OT: Impeach Vermont

[RockitRide]

Regarding the earlier topic regarding Vermont, I live 40 minutes from the Peoples Republic of Vermont, the only state with an avowed socialist representing them in Congress, and (gee whizz...) it just so happens he votes with the Democrats. I was a Democrat for many years so there is no need to try to convince me otherwise about the failed socialist crap these people have been peddeling for decades. I have seen it first hand from the inside and that is why I made the switch. The Moonbats on this site should stick to Journey topics.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by: -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by: -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

[Rockindeano]

Blah blah blah.

The Green Mountain State is beautiful. So what it is politically different? Hawaii is far different than Texas as California is from Nebraska.

It's still the United States.

PS- There are many cities in the USA which have adopted a Bush/Cheney impeachment draft.

[lights1961]

Blah blah blah.

The Green Mountain State is beautiful. So what it is politically different? Hawaii is far different than Texas as California is from Nebraska.

It's still the United States.

PS- There are many cities in the USA which have adopted a Bush/Cheney impeachment draft.

just stop the state or towns funding for wasting tax payer money on the issue.

QUESTION, when the iraq war is declared won by Hillary sometime in 2009, will Bush get any credit???





Rick

[Wally_Hatchet]

For those haters who say that Bush lied about WMD's, this proves you wrong.
The Iraq invasion was caused by one person - Saddam Hussein:


Saturday, January 26, 2008

NEW YORK — Saddam Hussein allowed the world to believe he had weapons of mass destruction to deter rival Iran and did not think the United States would stage a major invasion, according to an FBI interrogator who questioned the Iraqi leader after his capture.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325785,00.html

[brywool]

For those haters who say that Bush lied about WMD's, this proves you wrong.
The Iraq invasion was caused by one person - Saddam Hussein:


Saturday, January 26, 2008

NEW YORK — Saddam Hussein allowed the world to believe he had weapons of mass destruction to deter rival Iran and did not think the United States would stage a major invasion, according to an FBI interrogator who questioned the Iraqi leader after his capture.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325785,00.html

Making the world THINK they have them and actually HAVING them are totally different. We had investigators over there and they said 'there are no wmd's here'. Those people were all over the media at the time we went to war. I remember one guy who was one of the lead investigators being on The Daily Show saying it. He was also on 60 Minutes. There was also that bs about uranium that Bush said in his state of the union-- Sorry, but the guy and his administration COMPLETELY lied to the American public. Collin Powell had enough of it and bailed. Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false. Yet, where's Bin Ladden? Who the F knows, that's where, thanks George!

Now, having said that, the comment about Hilary declaring victory in 2009 is totally correct. That's the way it will probably go down if she wins.

(2 phrases that should never be in the same sentence "Hilary Clinton" and "go down")

[conversationpc]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

[Behshad]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

Dave, youre never wrong,,,(in your own little world that is )

[Tomulator]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

Thank you for actually paying attention to the facts and stating the truth about the above statement.

It's actually refreshing...

[Rockindeano]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

If you include that evil asswipe Dick Fucking Cheney as a member of the Administration, then yes, he has repeatedly linked Saddam, and 9/11.


Hey, no biggie, when Joe is sent to Nigeria to see if there is any yellowcake, and finds none to be had, and reports as such, just out his wife's identity.

It's all so hilarious.

We lost the fucking Iraqi War folks. "Winning" that war would have been done 5 years ago. Oh, excuse me, we already "Accomplished our Mission." Sorry, but I don't think the 3,000 US soldiers who died since that aircraft carrier stunt got that memo.

[conversationpc]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

Dave, youre never wrong,,,(in your own little world that is )

Quit being an ass. If I agreed with you politically, you'd be singing a different tune.

Let me ask you this...Have you ever posted something like this towards Ohsherrie with some of the outrageous things she's said on this forum?

