If Steve Perry would share his opinion publicly....

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Postby Rhiannon » Thu May 29, 2008 8:14 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:DUDE. I had a dream the other night that Captain Friga DID have a tea party. I was there, and Dean, and Jeremey, and Andrew, and randomly enough weatherman90 was there.

Surreal.

Coincidence? I think not!


Sounds like a sweet tea party, bitches. :)
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu May 29, 2008 8:15 am

I was totally impressed with the energy and enthusiasm Arnel threw out there.
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Postby journeypower » Thu May 29, 2008 8:16 am

Rhiannon wrote:Perry doesn't have an opinion. He is a cyborg incapable of thought beyond his programming... which consists of scales and feathered bangs.


Does it come with mayonnaise? :roll:
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Postby Pelata » Thu May 29, 2008 8:17 am

ScarabGator wrote:I was totally impressed with the energy and enthusiasm Arnel threw out there.


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Postby ProgRocker53 » Thu May 29, 2008 8:18 am

Rhiannon wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:DUDE. I had a dream the other night that Captain Friga DID have a tea party. I was there, and Dean, and Jeremey, and Andrew, and randomly enough weatherman90 was there.

Surreal.

Coincidence? I think not!


Sounds like a sweet tea party, bitches. :)


I think weatherman90 was wearing a frock.

And Andrew threw a hissy fit about there being too much sugar in his tea. That was followed by Dean calling him "sugar" and then I can't remember much from there.
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu May 29, 2008 8:19 am

Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:I was totally impressed with the energy and enthusiasm Arnel threw out there.


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very funny man.
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Postby Pelata » Thu May 29, 2008 8:21 am

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ScarabGator wrote:I was totally impressed with the energy and enthusiasm Arnel threw out there.


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very funny man.


Hey man...energy & enthusiasm! :lol:


I'm just messing around, bro...no biggie. If people are content to simply enjoy the music and not nit-pick it to death (like me, admittedly), then more power to 'em and have a great time!

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Postby ScarabGator » Thu May 29, 2008 8:23 am

Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:I was totally impressed with the energy and enthusiasm Arnel threw out there.


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very funny man.


Hey man...energy & enthusiasm! :lol:


I'm just messing around, bro...no biggie. If people are content to simply enjoy the music and not nit-pick it to death (like me, admittedly), then more power to 'em and have a great time!

:D


I know man!!!! No sweat off my back! You are alright in my book and I respect your opinion! :D
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Postby Pelata » Thu May 29, 2008 8:26 am

:mrgreen: Rock on!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu May 29, 2008 9:35 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
Pelata wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
And judging from the Ellen clips, Arnel can't quite hit a bunch of them either..


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Whatever, bro...Arnel was out of pitch all over those Ellen performances...


No offense YoungJRNY, I like ya bro, but I'd take the opinion of a professional vocalist over yours any day. ;)


I'm usually a smart ass, but how can you argue that one? haha Still you don't have to be a professional vocalist to hear what you like even if it's having to disagree with others :wink: 8) :P

PS- I like you too Prog you goofy bastard :lol: :lol: 8)
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Postby Granny » Thu May 29, 2008 11:08 am

He comes the old LOON with her own opinion......

Journey without Perry Or JSS isn't Journey at all....

Heard them today and from my unprofessional ears, Arnel was flat and off pitch...

Glad I opted for JSS instead of Journey in CA...

I will buy the new CD cuz I like Journey music and I am curious....
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu May 29, 2008 11:18 am

Granny wrote: Journey without Perry Or JSS isn't Journey at all....

Yeah, Journey and JSS are as synonomous as Journey and Perry. :roll:
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Postby Greg » Thu May 29, 2008 11:30 am

ScarabGator wrote:
Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Perry will never admit to anything. He knows Arnel is hitting notes that he cannot. Hes probably bitter.


:lol: That's rich...

Perry is 20 years older than Arnel...of course he can't hit those notes in standard tuning.

And judging from the Ellen clips, Arnel can't quite hit a bunch of them either... 8)


shit man, at the end of Separate Ways Arnel hit a note that Perry couldnt hit today if his balls were caught in a steel trap.


