Which Band Has More Drama - Journey or Van Halen?

[Saint John]

The only hearing problem Eddie Van Halen has are the little voices saying "Don't be an asshole" that he can't seem to hear.

[lowdbrent]

Good question. Aren't hearing aids sophisticated enough to resolve much of the hearing issues????

Having close encounters with the fan base from both bands - JOURNEY wins!

No way! At least Journey's musicians are professional enough not to push amp cabinets over on each other during a show... haha! And Eddie's alcholism... nothing close to that in Journey, or nothing that is known anyway.

Come on. Journey is no stranger to addictions of many sorts.

I would point to hundreds of shows by legacy artists where guitars were trashed, amps were trashed, members were trashed. Eddie is deaf it seems and it is frustrating him. Check out how he has moved from his side of the stage to be in front of the drums and next to the bass. He is obviously trying to stay in the groove. As far as pushing over amps....who cares? They are his. Let him.

Maybe I'm missing something here. If Ed's hearing is that bad, why weren't measures taken BEFORE the tour started? Just curious!

I think in-ear monitors are good enough to overcome most hearing loss, unless you're absolutely tone deaf.

No they are not. Completely different form and function. IEMs are designed to operate like a headphone or earbud. They are designed for linear response. A hearing instrument's response is custom tailored to the response of the ear. So, the hearing device gets the ear as close to normal as it can. Most IEM transducers could not handle 40 to 60 dB boosts at 4kHz. They are not designed to.

Tone deafness has nothing to do with hearing loss. You can be tone deaf, that is unable to sing to pitch, and have normal hearing. The opposite is true. You can have perfect pitch and severe shifts in the hearing threshold.

[lowdbrent]

I know who Mitch Malloy is but had no clue he was a VH singer at one point, when was that & for how long?

They recorded some tunes at 5150. He was offered the gig, but turned it down at the last minute. Management might have also had something to do with it. The new management was connected to Gary C.

[Melissa]

I know who Mitch Malloy is but had no clue he was a VH singer at one point, when was that & for how long?

They recorded some tunes at 5150. He was offered the gig, but turned it down at the last minute. Management might have also had something to do with it. The new management was connected to Gary C.

Wow, didn't know about that. Learn something new here all the time, thanks for the info

[squirt1]

Progrocker- Another long suffering Bengals fan is here ! Once Mikey Boy took over from Paul Brown this team is run by banking decisions. They need players on both sides of the ball. Oh, congratulations to Carl with Rothlisberger's long term contract ! I am glad he didn't have a brain injury or broken bones in the motorcycle accident. He reminds me somewhat of Marino. Prog what city/suburb do you live? OH IND KY ? I have to say regarding Journey- It was huge in the late 70's-80's- and 90's. It is now a shadow of itself, but Jeff added a professional spark. Oh well !

[journeypower]

Arnel still sucks.

Arnel's no Steve Perry, but he doesn't suck at all.

That's not just an opinion, that's just... dumb.

Dumb? We are talking about a fucking singer. One who is clearly overmatched with the hand he has been dealt. If you don't agree, that doesn't make my remark dumb.

It's ridiculous to say Arnel "sucks" when he's superior to 75% of the rock singers on the planet. Why else would he be fronting Journey?

Saying he's not a good fit for Journey, fine, saying you don't like his voice, dandy, but saying that he sucks? C'mon man.

Sorry no offense, but the more I listen to that Chile concert, I feel he sucks. I am as open minded as anyone on this topic. I won't back down because my opinion might be in the minority.

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

[Rick]

Arnel still sucks.

Arnel's no Steve Perry, but he doesn't suck at all.

That's not just an opinion, that's just... dumb.

Dumb? We are talking about a fucking singer. One who is clearly overmatched with the hand he has been dealt. If you don't agree, that doesn't make my remark dumb.

It's ridiculous to say Arnel "sucks" when he's superior to 75% of the rock singers on the planet. Why else would he be fronting Journey?

Saying he's not a good fit for Journey, fine, saying you don't like his voice, dandy, but saying that he sucks? C'mon man.