[conversationpc]

If you include that evil asswipe Dick Fucking Cheney as a member of the Administration, then yes, he has repeatedly linked Saddam, and 9/11.

Quotes, please?

[Voyager]

For those haters who say that Bush lied about WMD's, this proves you wrong.
The Iraq invasion was caused by one person - Saddam Hussein:


Saturday, January 26, 2008

NEW YORK — Saddam Hussein allowed the world to believe he had weapons of mass destruction to deter rival Iran and did not think the United States would stage a major invasion, according to an FBI interrogator who questioned the Iraqi leader after his capture.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325785,00.html

What if the headline would have said this instead:

NEW YORK — Chinese President Hu Jintao allowed the world to believe that China had weapons of mass destruction to deter rival India and did not think the United States would stage a major invasion.

Would we have invaded China on these same grounds? Hell no!

[ohsherrie]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

[Behshad]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

Dave, youre never wrong,,,(in your own little world that is )

Quit being an ass. If I agreed with you politically, you'd be singing a different tune.

Let me ask you this...Have you ever posted something like this towards Ohsherrie with some of the outrageous things she's said on this forum?

Dude,, Im not being an ass,,,,, chill out , geez,,,, this has nothing to do with you agreeing with me or not.....
I was just stating the fact that you always think youre always right. If it makes you feel any better, I always think Im always right too.

Dont bring others in this,,, be a man and take it as it is

[brywool]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

I stand corrected. But linking Hussein to Al Queda and then linking THEM to 9/11 (usually in the same sentence if you watch) is the same thing, is it not? - 70% of the US believe that Hussein was directly responsible for 9/11. WHERE would they get that idea if not from our own leader?

The guy wanted to bomb Iraq, so he tied Hussein to it. Not directly, but nearly every time there's a mention of one, there's the other.

Hussein was NOT a threat to the US. While Bush didn't say that, some of his administration did.

"The administration has succeeded in creating a sense that there is some connection [between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein]," says Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

Basically, Bush implied it every chance he got.

[Eric]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

[RossValoryRocks]

Bush also tried to tie Hussein into 9/11 which has been proven time and time again to be completely false.

The administration said there was a link between Saddam and AL QAEDA, not 9/11. If I'm wrong, please point me in the right direction.

I stand corrected. But linking Hussein to Al Queda and then linking THEM to 9/11 (usually in the same sentence if you watch) is the same thing, is it not? - 70% of the US believe that Hussein was directly responsible for 9/11. WHERE would they get that idea if not from our own leader?

The guy wanted to bomb Iraq, so he tied Hussein to it. Not directly, but nearly every time there's a mention of one, there's the other.

Hussein was NOT a threat to the US. While Bush didn't say that, some of his administration did.

"The administration has succeeded in creating a sense that there is some connection [between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein]," says Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

Basically, Bush implied it every chance he got.

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

The nex time this country is attacked we lose a city...not a couple of sky scrapers.

He gambled...he lost.

[Voyager]

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

Which WMD's are you referring to - the ones that we never found?

[Rockindeano]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

You're not joking. Maybe we should be proactive and read the FUCKING SECURITY BRIEFS!!!! And when we are attacked, perhaps there is a better way to REACT than sitting in a classroom in Florida, dumbstruck, for SEVEN minutes.

[brywool]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

We can't just go bombing people because of what they MIGHT do. You can't do that. Iraq was NOT a threat to the US at any time.

[brywool]

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

The nex time this country is attacked we lose a city...not a couple of sky scrapers.

He gambled...he lost.

It was proven... he had no WMDs to give anybody...

[conversationpc]

Dude,, Im not being an ass,,,,, chill out , geez,,,, this has nothing to do with you agreeing with me or not.....
I was just stating the fact that you always think youre always right. If it makes you feel any better, I always think Im always right too.

Dont bring others in this,,, be a man and take it as it is

Fair enough...You don't want me to take it up the ass, do you?

[RossValoryRocks]

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

Which WMD's are you referring to - the ones that we never found?

