Which Band Has More Drama - Journey or Van Halen?

by **ProgRocker53** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:25 pm

I think Van Halen and Journey are the two greatest Melodic Rock bands, no matter how you cut it all up...

Nearly every band in the genre has been influenced by one, or the other, or both.... and from what I've seen the two bands share a TON of fans.

Both have a lot of solid albums, a wide range of different material, zillions of albums sold and popularity that will last well into the ages.

They're the two biggest influences on my personal musical style, neither one more than the other... My main instrument is the bass and my buddy calls my style "throb 'n' bop"... MA inspired the "throb" and Ross gave me the "bop"...

My style owes alot to both bands.

by **7 Wishes** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:26 pm

I knew I could count on you, Kate. :lol:

Anyway, I've been accused of Loon-acy on more than one occasion. I'm still waiting for that "new music"!!!

by **Perrydise** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:29 pm

7 Wishes wrote:I knew I could count on you, Kate.

Anyway, I've been accused of Loon-acy on more than one occasion. I'm still waiting for that "new music"!!!

I am looking forward to hearing new music from all around. Certainly from "one" in particular. I keep believing but I think cows flying will happen first.

by **Voyager** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:38 pm

I think that Journey has suffered from LSD for many years, while Van Halen has suffered from a dual diagnosis of LGD and LSD. These have been the sources of some major drama throughout the years.

by **Voyager** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:40 pm

Oh, for the non-musician/non-groupie folks on the forum:

LSD = Lead Singer Disease

LGD = Lead Guitarist Disease

by **Vladan** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:42 pm

Rockindeano wrote:No way VH.

Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Thats the thing! because we care, we create more Drama. Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! ;-)

it's a good thing

by **Voyager** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:47 pm

Vladan wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:No way VH.

Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Thats the thing! because we care, we create more Drama. Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! it's a good thing

I don't think it's a coincidence that Steve Perry was one of the most passionate singers in rock music, with Neal Schon being one of the most passionate guitarists in the business. When those two made music together, it epitomized the meaning of the word passion. That magical combination drew a lot of passionate fans into their following.

by *Laura » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:55 pm

It's pretty hard to decide.As a Journey fan I am way more familiar (in a very detailed manner) with everything that Journey went through as a band and there sure was some nasty drama going on over the years.But maybe VH was/is a band with a more visible drama picture as seen from the outside (re-re-re-re-rehab,fights,even the recent events)...so from that point of view VH gets my vote.
Journey wins hands down for the hidden drama,tho. :wink:

As for the fanbase(s)...lol...Journey's should get a special award for the most drama filled fanbase of all times.

by **Moose** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:55 pm

Vladan wrote:Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! it's a good thing

You mean people on this site. This site does not represent the totality of Van Halen fans or Journey fans.

There is a huge contingent of narcissistic Journey fans on this site, though…no doubt.

by **7 Wishes** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:58 pm

Voyager wrote:I think that Journey has suffered from LSD for many years, while Van Halen has suffered from a dual diagnosis of LGD and LSD. These have been the sources of some major drama throughout the years.

With all due respect, I think the main issue with VH has always been Edward.

by **Moose** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:03 pm

7 Wishes wrote:With all due respect, I think the main issue with VH has always been Edward.

100% correct

by **Perrydise** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:04 pm

Moose wrote:
Vladan wrote:Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! it's a good thing

You mean people on this site. This site does not represent the totality of Van Halen fans or Journey fans.

There is a huge contingent of narcissistic Journey fans on this site, though…no doubt.

Yes but we are HAPPY narcissistic fans :lol:

by **Voyager** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:11 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
Voyager wrote:I think that Journey has suffered from LSD for many years, while Van Halen has suffered from a dual diagnosis of LGD and LSD. These have been the sources of some major drama throughout the years.

With all due respect, I think the main issue with VH has always been Edward.

I think you're right. But Dave did have a little LSD going back in the day.

by **Voyager** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:13 pm

Perrydise wrote:
Moose wrote:
Vladan wrote:Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! it's a good thing

You mean people on this site. This site does not represent the totality of Van Halen fans or Journey fans.

There is a huge contingent of narcissistic Journey fans on this site, though…no doubt.

Yes but we are HAPPY narcissistic fans

Yes, and we are much better-looking and smarter than the fans of any other band too.

:lol:

by **YoungJRNY** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:49 pm

lets fucking get real people. yes, you're going to have loony ass fans of anything that needs a fan base, Christ..it's called passion. Journey has been touring like fucking animals. Diamond Dave comes in and all of a sudden they are brothers again, and accounts for the most prolific returns of all, after 20 plus years..making this historical. Now, due to some shit that goes down back doors within the band, they cancel the show, and forever their seriousness. Maybe this is why Journey doesn't want to fuck around with Perry anymore. Too much to lose.