Sorry no offense, but the more I listen to that Chile concert, I feel he sucks. I am as open minded as anyone on this topic. I won't back down because my opinion might be in the minority.

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

It's evident that you've not been on the Journey forum at MR long. Very few threads here stay on topic. It's an all skate in the regular direction here.

Welcome, by the way.

[Moose]

Arnel still sucks.

Arnel's no Steve Perry, but he doesn't suck at all.

That's not just an opinion, that's just... dumb.

Dumb? We are talking about a fucking singer. One who is clearly overmatched with the hand he has been dealt. If you don't agree, that doesn't make my remark dumb.

It's ridiculous to say Arnel "sucks" when he's superior to 75% of the rock singers on the planet. Why else would he be fronting Journey?

Saying he's not a good fit for Journey, fine, saying you don't like his voice, dandy, but saying that he sucks? C'mon man.

Sorry no offense, but the more I listen to that Chile concert, I feel he sucks. I am as open minded as anyone on this topic. I won't back down because my opinion might be in the minority.

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

It's evident that you've not been on the Journey forum at MR long. Very few threads here stay on topic. It's an all skate in the regular direction here.

Welcome, by the way.

Thanks Rick...

[Rick]

Arnel still sucks.

Arnel's no Steve Perry, but he doesn't suck at all.

That's not just an opinion, that's just... dumb.

Dumb? We are talking about a fucking singer. One who is clearly overmatched with the hand he has been dealt. If you don't agree, that doesn't make my remark dumb.

It's ridiculous to say Arnel "sucks" when he's superior to 75% of the rock singers on the planet. Why else would he be fronting Journey?

Saying he's not a good fit for Journey, fine, saying you don't like his voice, dandy, but saying that he sucks? C'mon man.

Sorry no offense, but the more I listen to that Chile concert, I feel he sucks. I am as open minded as anyone on this topic. I won't back down because my opinion might be in the minority.

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

It's evident that you've not been on the Journey forum at MR long. Very few threads here stay on topic. It's an all skate in the regular direction here.

Welcome, by the way.

Thanks Rick...

You're my bud, even if you.... well, you know.

[Moose]

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

Hmmmmmm. Let me get this straight. You have posted here 13 times, and you are dictating rules to me?

I think not Sparky. I know very well what the thread is about. If I randomly wish to offer my opinion on something, then that is exactly what I will do.

I will be as smart, or unintelligent, as I wish to be.

Frankly speaking, I have a four letter word for you. It rhymes with suck and is followed by the word “you”.

Now go play in traffic or something. Comprende?

[Rick]

I think not Sparky.

[journeypower]

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

Hmmmmmm. Let me get this straight. You have posted here 13 times, and you are dictating rules to me?

I think not Sparky. I know very well what the thread is about. If I randomly wish to offer my opinion on something, then that is exactly what I will do.

I will be as smart, or unintelligent, as I wish to be.

Frankly speaking, I have a four letter word for you. It rhymes with suck and is followed by the word “you”.

Now go play in traffic or something. Comprende?

the number of posts does not make the person, it's what the content matters. a 1 single post could mean a lot compared to a 100 or more BS post that you could muster from the day that you ever existed. and I assume that you prefer to be unintelligent. thanks for clearing that up for me. don't worry, I comprende and I thank you for your concern on doing my thing. on second thought, are you by any chance dictating what I should do? oh the irony. here is a person (you) who hates being dictated while he on the otherhand likes to dictate others as well. very funny indeed. I gotta go now, you just made my day and thank you for the good laugh. ROFLMAO !

[Rick]

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

Hmmmmmm. Let me get this straight. You have posted here 13 times, and you are dictating rules to me?

I think not Sparky. I know very well what the thread is about. If I randomly wish to offer my opinion on something, then that is exactly what I will do.

I will be as smart, or unintelligent, as I wish to be.

Frankly speaking, I have a four letter word for you. It rhymes with suck and is followed by the word “you”.