He said he had them...if you read the first post in this thread, even your precious Bill Clinton and Democratic senators said he had them.

British, German, French and Russian intelligence at the time said he had them.

It was only AFTER the fact that all you libs started crying foul.

[Rockindeano]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

We can't just go bombing people because of what they MIGHT do. You can't do that. Iraq was NOT a threat to the US at any time.

Ironically, Iraq was NEVER a threat to us, but now is a much more complex animal and is much more dangerous to us and the entire world.

Congratulations republicans, you have fucked up the entire world.

[conversationpc]

I stand corrected. But linking Hussein to Al Queda and then linking THEM to 9/11 (usually in the same sentence if you watch) is the same thing, is it not? - 70% of the US believe that Hussein was directly responsible for 9/11. WHERE would they get that idea if not from our own leader?

The guy wanted to bomb Iraq, so he tied Hussein to it. Not directly, but nearly every time there's a mention of one, there's the other.

Hussein was NOT a threat to the US. While Bush didn't say that, some of his administration did.

"The administration has succeeded in creating a sense that there is some connection [between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein]," says Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

Basically, Bush implied it every chance he got.

I think most people initially thought Iraq and what happened on 9/11 were related whether or not the Bush administration implied the connection or not. I never had that idea in mind but I know lots of people did with or without any outside help.

[RossValoryRocks]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

We can't just go bombing people because of what they MIGHT do. You can't do that. Iraq was NOT a threat to the US at any time.

Sure we can. We did.

Again...look at everything the Clinton's and democratic leadership had to say in the first post in the thread.

Oh wait...you like them...they must have just been mistaken?!

[Rockindeano]

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

Which WMD's are you referring to - the ones that we never found?

He said he had them...if you read the first post in this thread, even your precious Bill Clinton and Democratic senators said he had them.

British, German, French and Russian intelligence at the time said he had them.

It was only AFTER the fact that all you libs started crying foul.

You act as if you are degrading the opposing view by calling us "Libs." I would much rather be called a thinking Liberal that a dumbshit Conservative.

[jrnyfan74]

Regarding the earlier topic regarding Vermont, I live 40 minutes from the Peoples Republic of Vermont, the only state with an avowed socialist representing them in Congress, and (gee whizz...) it just so happens he votes with the Democrats. I was a Democrat for many years so there is no need to try to convince me otherwise about the failed socialist crap these people have been peddeling for decades. I have seen it first hand from the inside and that is why I made the switch. The Moonbats on this site should stick to Journey topics.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by: -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by: -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Great post...we need more people with a little common sense up north.

[RossValoryRocks]

Every time Bush brought up 9/11 in his speeches defending this Iraq fiasco he was linking them.

After 9-11...we need to be proactive.

We can't just go bombing people because of what they MIGHT do. You can't do that. Iraq was NOT a threat to the US at any time.

Ironically, Iraq was NEVER a threat to us, but now is a much more complex animal and is much more dangerous to us and the entire world.

Congratulations republicans, you have fucked up the entire world.

So wait...Bill Clinton was wrong then??? Hillary, Kerry et al, we all off their rockers too? Or do you only attack people you disagree philosophically with?

[brywool]

If you think for one second that Hussien would't have given WMD's to terrorist you are nuts. He would have done it in a heartbeat.

Which WMD's are you referring to - the ones that we never found?

He said he had them...if you read the first post in this thread, even your precious Bill Clinton and Democratic senators said he had them.

British, German, French and Russian intelligence at the time said he had them.

It was only AFTER the fact that all you libs started crying foul.

Um, no... It was after our own investigators were saying we didn't have them.
By the way, without "libs" you'd still have slavery and Viet Nam dude.

British intelligence said it because we did. German and French, I thought they were against us going in? I was always against us going in btw. Funny, everybody gave the French and Germans such a hard time. They were right. Dang, Freedom Fries were so good...