Even though it was the wrong the note..eh?
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Postby scarygirl » Thu May 29, 2008 12:05 pm

ScarabGator wrote:
Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Perry will never admit to anything. He knows Arnel is hitting notes that he cannot. Hes probably bitter.


:lol: That's rich...

Perry is 20 years older than Arnel...of course he can't hit those notes in standard tuning.

And judging from the Ellen clips, Arnel can't quite hit a bunch of them either... 8)


shit man, at the end of Separate Ways Arnel hit a note that Perry couldnt hit today if his balls were caught in a steel trap.


Sorry I disagree. He copied Steve on that end note. If memory serves me correct he hit it on Greatest Hits live, and it literally levitated you. I don't give a rat's ass what notes Steve can or cannot hit. With Steve it's always been about the experience.

STEVE'S NEW ALBUM WILL TOTALLY ROCK. I'm claiming it.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu May 29, 2008 12:38 pm

Saint John wrote:He's heard Augeri, he's heard Soto and I'm sure he's heard Arnel, but he'll never admit it. Part of his macho "I'm over being in Journey" posturing. Too bad everything he does behind the scenes and vicariously tells us otherwise.


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What, you mean posturing like the recent GO article where he goes "they've had a few different guys now but I haven't heard any of them" after referring to Augeri as "A soundalike or whatever he is" following his snub of Augeri at the walk of fame?
You've heard him or haven't, which is it?

PS my guess is that IF he weighed in truthfully, he'd say that Augeri was a workmanlike decent approximation, Castronovo a truer one and Pineda (and Hunsicker) the closest yet. I like all the aforementioned singers (with Augeri's performance on Generations being the centerpiece so far) and it's nothing perry didn't try to do with his bands on his applaudable and very listenable ST and FTLOSM records.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Thu May 29, 2008 12:54 pm

Pelata wrote:But there seems to be a bad case of "Journey goggles" around here sometimes...like everyone's just happy to have someone singing that wrong notes and clumsy phrasing is allowed just because "IT'S JURNEEEEEE!!!!" *faints*


OK Pelata...so who do you think can do better than Arnel right now? You seem to get off on pointing out to us every friggin nitpicking flaw you can find wrong with this guy. For cripe sakes, so he was a little pitchy on a couple of fucking notes...who cares...Arnel is an amazing vocalist, you can not deny that. But if you indeed ARE a vocalist, then you'd KNOW that. :?
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Postby Arkansas » Thu May 29, 2008 2:39 pm

Who friggin cares what Perry thinks or does any more?

He's never once truly given a healthy dump about anyone but himself, and now he's too old and no long prime-voiced to do anything about it. He wrote all of us fans off long ago, and it's high time we did the same to him.

Good goddamned riddance already...


later~
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Postby Memorex » Thu May 29, 2008 2:50 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
Saint John wrote:He's heard Augeri, he's heard Soto and I'm sure he's heard Arnel, but he'll never admit it. Part of his macho "I'm over being in Journey" posturing. Too bad everything he does behind the scenes and vicariously tells us otherwise.


:lol:
What, you mean posturing like the recent GO article where he goes "they've had a few different guys now but I haven't heard any of them" after referring to Augeri as "A soundalike or whatever he is" following his snub of Augeri at the walk of fame?
You've heard him or haven't, which is it?

PS my guess is that IF he weighed in truthfully, he'd say that Augeri was a workmanlike decent approximation, Castronovo a truer one and Pineda (and Hunsicker) the closest yet. I like all the aforementioned singers (with Augeri's performance on Generations being the centerpiece so far) and it's nothing perry didn't try to do with his bands on his applaudable and very listenable ST and FTLOSM records.


Here's a thought - who gives a shit?

What I would really like is for the two of you to get your dicks out of each other’s asses so you can lighten up. Joe Pa - I've never respected your opinions as they are sadly slanted with absolutely no basis. Your arguments are quite pathetic, to be honest. Saint John, you have just simply become a total prick these past months. Not sure what happened to you, unless it is truly something lodged in your ass. I'll be honest - your posts are contributing to the decline of this board. It's like you are being confrontational just to be confrontational. Did Perry run over your foot or something?

