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Postby Zan » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:42 am

StyxCollector wrote:And Chuck looks like a whole different person (go figure).



Now he looks like John.
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Postby brywool » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:27 pm

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styxman wrote:This brings back memories for me..ordered this on Video when it first came out, it included a poster and I sat with my then girlfriend and made her watch it twice (She left me a few months later!)


That was probably the reason lol. Just got mine today pretty cool. Isn't there a fooling yourself video out there? They showed it in behind the music.


Yup. Done during the same session as when "Come Sail Away" was done. Same clothes, etc. There's also one for "Miss America" from the same batch. I have them on Beta somewhere... Don Kirshnir introduces Styx as "Styling themselves after the supergroup Kansas... [who he neglects to mention that he managed at the time!]"


Think you could upload them if possible?


I've never done that and it'd mean getting it off the beta. Is that tough? After I posted this, I looked for those 2 online and I can see where someone had them on their site, but they had "videos removed by request of the artist" or something similar.
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Postby Skates » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:54 am

Somewhere I have the original release of Music Time...Even with the MTV logo of "First time airing" on it.

Okay, for the video sections and other comments...

I hope to hades that Tommy has burned the jumpsuit. Ugh.

Music Time, have you noticed how many times Dennis rolls his eyes in this and John looks really uncomfortable?

I know I am right on this one, so forgive me if I go a little tangenty. "Haven't We Been Here Before" was contracted to Dick Ebersol for Friday Night Videos on NBC. The video aired twice. My own copy, which I made the night it aired, the first night of the show, was right after Michael Jackson's Beat it. I read an article on it in Billboard, which had a picture of Ebersol and JY shaking hands (Sterling, you know what I'm talking about? I thought you might have seen that in your research).

I'm stunned it's in there as well, but it was great to see it there.

I only wish Show Me the Way and Love is the Ritual were there, but, hey, we got great old stuff.

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Postby Barbara » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:41 pm

I finally got my DVD in the mail the other week and watched it. After hearing you all talk about "Music Time". LOL. I was paying attention. Ha, ha. When I saw it, I remembered seeing it waaaay back when and it still brings out the same reaction. Laughing my ass off! It was funny/FUN then, and it is now!
The only thing I never understood. Why only ONE shot of Tommy through the whole thing?
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Postby sadie65 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:14 am

Barbara wrote:I finally got my DVD in the mail the other week and watched it. After hearing you all talk about "Music Time". LOL. I was paying attention. Ha, ha. When I saw it, I remembered seeing it waaaay back when and it still brings out the same reaction. Laughing my ass off! It was funny/FUN then, and it is now!
The only thing I never understood. Why only ONE shot of Tommy through the whole thing?


To fill a contractual agreement. He wanted no part of the video and this fulfilled his requirement. This video has always appealed to me because it was such totally silly fun.
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Postby bugsymalone » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:56 am

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Barbara wrote:I finally got my DVD in the mail the other week and watched it. After hearing you all talk about "Music Time". LOL. I was paying attention. Ha, ha. When I saw it, I remembered seeing it waaaay back when and it still brings out the same reaction. Laughing my ass off! It was funny/FUN then, and it is now!

This video has always appealed to me because it was such totally silly fun.


If you go back and look at videos made during that era, "Music Time" fits right in with some of those garish, cartoonish, crazy , out-there videos made in the 80's. I think particularly of the ones made by David Lee Roth. They were totally over the top and hilariously funny and fun. Bright colors that assaulted the senses and, of course, David Lee acting like an idiot, but completely in on the joke. I still enjoy watching them to this day and still laugh when I see them.

"Music Time" is quite in line with so many of those. I found it hilarious and got into the spirit of it for what it was -- a total departure for Styx, but really fun and funny with Dennis just throwing himself completely into that silly character.

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Postby Rockwriter » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:26 am

LOL, for me "Music Time" just does not work. I remember hearing it for the first time and thinking, 'Oh, okay, they must be trying to fit in with the current success of Duran Duran or whatever', and on that level I got it. But unlike "Mr. Roboto", which I agree is a curve ball, but nonetheless I think is a well-written song of its kind (albeit not particularly my taste), I think "Music Time" is just an absolute piece of shit. The song was bad enough, but the video, to me, was the final straw. Here's a band capable of 'The Grand Illusion', and they're putting their heads in the salad bowl?!! What the fuck made anyone think THAT was a good idea?