Now go play in traffic or something. Comprende?

the number of posts does not make the person, it's what the content matters. a 1 single post could mean a lot compared to a 100 or more BS post that you could muster from the day that you ever existed. and I assume that you prefer to be unintelligent. thanks for clearing that up for me. don't worry, I comprende and I thank you for your concern on doing my thing. on second thought, are you by any chance dictating what I should do? oh the irony. here is a person (you) who hates being dictated while he on the otherhand likes to dictate others as well. very funny indeed. I gotta go now, you just made my day and thank you for the good laugh. ROFLMAO !

You're a sarcastic fucker ain't ya? Here, take two of these, they're small and effective, they're called chill pills. Might better take three.

[Moose]

the number of posts does not make the person, it's what the content matters. a 1 single post could mean a lot compared to a 100 or more BS post that you could muster from the day that you ever existed. and I assume that you prefer to be unintelligent. thanks for clearing that up for me. don't worry, I comprende and I thank you for your concern on doing my thing. on second thought, are you by any chance dictating what I should do? oh the irony. here is a person (you) who hates being dictated while he on the otherhand likes to dictate others as well. very funny indeed. I gotta go now, you just made my day and thank you for the good laugh. ROFLMAO !

It is the content that matters. Good job. Very enlightening. I’ll remember that, or maybe I won’t.

Are you going to pay your bills with the content you are offering? Didn’t think so, Jr. I am surprised you could even spell unintelligent. Again, good job.

By the way, it would be “comprendo” for someone who is speaking in the first person. Just saying.

On third thought, if I choose to dictate to you, then dictate I shall! No irony here, champ. I don’t hate being dictated to. It can be fun. Just know your role before running your mouth. You started with me. Remember that.

After you are ROFLMYO, go take some Prozac and be sure to come back soon.

Smooches

[Moose]

frankly speaking, you're way off-topic. the thread is a poll about which band (Journey or VH) has more drama and not asking your personal ranting about Journey's present singer. stating your so-called opinion about the singer is just plain dumb. if you refuse to back down on this sensible argument, then the 4-letter word really does suit you. if you have something against the singer, then I suggest you start a thread of how that singer sux bigtime and see how people here would react to your thread. atleast you won't be off-topic anymore. be smart, dude.

Hmmmmmm. Let me get this straight. You have posted here 13 times, and you are dictating rules to me?

I think not Sparky. I know very well what the thread is about. If I randomly wish to offer my opinion on something, then that is exactly what I will do.

I will be as smart, or unintelligent, as I wish to be.

Frankly speaking, I have a four letter word for you. It rhymes with suck and is followed by the word “you”.

Now go play in traffic or something. Comprende?

the number of posts does not make the person, it's what the content matters. a 1 single post could mean a lot compared to a 100 or more BS post that you could muster from the day that you ever existed. and I assume that you prefer to be unintelligent. thanks for clearing that up for me. don't worry, I comprende and I thank you for your concern on doing my thing. on second thought, are you by any chance dictating what I should do? oh the irony. here is a person (you) who hates being dictated while he on the otherhand likes to dictate others as well. very funny indeed. I gotta go now, you just made my day and thank you for the good laugh. ROFLMAO !

You're a sarcastic fucker ain't ya? Here, take two of these, they're small and effective, they're called chill pills. Might better take three.

Oh hell, take the whole bottle.

[Moose]

the number of posts does not make the person, it's what the content matters. a 1 single post could mean a lot compared to a 100 or more BS post that you could muster from the day that you ever existed. and I assume that you prefer to be unintelligent. thanks for clearing that up for me. don't worry, I comprende and I thank you for your concern on doing my thing. on second thought, are you by any chance dictating what I should do? oh the irony. here is a person (you) who hates being dictated while he on the otherhand likes to dictate others as well. very funny indeed. I gotta go now, you just made my day and thank you for the good laugh. ROFLMAO !

By the way, if you actually are Neal, I think you guys sound tight as a band. As always. But Arnel....

[T-Bone]

journeypower, it would be better for you to lay low and get a better feel for this messageboard before you go ruff'lin any more feathers People who come to a board only to ruffle feathers get themselves a "Troll" label rather quickly....

[Red13JoePa]

I think not Sparky.

LOL