It's so funny how either of you think you have any basis to question the truthfulness of someone you do not know.

And here is the most laughable thing of all. Outside of Behind the Music and a quip on Rockline, Perry’s comments about a tour or recording or whatever have been relayed in very small circles. Do you think Steve Perry, an obviously decent businessman, thinks that his comment about maybe touring or maybe recording will affect the sales numbers of some Journey album? I mean, come on. Let common sense rule here.

Hey Susie, I was going to buy the new Journey album in 2 months, but I just heard a rumor that Steve Perry is maybe thinking of starting to see if his voice has something to offer, which may turn in to a album down the road. So maybe I should hold off buying that Journey album.

If that’s the people that Journey is counting on as fans to buy their product, God help them!
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Postby Memorex » Thu May 29, 2008 2:58 pm

Arkansas wrote:Who friggin cares what Perry thinks or does any more?

He's never once truly given a healthy dump about anyone but himself, and now he's too old and no long prime-voiced to do anything about it. He wrote all of us fans off long ago, and it's high time we did the same to him.

Good goddamned riddance already...


later~


How is retiring writing off fans? Can't wait to hear your answer. The man gave an awful lot of his life for his fans, and continues to do so here and there. Wouldn't a true fan, or just a simple human, wish someone well in their later years? Did Perry not pay you back for a loan or something?
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Postby walkslikealady » Thu May 29, 2008 6:04 pm

DrFU wrote:C'mon folks; this is a no-win deal for SP. If he says, "The guy sucks," everyone goes crazy with "oooooh, sour grapes, what a bitter old dude." If he says, "The guy sounds great," everyone says, "That's pathetic; did he just give up on his own dreams? I bet he really thinks the guys sucks and is lying..."

He's taking the high road with "don't know, haven't listened to him (them); not my business."



And I bet some people think when he does this ..."the guy's a liar".
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Postby yulog » Thu May 29, 2008 6:15 pm

Granny wrote:He comes the old LOON with her own opinion......

Journey without Perry Or JSS isn't Journey at all....

Heard them today and from my unprofessional ears, Arnel was flat and off pitch...

Glad I opted for JSS instead of Journey in CA...

I will buy the new CD cuz I like Journey music and I am curious....



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Postby walkslikealady » Thu May 29, 2008 6:45 pm

O.T. Anyone who'd do that to a cat is just sick!
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Postby Pelata » Thu May 29, 2008 9:41 pm

jrnyjetster wrote:
Pelata wrote:But there seems to be a bad case of "Journey goggles" around here sometimes...like everyone's just happy to have someone singing that wrong notes and clumsy phrasing is allowed just because "IT'S JURNEEEEEE!!!!" *faints*


OK Pelata...so who do you think can do better than Arnel right now? You seem to get off on pointing out to us every friggin nitpicking flaw you can find wrong with this guy. For cripe sakes, so he was a little pitchy on a couple of fucking notes...who cares...Arnel is an amazing vocalist, you can not deny that. But if you indeed ARE a vocalist, then you'd KNOW that. :?


I've said many times that I think he's good. On the 2 new, full songs I've heard (AATY and NWA) he's very good, even. I do not think he's "amazing" or "mind blowing" or anything like that...but he's good.

In a sense, I am nit-picking. I admit it now, and I admitted it earlier.

But, I'm hearing things like being flat and clumsy phrasing, IMO, way too early. From what I remember (the times I saw him live and on DVD), Augeri was never this unsettled/unsure sounding this early on. The live stuff I heard from Soto fronting the band, from the first show on, he was never this unsettled/unsure sounding. Both of those guys jumped in like the owned the place. Arnel just sounds like an amateur to me.

a little pitchy on a couple of fucking notes


Yeah, but he was "a little pitchy on a couple of fucking notes" of a song that millions of people know by heart...he was "a little pitchy on a couple of fucking notes" of a song that has such a high standard held to it because of it's original singer that it's going to stand out as glaring to many, including myself. He wasn't "a little pitchy"...he was downright out of key. "Pitchy" implies that it's subtle enough that most untrained ears won't catch it. Well, it wasn't that subtle. Sue me for pointing it out. When Neal makes his "real deal" speech and then I hear what I hear in those clips, I have to disagree.

