides here, but we respect each other mostly, well except for Rajah :wink:
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Postby stmonkeys » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:09 pm

MCM wrote:
I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)


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I have something that everybody here might appreciate. i'll try and get to it tonight or tomorrow. hehehehheheh..... ;)
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Postby Zan » Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:24 pm

MCM wrote:Preface: I've been reading/enjoying this board for many months and always thought I was a Styx fan, apparently I'm not nearly the fan I though I was. I love them because I love the music, the songwriting, the harmonies and the memories, etc.

That said, please don't crucify me right away, but I don’t know if I should feel bad for CatEyes who posted something that she thought people might like to read (I did enjoy it) and then “got told about it” or should I laugh because silliness abounds.

Actually I’m quite happy to see that there are others in this world who are as passionate as I am about the musicians they love. I sometimes think that we enjoy the Dennis -vs - Tommy/JY question as it gives us something to dissect and discuss. I have encountered this topic more than you would think and have hashed it over with people in many different settings.

I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)



Cool, thanks. We like her too. Just to clarify: I was not razzing cateyes so much as the dude who posted it to his website, and even then, I misunderstood the motivation and/or the authenticity of it. I have since been set straight and said so. I hope that clears things up a bit better. lol
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Postby CatEyes » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:01 pm

Zan wrote:
MCM wrote:Preface: I've been reading/enjoying this board for many months and always thought I was a Styx fan, apparently I'm not nearly the fan I though I was. I love them because I love the music, the songwriting, the harmonies and the memories, etc.

That said, please don't crucify me right away, but I don’t know if I should feel bad for CatEyes who posted something that she thought people might like to read (I did enjoy it) and then “got told about it” or should I laugh because silliness abounds.

Actually I’m quite happy to see that there are others in this world who are as passionate as I am about the musicians they love. I sometimes think that we enjoy the Dennis -vs - Tommy/JY question as it gives us something to dissect and discuss. I have encountered this topic more than you would think and have hashed it over with people in many different settings.

I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)



Cool, thanks. We like her too. Just to clarify: I was not razzing cateyes so much as the dude who posted it to his website, and even then, I misunderstood the motivation and/or the authenticity of it. I have since been set straight and said so. I hope that clears things up a bit better. lol


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Postby MCC620 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:43 pm

CatEyes wrote:
Zan wrote:
MCM wrote:Preface: I've been reading/enjoying this board for many months and always thought I was a Styx fan, apparently I'm not nearly the fan I though I was. I love them because I love the music, the songwriting, the harmonies and the memories, etc.

That said, please don't crucify me right away, but I don’t know if I should feel bad for CatEyes who posted something that she thought people might like to read (I did enjoy it) and then “got told about it” or should I laugh because silliness abounds.

Actually I’m quite happy to see that there are others in this world who are as passionate as I am about the musicians they love. I sometimes think that we enjoy the Dennis -vs - Tommy/JY question as it gives us something to dissect and discuss. I have encountered this topic more than you would think and have hashed it over with people in many different settings.

I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)



Cool, thanks. We like her too. Just to clarify: I was not razzing cateyes so much as the dude who posted it to his website, and even then, I misunderstood the motivation and/or the authenticity of it. I have since been set straight and said so. I hope that clears things up a bit better. lol


:lol:

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Get back to your own forum already!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Postby CatEyes » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:04 am

MCC620 wrote:
CatEyes wrote:
Zan wrote:
MCM wrote:Preface: I've been reading/enjoying this board for many months and always thought I was a Styx fan, apparently I'm not nearly the fan I though I was. I love them because I love the music, the songwriting, the harmonies and the memories, etc.

That said, please don't crucify me right away, but I don’t know if I should feel bad for CatEyes who posted something that she thought people might like to read (I did enjoy it) and then “got told about it” or should I laugh because silliness abounds.

Actually I’m quite happy to see that there are others in this world who are as passionate as I am about the musicians they love. I sometimes think that we enjoy the Dennis -vs - Tommy/JY question as it gives us something to dissect and discuss. I have encountered this topic more than you would think and have hashed it over with people in many different settings.

I must also say - Allan, I enjoy the site and the interviews; Zan, that is a really cute baby; and stmonkeys, I love your youtube posts (how do you have the time and where do you get them all)



Cool, thanks. We like her too. Just to clarify: I was not razzing cateyes so much as the dude who posted it to his website, and even then, I misunderstood the motivation and/or the authenticity of it. I have since been set straight and said so. I hope that clears things up a bit better. lol


:lol:

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Get back to your own forum already!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:


Damn!!! i step out just once and look at what happens!!!

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