I love Tommy's take on that (and I think this interview was with Allan on Styxcollector.com). He said someting like, the powers that be at A&M had booked him an interview with Mike Stone in New York to talk about producing GWG the same day Styx was filming that in LA, and since his solo career was going to be on the same label, the guys said, "Hey, you're really shooting yourself in the foot with the record company if you refuse to appear". So he shot his part separately in NYC and they inserted it. When he showed up to the studio to do his part, they had the salad bowl set up, where he was supposed to stick his head up through the table through the dish, they were supposed to lift the cover and his head would be in the salad, and he said he would not do that. And they said, "Just let us shoot it so we can say we did, but we won't use it." LOL, and he said no, I don't think so. So his cameo is just him waving at the band, basically.


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Postby gr8dane » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:17 am

Who wrote Music Time ,anyways?
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Postby sadie65 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:54 am

I realize everyone's tastes are different, but I think to take the song or the video seriously is a mistake. I don't think it was ever intended to be a serious video. I just don't think it should be taken as anything other than silly fluff.

There are so many videos from that era that are worse. And yes, I realize that's my opinion.
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:37 am

bugsymalone wrote:
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Barbara wrote:I finally got my DVD in the mail the other week and watched it. After hearing you all talk about "Music Time". LOL. I was paying attention. Ha, ha. When I saw it, I remembered seeing it waaaay back when and it still brings out the same reaction. Laughing my ass off! It was funny/FUN then, and it is now!

This video has always appealed to me because it was such totally silly fun.


If you go back and look at videos made during that era, "Music Time" fits right in with some of those garish, cartoonish, crazy , out-there videos made in the 80's. I think particularly of the ones made by David Lee Roth. They were totally over the top and hilariously funny and fun. Bright colors that assaulted the senses and, of course, David Lee acting like an idiot, but completely in on the joke. I still enjoy watching them to this day and still laugh when I see them.

"Music Time" is quite in line with so many of those. I found it hilarious and got into the spirit of it for what it was -- a total departure for Styx, but really fun and funny with Dennis just throwing himself completely into that silly character.

Bugsy




I'm a big fan of DLR's 80's music and videos, particularly "California Girls" and "Just A Gigolo." "Music Time" I thought back then and still do now, was a weird video but I still dig the song :lol:



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Postby Rockwriter » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:41 am

sadie65 wrote:I realize everyone's tastes are different, but I think to take the song or the video seriously is a mistake. I don't think it was ever intended to be a serious video. I just don't think it should be taken as anything other than silly fluff.

There are so many videos from that era that are worse. And yes, I realize that's my opinion.



I'm sure there are far worse. In fact a lot of things come right to mind. I'm only comparing this to other Styx things. There are even things in their individual solo careers that I could readily say are far worse. For me, I look at this as a one-off, with everyone involved realizing it was a throwaway single attached to a live album. I think Dennis probably did not want to waste a "Desert Moon" on a throwaway, so he stuck this on instead, hoping the New wave element might help radio decide to play it and expose the live album. Just my opinion, but why waste "Desert Moon" or another, better song in that manner? He needed the better songs to help launch his impending solo career, and Tommy was long gone by that time. Thus we have "Music Time".

I hope all is well.


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Postby venomnation » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:07 pm

StyxCollector wrote:4. Gulf War "Show Me The Way"
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I don't Think that was official...I think it was inadvertently picked up by the gulf war but I recall it being just some guy who mixed in a bunch of sound clips...and I think dennis even acknowledges that on his double live symphonic cd..
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Postby StyxCollector » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:02 pm

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StyxCollector wrote:4. Gulf War "Show Me The Way"
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I don't Think that was official...I think it was inadvertently picked up by the gulf war but I recall it being just some guy who mixed in a bunch of sound clips...and I think dennis even acknowledges that on his double live symphonic cd..


Sorry, but it was. I have the original A&M promo reel to reel. It was just never released commercially.
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