I thought he sounded unsettled/unsure on the Chile clips, I thought he oversang on his clips with The Zoo, and he added "out of key" to the list on the Ellen clips.

I think he has a strong voice and I think he has a wide range. I think he has a lot of power in his voice. I think he sounds very good on the 2 new songs I've heard. But what I've heard of him live (from the internet) has not been the least bit impressive.

But he doesn't have to impress me, now does he? He's got THE gig. He can tell me to kiss his ass. :lol:

I'm sorry I'm not as impressed and enamoured with the guy as many of you are...I can't help it.

Augeri sounded great when I first heard him on "Remember Me" (first impressions and all). It stuck with me and I rooted for him.

I was skeptical of Soto because of his natural range, but the live clips impressed me...he nailed it. I rooted for him too.

Had Arnel been able to impress me right out of the gate (which he has not) I'd be rooting for him too. I'm sure the album will be good. But based on what I've seen, the live show will be sub-par compared to what I've seen/heard both live (Augeri) and recorded (Perry, Augeri & Soto).
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Postby Pelata » Thu May 29, 2008 9:45 pm

scarygirl wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Perry will never admit to anything. He knows Arnel is hitting notes that he cannot. Hes probably bitter.


:lol: That's rich...

Perry is 20 years older than Arnel...of course he can't hit those notes in standard tuning.

And judging from the Ellen clips, Arnel can't quite hit a bunch of them either... 8)


shit man, at the end of Separate Ways Arnel hit a note that Perry couldnt hit today if his balls were caught in a steel trap.


Sorry I disagree. He copied Steve on that end note. If memory serves me correct he hit it on Greatest Hits live, and it literally levitated you.


When Steve did it, he actually reached the note...Arnel did not and, being the pro he is, should have known NOT to do it. He was already flat in the beginning note and he tried to rise into the other? Amateurish singing.
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu May 29, 2008 10:39 pm

scarygirl wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Pelata wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Perry will never admit to anything. He knows Arnel is hitting notes that he cannot. Hes probably bitter.


:lol: That's rich...

Perry is 20 years older than Arnel...of course he can't hit those notes in standard tuning.

And judging from the Ellen clips, Arnel can't quite hit a bunch of them either... 8)


shit man, at the end of Separate Ways Arnel hit a note that Perry couldnt hit today if his balls were caught in a steel trap.


Sorry I disagree. He copied Steve on that end note. If memory serves me correct he hit it on Greatest Hits live, and it literally levitated you. I don't give a rat's ass what notes Steve can or cannot hit. With Steve it's always been about the experience.

STEVE'S NEW ALBUM WILL TOTALLY ROCK. I'm claiming it.


You are right. Reality set in a little bit with me now, I was just over the top that Journey was actually on a TV show that has relevance. I guess Im just unable to accept the fact that Perry never addresses anything, to the fans, the band, anyone. I want Journey to carry on with success just to show him up. More than anything I want him back with this band though. I wish he'd do something positive. He chose the lifestyle years ago and now its like he forgot us and just walked away.
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 29, 2008 10:41 pm

Memorex wrote:Here's a thought - who gives a shit?


Apparently, you do. You're frustrated/pissed. Love it. :lol:
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Re: If Steve Perry would share his opinion publicly....

Postby DracIsBack » Thu May 29, 2008 11:40 pm

jrnyjetster wrote:How do you think he would rate Arnel?


I've never met Perry, so I have no clue.
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Postby DracIsBack » Thu May 29, 2008 11:48 pm

He's never once truly given a healthy dump about anyone but himself,



Wow - didn't know you knew Perry through his whole life and all of his relationships well enough to make such a claim. :D
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