I don't know what happened, I just heard that they canceled right now. I'm pissed off because I had tickets in late March. Fuck does this suck my hairy testicles.

by **rdekker** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:17 pm

nolippin wrote:I think Van Halen. With Journey, most of the drama is amongst the fans.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

by **Moose** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:33 pm

Perrydise wrote:Yes but we are HAPPY narcissistic fans

uh...right. When I think of this board, HAPPY is the first thing that comes to mind. :lol:

by **Moose** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:36 pm

Voyager wrote:
Perrydise wrote:
Moose wrote:
Vladan wrote:Journey has more drama because people care. It's not a bad thing, just means we are more passionate and caring people! it's a good thing

You mean people on this site. This site does not represent the totality of Van Halen fans or Journey fans.

There is a huge contingent of narcissistic Journey fans on this site, though…no doubt.

Yes but we are HAPPY narcissistic fans

Yes, and we are much better-looking and smarter than the fans of any other band too.

by **Lady Luck** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:50 pm

nolippin wrote:I think Van Halen. With Journey, most of the drama is amongst the fans.

Ya think?

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:54 am

For a recovering boozeaholic being run into and out of a rehab in such a whirlwind fashion then being thrust right out onto the road for a mega tour had to be...challenging.

If it's a relapse, I'm frankly surprised it took this long.

the hearing issue's a different animal, but my fantasy hope would be that they pull the plug officially on the tour, Edward gets good and really dried out, and then goes to the less spotlit environment of 5150 with the band and creates the promised VH album.

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:08 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Yeah, but at least most fans walking into a VH concert know who the hell is singing on a given night.

by **conversationpc** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:22 am

JrnySuxBalls wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Yeah, but at least most fans walking into a VH concert know who the hell is singing on a given night.

VH has had three different lead singers over the years, so it's not like they've been all that stable in that department, either, you know?

by **maverick218** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:30 am

I would say at the moment, VH

by **mistiejourney** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:42 am

JrnySuxBalls wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Yeah, but at least most fans walking into a VH concert know who the hell is singing on a given night.

Whoa - hard to argue with that! :shock:

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:01 am

conversationpc wrote:
JrnySuxBalls wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Yeah, but at least most fans walking into a VH concert know who the hell is singing on a given night.

VH has had three different lead singers over the years, so it's not like they've been all that stable in that department, either, you know?

Davey boy, Davey boy.
Tsk.
Details, details.

Why let them get in the way of a good Journey bash?

by **ProgRocker53** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:27 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JrnySuxBalls wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Journey has fans that actually care and give a shit. Journey fan has soul.passion and character. Even if we don't ever agree, we all share a common goal and steel....we all care and we all give a damn.

Yeah, but at least most fans walking into a VH concert know who the hell is singing on a given night.

VH has had three different lead singers over the years, so it's not like they've been all that stable in that department, either, you know?

Davey boy, Davey boy.
Tsk.
Details, details.

Why let them get in the way of a good Journey bash?

If you guys wanna get technical, Van Halen has had four lead singers... the name Mitch Malloy ring a bell?

At least Journey fans can walk into a show knowing that their lead guitarist will be able to sustain a solid performance. :wink:

by **conversationpc** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:35 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:If you guys wanna get technical, Van Halen has had four lead singers... the name Mitch Malloy ring a bell?

At least Journey fans can walk into a show knowing that their lead guitarist will be able to sustain a solid performance.

OK...I'll play both sides of this argument...How about if we count all band members...This is counting Malloy and leaving out Chalfant even though he seems to have been temporarily with the guys...

Journey members:
Neal Schon
Gregg Rolie
Ross Valory
Prairie Prince
George Tickner
Aynsley Dunbar
Robert Fleischman
Steve Perry
Steve Smith
Jonathan Cain
Randy Jackson
Mike Baird
Steve Augeri
Deen Castronovo
Jeff Scott Soto
Arnel Pineda

Van Halen:
Eddie Van Halen
Alex Van Halen
Michael Anthony
David Lee Roth
Sammy Hagar
Mitch Malloy
Gary Cherone
Wolfgang Van Halen

by **ProgRocker53** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:38 am

Hahaha don't forget Larrie Londin and Bob Glaub for Journey, and Gary Cherone for VH.

by **Ratgirl** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:51 am

Van Halen.. only because they more publicized than Journey.

by **conversationpc** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:02 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:Hahaha don't forget Larrie Londin and Bob Glaub for Journey, and Gary Cherone for VH.

Larrie Londin was just a studio guy, right? I don't remember anything about Bob Glaub but I did add Cherone to that list.

MR

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